Imagine walking into a lecture hall and seeing the notes of the previous lecture being a doodle of a dog and a pineapple with the words 'a dog' and 'this is a very pleasant pineapple'.

@freebornjohn2687

2 жыл бұрын

Especially if you saw all the students trailing out looking incredibly confused.

@Fidder492

2 жыл бұрын

“It must be philosophy”. Would be my first guess. Especially if someone draws a chair, it’d be a dead giveaway.

@user-nn4gk5tc9q

2 жыл бұрын

Seen worse

@uncleusuh

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-nn4gk5tc9q Please tell us.

@user-nn4gk5tc9q

2 жыл бұрын

@@uncleusuh Aristotle's concept of how sperm work

one must imagine pineapple pleasant

@sidharthwarrier9001

4 жыл бұрын

Camus will be proud .

@yojiviriak675

3 жыл бұрын

Best comment

@shmulilederer8825

3 жыл бұрын

Comment of the year

@bernardocarleial8870

2 жыл бұрын

When Albert Camus goes Wittgensteinian

@bagajohny1673

Жыл бұрын

@@shmulilederer8825 I dont understand it. Could you please provide the context?

"Philosophy is just a by-product of misunderstanding language! Why don't you realize that!" He gets it.

@stant7122

2 жыл бұрын

A misunderstanding on a misunderstanding. Then by chance, just like a broken clock is right twice a day, philosophy may have some understanding. --Me

@covermaiden

2 жыл бұрын

@@stant7122 Socrates.

@cosmojg

Жыл бұрын

They don't understand him. They remain philosophers.

@Opposite271

Жыл бұрын

Maybe philosophy is just misunderstanding language. But an equally valid explanation is that Wittgenstein is the one who doesn’t understand language. Maybe the only option we have is either blind faith or pyrrhonian skepticism.

@doclime4792

4 күн бұрын

​@Opposite271 so a pleasant little pineapple or refrain from speaking? You sound like Wittgenstein.

*Wittgenstein:* It makes no sense to speak of _knowing_ something in a context where we could not possibly doubt it... *Descarte:* well fuck

@buckets3628

7 ай бұрын

Descartes is still valid assuming this, but at face value it’s funny

@Bill-ou7zp

5 ай бұрын

Makes no sense though, because of course ‘knowing’ without doubting is literally as high of a form of knowledge as we can get. That’s what Decartes is saying when he can safely doubt everything but his very self. Decartes is correct.

@buckets3628

5 ай бұрын

​@@Bill-ou7zp I met a hobo the other day who "knew without doubting" that the world was going to end yesterday.

@Bill-ou7zp

5 ай бұрын

​@@buckets3628 Obviously we're not grouping in faith in delusions with faith in true knowledge. That hobo could not provide sound reasoning for his 'knowledge' in the way that Decartes could when he says cogito ergo sum.

@buckets3628

5 ай бұрын

@@Bill-ou7zp The only difference then between delusion and 'true knowledge' is that you need provide 'sound reasoning'. But Sound Reasoning is a subjective attribution, so now we're at a point where 'true knowledge' doesn't take us any further than an agreement with reasoning before branching off. Which I think might be apart of W.'s point here (idfk): something we cannot possibly doubt is a rare abstraction that should be considered in its own right rather than compared to something we can doubt. On this Descartes would agree aswell, I think (I still dfk)

Having Wittgenstein as a professor would have been pretty awesome.

@SpaghettiToaster

4 жыл бұрын

But not as awesome having a lion

@SpaghettiToaster

4 жыл бұрын

@@geolazakis Because lions are EPIC

@tarvoc746

4 жыл бұрын

@@SpaghettiToaster And also easier to understand than Wittgenstein.

@keyboardcorrector2340

4 жыл бұрын

Would've gotten hit a lot but it would've been worth it.

@EGarrett01

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I heard he would beat kids up and once threatened a guy with a hot poker, so certainly entertaining.

KZread recommendations are getting really dank.

Went to the comments in search of discussion, found only memes.

This also explains the communication difficulties between autistic and neurotypical people.

@AdamBechtol

4 ай бұрын

That did kinda of pop up in my thought as well, but I'm not super well versed on it.

My boy Witty G in the house! R A I S E T H E R O O F (3cm)

@mrgomelonsolaris

4 жыл бұрын

wicked smaht

@ba3534

4 жыл бұрын

lol

@econometrics469

4 жыл бұрын

Hhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

@Nif3

4 жыл бұрын

Nice.

@Volthan

4 жыл бұрын

😄😄😄😄😄

Every time I have seen Karl Johnson act, I keep thinking he could have emerged as one of acting greats of cinema if fate had worked itself out another way. I'm that impressed by his talent & command of presence. For the most part of his career, I think he focused on stage. He does have an extended resume in filmography and television, yes. But I can't help but feel we were deprived of a talent that could have had more extensive exposure to the big & small screen in posterity. Shame as it is, I can enjoy this performance & other roles in, such as, HBO's "Rome", "Ancient Rome: The Rise and Fall of an Empire", and sillier, fun films like "The Death of Stalin" and "Hot Fuzz". Thank you, Karl.

@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser

4 жыл бұрын

Yes agreed.

@clocko2700

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe he didn’t want to be famous

@FourOf92000

4 жыл бұрын

he ain't dead; there's still time

@rhizomania7607

3 жыл бұрын

Bold of you to assume that greatness lies on being integrated to the holism of capitalist machinery.

@DavidTheRoss

8 ай бұрын

Cocks

I'm looking at my dog now. And he's lying on the couch.

@kschiavo

4 жыл бұрын

Are you sure you can not doubt that affirmation?

@guidemeChrist

3 жыл бұрын

But how do you know he isn't being sincere on the couch tho

@die_schlechtere_Milch

2 ай бұрын

@@guidemeChrist he plans on being sincere next tuesday

@fitnesspoint2006

12 күн бұрын

The couch also knows there is a dog lying on it.

I watched this film 10 years ago and wasn’t impressed with the acting but after reading his biography by Ray Monk, I think this covers how he’s described brilliantly! Long silences with his head on the table during lectures.

why are there two guys in raincoats? and a guy in shorts? and a guy in a tennis sweater for that matter. wtf is wrong with the people attending???

@razielgalizur2318

6 жыл бұрын

They are all totally different to the point that they cannot see in each others shoes...? Like how we cant imagine what a lions life is like. They cannot imagine their lives any differently.

@Sprite_525

4 жыл бұрын

Bro, academics have no fashion awareness. Philosophy majors are insanely dressed in my experience

@malamindulo

4 жыл бұрын

They just got off their shift at the meth lab.

@medievalmusiclover

4 жыл бұрын

Simply, because we do not understant what symbols are. In concequence, things are words that try to communicate but fail because we do not understand that symbols are limited to show us the undetectable

@timellis7724

4 жыл бұрын

Errr... If you can't handle the deck chairs, then it's best to stay away from the other films of Derek Jarman. On this occasion you are being invited not to loose yourself in the story but remain objective as an outsider.

Why did this appear in my recommendation pages.

@farerolobos9382

4 жыл бұрын

Because you like pineapples?

@franckmarronier130

4 жыл бұрын

Because u r fuckin smort

@david777783

4 жыл бұрын

Because KZread thought it's about time to add some confusion to your life

@mrnarason

4 жыл бұрын

No clue, but I was watching a ton of philosophy video, like Bryan Magee's interviews and this was a great recommendation by KZread's algorithm. Gonna check out the movie now. But it must seem completely random to people to don't care about philosophy.

@dislike__button

4 жыл бұрын

I thought you'd like it

Brilliant acting, and brilliant filmmaking as well! I love the stage approach.

My dog lies everyday and tries to pull the wool over my eyes; especially when it come to his favorite treats. But he is incredibly sincere about his love for me. So take that Mr. Fictitious Wittgenstein.

@estebancabrera8625

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@Aivottaja

4 жыл бұрын

Pretense or deception are not the same as lying. To be able to lie, you need to communicate through language. Also, your dog doesn't love you. It doesn't know what love is.

@apes4days254

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aivottaja I disagree. You can lie using sign language, no?

@Aivottaja

2 жыл бұрын

@@apes4days254 Sign language *is* language, no?

@apes4days254

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aivottaja a dogs actions aren't perceived as language?

Imagine if Wittgenstein live to see "Pineapple pen" meme in 2016

@user-hu3iy9gz5j

Жыл бұрын

He would see his life work succeed. Everything he fought for

@sacha_msky

Ай бұрын

he would turn gay for sure

this scene gives me goosebumps

This is absolutely amazing, the idea that this videos shares is simple, yet so complex and done in such a short period. I absolutely love studying philosophical, sociological, and also linguistical theories and studies, and something I always say is that "languages work with concepts, not with words" most specifically that languages work with our worldview, the way we, humans, see the world itself is completely biased towards not only our own species, but also our completely individual experiences as human beings. As he says it there "to imagine a language is to imagine a form of life". If at times it is difficult to understand or to explain a topic to someone of your same species who too speaks the same language, I cannot fathom how of a challenge it would be to understand a dog or lion language, they are completely different species compared to us, thus having a completely different view of how things work, so it's no surprise Wittgenstein thinks that there are no philosophical questions, but rather only linguistical, but I personally think that these linguistical, mathematical, ethical, logistical and religious problems are all part of what I see as "philosophy". And when he says "this is a very pleasant pineapple", he could be talking about how the pineapple looks, or how the pineapple seems to look, or how it smells, or how it seems to smell for him, or maybe the text, he could not even be talking about your or my perception of what "pleasure" or "pineapple". I believe it's important to separate things between *what is said* vs *what it means*, it is the phrase and "the thought", and what's really dangerous here for me is the question of perspective, even though we may be able to perceive something in a certain way, it's impossible to know if that's what it really means, many people could say the same thing, and to many other people inside their own context and personal experiences, it could mean many different things, it's the ambiguity of linguistics, and to imagine that could be fixed by saying what you actually think precisely using careful and well thought words is really lovely, but merely a delusion. Humanity has this problem of looking for exact views and absolute perceptions where they simply don't exist, we are not perfect, nor is the world we live in, nothing is absolute, we're all living in constant contradicton with the knowledge and the unknown.

"THERE ARE NO GENUINE PHILOSOPHICAL PROBLEMS! ONLY LINGUISTIC PROBLEMS!"

Wittgenstein(this satirical character) is right, we cannot see the world through the eyes of another animal, culture or ethnic religion.Translated mythology or poetry may appear to tell us about a familiar sequence of say natural phenomena, but by rendering these descriptions into ordinary language we miss out on it's essential meaning.

@StarryGordon

Жыл бұрын

I think the lion thing is sort of overworked. The general form of the idea is that those who produce language are embedded in particular material bodies and we can't know what they mean because we do not experience that body. However, as people above have noted, cats and dogs (and, presumably, lions) do express themselves and often we do sort of know what they mean -- "I'm angry", "I'm hungry", "I'm glad to see you," and so forth. The case is not quite as black and white as as Wit seems to be proposing.

I'm addicted to his voice

@sacha_msky

Ай бұрын

one must imagine addiction

whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must remain silent

Wittgenstein is the kind of professor I wish I had when I was at University.

@isaacolivecrona6114

4 жыл бұрын

Really? Are you a masochist? You like being screamed at and abused?

@isaacolivecrona6114

2 жыл бұрын

@@jcudal32 Wittgenstein appear to have been a rather unsympathetic person and not a very important philosophy either. There’s a word for the thing he achieved: a cult of personality.

@martinmaguire-music6692

Жыл бұрын

@@isaacolivecrona6114 When you've tried to study the problem of self-understanding and identity from a philosophical standpoint, (not sociological or psychological) and all you have to go on are the enquiries of Merleau-Ponty, or those of the middle Wittgenstein, then he becomes important. I don't care if he was a dickhead, his remarks on the use of language at the most common and basic level have proven to be very helpful - if a little meandering. Though I don't deny people (my younger self included) gushed at his personality in a way that was philosophically irrelevant, but people will gush, won't they?

@kaffeephilosophy

Жыл бұрын

@@isaacolivecrona6114”not a very important philosophy”? Ridiculous.

Probably will cost me the rest of my life to comprehend this.

@jmarsh205

Жыл бұрын

Howndo you communicate that to me/other readers? What is the function of that feeling/terminology your use? You might say it's a inner, subjective feeling you have, therefore so is your meaning subjective. Wittgenstein thinks meaning can only be captured by referring to what's publicly available. The private [insert word(s) here] is an illusion, but that's not to say you don't have individuality going on in your head, just that we can't produce meaningful 'signs' / representations for such thinking. He famously said the limits of language are the limits of my world.

The uncle of my friend ger, spent many hours sat in front of his peat fire telling stories and sharing time with Wittgenstein, the cottage is located in a sparse unspoilt part of the world with sea otters washing off the sea salt of the harbour in the tiny freshwater stream that ran across the end of his front garden, every evening at dusk. There is a dancing spot just inside the front (and only) door, folks just go about their daily business, the sun shines, the rain falls and all is well where people care for one another....we here in the west, under the shadow of uncertainty, stuck on the threads of a poisonous web of lies spun by crazy people wait...hope.....listen and then despair....time after time.....seek the truth, seek honesty and heed the lesson of the sermon on the mount spoken by a well decent geezer.....👊peace out xxx

@GataZGinkgo

4 жыл бұрын

@@melby1839 where can I learn more?

@paulcunnane4

4 жыл бұрын

What drivel.

@cmoran9103

8 ай бұрын

Where? Ireland? I know Wittgenstein was in Wicklow

"You have lost Rome without even raising your sword!" "You have lost Rome!"

@komina12345

4 жыл бұрын

For real, I know Karl has done other stuff but all I see is Cato

@htf5555

4 жыл бұрын

Calm yourself Cato, you lack understanding of things philosophical else you would see that my actions have been perfectly correct at all times

@ishmaelm1932

4 жыл бұрын

@@htf5555 Ooooooohhhh shiyyyyt. We got ourselves fans of Rome Representin'

@dinosaurfilms

4 жыл бұрын

I knew he looked familiar!

@daniloi.7997

4 жыл бұрын

@@htf5555 I believe it was "of things military" and not philosophical which would be weird as it was Cato afterall.

Reminds me Nagel's "What it's like to be a bat"

@christophergraves6725

4 жыл бұрын

Really, it's the opposite of what Nagel is saying. Wittgenstein is a philosophical behaviorist. He denies there are internal private experiences while Nagel is saying that the bat's consciousness is constructed so differently from ours that we cannot really imagine what it is like to be a bat. Who Wittgenstein reminds me of in the sequence with the lion's language is Heidegger.

Batman's butler among the audience. "Hullo, Batman's butler." "Hullo."

''For me or for the lion?'' Fatality!

This gives a good glimpse into the mindset of the early twentieth century.

This might explain why LLMs hallucinate. Though the use of "hallucinate" in the context of a large language model may itself be trivializing hallucinations.

he looks so much like wittgenstein i had to double check his birthdate like "wtf is that possible"

@williamkoscielniak820

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. I'm amazed they were able to find an actor who looks like a spitting image of Wittgenstein who was also capable of playing his character so well.

Philosophy is just a by product of misunderstanding language. Fuck, this quote changed the way i think drastically

I watched the video without knowing anything about Wittgenstein. Now i know what is he talking about.

"LINGUISTIC CONFUSION MADE ME DO IT" (C) Ludwig Cube Wittgenstein

"Philosophy is just a byproduct of misunderstanding language." Paradox arises because of the misuse of language.

@johnfrancis9086

5 жыл бұрын

Is that profound? Paradox arises because of the misuse of language?

@NiePieerdol

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnfrancis9086 It's not. We need paradoxes to express things exceeding the possibilities of language, I send you all to Jung for more in that matter. If we lived on Wittgenstein's logical language rules, boy it would be mathematically boring!

@montsemajanmartinez9824

4 жыл бұрын

🤔 The question could be asked : Must a truth be Profound in order to be valid?

@thehellyousay

4 жыл бұрын

Paradox arises whenever you have 2 dox...

@TheTheode

4 жыл бұрын

Language muddles axioms and this is why math is the true language of philosophy, honestly philosophy should be separated into different studies as moralists are a completely different breed than mathematical philosophers.

Damnit, I just began to understand Wittgenstein.....

@isaacolivecrona6114

4 жыл бұрын

Stay off the drugs!

this man has obviously never kept a dog in his life

@Adventure_fuel

4 жыл бұрын

Why is this fake intelectual?

@TheyMadeMePickAName

4 жыл бұрын

Rebirth Resurrection an inte- what?

@gemznyan9263

4 жыл бұрын

@@Adventure_fuel intellectual*

To show the chacter of the society in Cambridge through their diverse dressing manners. And to compare with Wittgenstein, who does not fit in his own manners. An accurate, brilliant, "symbolic" representation, including of Russel, Keynes ways shown in their dressing manners

Who has noticed, that the face of the pineapple changes through the scene? What does it mean ?

@jaspreetsingh-nr6gr

4 жыл бұрын

it means that soon, it's going to get a haircut and drive a shiny red mclaren P1, after snorting some *thicc* lines..

@jaspergardner-medwin1723

4 жыл бұрын

It means it's a pleasant pineapple

@YVray

4 жыл бұрын

Whoa, didn't notice that. I doubt there's any deeper meaning to it. It's probably just a gaff in editing. The actor playing Wittgenstein didn't draw identical pineapples in every take so when they spliced bits from Take A and Take B together, we got some shots of Pineapple A and some from Pineapple B.

@paulcunnane4

4 жыл бұрын

To which I say no it didn't.

@sacha_msky

Ай бұрын

it mean that spongebob is homeless

Karl Johson's acting was fascinating, if professior Wittgenstein was really like him, I would really liked him.

@isaacolivecrona6114

4 жыл бұрын

You wouldn’t.

@michaelfern4079

2 жыл бұрын

If you were a kid and you got something wrong, he’d whack you over the head. He fled from a job after a child collapsed after thumping him.

@hellap.6572

2 жыл бұрын

@@isaacolivecrona6114 how t f u know

@hellap.6572

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelfern4079 pretty much agreeable

@isaacolivecrona6114

2 жыл бұрын

@@hellap.6572 Reading biographies.

If you drive through Norway there is a little town by a beautiful turquoise lake. Next to a little camping site on the other side of the water there is an almost hidden, worn-out sign that says: "Wittgenstein's hut”. Me and my family stumbled upon this by mere accident and followed the sign up a narrow path and it leads you to a small overgrown stone-house foundation on the edge of a steep cliff overlooking the serene lake. Also, I heard Wittgenstein was gay.

@kolbeinlkka3682

10 ай бұрын

They buildt it back up. The house was never demolished, just moved.

There are two philosophies for Wittgenstein. This is his first philosophy --> 3:39 Later in life, he himself criticized this first philosophy of language. In his second philosophy, language is a social activity, not just for philosophical questions.

@dumitruvegas149

7 ай бұрын

go and search "wittgenstein brought back to life" - thank me later

Neuroscience has told us that language can affect our perception of life by changing its brain chemistry

@tenbre5748

5 жыл бұрын

Though I respect your delivery of information and regard it as accurate, I do not like that the rhetorical structure of your argument. To me, it implies that science must confirm an idea and/or that the scientific method is without fault. That, however, is a perception - you may have typed your comment because you find it interesting for example. The structure of the phrase presents no obvious attempt at the rhetorical, other than an observation.

@aegisrille4546

5 жыл бұрын

@@tenbre5748 The comment doesn't seem to imply that at all. It's not an argument, it's an observation of a fact that is related to the topic.

@tenbre5748

5 жыл бұрын

aegis rille I mean, I realize this now that I not suffering from a major fever and wacked or on cough syrup. Wiggenstein p deece though.

@kvnboudreaux

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly one of the way trauma survivors integrate their fragmented sensory memories is to put them into words...

@loveulez

4 жыл бұрын

We knew that already

I can’t understand, because it’s a “pleasant pineapple”. This man was a genius.

@zootsoot2006

Жыл бұрын

It's not a pleasant pineapple compared to mine.

@janremoto4849

8 ай бұрын

He wasn't supposed to lie or it's over. So what?

Quite the colorful crowd. The one in red: would that be Bertrand Russell?

Good way to understand that we do not understand what we should understand but only because we do not understand how to understand symbols.

@iunnox666

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, it sure it a good way to get hung up on words while providing no solutions or anything else of value.

Hello fellow brains, whirring through this virtual world

@josephhoward4010

4 жыл бұрын

Bello

@terencemichaels

4 жыл бұрын

Hi there.

@MrScreaminglarry

3 жыл бұрын

Fellow brain passing by. Hello.

@ricochetsixtyten

3 жыл бұрын

im not a brain

@DSAK55

5 ай бұрын

wrong Ludwig

it is not generally agreed upon that wittgenstein really wanted to say that philosophy itself is the thing with the problem in his first tractatus.

@DarkAngelEU

4 жыл бұрын

But isn't it more that there is no problem with philosophy, as there is a moral crisis among human thought? Sartre, Foucault, Deleuze, Derrida, Chomsky, all have alot to say about this. Wittgenstein just went "bleuhdzbczozdlehbclzfqunelzf,qef" and checked out.

@davejacob5208

4 жыл бұрын

@@DarkAngelEU wittgenstein actually was very analytically, more in the direction of the opposite of "bgdjgdsjgnj"

Philosophie ist ein Mißbrauch von Terminologie die zu diesem Zweck eigens erfunden wird. -- Heine

This small excerpt of a film does not do justice to Wittgenstein, though Lord knows I have found him to be difficult. In the early days he was associated strongly with the Vienna circle of philosophy. They were against metaphysics/religion, every statement had to be testable/objective or it was metaphysics. After he wrote his magnum opus outlining his theory held gave up on philosophy as in his opinion he had solved the problem of philosophy. Later he returned to philosophy as he became aware that his account of language was deficient. He then championed his philosophical psychology. Objectivity was achieved by the language that we share with each other eg English. These are my words that I write but hey are still English. there would be no point in having a private language as it could not be shared

if we can't speak of doubt , we can't speak of knowledge either

@faviod752

6 жыл бұрын

But knowledge and doubt and led by a rule. Awareness of a rule imply awareness of the lack of it, this is, a person can tell when someone follows the rule if and only if the very same person can tell when someone doesn't follow the rule. To know X I have gone through a rule - mathematical, physical, chemical, etc.- and the possibility of a missaplied rule is always present (as suggested in on certainty: a rule that tells people when a rule is correctly applied is useless, because it goes ad infinitum). Because of this knowledge and doubt are either together. To think of an absolute "knowledge", Wittgenstein invites us to think of what rule we followed to have that knowledge, and what a mistakes in this "absolute knowledge" contitutes to make it impossible. Because of the rule-following conditions, such "absolute knowledge" is senseless. This does not plead for skepticism, the very condition of knowledge and doubt is being tied together.

@LuyahDunnit

6 жыл бұрын

Doubtin Thomas you know you are in pain because you know when you are not in pain and the same goes for when you observe others. Wittgenstein is trying to say that differing perspectives and outcomes that can be linked to the same conclusion are what create the absolution of knowledge

@KeeperOfProphecies

6 жыл бұрын

What is doubt without knowledge? What is light without dark? etc. etc. Tautologies that are nonsensical. If you cannot doubt, you cannot know as there is only knowing; in what manner can one doubt when it doesn't exist?

@John-lf3xf

5 жыл бұрын

cloud y That’s a false bifurcation

@John-lf3xf

5 жыл бұрын

fret wait no.... why?

A word is not the thought, it's merely a clumsy portrayal of a thought. We only understand the approximation of what a person means when they say something.

@hellucination9905

4 жыл бұрын

Significant/significate distinction.

To SS. Language is what we say. It doesn't tell us anything. We create it. His point is to show that misunderstanding of how language works leads to non sense and/or pseudo problems.

@Jamie-js3qw

4 жыл бұрын

that makes no sense. be clearer or less superficial.

@davidpiersol2375

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jamie-js3qw it makes perfect sense. Think more clearly.

@bobolinkr

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidpiersol2375 explain it then, so we can see if your language should tell us anything about how your mind works

@televikkuntdaowuxing

4 жыл бұрын

bobolinkr it is quite well explained, and with the video explanation it should be more than enough. If you still don’t get it, go look up wikipedia’s explanation, or watch some godard movie (preferably My Life to Live). You’re not gonna instantly understand everything people throw at you, you’ve got to make an effort for the developing of your intellect. The video’s basic idea, and of the original comment too, is words by itself are dead. We give meaning to them, so we never can be certain we are correctly filtering and organizing our thoughts, or that we’ve been understood. I’m sure you’ve experienced this before, this feeling of being sure you’re not being correctly understood by someone, or being insufficiently able to express your thoughts correctly. Wittgenstein takes this as the base, and develops it to understand why philosophy exists and why even problems exist at all. Sorry if my english is kinda bad, not my first language.

@iunnox666

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jamie-js3qw You understand, it's just that it is as superficial as it sounds. Words don't have meaning by themselves, we all have internal dictionaries translating it into our native thought patterns. Very obvious and basic stuff, but some people like to jack themselves off by explaining it in the most convoluted overly verbose manner possible.

Look at my dog. My dog is amazing. And so is my pineapple.

"ooh deeeaah"

the correct definition of a word or sentence is the intended idea in the mind of the speaker at a point in time. . Words are intended to convey ideas, but much communication may be unintended.

4) Again, the point is to show that weekdays don't belong to a dog's "form of life".

@DSAK55

5 ай бұрын

everyday is the weekend for a dog

So much of his writings come off as an Autistic person metaphorically screaming at the disconnect between language and societal promotion of "honesty," and the actual material state of what he lives in and sees. I say that as someone who is Autistic and find his writings on language and honesty almost descriptive of my thoughts, but phrased more concisely. "Limits of my language mean the limits of my world."

"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough."

@topspinaurelius

4 жыл бұрын

that is the standard reply of ppl who are either too lazy and / or too dumb to understand a specific subject

@hookflash699

4 жыл бұрын

@@topspinaurelius "The Emperor's new clothes are absolutely *stunning*!"

@topspinaurelius

4 жыл бұрын

@@hookflash699 , you can copy and paste a million of these trite "truisms" and there is still just a vacuum between the ears afterward, worthwhile thoughts and understanding require real effort

@GurniHallek

4 жыл бұрын

@@topspinaurelius Yeah, yeah, sure, we all just a bunch of peasant who do not understand the deep profundity and world-turning wisdom that is hidden in this gem of philosophy. Unlike you, who are clearly superior to us, if only by the virtue of assuming that this gibberish has some profound meaning hidden in it.

@tangerinesarebetterthanora7060

7 ай бұрын

Wittgenstein could really have taken his own advice more, it seems.

"This is a very pleasant Pineapple" is subjective. Language that is subjective is a language only spoken by the subject. It belongs wholly to the speaker. He is correct. Nothing is hidden and all is open to view once you understand why language is subjective and learn the language the speaker is speaking.

@dionbridger5944

Жыл бұрын

Inter-subjective. See Wittgenstein's private language argument.

Karl’s Wittgenstein looks so sad, staring off during pauses. How do you perform a deeply lonely man, when one could not possibly know what his world was like?

The best unintentional asmr😂

The object is the pineapple. The pineapple is moving in the direction of ”pleasant” with the ambiguous quantifier “very”. The pineapple serves us as an atomic fact simply due to its existence in the first place, and the fact that its constituent parts are of no use in this context.

Now I think what he is getting at but no sooner did i think than I lost it again.

Absolute Genius.......

The quickest way to solve any problem is to stop thinking about it.

well enough ❤

The words here are to be thought of with the smile, the posture, the nodding of the head, etc. They don’t convey any facts about the pineapple and could’ve been replaced with “yum!”

Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus 4.003-4.0031

I'm currently rotating a 3D very pleasant pineapple in my mind

Gold. Like a pineapple. Made of gold. Pleasant gold.

Geez man okay you win

This reminds me of Charlie Day in Always Sunny

@DSAK55

5 ай бұрын

you obviously don't get the implication

2:46 can someone explain this part to me please? “If you cannot doubt a thing, you cannot know it.” Why is that?

@xavierdeltoro2886

2 ай бұрын

to negate "i know" is to say "i don't know" (i.e. doubt), so to use the phrase "i know ___" means that the thing known must be capable of being doubted for it to make sense that it is known

Bill Nye giving an actual lecture

there is no recording of Wittgenstein's voice?

"It's not the dog we need".

*Wittgenstein:* this is a very pleasant pineapple *The **_'this is not a pipe'_** painting guy:* No, this is not a pineapple

They have taught several animals a rudimentary form of language. So I would reason to think that that means our world is much more objective than we think

@weewee2169

2 жыл бұрын

noam chomsky would disagree

Sane as a box of frogs innit!

Where can I get the full video?

0:34 That guy's face omg

A reflection: Wittgenstein would cut no mustard with an _Ofsted_ inspector. He would be thrown out of any university nowadays for aggravating or offending students. Yet, he was one of the finest teachers the world has ever known. What does this say about our present civilisation?

@ryangarritty9761

4 жыл бұрын

Well, that it's chock full of crap.

@montsemajanmartinez9824

4 жыл бұрын

...🤔...that the pineapples are no longer present?

@starless5668

4 жыл бұрын

One of the world's finest philosophers? Yes. Teachers? Maybe less so...

@loveulez

4 жыл бұрын

Civilisation my arse.

@PseudoPseudoDionysius

4 жыл бұрын

He literally had to stop teaching because he kept beating up kids for getting maths wrong. Good philosopher =/= good teacher.

i keep coming back to this video because of how non-sensical it is

Wittgenstein is genuinely one of the only writers who has any philosophical value. Rule theory is cool. Most of the good philosophers imo are really cultural critics or authors or writers, creators of some kind, but imo Wittgenstein breaches a science of human existence. Thank God I saw this clip and could be remember its not pronoucned "wit" w my hillbilly asssss

@DSAK55

5 ай бұрын

"Most of the good philosophers imo are really cultural critics or authors or writers, creators of some kind" Schopenhauer would agree

The position that there are no philosophical problems is a somewhat problematic philosophical position.

@harshaldesai6209

4 жыл бұрын

Wittgenstein: Aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrggghh

@patdoyle2003

4 жыл бұрын

Yup...that says it alright.

@htf5555

4 жыл бұрын

*storms out*

I'm surprised there's no YTP on this.

Did the dog eat the pineapple?

I have proper issues here, my cat is called Pavlov and my Labrador comes to the name schrodinger. Then I’m told my dog can’t understand me. Mind blown.

3) everybody understands what a pleasant pinneaple is?

@DSAK55

5 ай бұрын

especially if you've had an evening with an unpleasant pineapple

please what’s the name of that movie?

He lived in the time of Einstein, but did he have the Wit of Einstein? That’s the question on his last name

"When you want to know the meaning of a word, don’t look inside yourself. Look at the uses of the word in our way of life. Look at how we behave." Study history.

@DSAK55

5 ай бұрын

look to Charles Sanders Peirce

Language is just the shapes of lines and curves in a pattern, but it can't specifically explain itself, it takes a slight variance in meaning to all people, and the slight variances is what creates philosophical debates, hence why misunderstanding language is a byproduct of philosophy

@leonlx564

4 жыл бұрын

wow, you really understand nothing huh

@khiemluong4591

4 жыл бұрын

@@leonlx564 yes I dont understand anything. I dont even know what language or what I am typing down right now mean

@leonlx564

4 жыл бұрын

@@khiemluong4591 if you are think yku are emulating Wittgenstein's view, you are failing remarkably.

@leonlx564

4 жыл бұрын

@@khiemluong4591 i would reccomend AC. Grayling's summary of his works if you want to actually learn it.

@DSAK55

5 ай бұрын

philosophy is a byproduct of misunderstanding language

i luv th furniture, camera on a rail? cool swing no less!

He went a tad Fuhreresque at the end!!

@AimanAbdallah1720

4 жыл бұрын

he was classmates with Hitler after all

@gargarcomedy

4 жыл бұрын

@@AimanAbdallah1720 teachers were busy so lol

@Aivottaja

4 жыл бұрын

Well, they went to the same school, so..

@dionbridger5944

3 жыл бұрын

@@AimanAbdallah1720 It makes you wonder what was going on at that school.

American Pie-napple?

I enjoyed it, but a problem I've always had with reenactments is that they tend generally to overdramatize ... was Wittgenstein really such an emotional lecturer? I do know he got in trouble for boxing his female students' ears.

@NightDoge

8 жыл бұрын

+Safespace Invader -- He was very emotional. I heard in a lecuter that in one of Russel's diaries he said of Vitty, along the lines of, "There's a crazy German in my office yelling at me in German". (Austria, but whatevs.)

@contemporaryart5718

7 жыл бұрын

I happen to love you Kant. I appreciate all you have done to stop the forward march of demons within atheism and indeed you rival, one Adam Weishaupt.

@keyboardcorrector2340

5 жыл бұрын

Friedrich Schopenhauer, He knocked a boy unconscious once because the boy could not adequately follow along with Wittgenstein's teachings when he was lecturing at a youth school in some village in Austria.

@Jide-bq9yf

4 жыл бұрын

Friedrich Schopenhauer there you go .

@LuigiSimoncini

4 жыл бұрын

I read he menaced Karl Popper with a poker once during a debate