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4:38 this is not true actually. black can move bishop to capture pawn on e5. if white uses the bishop on h6 to take the rook on f8, then black moves bishop from e5 to f4 winning whites queen....you absolutely have to mention such a strong counter to be aware of

@evaldasevaldas1234

Жыл бұрын

great remark indeed, bishop e5 and f4 and black winning !!

@valentinoforever

Жыл бұрын

as white, you loose a tempo, but for sure you have to Nf3 before move the bishop

@valentinoforever

Жыл бұрын

but most of players doesn't want to move their bishop since they going to loose their rook

@Nomanstran

Жыл бұрын

What about if they go d5 and thereafter get the standard KID set up?

@npip99

Жыл бұрын

Consider finding the move to simply be a challenge for the reader :) So, Bxe5. You want to take the rook, but you can't because the bishop wins the queen. Why can't the queen just take the bishop? Because the Knight is supporting it. Simple, in response to Bxe5, play g4 to chase off the knight. After Nhf6, you can safely take the rook. Black can try Ng7, but it's basically gg if black undevelops his knight like that. Just pawn storm and blow up the kingside. Remember, against the KID, your h pawn is exactly 2 moves away from cracking the king open like an egg. There are gonna be 50 different variations and ways black can try to defend, it's impossible to explain each and every one. But, the goal is h4 / h5 / f4 in some order, move your pieces towards the enemy king, and make sure to keep queens on the board. After 9... Bxe5 10. g4, it should be easily winning for white. I hope that helps! ~ Video should help facilitate those ideas. If you're sitting in a game thinking, "Darn, the knight holds his bishop on f4, skewering my queen. This is a bad situation", consider 4:47. Or, if you're sitting thinking, "The Knight is passive and pinned on g7. How do I abuse that?", consider 3:11 For reference, after 9... Bxe5, there are only 102 games in the lichess database with that position. And I imagine it was still ~100 when this video game out, so Bxe5 is a position that's basically never been played since this video came out. So, I wouldn't fault a 13min video, or say "you absolutely have to mention XYZ", for a position that's been played basically 0 times since the video came out. Either way, you're gonna have to analyze it yourself when the time comes to play the position.

This is fantastic. As a new chess player I've been so frustrated when facing the kings Indian and the large majority of my losses are vs the kings Indian. This gives me hope! Thank you so much!

Fantastic video btw. I’ve crushed 2 kings Indians this week because of it. Very easy to learn if you play the London. And you’re absolutely right, KI/Pirc players make their opening moves automatically so often.

@filthyfrank.5

3 ай бұрын

Anybody 1300 and below just plays automatically it seems

I've really enjoyed being a 1.d4 player so far in my time learning chess. I find the London and Queen's Gambit openings to be great fun.

Just what I needed. Well explained. Thanks!

► Chapters 00:00 Winning Chess Opening for White After 1.d4 00:12 London System vs King's Indian Defense Setup 01:29 Switching White's plan with 3.Nc3 03:00 Simple & Powerful Kingside Attack 05:45 Proof: Black loses in most played moves 07:33 If Black plays Nc6 instead of Nbd7 08:45 Works also with 1.e4 against Pirc Defense 09:51 If Black tries to attack on the queenside 12:29 Backup attacking idea for White

Best gems around. You really do find some teasure!

I love your teaching. You are so prepared, so ingenuous, so enlightening; I hope you the best, too.

@GMIgorSmirnov

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Short, clear, useful. Well done!

@GMIgorSmirnov

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

i play the London and this is another good vid by Igor...luv your videos!!

Crushing such an awesome defense with the power of the so-called London system is just amazing. Thanks GM Igor. Always loved your content

Amazing video Sir 👍🏽👍🏽

Enjoyed this video. Instructive

Valuable information. Thanks

Great video! I appreciate you showing the ideas and not just the moves. Stockfish is good at recommending moves but horrible about giving ideas. One thing I find is that black plays d5 a lot against 3. Nc3. I see that that weakens the e5 square and makes Black's e5 push difficult, but I'd still enjoy a video on this line.

Do you have a video covering the London versus Grunfeld (1 d4 Nf6 2 Bf4 g6 3 Nc3)? Thanks in advance.

I lost four rapid games using the London system vs King's Indian yesterday so googling and finding this was a huge lifesaver! Thank you!

Wow! I'm really happy that I saw this video. I'm a die hard KID player and I have lost my share of games in this set up with Bf4. Seems like I'm going to have to get used to changing my approach to this Bf4 idea. Thanks for the video! Cheers!

Thanks for all the content!

@GMIgorSmirnov

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Hey Igor, do you have also a video about to fight agaist the czech variation of the pirc defence? similar to this kings indian style I see more and more often black playing c6 and then involving the queen over Qa5 or Qc7... so the pin on the d-file won't work, do you think your attack would work anyways?

This is awesome! I know if the first few moves but I always rushed to trade bishops! More I know to let it sit having their bishop so I can push pawns to pressure their Knight

After Bh6, the black Bishop isn't actually pinned to the Rook, because Bxe5, if Bxf1, then Bf4 is protected by the Knight on h5 and the Queen is pinned. So you lose a pawn and a Queen for the Rook.

@fugglesme4186

2 жыл бұрын

True. But after 10. h4 Bd6 11. g4 Nhf6 12. h5 white is winning. +1.8 stockfish

@MrEricLenser

Жыл бұрын

@@fugglesme4186 Why would black play Bd6 instead of capturing queen Bxd2...

@fugglesme4186

Жыл бұрын

@@MrEricLenser Its not obvious what the position is when I started at 10. h4. Garbarrage had proposed 9. Bh6 Bxe5 10. Bxf8 Bf4. But white does not have to take the rook on f8. I was saying instead of taking the rook on move 10. White would play the line I have above. 10. h4 then blacks best move is Bd6. The black bishop is not on f4 in this line.

@MyBiPolarBearMax

Жыл бұрын

If bxe5 just take the knight with the pawn gxh5 first and black is still lost right?

@Malefic_Roar

Жыл бұрын

​@@MyBiPolarBearMaxknight to h5 then after opponent play something bishop take e5 then enemy take the rook then bxf4 pinning the queen to the king

This is the best chess youtube channel. Always delivers!

@GMIgorSmirnov

2 жыл бұрын

Wow! thanks

I'm a e4 player & never thought I'd play the London system, now I do, the jabava against the piric & I still get to start with e4, having my cake 🍰 & eating it, thanks dude, I'm getting massive benefit from your vids, your Budapest gambit video was awesome as well 🤙🤙

12:12 What do you do if they don’t recapture but instead play Rh8? I can’t figure out a winning sequence from there.

Thank you 🙏🏻

Depends on the elo, at one point black will start always playing d5 and get an equal position right away.

The best thing about this video is the sleeping cat at the back.

Fantastic video...mantapppp

Loved it

One of the best video I've ever seen

awesome breakdown! I GOTTA TRY THIS!

@GMIgorSmirnov

Жыл бұрын

Go for it!

I love your videos!!!!

How do you proceed if opponent plays ph6 after your qd2? That move seems to counter the whole idea

Great video. One issue I find with Bf4 though is that it can't be transposed into from the Modern (1. e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 3. Nc3 d6) without giving up objective evaluation (4. Bf4 isn't in the top 10 in s16, and transpositions from moves like f3 don't work). I prefer to be able to transpose into the same setup against both the Pirc and Modern as it means less theory for me to learn and memorize.

How to respond to black, if instead of a pawn on d6 he moves the pawn on d5? Thank you.

Thanks for uploading this, tip will be noted

@GMIgorSmirnov

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

All time favorite

What to do if in the opening, black plays pawn to d5 instead of d6?

This is the Jobava London, can advise this to anyone. GM Simon Williams has a great course on it on Chessable..

It transposes into the Jobava-Rapport-London.

Thank you!

@GMIgorSmirnov

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it.

as a d4 player i really hated the kid i bought two courses for d4 repertoire and two jobava london all from great gms but always struggled against kid…after watching this short video i literally stopped losing and now i look forward to facing it thanks so much …

at 4:45 stockfish simply captures the pawn on e5 with bishop and if you try to capture the rook with your bishop he then pins your queen to your king with his bishop. youre gonna lose a queen in this line

❤ So awesome! :D

4:50 just capture free pawn with black bishop then retreat again then make better moves in the future!

12:21 what if they actually took with the f pawn

@BoomaOhDet

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

I'm 1670, I was playing someone who's 2100, I knew he liked the KID, so I took these themes on board. I was +0.9 coming out of the opening. But miscalculated needed to protect a pawn and struggled to push h4-h5 in the middle game. I lost, but chatting after he said I had him worried. So I'll be checking out your other videos.

GM Igor Smirnov gave me the best advice in chess. 'How can I attack?' 'Always push forward'. 'Offence is the best defence'. I'm still grinding on this fuel ⛽

around 1400, I always see d5 instead of d6, and while the engine shows variations, it's incredibly hard to continue from here imo. after long castle, black seem to have a lot easier attacking your king, than you do.

After 6. O-O-O, what's to stop Black from playing 6. ... Bh8 or 6. Re8? Either move would seem to render Bh6 ineffective, since Black can avoid exchanging off the bishop. White can avoid this, though, by playing 6. Bh6 immediately, so why not do that? Same goes for a lot of similar positions arising from various openings (not only the KID and Pirc/Modern but also the Sicilian).

@MariaBelenSeyssInquart

6 ай бұрын

Black DOES NOT castle short in any of these lines. When I see what White is doing, I castle long. White still has the small edge of the opening anyway but is not going to get mated. Jobava players have to learn the Pirc to play a good Pirc when black goes d6, e5. I play Pirc myself. Only men play Jobava, I have not seen any other women playing it (except E. Pahtz and Claudia Amura)

@ 5:01 instead of e6 what if black plays bishop x b5..If white replies Bishop x f8...Black plays Bishop f4 pinning queen to king and white queen is gone..

The position at 4:56 doesn't look scary at all tbh. White has a pawn hanging on e5. Black should move pawn b6, to prepare fianchetto of the other bishop. Let white trade the g7 bishop and safely recapture with the king. Then black bishop to b7. The queen is no longer hanging (because its defended by both rooks) so you pick up the hanging pawn with your knight, and you threaten devastation on h1 if white is silly enough to push the g pawn. All of those are natural moves and not obscure to find. What am I missing here?

Historically accurate

I love how "most people wont play this move" is only applicable on elo 1k+, on elo 800s, most people play that move lol

Know when to change when white changes black is also allowed to change.

Bro first game I played after watching this I got the exact position you showed and he resigned before I could play check mate 😂😂😭 can't belive how well this just worked lmao

Black DOES NOT castle short in any of these lines. When I see what White is doing, I castle long. White still has the small edge of the opening anyway but is not going to get mated. Jobava players have to learn the Pirc to play a good Pirc when black goes d6, e5. I play Pirc myself. Only men play Jobava, I have not seen any other women playing it (except E. Pahtz and Claudia Amura)

How can i use this opening if i start with 1. Nf3? It is my biggest dilemma in all the chess courses i saw against KID

Thats cool but you should tell people what to do if black doesn't castle and instead plays c6 starting an early attack on the white queenside. This is an easy opening for booked up KID and pirc players to at least equalize.

How to London system' vs grunfell defense

I've had a lot of success with this opening! But sometimes they start attacking me faster than I can attack them

12.16 and what about fg instead hg,the position is unclear

Wonderful 👏 👍 👏

@GMIgorSmirnov

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

I play 1. Nc3! and iff Black plays 1. ...Nf6 or g6, they should know the Pirc because that's what we're playing :-) i play the 150 attack but this line looks good because it's very possible with 1. Nc3 tranposing so easily to Pirc, that Black might not know to avoid this trap.

Thanks for the great tips Igor!! Is there some easy system for black against english opening?

@GMIgorSmirnov

2 жыл бұрын

Hey! Jamal, thanks for the suggestion. We have not made a video about Black's perspective for the English. We will consider it for future videos.

@jamalchess9681

2 жыл бұрын

@@GMIgorSmirnov thank you so much Igor for your help support and time 🌹🌹

Watching this video made me realize I was playing into this as black. King's Indian is my standard response to queen's pawn openings. I'll need to find a better response...

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Do you have a reccomendation for the Colle system against KID? I'd like to play this setup but black doesn't have to play KID against 2. Bf4 and then it's not the Colle but the London.

@yzfool6639

2 жыл бұрын

Black doesn't have to play KID against 2. Nf3 either, so you would have to play 2 Nc3 against 1...Nf6 in order to transpose.

@ethansmusic9898

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not quote sure what you are talking about. 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5 is just a normal Colle. I don't have any issues playing that. But when black goes 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 I don't think 3.Nc3 is good because of 3. ...d5 and I won't be able to play e4 anytime soon.

Lets go👊❤

@GMIgorSmirnov

Ай бұрын

❤

What if I start London with knight gf3

Of course, it is rather silly to make moves without taking into consideration what your opponent is doing. So Black should get into trouble. But Bh6 seems to be too brave. Rook is cheaper than Queen, so B:e5 is possible (B:f8 - Bf4). Of course, even after loosing the central pawn White has good chances for attack, but Black has compensation

@yzfool6639

2 жыл бұрын

Sound attack beat defense at all but the highest levels. Unsound attacks often win against players under 2500. Black has no "compensation" other than a higher rating for positions where only one side is attacking. The low-rated defender will hardly beat you with positional moves or endgame technique anyway, especially when both players are amateurs.

@Embers-qu8vg

5 ай бұрын

Be5 then g4 chase the knight away to prevent the skewer.

Just crushed my friend who always wins when playing using the kings Indian. Now he officially hates me😂😂

So do I now abandon my kings indian / pirc openings 😮😢

I play in the 1800-1900 range and I come across people playing this opening as white against my KID. I was so frustrated by losing to this every single time that I went and looked it up online and arrived here. I still have no idea how like 80% of players seem to know this opening. Where are they learning it from? Are they just blindly queenside castling or is it actually memorized from somewhere?

@user-fu1tx6zd6e

5 ай бұрын

Gothamchess London video

@PerfectAimPoseidon

2 ай бұрын

I know I am necroing a year old comment but why not just go d5 as soon as you see white go Nc3? He doesn't address what to do in this video if black plays that he just says "people don't play that". Full disclosure I am not 18-1900 so if you have genuine advice for how white can continue this attack after that move I would love to know. It looks like that move just forces white to continue with the normal London setup.

@PiernikPiernikowaty

Күн бұрын

Just play 5. c6 instead of 5. O-O which is inaccuracy. Then you try to launch queenside attack. I remember I won a game with black pieces when somebody tried this setup in the video against me.

I play the Black Lion against the London.

Bullet and blitz games shouldn't be part of statistics. Just my opinion.

The first comment is spot on as the white bishop isn’t really pinned😅

NOOO!!! Kings Indian is the opening I JUST learned as a beginner..... And now it is destoryedd.... 😭 So do I learn the London system now?

I kept losing to the KIA but with this video i now have a higher win rate against the Kings Indian Defence

Watching this cause I always play kings Indian😂

hehehe ha, this works I can confirm. 😜

Sheesh

You should call it the jobava London... Coz that's what it seems like

@whoisbhauji

2 жыл бұрын

Or 150 attack

There is such a better kings Indian defense killer than this

Grandmaster Smirnov confuses the King's Indian Defence with the Pirc Defence?! Let me explain to him that the King's Indian Defence can only arise if White plays c2-c4 :-)

@thunderstrikebs5556

Ай бұрын

King's indian is against d4. Pirc is against e4