What I learned from this: If your lunch host has a different plate of food, push away from the table.

@Anna_Key

Жыл бұрын

And offer to swap meals, or share your plate with their kids and see how they react. 👀

@tinkerstrade3553

Жыл бұрын

It was for these very reason that in times past, people would "braek bread" together . It was euphemistically seen as sharing. But the purpose was to establish mutual trust by verification.

@angec590

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!!

@nhmooytis7058

Жыл бұрын

Remember the scene from Princess Bride? kzread.info/dash/bejne/pXlm08NyZtPXaKw.html

@Redspeciality

Жыл бұрын

I’ll have what she is having

Her ex husband was admitted to hospital last year and almost died from food poisoning. Too many ‘coincidences ‘ in this story

@opallunar

Жыл бұрын

And both her parents died mysteriously in 2019. She benefited financially from that... sus

@jennibarnes140

Жыл бұрын

​@opallunar8824 omg and they went to lunch at hers? A disgruntled daughter in law, and grand kids were mysteriously sent to movies 🎬 😮

@wyldroselee6446

Жыл бұрын

But he had 3 surgeries. You don't have surgery for food poisoning.

@GeeeAus

Жыл бұрын

@@wyldroselee6446 You do if the toxin that you and just without knowing it has caused physical damage to your gut.

@zanzah_

Жыл бұрын

​@wyldroselee6446 lllooolll organs rupture and tear and yes surgery is required. Erin is Autistic af!

Given the value of the apartment she inherited, probably time to review, rather closely, the deaths of her parents, as well.

@witchysav3464

11 ай бұрын

Oh my GOD 👀

@meatman2024

11 ай бұрын

Daaaamn 🤔

@user-xb8tc3tc8t

11 ай бұрын

Guilty, YES, sick, YES. What do you do?

@garysimon7765

11 ай бұрын

Good one ! 😮

@danielleelias685

10 ай бұрын

That's what I was thinking when I heard her parents died and she inherited such a big expensive house.

"Simon has indicated he has no intention of reuniting with Erin. This may be because Simon has a desire to continue living." Hilarious!

@Lena-jx9st

Жыл бұрын

Dr Grande is hilarious! The way he delivers the lines with such a dead pan expression is hysterical! SO funny!

@wyldroselee6446

Жыл бұрын

I've watched this guy cover murders quite a few times but never heard him make jokes all the way through. It's incredibly insensitive. Simon's parents and aunty just died a horrible death and his uncle is just hanging on. Who makes jokes about that?? I don't get how so many commenters think this is a good comedy sketch. It's horrible!

@Gigiwalters

Жыл бұрын

She made a new meal at left the others to die. Because she wanted to get back with her ex but she previously made a meal and he almost died from fungi. She needs to be stopped

@wyldroselee6446

Жыл бұрын

@@Gigiwalters sounds like you know more than the doctors who examined and tested him for weeks in the hospital. This is called MISINFORMATION.

@rosieHolliday5887

Жыл бұрын

I literally LOL'D at that

“All Fungi are edible. Some fungi are only edible once.”: Terry Pratchett

@bthomson

Жыл бұрын

You can say that again!

@GrumpSkull

Жыл бұрын

The death cap fungi is a real party pooper.

@DavianSinner

Жыл бұрын

Really, anything is edible once.

@mwituamweene9850

Жыл бұрын

lol

@GrumpSkull

Жыл бұрын

@@DavianSinner I once ate clown food from a drive through restaurant. It made me feel funny so never went back.

I think it's awesome that supermarkets clearly label foods as fatal or non-fatal! It takes the guesswork out of it.

@TutuFerret

Жыл бұрын

Mine usually labels them by type and I've never seen "death cap" in amongst the buttons & shiitake. In my experience they tend not to stock death caps, probably because they don't get a lot of repeat sales.

@deborl7278

Жыл бұрын

​@@TutuFerretwhy would a grocery store even have poisonous mushrooms for sale ?

@madeleineprice3556

Жыл бұрын

@@deborl7278I am sure there’s some sort of sarcasm in the original post, but besides that, why would a store that sells food also sell a potentially poisonous edible substance?

@terryrobinson4197

Жыл бұрын

i switch the labels just to mess with people

@madeleineprice3556

Жыл бұрын

@@terryrobinson4197it’s the only way to ensure the fittest survive

GUILTY! Erin wanted to take out the family of the husband and him too probably. Separate meal for her and her kids?! Bought the bad mushrooms at the store?! You've got to be kidding me!!! A real sicko.

@redfred452

Жыл бұрын

she is guilty as sin it's self, she lied about eating the mushrooms, at the hospital they knew she was not poisoned or showed no signs of being poisoned so they sent her home and gave her some pills for her liver to allay her fake fears, she will go down for this i hope !!!

@freespirit1411

Жыл бұрын

Is this guy serious? Quote "Everyone knows supermarkets mark the mushrooms fatal & not fatal" 😳 Who would buy the fatal ones? Why would they be selling them? Ridiculous statement 😆

@frankg882

Жыл бұрын

​@@freespirit1411 jokes bro, it was a joke

@AnneAlready

Жыл бұрын

@@freespirit1411 LOL, you missed the dry/ironic humor there. :P

@philanders3705

Жыл бұрын

​@@freespirit1411it took a bit for me to pick up on his sense of humor. At first I was thinking who is this monotone weirdo, but soon realized he's actually quite funny. Driest humor on the internet...

We are all still looking for other people affected by these 'store purchased' deadly mushrooms. Incredible that Erin was so unlucky in what she grabbed. She also cries without any tears, and maybe that's more disturbing.

@hoolydooly5799

Жыл бұрын

Rubbish. She is exhausted. A lot of gossip not facts. How about letting the police finish their work. As police said the media should not to ask townies for opinions.

@Aus200

Жыл бұрын

​@@hoolydooly5799she sounds like a big idiot. Even if it was an accident, she still needs to be locked up for a long time.

@desireesalas5820

Жыл бұрын

According to one of the Daily Mail articles I had read, she had a portion of them saved in the fridge and another portion had been foraged by her.

@RamsTheNameCom

Жыл бұрын

Well that was a surprising "blast from the past"... I remember watching some of your youtube channel content back around 2011. I believe a bot under your name "Friend Me" on youtube and that's how I became aware of your content. But yeah, she clearly didn't buy from the store. Likely either an amateur mushroom hunter or someone who intentionally wanted to kill her ex husband and his parents.

@kstephenson9465

Жыл бұрын

Correct! Besides no one cooks a western dish like Beef Wellington with “Asian mushrooms” think she’s telling a porky 🙄

I'm an experienced forager. I have looked all over the the "fatal" mushroom section in the store and this mushroom is not sold commercially. This mushroom only looks edible if you are very poor at identification. No, you don't have to look far to find it. Amatoxin poisoning is a horrible, painful way to go as the cause of death is organ failure. She had to search to find these. Guilty!

@nikitaw1982

Жыл бұрын

The husband was previously in a coma for 16 days after injesting poison and had major surgery on his intestines.

@jasonphillips5816

Жыл бұрын

Which do you think they are? Death cap can normally be identified by an ammonia smell, but are supposed to taste ok when cooked so probably wouldn't be noticed by the person eating them, Destroying Angel, Webcap Fools Conecap etc aren't supposed to taste nice, I'm in the UK so Australia has species i'm not familiar with.

@annak8755

Жыл бұрын

I've had food poisoning from mushrooms because they either weren't correctly prepared/ in sanitary conditions or were not correctly refrigerated. However, I am sure store bought mushrooms are all edible, because they are grown by farmers. No reasonable business person would prefer walking for hours in the forest foraging to growing your own in conditions you can control, meaning that nobody would even think about growing inedible ones.

@EChan-eu2co

Жыл бұрын

@@annak8755 unless it came from a careless farmer. I looked up mushroom growing once and you're supposed to check that no poisonous ones grew in like weeds. Death caps though grow under trees and have a symbiotic relationship with those trees so probably not them.

@cathybannister4149

Жыл бұрын

​@@jasonphillips5816Deathcaps are distinguished from field mushrooms in Australia by having cream gills and thinner stems but look identical from the top. Both field and deathcap grow in our backyard and in rural Victoria would be very common.

Simon refuses to reunite with Erin, because he has a strong desire to continue living. The delivery of that statement was so dead-pan, but had perfect impact!

She killed them on purpose. She avoided the food and so did her kids. CRYing with NO TEARS. Guilty AF!!!!!😮 👩‍⚖️

@polarvortex3294

Жыл бұрын

It's too bad that's not a verdict a jury can come back with. Judge: "Has the jury reached a verdict?" Jury spokesman: "We have, Your Honor." Judge: "And what is your verdict?" Jury spokesman: "Guilty AF, Your Honor."

@louieo.blevinsmusic4197

Жыл бұрын

“Not guilty but extremely sus, your honor.” And if you’re deemed “sus” by your peers then double jeopardy is thrown out the window and could face another trial. lol.

@polarvortex3294

Жыл бұрын

@@louieo.blevinsmusic4197 Your way would actually be a great improvement! Not Guilty: B.E.S. Yes, that should be real.

@polarvortex3294

Жыл бұрын

@@louieo.blevinsmusic4197 Maybe you'd get like 5 years of guaranteed freedom to try to find the "real killer."

@Lea_1113

10 ай бұрын

She actually claimed to have eaten the meal and gone to hospital herself. Her kids apparently don't like mushrooms so she picked them out. Yeah right but that's her claim

She reminds me of Kathy Bates character in Misery. Here is a question ? How did the parents die. It seems unusual they are both dead. Erin is only in her 40s. Detectives need to go right into her past. Hey Hollywood, this would make a block buster of a movie.

@EXROBOWIDOW

Жыл бұрын

Which means her parents were likely in their 60s or older. Things like heart problems, diabetes, and cancer can all start in the 50s and even younger. Before modern medicine, a lot of people died at a younger age. Modern medicine can't make everybody live longer.

@giftofthewild6665

11 ай бұрын

​@EXROBOWIDOW yeah if her parents were unhealthy they could have died in their 60s or 70s

(1) She claims she bought the mushrooms at a local store, but no one else in the community that shopped there experienced any poisoning. (2) Her guests ate the mushrooms, but she and her children ate a separate meal. (3) There is reason to suggest she may have poisoned her former husband, but he survived. (4) There is evidence that she studied poisonous mushroom information prior to the poisoning of her guests. Yep, she's innocent ! ! ! ! ! !

@andyjcoop

Жыл бұрын

Innocent until proven guilty, let's be careful now.

@cazyaz523

Жыл бұрын

Innocent until proven guilty - I agree but the inference here is overwhelming.

@aimeem8156

Жыл бұрын

No it’s not looking good for this woman.

@mindeyethemasterscreen2712

Жыл бұрын

She also threw out the cooking device she cooked the meal with the next day AND she also hated the step mother cussing her in public.

@Gothymothmoth

Жыл бұрын

yeah she didn't eat,taste or awhat not with the food and got rid of what she used to make it@@mindeyethemasterscreen2712

8:56 mark, “Simon has indicated he has no intention to reunite with Erin. This may be because Simon has a desire to… continue living.” Smoothest passive aggressive burn 🏆

Dr Grande - just to inform you that this incident occurred in the winter of 2023 here in Australia not the summer as you stated at the beginning of your video. Our winters here are June, July and August. Thank you for your very interesting videos.

@louieo.blevinsmusic4197

Жыл бұрын

Literally the hottest months in the southeast region of the U.S. lol

@Drak976

11 ай бұрын

Oi crikey you're living in the upside down on the counterweight continent. I'd ask if yee evah seen no monstahs then I remember it's Australia and that's called going outside innit? I guess you got some of them funny time birds and I don't mean the giant ones that try and eat yah.

@elb2698

10 ай бұрын

This is the first I heard the kids were there. I heard they went to the movies and Erin did eat some of the wellington according to her.

She now changed her story a couple of hours ago saying she did eat it and did get sick but was given liver protective medication. No proof of that… Also she immediately threw out the dehydrator she used with the mushrooms straight after cooking the meal . Guilty

She didn’t even taste the food she was cooking ? Who serves a meal at a dinner party they themselves wouldn’t eat? guilty

@Nylak-Otter

Жыл бұрын

I cook meat very well (and have taken meat science classes in university, from raising the livestock all the way to serving it), and I'm a vegetarian with vegan inclinations. I cook it for family events when requested a couple times a year. When I started, my very carnivorous best friend (now fiancée) would taste test it for me and clean up the leavings with my dogs. I'm at the point where taste testing is no longer required, since the results are consistent. If I change anything, it's because I'm following personal feedback, a suggestion, or a new and improved method that is backed up by biology and the science of processing skeletal muscle for consumption. I'm not defending her. I'm just saying.

@annazaman9657

Жыл бұрын

Great question. As a cook I taste everything I make. Otherwise how would you know if it tastes good.

@ieattofu68

Жыл бұрын

It's all so obvious...

@GameChanger597

Жыл бұрын

@@Nylak-Otter You took culinary classes and you're a vegetarian so that alone makes sense why you don't taste test. She's neither so it makes no sense 👎

@Nylak-Otter

Жыл бұрын

@@GameChanger597 I was providing an example to answer the question, not a solution to the situation. I also said I wasn't defending her. If I were to get scenario-specific, I might argue that she possibly dislikes beef, but happened to know that it was a family favorite of her ex's. 🤷‍♀️ Without more information, I feel like that would be a bold assumption for me to suggest, though. Who knows what (if anything) was going through her head. 😅 (Also, it wasn't really a culinary class; it was for my animal science degree, since I specialized in domesticated animal behavior and livestock reproduction. I'm a terrible cook except for meat now, much to my disappointment. Although apparently I can cook tofu to taste and feel just like chicken! 🤣)

I always pass over the "fatal mushrooms" section at the grocery store. I wonder why she grabbed them?

@tumekeehoa3121

Жыл бұрын

She needed to find a substitute for the sold out lethal mushrooms.

@HLB313

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they were discounted

@zoer7338

Жыл бұрын

You guys are *funny*! 😅

@donnaevans3062

Жыл бұрын

That fatal part is a deal breaker for me too!!!!

@venderstrat

Жыл бұрын

Could they have been marked 'reduced'?

I think she wanted all of them dead and only said she wanted to get back together to throw people off, including the victims. And thinking that her exact excuse would be "why would I do that, I called the meeting to get back together!" Imagine being so determined to kill someone that the whole time you are dehydrating the mushrooms and then preparing a meal you don't stop and say "what the hell am I doing?!?!" How do some people live with themselves?

@shhhhhhh9328

Жыл бұрын

I know! Not a spur of the moment thing, those dehydrators take hours! And she has kids. Kids for whom she prepares meals every day. I hope somebody in the extended family can be their guardians and give them a normal-ish life while their mum spends the next 10-20 years in prison or a criminal psych facility.

@AveragePotatoWithDreams

11 ай бұрын

Very easily 🤣

@mandymckeown8625

9 ай бұрын

She has no empathy they were just in her way unfortunately

I think there are a lot of coincidences here that strongly suggest she intended to prepare a killer meal. Had it been accidental she would have eaten them herself. Less suspicious that her children didn’t eat them, as children can be picky eaters, but highly suspicious she’d prepare a lunch that she herself did not intend to eat.

@salliegallegos918

Жыл бұрын

It’s not a coincidence. Intentional poisoning is more common than anyone knows. No one believes the victims, if they survive.

@tonyquinlan7341

Жыл бұрын

Maybe she doesn't like poison mushrooms.😅😅😅😅

@smith549371

Жыл бұрын

How olds the children?

@polarvortex3294

Жыл бұрын

It might make sense to cook separate meals if, say, some guests are vegetarian or have certain allergies. Or it might make sense to serve two things at home when, say, there's only one hamburger left, so only one person can get that and the rest have to eat something else. You might also create several options for guests to choose from, which is considerate in a way. But it's VERY weird to randomly serve some people one batch of food and other people a completely separate dish -- this would only sow disunity and be twice the work!

@glenncordova4027

11 ай бұрын

What cook doesn't taste their own cooking? Every time I cook a meal, I taste it even if I am cooking it for someone else.

The fact that she refuses to tell where she bought them is suspicious.

@michaeltuffin5002

Жыл бұрын

They found a dehydrator at the local tip

@valhipkiss4011

Жыл бұрын

Come , it’s bull S , they were pick in the wild for god sake 😅😅😅😅

@katbar6066

Жыл бұрын

I think you mean food dehydrators and I believe 3 were found but one was dumped after the event..@@michaeltuffin5002

@Ultradude604

Жыл бұрын

The Poison Shrooms Depot. She thought only healthy mushrooms are sold there.

@xonx209

Жыл бұрын

If bought from a store there would be news of other people getting poisoned

It's always weird when people "sob" and "cry" but there's no actual tears.

@silentnight9655

Жыл бұрын

Loll.

@johncollins3391

Жыл бұрын

Yes i noticed that.

@rachaelh9193

Жыл бұрын

That’s the first time i thought she was guilty

@MR-gl9xu

Жыл бұрын

Plus she wiped away the nonexistent tears!!! 🤔

@MattExzy

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad I'm not the only one that picked up on her sus body language. She kept looking at her fingers after she 'wiped' her eyes to accentuate that they were really tears, when they weren't. High blink rate as well, consistent with hiding true feelings. Then when she walked off, all of her emotion instantly melted away. Something is way off.

How this woman is not in prison is beyond me.

@bradnov89

9 ай бұрын

She is now. She has been charged with 3 counts of murder amongst a string of other charges

@SkeletorFan

9 күн бұрын

@@bradnov89Why? If anything, the mushrooms should be the ones going to jail.

she's being charged with 3 counts of murder and 5 of attempted murder. justice has caught up to her.

The fact that she claims she bought them in a store is all the proof i need to know she is a lying liar who is also a murderer. Had she said she picked them herself and it was a horrific accident that would be believable.

@shawnburford4791

Жыл бұрын

True. Good point. 😮

@Anna_Key

Жыл бұрын

Plus, she would have eaten some herself, because if that's how it happened, she wouldn't have guessed there would be a problem eating them.

@TheBlackDeath3

Жыл бұрын

Eh, not necessarily. It's not difficult to imagine somebody who's made such a grave mistake trying to cast blame elsewhere for one reason or another. Not proof of intent.

@stevecharman8420

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBlackDeath3 It might make sense to try to shift the blame on to somebody else but to blame a store is the height of stupidity because such a thing is so easy to check.

@GameChanger597

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBlackDeath3 It's excruciatingly obvious she intentionally murdered them and the fact the cops can't put 2 and 2 together is astounding not to mention incredibly dense 🤦🏽‍♀️

Todds sense of humor slaps. it comes out of nowhere without even a slight change of his very serious tone. sometimes u have to wonder if he actually just said it.

@DannyWJaco

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Perfect delivery and succinct timing.

@francinejones2524

Жыл бұрын

No he’s got a very dry sense of humour clearly.

@itsbonkerjojo9028

Жыл бұрын

​@@DannyWJacowhat part r we talking abt ? Time pls i think i missed it as I wasn't giving proper attention

@itsbonkerjojo9028

Жыл бұрын

​@@DannyWJaco oh i think i got it A melancholic love part at last at last isn't it when he summarize the case 😂

@itsbonkerjojo9028

Жыл бұрын

​@@francinejones2524who hurt u 🤕

Dear Dr Grande, when I was studying natural medicine my teacher of herbal medicine knew someone who was an expert in mushroom collection - he died from collecting, cooking up and eating poisonous mushrooms. Mushroom collection is apparently quite tricky.

“The poisonous food section” of the supermarket! LOL! I really enjoy your videos, doctor, and loved the alliteration at the end of this one! Very informative and with your usual humor! Many thanks for posting!

The idea of a meal with parents-in-law to reconcile a relationship is so so odd! It almost reminds me of a plot from Poirot or Columbo

@tinasmith7630

Жыл бұрын

Murder CD hav been on da menu, dats y.

@louisewright8769

Жыл бұрын

she probably loves Agatha Christie books . she might get manslaughter . also the house was worth one million would the husband get half ?

@patriciafisher1170

Жыл бұрын

Bit odd

@thomasrussell4674

Жыл бұрын

Or curb your enthusiasm

@bloochoob

Жыл бұрын

‘just one more mushroom…’ ☠️

To say she's a person of interest is the understatement of the year...

@alexeysamokhin9629

Жыл бұрын

Maybe the Police is interested in her cooking skills?

@wendydressler3917

Жыл бұрын

@@alexeysamokhin9629☠️😂

@Joelswinger34

Жыл бұрын

Probably the only time in her life she was ever interesting!

@nikitaw1982

Жыл бұрын

Women always protected. Hierarchy is rich, then women, then men. Domestic violence laws all directed at men about putting crappy women as head of the house who are loyal to government authority. Father has to co ply or else she lies to the cops and u never see ur kids again. Society is sick. Single mother raised worst situation for a kid, they know this yet father's rarely get full custody over some loonie woman unless she's on crack. Even then they get custody.

@melinaesposito3434

Жыл бұрын

She released a statement today, changing her story: - she bought the mushrooms from an Asian grocery - she also ate the pie and went to the hospital and was given a 'liver conserving drug' She's digging a nice big hole for herself and deserves to go to prison for a long time.

I'm from Aust. Erin said she purchased the mushrooms from a shop in Melbourne. But she can't recall what shop or even what suburb the shop was in. She said she gave her children the left over Beef Wellington the next day, but scraped off the mushrooms, as the kids didn't like them. But she cudn't have scraped off the poisonous juices, I don't believe that one for a minute. Also it was known that she wanted to keep the house she was living in. I looked very very hard at the videos of her "crying" & could not see a single tear, nor red eyes. I have trouble speaking when crying from grief, but she easily spoke quite well while she was "crying". Everyone in Aust thinks she's guilty, I think because her body language & her "grief" face are off. It's off because it's not real. I laughed out loud several times during your excellent analysis. 😅 The deaths of those poor people was an extremely cowardly despicable act. They died horribly.

I have poison mushrooms during late summer in my 5 acre yard. They pop up huge right after a heavy rain. We put on rubber gloves and pull them and get rid of them right away. It's amazing how they are nowhere to be seen and then the next day they are there and the size of a cup saucer.

I love not only that Dr Grande covers Australian stories, but also that he pronounces ‘Melbourne’ correctly!

@nhmooytis7058

Жыл бұрын

Yes noticed that!

@valhipkiss4011

Жыл бұрын

But he’s NOT actually getting all of the story correct .

@BoogieBoogsForever

Жыл бұрын

No one care about the content. We just came to see him slip out of his fake US accent.

@nhmooytis7058

Жыл бұрын

@@BoogieBoogsForever fake? What are you on about?

@nhmooytis7058

Жыл бұрын

@@valhipkiss4011 so what did he get wrong?

The fact that she refused to answer key questions such as where the mushrooms came from, and why she and her children ate a different meal, is highly suspicious.

@hrhtreeoflife4815

Жыл бұрын

Kids eat simple meals that's why.

@It-is-me...Melsie

Жыл бұрын

@@hrhtreeoflife4815 It's weird that NONE of them ate any of what the guests ate. And it was actually beef wellington pie. Don't most kids love pie. The mother is 48 too so I'd doubt the children are fussy little toddlers.

@ange4048

Жыл бұрын

You realize she doesn’t have to answer questions. She has the same rights as everyone else.

@pierreblenderbuss9807

Жыл бұрын

It's a pile on. Worth waiting a bit for facts to come out. We'll see what the investigations yield.

@siewheilou399

Жыл бұрын

​@@hrhtreeoflife4815 Children have allergies?

Crying without tears 🤨...She knew exactly what she was doing! Oh my gosh, this lady is SO busted 😅

@gregorybush3224

6 күн бұрын

Phantom of the Daffodil festival......

Death Cap mushrooms are mycorrhizal, growing symbiotically with the roots of oak trees. They typically sprout underneath the edge of the oak canopy. Due to a large root systems Death Caps can be found aways from the trunk. The cap has a yellow to greenish sheen that can vary to olive or brown hue. Gills and spores are white, small bulbous cup at the base and remnants of a skirt on the stipe. Other mushrooms may have similar coloring but none grow symbiotically with oak. All commercial growers would easily be able to spot the Death Cap and I bet youd be hard pressed to find an example. There is now an antidote called Silibinin an extract of milk thistle seeds, along with gastric decontamination. A deadly dose is 0.1 milligrams for every kilo of weight. With all this info and what appeared to be fake crying, makes her look like she is lying. Excuse the rant 👍🤙👌✌️🕊

@Drak976

11 ай бұрын

I liked every word of it people need to be more careful about what we put in our face. Some people don't have our best interests at heart.

@lilahngahere4274

11 ай бұрын

@Drak976 She has been classed as an expert forager, I think that will be her downfall. Yes there are some sad people. Hope you have an awesome day 👋 😀 😊

@maryhayes3177

11 ай бұрын

Very informative, thank you for explaining

@lilahngahere4274

11 ай бұрын

@maryhayes3177 Thankyou 😊 Mushrooms are such a valuable source of food and medicine. What she did was wicked and she was able to mask it by dehydrating it. I am so sad for her children and all those close to them. I hope you have a wonderful day 💗 I actually never expected anyone to reply.

@naturalroyalflush

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for that information.

I’m in Melbourne, this is a huge case and thank you for bringing all the information together. News tonight advised that the Pastor is now in a stable position.

@elizabethnuttall5374

Жыл бұрын

But he needs a liver transplant.

@YGardenRose

Жыл бұрын

Thank God the Pastor is somewhat better!🙏🏻❤️

@mjremy2605

Жыл бұрын

Thank god! What good news!!!! So sad he lost his wife of many years. But so glad he lived. Poor man. What trauma and damage to his body.

@nikitaw1982

Жыл бұрын

"Fight like a girl" so character assassination and poison his food.

@TGravy-wp4rc

Жыл бұрын

​@@nikitaw1982that's how they do it!

A few year ago after vacation- our dog got so sick, it was many days of hell and the vet couldn't figure it out. The people who watched our dog denied anything unusual, denied our dog was sick (thought maybe some kind of extreme anxiety, stop eating, puking, diarrhea, shaking/tremors hair falling out, crying dog pain whimpering etc) eventually she recovered 💕... I went over to their house and looked in their yard and I found mushrooms that looked exactly like this in the corner of their fenced in yard (google imagined them, death caps!)... I am convinced to this day that my dog was eating poisonous mushrooms in their yard when we were gone, Luckily she survived!

@kimberlygabaldon3260

Жыл бұрын

There are other Amanitas such as A pantherina, and A muscaria that dogs and even cats are attracted to. A pantherina could be mistaken for a death cap, but the dog usually recovers after a day or so. Still, it's always best to keep your eyes open..

@78grafikal

Жыл бұрын

OR THE DOG BIT A FROG

@kathyryder828

Жыл бұрын

The people who looked after your dog may have been telling the truth. He may have seemed okay when he was with them. Amanita phalloides causes liver. The symptoms don't usually occur for 4 - 7 days after consuming the mushrooms. I agree with the other comment that it was probably a less toxic A. phalloides lookalike. Your dog would only have to eat a small piece of an A. phalloides and they'd probably die. I wouldn't rely on Google images for an accurate fungi ID. Local or online fungi groups usually have experts who can provide accurate IDs. I'm glad your dog survived.

I lived in a foster home when I was a kid. My foster mother picked mushrooms in the pasture and served them for lunch almost every day in the summer. It took me awhile but when I saw no one got sick, I started eating them too. They were very good and always fresh.I ate them raw on sandwiches mostly. To this day, I can't tell you how June knew which ones were the right ones. She was a tough Christian woman and I trusted her!

@juanitaross5492

11 ай бұрын

I use to go mushroom gathering with my father. He knew the difference between the good ones and the poison ones. If any where questionable we didn't take any chances. I'm 69 and still alive. Dad taught us well.

I can confirm our local grocery store clearly labels the fatal mushrooms 😵🥰😝

No way that wasn't a purposeful murder. Such a top meal, and she or her kids didn't eat it ? No doubt it was murder.

@quink2376

Жыл бұрын

Is she vegetarian?

@MasterMalrubius

Жыл бұрын

@@quink2376Are mushrooms meat?

@Cocoandindy

Жыл бұрын

I actually thought there was a fly on my screen & tried to swat it away 😊

@livingthedream8539

Жыл бұрын

@@MasterMalrubius was beef wellington

@quink2376

Жыл бұрын

@@MasterMalrubius she cooked beef Wellington, which has mushrooms. I'd say if she is vegetarian and her kids probably don't eat mushrooms may be why they didn't eat the same meal.

Dr. Grande, your emotionless but yet still somehow menacing stare and talcum-dry sense of humor are nightmare fuel. Keep it coming.

@geraldinenolan6312

Жыл бұрын

Talcum dry! 😂

@AnastasiaFafo

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@tomperkins5657

Жыл бұрын

word

@JesusChrist-Gives-Eternal-Life

Жыл бұрын

What a description! You should be a writer!

@hammersandcaffeinepills

Жыл бұрын

​@@user-rl6wr2ny7f" Stiff upper lip, now, chap! "

One of my favorite places to forage for mushrooms is in grocery stores. Not everyone thinks to look there. I still suck at telling which of the mushrooms in the store are poisonous. I know it's incredibly amateurish of me to wish it was easier to know if all the mushrooms I buy are edible. Maybe they can have starter supermarkets for entry-level foragers like me that only sell the edible ones. They'd make a killing. Also no idea why they won't let me bring my new truffle-trained hog. I spent all that money getting him then transporting him all the way from Italy and they dont let me bring him into the store. So unfair

@giftofthewild6665

11 ай бұрын

Get a truffle hunting dog instead, you can put a vest on him and call him a service dog. Bonus: they won't try to eat the truffles they find. They're better than pigs.

I live in a country area of Australia. Never have I seen poisonis mushrooms for sale. The supermarket where she bought the normal mushrooms would have digital info of what she bought. She told police that she bought other mushrooms at a Chinese supermarket but could not recall where this shop was or when she did it. The dehydrator that she used was thrown away at the town tip and police were looking for it. So as far as I can see she foraged for the deadly nightcap mushrooms in her area and dehydrated them. Hence the reason she got rid of it. Probably in the suitcase she carried from her house. In one of her houses a painter who was employed to paint the house came forward to the police and showed them pictures he took of a wall where she had written all these weird things One of the things were death to her parents in law. She told the painter that the kids did it but he said kids would not write things like that. He felt really uncomfortable when he found the wall. She’s guilty and kids should be removed from her before she kills them

@williewonka6694

10 ай бұрын

Only special stores sell produce such as toxic mushrooms and poisoned apples. You have to be a certified member of a witches coven to even learn if such places. It's all covered during the apprenticeship.

@Gramercy_Stiffs

9 ай бұрын

She said they were dried mushrooms from an Asian supermarket.

There are two categories of mushroom poisoning incident: Incidents where the chef eats the food, and incidents where they dont. Every incident where they dont has turned out to be a murder in my personal experience.

@edithflood631

Жыл бұрын

Personal experience? Are you a chef?

@nikitaw1982

Жыл бұрын

​@@edithflood631busy body. Haha. Just jokes. Yeah what experience?

@SanFranDentist94301

Жыл бұрын

Kinda unfortunate. MY partner enjoys mushrooms, me much less so. I'm skeeved out by them. So I could see myself making beef and mushrooms for a dinner but sticking to my chicken mushu sabs mushrooms.

@firecrest27

Жыл бұрын

'Your personal experience' lol do you need investigating?

@mortalclown3812

Жыл бұрын

​@@edithflood631 A bit of satire, that's all.

There's absolutely no way they could have been store bought! There would have been a huge food recall.

@skysi666

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention that selling poisonous mushrooms is really bad for repeat customers

@soup-nazi6824

Жыл бұрын

Store bought mushrooms are from large scale commercial growers here in Australia-they don't buy random mushrooms picked by the public...😅

@hondaxl250k0

Жыл бұрын

Actually.. wrong. I supply vendors with wild hand picked mushrooms.. I get 100$ a lb for morel and 75$ a lb for chicken of the woods and hen of the woods. If the store locally sourced the mushrooms there would not be a recall. This lady I’d definitely guilty. But understand a lot of mushrooms are sourced locally. And it’s totally possible for someone to pick a look alike . I spore print each batch. And am dam sure what I sell is correct..

@It-is-me...Melsie

Жыл бұрын

@@hondaxl250k0 Why do you put your dollar signs after the number? Do you do that on your invoices too?

@hondaxl250k0

Жыл бұрын

@@It-is-me...Melsie why are you a grammar nazi??

Dr Grande, your alliteration and humor in this video made my day!

That alliteration in your conclusion was pure poetry, incredible!! Interesting case as well

One year in Hawaii Deathcaps grew all over the place in huge numbers. My landlord did not think they were poisonous. He took a very tiny piece of one, about the size of a pea. He almost died.

@charliechurch5004

Жыл бұрын

DANG! THOSE ARE DEADLY!!!

@andyharpist2938

Жыл бұрын

the poison recirculates again and again from damaged livers...activated carbon filtration can help...but your will be on a machine for evermore.

@breathnstop

Жыл бұрын

What an idiot. Thought he was special I guess.

@FernRoses

Жыл бұрын

Oh my! 😳

@marcouellette4671

Жыл бұрын

@@andyharpist2938 eight hours after he took that tiny piece, he call needing a ride to the hospital because he was throwing up and passing blood from his rear end. They put activated charcoal and pump to stomach and gave them all kinds of medications

She disposed of her food dehydrater at the local tip ,after the poisoning. Cops found it . Her ex believes he may have been poisoned in the past .

@TheScratchingKiwi

Жыл бұрын

An ex is generally not the best source of facts if they have no proof.

@alexeysamokhin9629

Жыл бұрын

@@TheScratchingKiwi he was for three weeks in intensive care in a critical condition in hospital, what other proofs do you need???

@joedennehy386

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheScratchingKiwi they were in hospital for 3 weeks champ

@annebruecks7381

Жыл бұрын

What's a tip?

@kg6801

Жыл бұрын

​@@annebruecks7381Garbage dump

This is the first time I've come across this channel.. this guy's dry humor and sarcasm remind me of Matt Walsh.. 😂 I love this guy! Subscribed!

She’s obviously a poisoner. I was also poisoned at a time during the past several years. It’s strange but, some people are so vile, as to poison people and make it seem as though their victims are suffering “illness” from the pandemic. What horrible people. I’m glad I have at least one good friend…

@abbiealverez2960

11 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear this you should be calling the cops if someone poisoned you that's tottally effed up

One small correction Dr G. Here in Australia, July isn't summer, but winter. I always enjoy your videos, humour and perspective on cases. Thanks for all the effort you put into your material.

@hw7029

Жыл бұрын

Wild mushrooms are a winter food 🍄

I live in Australia and this case has been all over the news. However I still got more information from you than the media has released. Thank you Dr Grande 👏

@BoogieBoogsForever

Жыл бұрын

Bullshit. You have access to the same info Grande does. If you lack info it's because you're not paying attention.

@Judi-AustralianEmptyNester

Жыл бұрын

There's not a lot about it hey - i actually googled this story last night and its all very quiet.

@teresaluther6531

Жыл бұрын

Same. I don't know how he managed to get so much info when here in Australia we've heard very little.

@michelegrice4938

Жыл бұрын

Don't believe everything you read. This person is getting likes and comments

@NickTaylorRickPowers

Жыл бұрын

I know right we never heard nothing about it being beef Wellington

Love it, Todd your sense of humor is growing. Keep up the good work.

The testing of packaged mushrooms, both imported & local in Australia is very stringent to avoid any poisonous ones. And there's no record of anybody ever being poisoned by dried packaged mushrooms. Surely there would have been many more cases of poisoning if she had bought them at an Asian grocery store as claimed. She then said she couldn't remember where the store was, and also disposed of a food dehydrator at the garbage dump a day after serving the deadly meal. She claimed to forget about having disposed of it.

I believe there also needs to be an investigation into Erin’s parents deaths in 2019, unless they were in a fatal accident both parents dying in the same year is unusual.

@lindaaitken7679

Жыл бұрын

And they left her a shed load of money I believe

@GigiG-be4xu

Жыл бұрын

🤤🤤🤤...

@dirkrose1565

Жыл бұрын

You have a point. But then again, it's not that unsual, especially among elderly couples, if the woman is the first one to die.

@GigiG-be4xu

Жыл бұрын

@@dirkrose1565 😐😑

@MG-ot2yr

Жыл бұрын

Good point, inheriting a $1M home is motive, plus I'm sure they had cash, savings and other assets.

Death Angel mushrooms. Curiously, most homicides by poisoning are done by women. The fact that she and her children avoided the "laced" dish speaks of homicidal intent.

@ToyInsanity

Жыл бұрын

But mummy, why can't I have the beef welly, you know I love beef welly!

@sjworrier0613

Жыл бұрын

But also… some people don’t like mushrooms, like truly hate them. I still cook things I don’t like all the time for friends and family bc I love cooking but I won’t eat that dish and eat the rest.

@TwistedSister1234

Жыл бұрын

But she would have gotten caught too easily if she had done it on purpose. So I don’t think she meant to kill them . But I do think that she likely meant to make them sick (Munchausen’s bi-proxy). Her husband got critically ill while with her in April 2022. Maybe she enjoyed the drama, liked attending to him and feeling needed by him.

@Winter-Lake

Жыл бұрын

It does seem rather convenient that she and her children were the only ones who didn't eat it.

@Adam-kn3tv

Жыл бұрын

​@@schoomzerHe says in the video that she prepared separate meals for her children. It's right there in the video.

Oh my goodness! Some of the one sentence remarks you made were brilliant, and love the ending. I find it very hard to believe this woman in innocent.

"Everybody knows supermarkets clearly mark their muchrooms as fatal and non fatal" Almost missed that with his dry sense of humor.

I can't stop laughing! Not at this horrible situation, but Dr. Grande's sense of humor. You NEVER let me down.

@susanguzzo4941

Жыл бұрын

OMG. I thought it was just me but I was laughing throughout (so inappropriate I thought to myself but his commentary cracked me up).

@nicoleferlazzo6591

Жыл бұрын

I know! I was laughing like a crazy person. Dr Grande's dry sense of humour and dead pan look gets me every time

Why would you have a lunch with your in-laws to convince them you and your husband should get back together? Are they teenagers? Or in some arranged marriage situation? I've never heard of this type of luncheon.

@lostandfound5145

Жыл бұрын

It seems like a desperate ploy and perhaps the in-laws attended out of pity

@susivarga7303

Жыл бұрын

The mil's brother-in-law was a pastor and mediator.

@KanyeKetchup

Жыл бұрын

Australian inbred way of life 😂

@katie3657

Жыл бұрын

I know right

@Hatbox948

Жыл бұрын

The whole thing is strange. If you're at a dinner and the hostess and her children ate completely different meals, wouldn't most people question that? I wonder if her guests really thought they were there to discuss her reuniting with her ex?

I love your dry sense of humour. And your ‘Hitchcockian’ reference.

If she deliberately served, and watched people eat death caps, she's a cold hearted fiend. Premeditated murder! Maybe not the first time either..

Before we get too far into this thing, she inherited a million-dollar town home after her parents passed away? Like, natural causes passed away? Or, more like, ya know, murder them, passed away. I'm just starting the show and already I have things to share. Man, I love the internets.

@justintime753

Жыл бұрын

Damn they better take another look at there deaths

@ToyInsanity

Жыл бұрын

They were fans of here beef welly 😮

@ceilconstante640

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Probably should exhume the bodies and run some toxiciflolgy tests.

@leahvogelsimpson

Жыл бұрын

Right. It's kinda weird they both died in 2019, although not impossible.

@letfreedomreignhonk324

Жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing.

My work colleague had lost her sister in law to one of these poisonous mushrooms, and her brother was in a fatal condition. The wife was very much into wild mushrooms and was very knowledgeable, she'd go off mushroom picking this day as she had for years and collected her mushrooms for a dinner she was preparing for her family. She absolutely adored her husband and their children and would often arrange meal gatherings. On this particular occasion she prepared the lunch only to receive a call that her family couldn't make it to lunch and would rearrange. However, her husband said that they would still eat the meal since she'd prepared it. Hours later the wife was seriously ill with nausea and stomach pain, her husband called the emergency services who told him NOT to induce vomiting. Unfortunately this was a big mistake as vomiting would have helped to release some of the toxins frim her stomach. She was rushed to hospital but sadly died. Her husband within hours would also become very sick too and was rushed into ED. He survived thankfully but has never recovered psychologically. Even though she knew her mushrooms, she'd picked some that looked like ones she'd normally eat not realising they weren't. It was so tragic.

@nicolesamsonite

Жыл бұрын

Why did emergency services tell them not to induce vomiting?

@clutchboi4038

Жыл бұрын

​@@nicolesamsonitefor most poisonings it's not the correct thing to do for some reason that I don't know. Maybe they are worried it can be aspirated and cause further complications getting it into your lungs and airways.

@nicolesamsonite

Жыл бұрын

@@clutchboi4038 oh okay, that makes sense.

@ultraboombean

Жыл бұрын

Don't fuck with mushrooms.

@deedk

Жыл бұрын

​@clutchboi4038 it's also if it is a caustic poisoning it can burn/damage the esophagus as it comes back up.

Earlier this month, a person close to the family said Patterson was an “experienced fungi forager”. According to the Daily Mail Australia, Patterson was known to often and expertly pick wild mushrooms around Victoria’s Gippsland region A friend of Patterson’s family revealed Erin was “very good at foraging” and identifying different mushroom varieties ..But brought the ones she used from a unnamed Asian supermarket she claims ? sussy as .

"Simon has indicated he has no intention of reuniting with Erin. This may be because Simon has a desire to continue living." HAHAHAHA. For you to say this and many other things in this video in such a nonchalant way and with no expressions on your face is pure brilliance. You should do stand up comedy! 🤣😂😅

She made the food, yet didn't eat any and made sure her kids didn't... you can bet it was intentional. She's only sorry about getting caught. She either saw them as an obstacle in the way of getting what she wanted and felt the need to eliminate them or she thought they were to blame for her failed marriage and wanted revenge. I can't believe she's not been brought up on charges yet, especially after finding that dehydrator.

@TheMazinoz

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure they are working on it, just wanting to well and truly prove the case. She hasn't exactly been cooperative either which may be delaying the matter.

@kumasucki

Жыл бұрын

Im in Melbourne. She said she did eat the meal. Now she's admitted she lied about where her kids were that day.

@palomaalhambra2453

Жыл бұрын

What is a dehydrator and what's it got to do with deadly poisonous mushrooms? (Genuine question, not all of us have a clue.)

@xoxsilentrealmxox

Жыл бұрын

I have faith she will be, they're just preparing their case

@xoxsilentrealmxox

Жыл бұрын

​@@palomaalhambra2453it dehydrates food. She claims she used a mix of fresh button mushrooms and other dehydrated mushrooms from an Asian grocery store. I'm guessing she used the dehydrator with the death caps

Her husband was in a coma 12 months ago with similar symptoms. She must have bought store bought mushrooms back then too. Interestingly when she told the police she bought them from the shop they didnt do a recall on the mushrooms so it sounds like the police dont believe her

@katbar6066

Жыл бұрын

in fact I believe both Supermarkets put out an announcement saying they are not doing a recall and no one is at risk.

More details than I've found anywhere in the states.. I live in Maryland. Imagine spending all of that time on beef wellington and not eating it.. not suspicious at all! Hmm, well unless you don't eat meat. This is so horrific and disturbing beyond words. Her parents died the same year? Interesting. Where on earth did she get these mushrooms?

Your sense of humor is amazing. I almost spat out my drink with some of your wry delivery is everything.

I personally think Erin wanting to get back with her ex and getting everyone together because of it was just a ruse to get them all round to eat her mushrooms, including the ex. The fact she and her children did not eat the mushrooms speaks volumes. When I cook for a group, I usually cook something everyone can/will eat so the fact the most important people to her (her kids and herself) did not eat it and were the ONLY people not to eat it is very odd. The fact she lied about buying the shrooms at a grocery store is a red flag - unless she can provide some reciept, I call BS. Guilty af imo.

@kathyryder828

Жыл бұрын

She didn't buy them at a supermarket. We have strict food regulations in Australia and NZ. Most supermarkets only sell commercially grown white button mushrooms and brown field mushrooms. Amanita phalloides does not look like either of those. I've never heard of Amanita phalloides contaminating batches of commercially grown mushrooms. It doesn't like that substrate. Some supermarkets are branching out and selling a few specialty types of fungi. Again, they're commercially grown and don't resemble Amanita phalloides. Other people would've almost certainly become sick if the mushrooms were purchased from a store too. This mushroom grows in the wild. Typically under pine trees. It's common to find them in the area where Erin lives

As an Aussie, I've heard about this however I avoid the news like the plague (it sets off extreme anxiety). This story is weird, she is weird & I'm sure it'll all only become weirder. Dr Grande, despite the deaths, you totally crack me up. I'll get my current news from you in future. Rest In Peace to the victims ❤🙏🕊️

@elizabethroberts6215

Жыл бұрын

.…she’s not the full quid………

@Betty77168

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree on the news giving me anxiety - general Main Stream Media but particularly the news makes me very uncomfortable nowadays.

@enricopallazzo3244

Жыл бұрын

Ironically these days if you avoid the news you are much more informed than those who tune in every night.

@Toddpeekence

Жыл бұрын

Lol!

@Betty77168

Жыл бұрын

@@enricopallazzo3244 you're not wrong!

The good news is the mushrooms are on sale at the supermarkets here in NSW. Seems like people don't fancy them all of a sudden!

I can’t help but wonder if her ex-husband’s prior bouts of sickness were her doing dosage testing- or just failing to kill him each time, so she continued increasing the amount.

Another interesting factor that I don’t see mentioned often is that these mushrooms have been out of season here for about 2 months now. My guess is that this is where that disposed dehydrator comes into play. To me it indicates some degree of premeditation.

@adda312

Жыл бұрын

Good point!!

I hope the police is also looking into her parents' death and how her ex husband was hospitalized with similar symptoms before. This woman is sussy af.

@paulettebanks3217

Жыл бұрын

😮😮😮

@Jdjustsaying

Жыл бұрын

Her parents deats, I hadn’t thought about that 😮

@kristyw89

Жыл бұрын

She did inherit a house from that, so that would be one benefit of doing that

@bioshawna

Жыл бұрын

Super sus!

@supremacy2040

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I thought the same especially since she inherited it. Would not be surprised if she invited her husband & fam to get rid of them in one fell swoop

Alliteration is always aright and allowed. Thanks for the video Dr. Grande.

My ex poisoned me in 2019 i died , but they bought me back and placed me in an induced coma. I had organ failer and was knocking on the door. When someone does something like this to you , You are never the same again . I left myself in that hospital bed.

@user-zp3oz7op6w

Жыл бұрын

I am so sorry that happened to you! Did he go to prison?

The whole incident is very suspicious from the moment she cooked and served a different meal for her and her children. 😮😢

@bthomson

Жыл бұрын

Yes! And why a lunch anyway? Was this a normal thing with these people?

@lilithowl

Жыл бұрын

​@@bthomsonWhat do you mean why a lunch? People often get together for meals. I don't know where you live, but weekend lunches are a common form of social get together in Australia.

@Anna_Key

Жыл бұрын

​@@bthomson don't forget they were her kid's grandparents. So getting together for a meal is normal.

@It-is-me...Melsie

Жыл бұрын

@@bthomson Is lunch not a normal thing where you're from?

@user-sr1kc6jj2b-p1q

Жыл бұрын

Some kids won't eat stews, especially neurodiverse kids. It's not that uncommon to give them chicken nuggets while the grown ups eat something else. The fact that Erin ate a different meal is more suspicious.

“This may because he has a desire to continue living”… that’s why I’m going to avoid to mushroom foragers… they seem all cute and quirky with their baskets filled with mushrooms but their hearts are filled with HATE. 😂

Firstly, thanks for pronouncing Melbourne correctly. Second, thanks for covering this one. It’s an ongoing investigation and keeping everyone hooked in

I'm guessing 4-7 days before the police file charges against her. It's just a matter of getting enough info for the prosecutor.

My Turkish friend's mother went back to Turkey and was foraging for mushrooms. She was 50+ years old and considered adept at identification and preparation. She developed liver toxicity and failure and SURVIVED!

@tlindsay1007

Жыл бұрын

She was very fortunate!

@BigMacOrange

Жыл бұрын

Did it happen in a single incident or did she develope a tolerance over time?

@Hatbox948

Жыл бұрын

Those people are healthier than us.

@selecttravelvacations7472

Жыл бұрын

Something many don’t know is that in the wild, a non poisonous mushroom can capture poisonous spores from other nearby poisonous mushrooms and become poisonous. yes, I found this out the hard way. I will never forage for mushrooms again. It was baaad.

@anntrope491

Жыл бұрын

Got lucky !

Wow! I’m so impressed that you are onto this case so quickly! I will just add that here in Australia we are still in our winter, so for us it occurred in Winter of 2023. You’ve unearthed so much more information than is covered in our news, and it’s added valuable insight. Thank you Dr. G. ❤

@burnyizland

Жыл бұрын

What even IS Australian winter? Does it actually get cold there?

@richardnolan3903

Жыл бұрын

@@burnyizland Winter is Winter, regardless of the temperature. Ever been to Florida at Christmas time? In the Southern Hemisphere the seasons are the opposite to the Northern Hemisphere.

@burnyizland

Жыл бұрын

@@richardnolan3903 Well that was unnecessarily snarky. And uninformative. I wasn't disagreeing with the seasons being opposite to North America's - I'm a geography major for C's sake. Just curious. No need for you to act like a child.

@Zocorax

Жыл бұрын

​@@burnyizlandwow, your a geography major.

@It-is-me...Melsie

Жыл бұрын

@@burnyizland I don't know why Dick had to be so rude to you. He doesn't seem to know himself anyway and appears to have made assumptions. I'm a Kiwi however I have lived in Australia as well as travelled there quite a bit so I can answer, which is there's no one answer for all of the country. Much of the Northern Territory for instance doesn't really have seasons like Summer, Winter, etc, but has the Wet season, the Dry season, and the Buildup. The months which would be considered Winter it stays hot every day with the temperate at about 30 degrees celcius. And then in other parts there's actually mountains and ski fields. Millions of houses do require heating in Winter as it does get that cold in much of it.

So an update today on this case as the woman in question has now spoken out and the story is this so far…she bought some of the mushrooms from a local store and she used some mushrooms that she had purchased from a Chinese grocery store as well, these I believe she had dried & stored as she bought them some 3 months ago. She had herself also been ill earlier & had on 2 occasions presented to the emergency dept, she had been put on liver protective medication as a result. She had also eaten some of the mushroom on the day and the children ate the meal but they dont like mushrooms so she had scraped the mushrooms off their plates. She admitted that she told some lies that being in relation to the dehydrator saying she had dumped it earlier than she did and that was because she didn’t want her husband to take action to remove her children from her. I cant remember the other lie off the top of my head but it wasn’t anything huge either. The police still haven’t made any arrest and it is starting to sound that this was a terrible mistake. She didnt pick the mushrooms and on that point…it is incredibly easy to confuse mushrooms for sure so all those out there stating brown fins, white fins how stupid can people be not to see that….well they are confusing and that’s why people have become sick in the past. It is difficult to tell the difference. I would have to say even more difficult if they are dried as may be the situation of the Chinese shop situation if they were bought in a dried form…and sadly it may be impossible to track that down as by now it would be different stock. I am just thinking this is a terrible accident that has happened to people she cared for dearly and all hopes she had held to reconcile her marriage are now gone forever. This is so sad for all involved, the families that have lost their loved ones, the woman who states clearly she cared dearly for them, her ex-husband, her children and of course the community. So sad.

@tinasmith7630

Жыл бұрын

If she had got sick way back with liver problems frm these mushrooms she wd know very well there potency.

@OutyMan

Жыл бұрын

Her parents dying last year, and her large inheritance from them. Her ex-husband having life-threatening food poisoning with extended intensive care hospitalization and surgeries after eating one of her meals previously, and similar episodes of unwellness after each time spent with her. This has TruCrime killer cook written all over it. The prosecutors are just trying to build a solid court case before filing charges. This lady's pattern of poisoning is going to be made into 1-hour crime specials 10 years from now.

@kstephenson9465

Жыл бұрын

Then why was there no other cases of people being violently ill or dead from “Asian mushrooms” from same store months back??? Besides no one cooks Beef Wellington with “Asian mushrooms” 🙄

@sarahberry3819

Жыл бұрын

@@tinasmith7630 thats the point I think, she didnt know. Her illness was after eating the meal also apparently so…who was to know? I think this is just a terribly sad situation possibly due to some possible dried mushrooms she purchased from a Chinese store (so she stated in her statement to police) some 3 months before plus some that she had bought fresh from the supermarket. Authorities are saying there have been no other ‘poisonings’ reported…but how do we know that? We all know someone who has been unwell, gone to the hospital or doctors & it has been dismissed as just a tummy bug…perhaps other cases of mushrooms bought from the store were just never determined to be poisoning. Not all drs ask “did you eat dried mushrooms from the Chinese store today?” She may have no idea of anything wrong. Usually after eating a meat dish if people get sick you would first think it was the meat…so…anyway, the toxilogical reports are not out yet or not been released, it could have even been anything that the ex-inlaws and the other 2 people ate before the dinner, after the dinner. It is a mystery still yet.

@sarahberry3819

Жыл бұрын

@@OutyMan there was no proof that her husband’s illness was directly related to her meal. There was no sample of the food taken at that time. It could also be a convenient situation for him to now make statements about her that may not be true. He could be an opportunist or over-reacting to the whole situation. A funny think happens when a recall of items or foods happen…suddenly people put their injury or un-wellness to that item or food. Its human nature at its best unfortunately. They may have consumed something for years, until that event, then suddenly they relate that food or item to the last serious illness they had that coincidentally involved the recalled item. Unless there were samples taken, toxicological tests done, her husband can surmise, but nothing can be proven. It is not proven yet either that the mushrooms were the culprit…they may have been but it might have been something else. She didnt pick them so did the Chinese shop she purchased dried mushrooms at sell death-cap mushrooms? Possible they mad a mistake I guess. On the other hand, she had no reason to poison her ex-inlaws, she is financially secure to all intent & purpose, she & her husband had a workable situation with the children, there was no child custody battles. She would have no benefit from harming any of these people. She could be unhinged of course but no one really knows until the results of the tests are released. Imagine if the 4 adults affected ate something earlier that day from another place and it had noting to do with her at all? Anyway, I guess we will all have to wait & see until then, she is entitled to a presumption of innocence unless proven guilty in a court of law.

Loved the final M part!!!!😂 ...Malevolent Mosaic of Maximal Mumbled Morbidity and Mesmerising Mishaps, all of these certainly are such Mental a case of Myriad Mingled Mysteries... a very witty style and that's exactly what investigating crime on KZread should look and sound like. Well done, once again ✔️

I noticed in the video that when she appeared to be crying, there were no tears. At one point, she rubbed her eyes and glanced at her hands afterwards - why would someone do that unless they’re checking to see if they’re making tears?

@cassandrastone7297

Жыл бұрын

I know she’s guilty, but in regards to your comment, when I cry I check my hands if I use them to make sure I don’t have makeup or an eyelash, debris, things of that sort. That could’ve been why she checked them. Either way I hope she spends her life in prison.

@Oubaitorio

Жыл бұрын

go fullscreen and watch it in 0.25 not a tear in sight

@farqueueman

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I noticed that as well. It's like she was more concerned with removing a lash accidentally or some makeup in her nails. As guilty as sin.

@mddeebp4445

Жыл бұрын

yes! exactly- l noticed this too

She should have said she foraged them herself and due to inexperience accidently picked death caps. It would have still gotten her a charge, but not murder. When she tried to claim they came from a store, she was immediately made into a murderer, because stores don't sell death caps. She may have gotten involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide.

@It-is-me...Melsie

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. It would have still looked dodgy since they've grown on her property for a long time and it is apparently the first time she suddenly decided to go and pick them and use them in a meal neither she nor her children touched (if ignore the ex husband getting very sick for a moment), but it would make her appear to be less of a liar and added some doubt to her intentions.

@catm2454

Жыл бұрын

Yea true

@teresayeates3437

Жыл бұрын

Certainly, however criminals do not think the way we do, which is why we do not commit crimes. For example the average person thinks from point a to point bbto point c, the criminal thinks only from point a to point b, I want to steal, murder, whatever, and then to how they will do it. See how many look shocked or angry etc. when faced with concequences.

@TheMazinoz

Жыл бұрын

@@teresayeates3437 This seems to apply to her. She doesn't come across as the brightest lamp in the room.

@jimmytwostones

Жыл бұрын

She’ll change her story before or at the trial

"This would be bad for business - mostly because of the dying part..." 😂😂😂 Thanks. That made the start of today much funnier.

This was once again a Magnificent Monologue about Mushrooms 👏

I find her crocodile tears to be very disturbing. Thanks for your excellent coverage of the topic, and I love your sense of humour!

@jenitastarr19

Жыл бұрын

I've been hoping that someone would cover this story on YT

@dougwhiley4028

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I first became suspicious when it seemed that she was forcing her voice to sound more upset.

@cinemar

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I wasn't convinced either. They appeared to be very dry tears when sobbing in her driveway. The lack of water seemed weird to me. I think she did this and also caused her ex husband to be sick.

@dougwhiley4028

Жыл бұрын

@@cinemar I think we can safely conclude that she was lying about buying the mushrooms from a shop.

@cinemar

Жыл бұрын

Yeah button, oyster and shitake are pretty much the range on offer at my shop. Very little poison on sale.@@dougwhiley4028

My friend's father in the Czech Republic died from eating poisonous mushrooms. It's normal to go mushroom picking for your own cooking. I don't know how common it is to find poisonous ones, but it was very sad as he died so young.

@Iflie

Жыл бұрын

Immigrants got very sick by coming to Germany and just going to the forest to pick mushrooms like ta home. but they didn't know the local ones so the poisoned themselves and their families. Only the very experienced should go pick wild mushrooms.

@jakubswitalski7989

Жыл бұрын

In Poland, poisonous mushrooms are quite common but deaths are infrequent. Of the 14,000 types of mushrooms we have, up to 250 species are poisonous but only 35 are deadly. Despite how popular mushroom foraging is in rural Poland, every year only somewhere between 8 and 50 people end up hurt severely, of which only a few die. Usually people who go out picking are knowledgeable or at least skeptical enough to throw out anything they cannot identify as edible

@Iflie

Жыл бұрын

@@jakubswitalski7989 I think if you go along since you are a child you wil see things a newbie can't. So it's a lot safer. I used to gather sharkteeth on the beach, it was full of them, ancient ones, black tiny ones or grey and my friend had never done that before. she had the hardest time seeing them between the sand and little black stones. They were obvious to me because I spend all my beachtimes doing that since before i could remember. I'd never go mushroom picking in the woods.

@hanfred

Жыл бұрын

In Switzerland, you're strongly encouraged to show your foraged mushrooms to the "mushroom controller", which is an official function throughout the country, at least if you're not an expert yourself. If one of those death caps is in the basket, you should dispose of all its contents. Or that's what I was taught at a very early age, since that mushroom is pretty common here. I never went mushroom picking myself though, but a few friends do it regularly.

@tlindsay1007

Жыл бұрын

I'd stay away from their Beef Wellington. Just kidding! Actually, having the mushies checked by the mushroom controller is very interesting info--That's the way to do it! @@hanfred

Let me guess, if Erin Patterson's ex-husband and his parents are all dead, the two kids will inherit all their assets, and since Erin is the kids only parent, she will have sole custody of the kids and in turn control of all the assets. I think authorities should also look into the death of Erin's parents to make sure there is nothing suspicious.

@mandymckeown8625

9 ай бұрын

Yep definitely she has no empathy narsissist or psychopath

Early 2000's I knew someone who got served poisonous mushrooms at a Berkeley, CA. restaurant. He ended up fine. That's all I recall. This woman is so guilty she's growing mold spores all over her.

She definitely is a serial killer.... This isn't accidental... She knew exactly what she was doing. Feeding her children something diff ( along with herself) proves it was intentional

@Cinder_311

Жыл бұрын

Mass murderer

@mindeyethemasterscreen2712

Жыл бұрын

​@penderyn8794She also threw out the cooking device she cooked the meal with which was found at the local tip AND she hated the step mother cursing her in public so there's a possible motive.

@bioshawna

Жыл бұрын

​@@mindeyethemasterscreen2712there we go.

@PrecociousFriand

Жыл бұрын

Proof is defined by the fact it is evidential. There isn't any evidence yet.

@jaimediego5109

Жыл бұрын

Not to be a nit picked but I think she is technically a mass murdere. IDK what the death total requirement is to meet the definition ( I think its 4). But serial killers are killers of 3 or more people people with an emotional cooling down between kills.

She knew her former in laws didn’t think she was good enough for their son. Perhaps she didn’t want them influencing him. Thank you for the interesting video Dr. Grande!

@bthomson

Жыл бұрын

But didn't she just totally prove them correct in their bad feelings?

@Anna_Key

Жыл бұрын

​@@bthomson exactly!

@margaretr5701

Жыл бұрын

And her sister?

@meredithisme3752

Жыл бұрын

I agree she was removing the road block her ex husband declined the invitation fortunately

@cabooseabs6864

Жыл бұрын

@bthomson people willing to poison a family don't always make the most rational decisions. There are tons of regular DV situations where the perpetrator is upset at the family of their partner because the family doesn't like the perpetrator because they harm their child. It's like of course a family isn't going to like the partner who hurts their child, but the partner still feels justified in their anger towards the family.

You know you watch too much Dr. Grande when you're waiting to see if he looks to the left or to the right when he says, "only speculating on a situation like this."

If the poison ones were from a shop, there would be a recall of mushroom, and other unrelated poisoning deaths.