Wiseman was the best villain in my opinion. He was more intelligent than lazy Beryl and was not redeemed by the power of love like the other villains later on. He was a pure evil bastard who gave you all the right reasons to hate him.

@leandromouli

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed! The only one who could compare to him in wickedness is Pharaoh 90, but in Sailor Moon S he is just a great amount of black matter without voice. We can have a glance of his evil only in Sailor Moon Crystal.

@chronoplex89

3 жыл бұрын

Then it took two silver crystals to kill him. Doubling how crucial the climax was.

@artemsmirnov1134

3 жыл бұрын

NeoQueen Serenity hated only one person. She didn't want to look at him. That's why we see Wiseman as a shadow in the hood.

@eymed2023

2 жыл бұрын

I WILL agree the Wiseman was clever and very hateable. But I still pick Ann and Alan as my favorite villains. (I saw the DIC dub). First, they actually had a genuinely good motivation and weren't just evil for the sake of being evil. They had to get energy, or else they would DIE. And that whole point about "positive" energy is an great metaphor. Second, they actually CARED for one another. Most other season 1 and 2 villains don't give a DAM about eachother and just want to win. (And while the Dark-Moon sisters DO care for one another, they bicker WAY too much over their own egos. Sailor Moon is ALL filled with annoying arguments and stereotypes about beauty, but season R cranked it up to eleven!) Ann and Alan had a good balance of sweet moments in-between the bickering. Which is realistic for a couple. Contrast this to Rei, Luna, Serena, Rini, etc. who all bicker WAY too much, it becomes annoying. And they RARELY show any affection to counterbalance it. Oh, and there's also the oposite end of the spectrum, where you have Zoysite and Malekite (I think that's how it's spelled), who are a too-perfect couple and never fight. Ann and Alan achieved a balance that Sailor Moon NEVER got right before or since. But what REALLY makes them stand out is that they had secret identities too. They got to interact with the untransformed scouts during school and other stuff. That was SO cool! I wish Ann and Alan would stick for longer. Hell, I wish ALL villains would do this.

I never liked DiC's dub, but I have to admit that Tony Daniels nailed as Wiseman. Steve Kramer was OK, but IMO he had only one remarkable line: "A flower, no matter how beautiful, withers in the course of time". I really love his tone and accent in this scene. He looked like a British Lord. However, Tony Daniels had a lot of many remarkable lines: "He left you...FOR US!", "Remember your loneliness, your emptiness! You've born alone and you always remains alone!", "You ACTUALLY believe that you can handle the power of Dark Crystal? Meet your fate!", not to mention "the awful laugh of hers gave me a migraine"

@SuperGoku14

3 жыл бұрын

Just a minor correction: He said "Meet your fate!", not "Bite your face!"

@leandromouli

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperGoku14 that's right. My English wasn't so good when I commented the video. I only realized my error afterwards.

@victoriam.8652

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperGoku14 maybe wiseman had a very trouble past and he feels hurt, in my au, he was in love with a delicate and gentle space goddess, and later on, they had a daughter that looked like hotaru...

@redmage8719

9 ай бұрын

I actually liked DiC's dub a lot and i still like it today.

Years later, this line still makes me laugh: Wiseman: "Emerald... good riddance! That awful laugh of her's gave me a migraine!"

@Kuribohchaos8

6 жыл бұрын

I remember it like i was still 6

@JadenMoon1475

4 жыл бұрын

Her laugh bothers me too, and I remember like when I was... however old I was first hearing that line too

@alexandertran2442

3 жыл бұрын

Me too! He's definitely a bit more comedic in the DIC version

@MrMharris1990

3 жыл бұрын

Same here lol

@chronoplex89

3 жыл бұрын

His delivery was perfect. DiC wasn't the best dubbing company but actor playing Wiseman nailed it!

Eiji has this ancient sounding voice of a wise and powerful sage , but it can get really sinister when he wants to drive the wickedness of Wiseman's true colors. Hiroshi...let's face his take is that of a creepy and unnaturally high voice of a twisted old man, but at the same time that voice results in some hilarity when he goes up in pitch in scenes that should be creepy. He does redeem his role when does he takes his Death Phantom/Planet Nemesis true form, the tone gets deep and gives off an ancient eldritch being full of malice and rightful confidence in being a literal talking planet. Tony- Starts off generic, but then gets deeper in tone to give off an intimidating voice...and then his voice changes again, it sounds more like a Deception type of voice (from the Armada era and I'd swear that he actually voiced one of them) than a powerful evil advisor. Steve has the sage like voice of what you expect of a wiseman and has this grandfatherly tone that you'd naturally get drawn to like, especially since he voiced the Third Hokage, Hiruzen Sarutobi, who was very much a loving grandfather figure. But, this hides his true manipulative nature, which casually deposes of others and revels in wickedness. It's the Sailor Moon equivalent of Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious if I could make a comparison.

@vampireunicorn2271

6 жыл бұрын

100% agreed with you there.

@silentb8997

2 жыл бұрын

@@vampireunicorn2271 Unlimited Power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The wiseman is like the sailor moon equivalent of The Emperor from star wars

@drixg555

4 жыл бұрын

POWER!!! UNLIMITED POWER!!!

@silentb8997

2 жыл бұрын

@@drixg555 Your Skills are No Match for The Power of The Dark-Side!!!!!

Another case of each voice actor doing a great job in their own right and bringing a slightly different but effective approach to the part. I like how Tony Daniels gradually becomes more distorted and sinister.

Eiji Maruyama remains the best Wiseman to me - I got chills from his performance. Not too keen on the false silly old man take that Hiroshi Iwasaki delivered, although if he dropped the "eccentric" aspect, I think he would've been great. My feelings on the English voices are kinda mixed - Tony Daniels was rather good to begin with (if he had stuck to this voice - 06:14 - 06:24 - for the duration of the series, he would've been perfect to me), until his voice became too heavy with vocal effects in the later episodes and it didn't help that he got a bit too shouty either. On the other hand, Steve Kramer did a great job nailing Wiseman's character although his voice should've been a lot creepier.

I like Wiseman/Doom Phantom's DiC voice (towards the end of R) the best.

@JadenMoon1475

4 жыл бұрын

@Otobi: I was just going to say that!

@kuramayoko23

3 жыл бұрын

That voice was perfect! The DiC dub did a lot of things wrong but that was NOT one of them. The original soundtrack was also great too but his voice with whatever distortion they did was and continues to be one of the creepiest voices for a character I've ever heard.

@nightmrfuel8217

3 жыл бұрын

@@JadenMoon1475 Jedite got his revenge for being the first commander eliminated and got the last laugh being the final baddie of the season

I keep surprising myself because I think I like the Dic actors the most. The script isn't as good and sometimes they are over the top, but they put so much emotion in. I like Steve's voice, but Tony's is so memorable. When I think of Wiseman in English I always hear him.

@johnwardjr3001

2 жыл бұрын

Toby Daniels should get an excellent review for being The doom phantom.

@raraszek

Жыл бұрын

Same

I like both Tony Daniels and Steve Kramer.

Tony Daniels is my godfather. He would certainly get an ego boost reading this comment section!!

@nightmrfuel8217

3 жыл бұрын

well he scared the crap out me as a kid..I wonder how felt about voicing this role

@MaryAX

3 жыл бұрын

He was iconic! The best English Wiseman in my view.

@BokanProductions

Жыл бұрын

Really?

The original Seiyu for Doom phantom was more menacing and sinister than the new one in Crystal.

Something I really liked about Steve Kramer's performance as Wiseman was how it seemed to harken back to those over-the-top villains from classic cinema

Rest in peace. Eiji Maruyama. I cast my vote already~

20 years later DiC voice toward the end of the serie is still awesome

@Blossom44100

6 жыл бұрын

TAMEREOPIRE Agreed ;) but ViZ just says 22 YEARS OF DIC'S MAGIC DESTROYED :(

Lol I love the DIC dub

Hey! Thank you so much for making and uploading these videos :) much appreciated! Hope you have a great day!

Maruyama sounds so evil I LOVE it! He just has that perfect, classic, strong, sinister tone. Plus you get a hint of him taking pleasure in his evil actions while being reserved enough to not let on that he's pulling Demande's puppet strings. Iwasaki sounds like a silly old man, I get what they were going for to have him play the fool to downplay his vileness... but I prefer the default voice being wise and sinister.

Wiseman Voice actors ranked from oldest to youngest 1. Eiji Maruyama (Original)(1930-2015) RIP 2. Steve Kramer (Viz)(1950-) 3. Hiroshi Iwasaki (Crystal)(1953-) 4. Tony Daniels (DiC)(1963-)

4:51-4:59 "YOU QUESTION THE WORDS OF THE MIGHTY JIMMY?!"

Whenever I hear Viz's Wiseman voice, all I hear is the Third Hokage.

Wise man:"What?!?! This can't be happening!!! No ever as a strong as doom phant--"

Steve Kramer

Not only is Wiseman my favorite Sailor Moon Villain he is next to Joker the gvoat (greatest villain of all time) Shao Khan and Darkseid he is my favorite villain because he's a villains villain I miss Death Phantom sobs.

Steve Kramer is pretty cool though I like his voice. A little Tony Jay-sounding, but cool

“Mamoru and Chibiusa are in love!” Mommy! I need a bucket!

Tony Daniels and Eiji Maruyama are the best.

I think I like Eji Maruyama's the best out of the Japanese voices, he sounds at least intimidating. Tony Daniels is okay sounding. He reminds me of Bill Cipher and the direction is a little too corny. I always imagined Wiseman as having a pretty threatening voice, like maybe Travis Willingham

So Tony altered his voice to not sound originally the same? Sounds like 2 different voice actors from realizing Serena's NQS to his convo with Emerald.

@ShadowSonic2

Жыл бұрын

There was a big gap between the first part of Sailor Moon R and the rest of it when it came to dubbing, "The Lost Episodes". Daniels may have just forgotten how he voiced him before and tried something different, or the Voice Director wanted him to try something new.

He looks VERY creepy in Sailor Moon Crystal!

Fun Fact: Eiji Maruyama was the voice of Daizyuzin in Kyōryū Sentai Zyuranger, Kaburagi in Pokemon, Eda in Eden of the East, and King Hyrule/The King of Red Dragons in The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker.

@alexanderwillick4521

4 жыл бұрын

You mean the original Megazord

I love Steve Kramer's performance

@dwainsimmons3447

Жыл бұрын

Me too

In a potential Kingdom Hearts boss fight... Death Phantom should say "You may have been able to restore Chibi-Usa, but even without Black Lady, I've still got more than enough Dark Power to vaporize you ALL!"

I always thought Tony Daniels was really good, though listening to it here... I notice the the over-reliance on the voice effects and wonder if it would be as good without them. Steve Kramer on the otherhand sounds a bit young but I love his gravely tone and it has a lot in common with Maruyama's sinister inflections. I love it! I like Kramer's voice because it's sinister... yet kind of soothing. It fits for Wiseman since he's evil but a master at makingvulnerable people believe what he wants them to.

This is the Vol.3 in Sailor Moon at the end he said: “I’m someone who truly needs you come join me” Black Lady for Happy Deathday

Eiji Maruyama and Tony Daniels, also Steve Kramer.

I like all of them of the first anime.

Metalia, Wiseman/Death Phantom, Pharaoh 90, Queen Nehelenia all incarnations of Chaos (3 of them are evil energy masses). While we are on this subject I wonder who will voice Chaos also Sailor Chaos in Sailor Moon Cosmos movie?🤔 will they use same voice actors who voiced Metalia, Death Phantom/Wiseman and Pharaoh 90 for Chaos? I hope not I hope Chaos will have new voice actor since Chaos is very powerful enemy in Sailor Moon universe.

I AGREE 7:14"

Dude, hands down Hiroshi Iwasaki from Crystal... THE BEST! He really taps into the maniacal side of Wiseman

The Wiseman/Doom Phantom is the reason why I like Sailor Moon i love the Dic over the Viz and plus i can lip sync all the words to the Dic version of the wiseman.

That guy is a tough cookie

Death Phantom's voice is better in the DiC dub than in the ViZ dub

Valkorion: I am the Immortal Emperor! You can not defeat me.

Eiji and Tony sounds like Maimaigoon from Kirby

@07:16-08:49 Okay, seriously. The DiC version of Wiseman's character should've been in a much better show than this old English dub of Sailor Moon. Because he is just too damn good of a villain for our main "heroes" to deal with. That and he clearly is one of those characters who just doesn't give a damn!!! 😎

Steve Kramer fits wiseman’s personality well.

@ShadowSonic2

Жыл бұрын

It's just too bad he had such boring lines.

@dwainsimmons3447

Жыл бұрын

@@ShadowSonic2 the Viz lines are not boring! They’re awesome.

@ShadowSonic2

Жыл бұрын

@@dwainsimmons3447 They're boring. The problem with direct translation is that sometimes it results in REALLY awkward stilted dialog. Tony Daniels had a terrible script and made it work with how much effort he put into the rewritten dialog.

@dwainsimmons3447

Жыл бұрын

@@ShadowSonic2 but at the same time, the script in the old dub made it feel more cartoony.

@ShadowSonic2

Жыл бұрын

@@dwainsimmons3447 Yes, but the dialog didn't sound stilted and awkward and the actors actually acted.

I loved Hiroshi as Death Phantom

3:19 r-RAABII-to!!!!😂😂😂

Tony Daniels had a terrible script to work with but man he was awesome

@dwainsimmons3447

Жыл бұрын

And terrible direction

@decimatorentertainmentstud8523

Жыл бұрын

@@dwainsimmons3447 that too

When you a School Starts…

Anyone know the theme that comes on at around 7:00 when Wiseman is talking to Emerald? I know it's part of the DIC dub, but can't find it anywhere. :(

🤔9:07 TRUE"

Obviously, the original Japanese voiceover is the best, but on our side of the pond, Steve Kramer is the ONLY one who comes second. He's like an American Emperor Palpatine. Lol.

@silentb8997

2 жыл бұрын

Great Star Wars Reference!!!!!

This is how I imagine 0/02 from Kirby sounding.

Immortal…

The Third Hokage is Wiseman???!

@alexanderwillick4521

4 жыл бұрын

Actually my Power Ranger sense says that this is actually Darkonda

Jacquio

8:50 Steve Kramer fits

Aftermath

I’m pretty sure Tony Daniels only voiced him in the first half of R. The “computerized” voice in the second half (which was dubbed a few years afterwards) sounds nothing like him to me.

@incrediblefunk7220

4 жыл бұрын

No, it was still him. He just changed his vocal characterization thrice.

Tony daniels tried his best

@decimatorentertainmentstud8523

4 жыл бұрын

@FUCK GOD he had a bad script

@ShadowSonic2

Жыл бұрын

@@decimatorentertainmentstud8523 It wasn't as boring as the Viz script was.

Hiroshi Iwasaki had Fun😅

@07:16-07:37 Okay, seriously DiC...you should have made the villains from Sailor Moon be more like Wiseman in this scene, right there. That showed that you were not afraid to have any balls and make the villains be taken very seriously as an absolute threat to our heroes as opposed to what you were trying to write them out as in your version of the old English dub back then. I mean, really. If we had more villains who were written to be unsympathetic, heartless bastards like Wiseman in this scene and Crimson Reubeus. We would've definitely taken the show more seriously back then.

@05:50-06:23 Woah!!! Did Wiseman suddenly hit puberty at this split second?!

@JulianTruant

6 жыл бұрын

Neo-Xgray87 the thing is, there was many episodes between wiseman's first appearance and second appearance, plus his second appearance was part of the "lost episodes" a.k.a the last 17 eps of season 2 that aired a year after the fact. For whatever reason they started giving wiseman's voice some audio effect that they didn't give him on his first episode.

11:00 Well in that case... DIE!

And now Nothin.....NOTHING CAN STOP MEEEE!!!

japanese 10 eng 3

Hiroshi Iwaski (SMC Wiseman) is Akaoni from Smile Precure FYI. :)

@BagOfMagicFood

6 жыл бұрын

Oh! And Chibi-Moon was Cure Happy?!

4:28 - 4:34😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Iwasaka didn't nail Death Phantom character in any thing, in the other side Maruyama did it at the perfetion. They should hier him for Crystal or someone that had a similar voice.

Tony's was PERFECT!

I am sorry. But Wiseman's character in the 90's anime is a fucking idiot in the later episodes. He had so much potential and the writers completely wasted his character by making him into a James Bond villain. I mean in the manga and the Crystal version he's not nearly as stupid as he is the later episodes of season two in the 90's anime.

I hate the way Hiroshi Iwasaki voices Wiseman. He sometimes tones his voice to a falsetto tone and it doesn't work well. Eji Maruyama did a much better job. For the ENG voices, it's hard to decide. Tony Daniels did a booming voice that is a lot like what Darth Vader would sound like when angry IMO and it sounds pretty menacing. Steve Kramer did a great job following the original and like the original JP, it sounds really good.

I think you should do MIka as well as for this episode Tony Daniels Steve Kramer and Eji Maruyama were awesome wiseman Hiroshi was kinda annoying he could of been better also you can do the girl from the talent show episode cant think of her name and I just watched the episode 2 nights ago but I think you should also do a remake of darian/mamaro without the background music like your doing with rini/chibi-usa

I heard Hiroshi has dubbed C-3PO from Star Wars.

@jacefiore6203

5 жыл бұрын

Can you stop saying their Sailor Moon Crystal voices' first names please?

@skelemama

14 күн бұрын

@@jacefiore6203 ???? Why?

Wow, I never knew Jadeite voiced The Wiseman. Crazy! I prefer his version. Kramer sounded like a freaking narrator!

@TwilightLink77

8 жыл бұрын

There were theories in the original DiC dub that Wiseman is Jadeite because they share the same voice actor.

@allysaber949

7 жыл бұрын

it makes sense though

@hkazu63

7 жыл бұрын

TwilightLink77 that sounds kinda lame to me. I don't really see the appeal of making a subordinate from a previous series into the next big enemy, plus all of the final enemies should be incarnations of Chaos, as the true malevolent force behind the events, so the idea seems a break from the narrative of the show. Then again, DiC always felt pretty separate from the show's actual storyline to me when I rewatched it a few years back.

@hkazu63

7 жыл бұрын

Your Bro Tai I always took Wiseman, Metalia and Pharaoh 90 to be essentially constructs on chaos, and that that was why they were abnormal, like how Metalia was a formless swirl of energy and Wiseman was just a cloak over seemingly nothing, while Pharaoh 90 was like a planet of pure malevolence. I think Nehellenia was the poorest attempt as it tried to humanise chaos. I felt there were implications in the first 3 that they were linked by their own non-humanity, because they were in stark contrast to their humanoid subordinates.

Wiseman I think ist a Gemini

I like Mika Kayama/Mika Cassidy. She cool and she's Shingo close friend/crush.😉

It’s defiantly the third Hokage!

丸山さんが神

The Dic dub fits the look a lot more. Steve's voice wasn't deep or old enough in my opinion.

Uhhh

As a fan of the Viz dub, I have to say I actually prefer the DiC voice. It's still decrepit, but also intimidating and throaty.

@ShadowSonic2

Жыл бұрын

The Viz dub had this strange issue, good actors but a lot of the time they just sounded like they were reading lines instead of acting. The old dub, even if the voices didn't fit and lines weren't right, had actors ACTING.

@Doomshroom8

Жыл бұрын

@@ShadowSonic2 Gonna have to disagree with that. I'm not too terribly interested in elaborating but the main actors in Viz go above and beyond imo

@ShadowSonic2

Жыл бұрын

@@Doomshroom8 Maybe it's just some of the other ones then, like Sailor Saturn. I hated that she had the right voice but stilted acting, while the Cloverway one had a voice that didn't really fit but was acted well.

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Damn the dic dub is garbage! And changing what death phantom says so much augh!

@decimatorentertainmentstud8523

4 жыл бұрын

You can thank the bad writing for that

@kuramayoko23

2 жыл бұрын

The bad writing is what made it bad. Wiseman's voice distortion however was something I wish Viz tried a little harder to get across that this guy meant business. I love Steve's work, but they could have made it sound more demonic. Like how the Nine Tails in the Naruto dub sounded.

Viz Sailor Moon is so darn forgettable lol. DiC is legend

@dwainsimmons3447

2 жыл бұрын

But hardcore fans think that the DIC dub is forgettable and the Viz dub is legendary.

@ryanwitwickifaddegon4291

2 жыл бұрын

@@dwainsimmons3447 Hardcore fans started with DiC, as no way to watch Viz or Japanese in the 90s. 😂

@dwainsimmons3447

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanwitwickifaddegon4291 right

@dwainsimmons3447

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanwitwickifaddegon4291 just like TCPI Pokémon is so forgettable and hardcore fans started and watched the 4kids dub of Pokémon.