Spam buff frost Giant on every wizard101 Twitter accounts

You know its sad when my ice when i was questing using frenzy into Reindeer Knight path B and Blizzard and it was getting more consistent results than frenzy into frost giant. And even nowadays in my 170 ice being my 3rd max, i do frenzy into tier 3 count frokula and then blizzard after, becuase its only 40 damage behind frost giant and i get to cleanup survivors with blizzard. Most the bosses are stun immune and basic enemies die before being stunned anyway. So my buff thoughts were to buff it to around 600 or 620 base damage (right behind forest lord) and remove the stun, or if they really don't want ice to do damage, keep it around 500 damage base (tier 1) but make it to where it gives the user a Power Pip after use so players can then use blizzard after frost giant. Storm lord has this issue now as well being out damaged by orhturus because of the stun it bears, but thats a topic for another day. Great vid! I hope frost giant gets better.

@unbiasvsbias3955

4 ай бұрын

Yo I legit resorted to running dual school on my ice char who runs Orthrus>Giant when solo questing. He's the ONLY char I ever considered running dual school on since I only ever either quest or farm or both etc on my free time on wiz.

Having 7 maxes and not being able to identify with any single one its funny watching people argue over their schools

I just don't get why they are opposed to this change, it's obvious most of the community wants this. They just don't seem very interested in doing anything. Things like this make the community think they don't listen

@IceGoldPvP

4 ай бұрын

The main thing is using well-crafted arguments like these - we need to speak the devs' language, and from there we might be able to get something done

@wesbrown738

4 ай бұрын

@@IceGoldPvP wish it was simple man, wiz is a video game and should be relaxing. The community shouldn't have to expertly debate why a crappy 7 pip AOE should have a useless stun removed. Just change it and if there's so much backlash (doubtful) they can reverse it?

@user-hx3ko7vj4y

4 ай бұрын

It seems to me that most of the backlash they get is when they engage with a tiny subsection, usually on twitter who follow devs, rather than trying to reach the wider community. Even now with discord it's pretty much the same small community that the vast majority of players can't access. Given how long updates and changes are in the works, I'm sure they could spread a wider net beyond social media and give players time to discover it. Instead it seems short-term polls that most players aren't aware of until months after the fact (Leaf storm), which anyone with half a brain knows the majority of life wiz is going to choose that@@wesbrown738

You can't have identity without Ice being able to tank like before bosses & players got crazy pierce

Great seeing you cover this man, I was completely exhausted that day after the thread

They got rid of the weakness that was on powernova why can't they remove the utility on all 7 pip aoes

I might have a solution for those who want stun. Why not give it to Snow Angel? Which let's face it really needs buffiing as well. However I don't even remember the after-effects proper name, that is completely useless. Give snow angel the stun. It would certainly add more useful utility while allowing Frost giant to be buffed and more effective in PVE.

@lordshenhai5321

4 ай бұрын

The after effect of snow angel is 660 3 round dot (without an enchant that is) so the stun for it would be nice as it would give 1 turn of free damage while you get ready to use a finishing spell.

Do not worry, my Ice Wizards.

we could just move the stun to frost angel (since rank 8+ spells get a 50% utility discount ) the new frost angel would be 35+570 and a stun all. Only a 90 dmg loss

@retro6811

4 ай бұрын

but snow angel is also I spell no uses

@retro6811

4 ай бұрын

I think turning stuns into accuracy weaknesses debuf and put it on snow angel which they will also remove the hot from snow angel a turn it into a full damage spell

@scotu9223

4 ай бұрын

@retro6811 i don't think they will ever put a accurancy debuff nor remove the dot on snow angel since it would be chaning a legacy spell.Moving a stun over from frost giant still keeps the Og effects ice gets to use

@user-hx3ko7vj4y

4 ай бұрын

Funny I was thinking the same thing about snow angel having the stun!

you really hate to see such blatant icephobia in the wizard101 community. praying that this unjust bigotry can be silenced once and for all.

"some ppl like the stun" is such a bizarre argument, why should we cater to the few to the detriment of the many? Keep fighting the good fight brother #JusticeForIce

well thought out argumentation. Goated video. You earned a sub

To really add injury to insult, Scarecrow can get up to 630 DRAIN AoE damage and frost giant only gets 505 at max. Scarecrow has a god tire utility that is a million times better than a stun on frost giant. Oh and buff Call of Khrulhu now that scarecrow can get up to 630 drain AoE.

Whether or not frost giant gets another path with the stun removed is the decider if I come back to the game, lol. I really really want to level my ice that's in Celestia so I can main it and was so excited, too, knowing that spellements were coming, but I'm not going to slog through the game with a half useless spell

Hey congrats frost giant was buffed by 110 damage, ya happy? I am.

We got the W

what if they added a new 7-8 pip ice aoe hit? then giant can stay the same. was thinking maybe use the ice jinn or something and just make a new spell quest when polaris raid drops, truthfully i have no say in the matter as i dont have an ice wizard, but it does seem to be a common thread that ice mains want a decent dmg spell. also i can only imagine that the stun at higher levels just adds animation time with 0 utility

They literally cut the spell damage, cut the blade and trap amount, and like….. why

As someone who hates Ice school, I say come on just buff Frost Giant.

Bro as a PvE. player I literally don't ever want to play Ice bc of how bad FG is. Imaging soloing Azteca with max 500 damage (after farming spellements) on Frost Giant all bc of a stun that doesn't matter😭.

7 pip ale spells are supposed to be work horse spells let alone a staple for each school. Storm Lord and Frost Giant have the most useless utility. They just need to remove it off these spells and give the damage it loses because it has the utility currently on the spell. No one is using these spells to use the utility we are using it to go for the kill.

I honestly would not trust the discord to vote in the best interests of ice with regards to Frost giant. Might I remind you somewhere there was supposed to be a poll about whether life wizards want Leaf storm or some other spell. Everyone knows if you actually asked the life wizards what they would choose it would be a resounding Leaf storm. There's definitely some funky goings-on with KI polls. I honestly think it was rigged by KI themselves. I have no proof but there's no chance in hell that doesn't win in a complete landside. I'd also mention the latest monstrology update, Come on people wanted horse types? Yeah right I'm sure. Of all the things in the game we could have, that was the choice! LOL If it by some twist it's legit it certainly is not representative of the community as a whole.

I haven't used 7 pip aoes since dragoon amulets came out. Those and scald incindiate go brr.

Doesn't help almost every boss I've used a stun on even early arc one is stun immune so there's no point in stunning anyone anymore. I remember when stun was actually useful back in 2009 but now it's got no use

I personally think damage should be buffed on giant, but the stun is removed for a sort of shield utility

they need to remove stuns from mobs and bosses too just get rid of stuns altogether stunning isn't it lol

The "it got buffed" argument is so stupid considering so did every other school's 7 pip aoes

I wonder why they did this to frost giant

If we keep the same math that gave frost giant 640 damage, with frost giant's NEW damage, if we get rid of the stun it would have 114 damage per pip and do 798 (probably 800) damage BASE.

@IceGoldPvP

3 ай бұрын

LMAOO that’d be nuts but the damage would end up being ~640 per the devs rules

You guys wont believe what happened

@IceGoldPvP

4 ай бұрын

we won team

KI: "Stun is powerful, so the low damage is balancing the spell." Also KI: "Lets give every major enemy and boss Stun immunity, and allow things to stun players freely." If they wanna make one of Ice's utilities Stuns, they should remove Stun immunity from enemies. Still though, yeah Frost Giant is still weak. Reindeer Knight does more damage for some reason. :/ Nah if you want a REAL argument. I'd say combat falls apart the moment 2v1 Fights were introduced in PvE. Think about it... If fights were 1v1 with better AI, all those spells you wouldn't use, like traps and single target spells, suddenly get a LOT more value in PvE. Also, combat wouldn't get stale since you're using more than buff into AoE.

Why not have the stun AND increase the damage to maybe like 600 so it would be on par with storm lord

@IceGoldPvP

4 ай бұрын

That’d be way above the value that the devs set spells at, so we need to give up the stun to gain damage

@call_me_river

4 ай бұрын

@@IceGoldPvP I mean IS IT tho? They seem to be willing and very much able to change anything as they would like.

so instead of battles on an ice taking 10 years to finish battles now take 5 years to finish some buff lol

Should they do the same thing with storm lord then?

@IceGoldPvP

4 ай бұрын

I think it’d only be fair. It’d do pretty crazy damage but that’s storm’s whole MO so I wouldn’t mind it

@somedudeontheinterwebs45

4 ай бұрын

YES.

@shiki325

4 ай бұрын

Today I feel ice@@IceGoldPvP

So power nova gets to avoid this argument and get buffed but for some reason we need to make up this ice has no damage as a identity as a core argument idk ice to me has always been the high health school not the im basically doing nothing to my enemies school and isn't balance more of the utility school but yet they just get more damage for what? Not saying it should be nerfed but like why isn't that a prime example for why ice shouldn't be buffed i recently got to lvl 48 with ice and tried using frost giant for two ot 3 match than realized im wasting my time and went back to blizzard that's just depressing bro

It needs to be buffed at base not some pitiful 45 extra damage if you want to engage in collecting 600+ spellements

I think stuns need to go from the game since they are not really so useful

I am an ice main so I understand the difficulties of Ice, don't get me wrong I play all roles with max-level stats but within all those roles ice is the main problem. This game is sooooo unbalanced with this class, First, THIS SCHOOL HAS NO IDENTITY I will walk around with 60 to 80 resistance but find other roles to do the same. Second, Ice was supposed to have the highest health in the game but NOOO it's life now. What is Ice's role you may ask? according to the devs "Ice Wizards have the highest natural health points and defenses which enable them to take large amounts of damage without dying. It is very hard to defeat them."

@Prime_Shiroyasha

4 ай бұрын

I have taken a long break from this game so I don't know if things change but this is what I remembered

Ice gold great points but max tier giant at 715 is too much. Perhaps 600-650 would be more balanced for a no stun tier. Ice can’t beat storms 7 pip. Unless they do a similar change to storm lord

@IceGoldPvP

4 ай бұрын

I’d advocate for a storm lord rework too

@johnathangiesler3869

4 ай бұрын

@@IceGoldPvP agreed.. seeing how myth has the strongest 7 pip somehow

see the problem is you’re talking about something that doesn’t really affect the only audience the devs care about anymore, pvp cash cows, so it simply will never be fixed

Booo ice used to be good at PvP so it needs to be bad at everything! Ice should be spending a minimum of an hour on every boss! 375 is too high for frost giant #lowericedpp #nerffrostgisnt #nodamagestatsforice #removeiceblade

@wesbrown738

4 ай бұрын

Fr bro, yeah ice was a demon for a long time but how much more can they be kicked down. They've become a useless school, useless in pve and mid to mediocre in PVP why even play ice anymore

@GirlbossIcarus

4 ай бұрын

@@wesbrown738 they must become worse, because they were good at one point ice has to be useless

Ice is op in pvp now, I saw sauce beat ppl with 8k hp remaining. Ppl can’t weakness, aura or blade against ice anymore.

@IceGoldPvP

4 ай бұрын

I can't speak to TR peev since I've been on vacation this week, but I did see the Coldiron change and thought it was pretty neat. Mammoth sounds like it goes hard too, may give it a shot

i want snow angel 1100 direct damage!

Ice dominated the PvP queue for over 10 years. Wizards across the spiral have suffered at the consequence of ice reigning supreme forever. The double blade, frostbite, into the abom has proven formidable to even the most experienced duelists. Nonetheless, brace spamming on the ice wizard made any attacks against the ice wizard futile. Now, it’s time for ice wizards to pay for the torture they’ve caused to PvP. #nerfice #removeicewizards #ABRACADABRAyouricewizard #ihateice

@IceGoldPvP

4 ай бұрын

aaaand what's this got to do with pve

@LewisRockleaf

4 ай бұрын

Cope, you got dommed by an ice, keep crying

I don’t know, but there has to be more to the picture than what an ice slanted view understands. I don’t mean that against you …I’m simply saying that it’s a perspective that is possibly not balanced, and the devs have a more balanced perspective. That’s the only feasible reason why such changes have not been made. There’s more to the global picture than what the ice slanted viewer understands. No other answer is feasible.