YOU NEED TO UPDATE YOUR REVIEW. In late 2022, someone at Withings/Health Mate thought the app needed upgrading, and in doing so completely wrecked the functionality. My scales no longer talk to my app, and despite uninstalling and reinstalling the app several times under instruction from Withings, disassociating, resetting, rebooting it still failed to work. It used to be a good hardware software marriage, now it's ruined. Your review while current and relevant at the time is no longer that way. If I saw your review and then bought the scales, I'd be disappointed in the scales and angry that you failed to mention the pitfalls of the app update.

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

Hello Josh. I can only report what I observe and experience. My Body Scan talks directly to my app and whilst the UX/UI has changed to some extent recently, it works without difficulty. All of the readings I took with the Body Scan this morning are on my app. Having said all that, I will try to pin your comment as it could be that other users are experiencing the frustrations that you are. I am using an iPhone 12 Pro Max running the latest iOS, 16.2. The app may function differently on different devices.

@joshjoshspangler

Жыл бұрын

@@OldManRunner yeah, fair enough. Just my experience and after reading a few forums, looks like I'm not alone. Pity, it was a good scale/app, now, not so much.

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully they will improve it as designers constantly tweak the UI/UX. I also use the web application which can be easier to read

@manoelguidialvares6903

Жыл бұрын

Just received mine, so far, no problems

@joshjoshspangler

Жыл бұрын

@@manoelguidialvares6903 Good luck!

living the two watch life i see! love it - just ordered this to a friends house in Europe, excited to try it

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

Yep...would probably wear 4 if I could!

@MindBlowingXR

11 күн бұрын

Shervin, did you end up liking yours? I'm a fan of yours and would love to know if you like this scale because I'm on the verge of ordering one right now.

It would be great if you could check the measurements with more professional body composition analysis device like Tanita DC-430MA and than compare. Every better fitness gym has one, would be very interesting, to know if the results are comparable. Great review, thank you!

@OldManRunner

10 ай бұрын

Great idea. Will try to find one here in Dublin, if not when I go on my travels to new York in November...

Nice - thanks for uploading this!

Great review, and appreciate the side by side video of what is going on in the app.

Definitely sounds like it's well worth the investment Barry. I'll have to watch this week's again to make sure I catch all the metrics it collects!

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

I realised after I finished the video that I didn't explain each of the metrics...so I might try and make a short video on each of them...

@bev9708

Жыл бұрын

HAPPY NEW YEAR Bartek!! 🙋🏻‍♀Did Santa bring you what you wanted?

@bartekzielinski1645

Жыл бұрын

@bev9708 yes : - ) some quiet relaxing time on the Mornington Peninsula - even managed to get a few trail runs in. What about you?

Thank you for the review. I'm still waiting for the US release.

Great review, very detailed! Thank you!

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

A weighty review….!

@MsSile

Жыл бұрын

@@OldManRunner by a lithe runner! Looking forward to more of these reviews.

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

@@MsSile The next one might not be so palatable…hopefully it will be on their U-Scan… which looks really interesting

Nice review Barry 👍 Happy new year I've got the withings body cardio so it's hard for me to justify especially as I have Tanita body scan which does full segmental analysis and metabolic age 😉 The vascular age is estimated from the pulse wave velocity analysis - this is an indirect measurement of arterial stiffness

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you are covering all the bases just like me. I was standing on it this morning wondering if the vascular age it is giving me will change when i get to 60...time will tell...Happy New Year!

@lifephorce

Жыл бұрын

@@OldManRunner Its certainly another nice bit of kit from withings. I was / am still tempted to buy 😁 I use their BPM Core to track BP, heart valve health and ECG Will be very interested to hear how you get on with the subscription Their new "streaming" service could tempt me too ( urinalysis ) once it's on android ☹️

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

Ha! Yes I signed up for an early alert for the streaming service...might have to put some warnings when I make the video...might get a pump for Quinn...

thank you, very helpful review

Nice video. I was keen to see if you were getting any ECG measurements from the Body Scan - because I am not with mine. This is shown as a "key selling point" in all their advertising in the UK. When you stood on the scales there was no ECG measured, and towards the end of your video you mentioned that you were not getting ECG readings. "Disappointing", if this not available.

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

Hello Chris. The Body Scan can take them but they are not enabled yet in Ireland. Due to go live later this year I think. Not sure about in the UK. Will try and find out for sure

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

OldManRunner Chris. My ECG is now active on the Body Scan. It says that it is medically certified for the European market. I presume that includes the UK, but post Brexit I can't be sure

@chrisgems9020

Жыл бұрын

@@OldManRunner That's really kind of you to tell me this. Yes, indeed, the ECG function has now been activated in the UK too, so I look forward to using this as well. Keep up your good work !

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisgems9020 Cheers Chris!

Ahhh you do love your gadgets Barry, enjoy!! And HAPPY NEW YEAR too!!! 🙋🏻‍♀ Did you get what you wanted from Santa?

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Santa brought me some On-Running gear… which I will review in a few weeks… hope you got all you wished for. Happy New Year!

@bev9708

Жыл бұрын

@@OldManRunner Ohhh NICE!!!! I got some Jabra wireless earbuds for running, but actually they don't stay in even for walking!! At least this time of year I like to run with a warm headband or my Buff around my ears anyway so that keeps them in for now while it's cold!

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

@@bev9708 It is hard to get a pair to fit…and it’s hard to try them in store. I think I have another pair arriving to test in a few weeks. Hope they fit.. it isn’t very cold here… only wore the beanie a couple of times in the last few weeks. It’s 10 Celsius here at the moment…

@bev9708

Жыл бұрын

@@OldManRunner YES it’s been quite warm , up to 13-14 degrees here!! 🤷🏻‍♀️

Hello ! Thank you for a great review of the Withings Body Scan ! I am thinking of purchasing the scale and would like to know how you have been finding it since your review ? I'm aware of the limitations of this technology so would be more interested in the trending than the accuracy of the actual data. Can I ask if your data is consistent ? Do you get many rogue results ? After having a bad knee injury and significant muscle loss in one of my legs, I was wondering if this would help me track muscle gain in my recovery ? Thanks again for your time 😊

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

I have been using the scale consistently and the results have been consistent. I haven't been getting bizarre shifts in the data. What does happen is that not all of the sensors make readings all of the time. Sometimes the Pulse Wave Velocity does not read. I think that the software is a little buggy and you should read the comments below to see other people's experiences. Having said all of that I am happy with the scales and the muscle mass v fat mass figures do track and change as I eat more or exercise more. Hope this helps.

Don't bother with the Body Scan! I'm on my 2nd replacement unit, each showing different hardware faults. Support are really dragging their feet, just keep telling me it's being investigated, when they bother telling me anything! My Health+ subscription is ticking away in the meantime! I've dusted off my old Body Cardio, it still works, more reliable and far better built and more solid, new units feel like flimsy plastic. I'm about ready to dump Withings all together and look round the market at Omron and others.

Unfortunately, the scale is highly unreliable and inaccurate. I had a Withings Body+ for years and the measures have always been stable and reliable. Since I moved to the new Body Scan, my fat percentage is gone crazy. According to Body Scan, I have a fat percentage of 3-6% which is absolutely untrue as the Body+ continues to record this as 14%, which is more in line with other scales I have tried. Plus, stepping on the Body Scan twice with a minute interval records a fat percentage of 3.1%, followed by 6.1% and 7.4%. I don’t think my body fat can change that much in a minute. The PWV is rarely captured and I have to step on the scale twice to get this measures, which also causes the fat % to change dramatically. For the price, this must not happen so avoid buying it

@jonsmith8924

Жыл бұрын

Just a note the Body+ only records your body fat% of your legs and the body scan records torso and legs. So they will always be different.

W😅ell done! This device was just released in the USA and I’m straddling the fence as to whether or not to spend $400.

@OldManRunner

10 ай бұрын

I am still enjoying mine, and happy to have it, but the software is a bit buggy. You can see some other peoples frustrations in the comments below...

@Phoenix-ov5gg

2 ай бұрын

@@OldManRunnerin what way is it buggy?

@OldManRunner

2 ай бұрын

It sometimes gives different data sets on the screen. Then the pulse wave velocity started to give error messages and work infrequently. Then it stopped working completely a couple of months ago. Very frustrating

Does anybody know if the ecg is also exported to Apple health?

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

I don't think so. Apple Health can share data with Withings Health Mate, but I don't think it works the other way around with ECG. There is an item about it here: support.withings.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/12311357471505-ECG-data-sync-to-Apple-Health

great video

Hello Barry, How do you sync your Garmin Watch with Healthmate App ? Trying to do that, but I don't see how...

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

Ralph, I think I did it this way: support.withings.com/hc/en-us/articles/6251527895313-Health-Mate-iOS-App-How-to-connect-Garmin-Connect-to-Health-Mate- I use Apple Health and also MyFitnessPal Not exactly sure how I did it ...hope this helps...let me know if it doesn't work and I will do some more testing...

@ralphbirden6168

Жыл бұрын

@@OldManRunner Thanks alot Barry, i'm going to try that this evening and let you know.

@Dirty_Jester

Жыл бұрын

@@OldManRunner the body scan does not share info to Garmin connect right?

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

I set it up so that my Withings writes to Apple Health. I have it set so that the Withings can read and write all data with Apple Health. My Garmin Connect is not connected to my Withings. My Garmin Connect is connected to my Apple Health, however I don't allow it to write to Apple Health. Ideally the data, that I would select, such as weight would come through Withings, to Apple Health and then to Garmin Connect, but I have not been able to do this. Because I wear the Garmin and Apple Watch I try not to sync all the data as both count steps and heart rate etc. To make things more complicated I also use My Fitness Pal. My understanding is that you can route Withings data through this to Garmin Connect. I am not 100% sure that this works as my weight does not update in the Garmin Connect App Not sure what I have done is the ideal setup, but it seems to work for what I need. I am tempted to strip it all back and start again with all the permissions... Hope this helps...

Withings Scan Scale released in early December 2022. Problem and complete B/S from the 1-800 number, and they lie like they had no idea what was happening and ask for all kinds of information. Maybe if we all returned the scan scales for a full refund, France would get the message. The API is not rocket science. All of the scale data show up on my iPhone. Someone in France forgot to update the data display on the web and completely rewrite the 'Measurement Details to include all of the original information the way it was, plus all of the new scan information as it is displayed on the scan scale, along with updating the graphs. This is my 4th scale from Withings, with 12 years' worth of continuous data until my scale arrived on January 9, 2023. This a really big disappointment!!

Interesting stuff. Nearly the cost of a divorce in UK,not sure which is more beneficial for health...🤣 If Doc told me I would only live till 70,I wouldn't be very happy,Barry,u only got 10 yes left!

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

Looking on the bright side … it means you’ve only ten years of these videos to watch!

@alanrobinson2229

Жыл бұрын

@@OldManRunner Omg....🤣🤣🤣 Silver lining

Does the Withings body scan measure metabolic age?

@OldManRunner

9 ай бұрын

Not as far as I know. It does give your Vascular Age.

I wonder why this isn’t available in the USA yet?

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

Withings say that they are working with the FDA to have the device clinically validated. Maybe it is more complicated than they thought...

Is there difference in results between body scan and body+? Ive been using body+ from 2018 and its great product

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

The Body Scan captures more data than the Body+, such as ECG and Segmental Body Composition. They both measure weight and I did not notice any difference in my results when I moved over from the Body+ to the Body Scan. Hope this helps.

@markkeli

Жыл бұрын

@@OldManRunner So no difference in results between two devices in bone mass, fat mass and muscle mass?

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

I just tested myself on both. My weight is measuring about the same 83.05/82.9. I am not sure the Body Scan measures the other metrics and outputs them in the same way. I will do some investigating to be sure of what exactly is happening

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

I did some more tests. The Body Scan and Body+ do not measure all of the same things and not in the same way. The data they present is in different formats in the app and on the web. What they both measure and display on the scale readout, weight and BMI have been consistent and each machine gives consistent results independent of each other (at least in my testing). The Body Scan gives Fat, Muscle and Visceral Fat expressed as a percentage. These add to 100% or (99.8% on my test). The Body+ gives a Fat% and a Water% on the display (which add to 64.7% on my test) and gives Bone Mass in kg and Muscle Mass in kg on screen. On the web it gives Fat Mass and Lean Mass as %'s and they add to 100%. It gives Water mass independently as a %. It gives Bone Mass and Muscle Mass as % and they add to almost 100. The data from the Body Scan is easiest to interpret in the app, particularly in the Segmental Body Analysis area. The data I get here is similar between the two machines, Body Scan and Body+ There is a lot of comparing apples to oranges in the system, whilst also looking at them through different lenses.. Withings have some way to go to consistently display the information between the display of the scale, the phone app and the dashboard on the web. The measurements for me do have occasional bugs and glitches but largely the data is consistent. I am most interested in the relative data rather than the absolute data. I want to know when the data changes, trending upwards or downwards and whether it is going in or out of positive healthy range. I hope this has helps...

@kevinmayfield7704

Жыл бұрын

Have just been reading up the theory behind this. The reliability of impedance measurements for runners/cyclists isn't going to be reliable as it's measuring body fat mostly on the legs. In my case (and in the video) this would give a 7-11% body fat reading. I suspect my whole body fat reading is 15-20%. So for me I'm getting a 7kg reading for fat mass, I think the real figure is more around 10-15kg. I'm going to try measuring with callipers and see what that gives. If it's around 15-20% mark, I'm getting body scan :)

Great video, though I can't justify dropping £400 on one, despite how much I love data. Good luck with the training for race day, and with avoiding any more unwanted reflections 😂

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Chris. Sadly I get to see the reflections every day...and they are telling me to lose more weight...

@Chris_Baily

Жыл бұрын

@OldManRunner the scales at my gym told me to also lose weight last week after 6 weeks out through injury (calf strain) and only Christmas foody treats to keep me going. So my reflections are nothing to write home about either 😀

@OldManRunner

Жыл бұрын

@@Chris_Baily Best wishes with managing the injury.

@Chris_Baily

Жыл бұрын

@OldManRunner thanks, this weekend I have permission to transition from brisk walks to run-walks. Ooh, the excitement 😀 Though I know I've got to manage the load, and not push too hard too soon, otherwise I won't be able to finish my big marathon in April.

Two big problems that are not mentioned in this review. (1) The accuracy - most of these devices are unreliable! You can get vastly different results in just the space of a day! (2) Definately not worth the £400 mark. I think Withings are using the psychology that "if it is that expensive it must be good". And actually other companies make similar products (the well know Tanita and Omron) - both at the £70 mark - so a lot less (if you want to still waste your money).

@petervansan1054

Жыл бұрын

no one makes same product... you need the handles and almost no other scales have that

@kevinmayfield7704

Жыл бұрын

It will do. For me I tend to look at the overall trend. I do two measurements per day, one in the morning and the other is normally post exercise. Exercise and even just sitting at my desk all day trigger different readings. A bath, for me triggers a poor reading as electrical resistance of my body is less.

@christoph2079

8 ай бұрын

Functionality and connectivity is far better at Withings.

Bad products!