Amber made a really good point in a "the jury speaks" video. She said she felt like Natalie was the winner of the edge, but Tony was the winner or survivor. I agree with this statement 100%, and I really respect Amber for making that distinction.

@MP-ef9yo

4 жыл бұрын

but if Rob won that challenge she wouldve voted for him. Wouldve been interesting to see how she justified that.

@zorozgray7316

4 жыл бұрын

@@MP-ef9yo she would have no reason to justify it, Rob is literally her husband and father of her children

@Swordifsh1

4 жыл бұрын

@@MP-ef9yo i've never been a rob fan but i do think he played a pretty decent game this time. not to mention at blood vs water it was just expected you'll vote for your loved one.

@chrisdvine

4 жыл бұрын

@@MP-ef9yo She would have justified it that she is obviously going to vote for her husband to win 2 million dollars. What are you even saying?

Even if he was asked, Tony doesn't have the ego to claim he's the GOAT. More reason why he's the GOAT

@MP-ef9yo

4 жыл бұрын

thats why he has to speak llama to you "BLOOOOUUUGH"

@christenshirt6242

4 жыл бұрын

@@MP-ef9yo this comment right here ⬆️, pure gold 😂

The problem I have with the advantages in the return challenge is that not everyone had a chance to gain the advantages. For example, Jeremy and Nick lasted a significant amount of time in the game and had no chance to gain the tokens, but the first boot Natalie had 33 days to gain 14 tokens. It's almost like getting voted out after lasting much longer in the game causes you to have a disadvantage when it comes to returning.

@ColbyBumington

4 жыл бұрын

19 tokens man haha good point

@bibhashthapa5562

4 жыл бұрын

I think to solve that, they should've madr a rule of stop bequeathing the fire tokens (when voted out) after a certain amount of people were left. I think this would've been more fair for the late booteers who were unable to participate in any challenges in the edge.

@clay7212

4 жыл бұрын

But I mean people like boston Rob making comments repeatedly about how natalie being first out gave her such an advantage...his wife was there 23 hours later and didn't earn herself one single token for 39 days. Rob didn't get there but a week max after her and didn't have anything to show for it at the end. People like Jeremy tho and Nick, they're the ones who just didn't have time or opportunity to earn them because of the timing of their eliminations which does really blow

@ask4theupgrade359

4 жыл бұрын

The EOE has some kinks to work out like perhaps players voted out of the game, should be allowed to keep their Fire tokens with them, rather than bequeath them to players still in the game. However, Natalie spending 33 days on EOE and earning 14 fire tokens, should NOT be discounted or seen as such a huge Advantage, because she arrived there first, when players that arrived shortly after her: - Amber had 32 days to earn fire tokens (zero) - Dani had 31 days to earn fire tokens (zero) - as did all the other 11 returnee players that earned Fire tokens like Perv, Boston Rob, Wendell, Tyson, Yul, Sophie, - None were even close to earning 14 tokens

@Genkku

4 жыл бұрын

@@clay7212 Exactly. What if Rob got voted out last and Amber gave him 10 tokens instantly? People would be furious.

Receiving no votes is impressive, to just shrug that off is dumbfounding. We are talking about a mastermind and big threat never having one vote against him. That's not an accident and shows how much control over the game that Tony had.

@annamarie2849

4 жыл бұрын

It shows how Tony is was socially masterful. He was able to gain Jeremy’s trust. And Tony won because he changed his game play. In the beginning he did not look for idols during the daytime, he made social connections so he knew how to work with them. Also the downside of Jeremy’s game was he was so stuck on how he won the first time with the meat shield. I just did not see him looking for cracks when he was on the bottom and being targeted.

@banethor5903

4 жыл бұрын

100%. Especially in Tony's position, to go on an immunity winstreak and be such a threatening player for the title and STILL not get a vote is insane. Totally different story if you were trying to be brought along as a goat. Masterful play through and through.

@josepheskew4392

4 жыл бұрын

He was nominated for fire making. In my book, that’s a vote against you.

@kcpiranha58

4 жыл бұрын

@@josepheskew4392actually its not. I cannsee why you'd think that but a vote on parchment is a vote. Fire making is a challenge. The guy that won the first edge of extinction season decided to go to fire, does that mean he voted for himself? Tony played a perfect game in my opinion.

@Dimens1oner

4 жыл бұрын

@@kcpiranha58 not perfect but really good

I vehemently disagree with you Rich. For Tony to be considered the top dog and yet people still didn't vote him is absolutely insane. Unfathomable, he got rid of his threats, socialized with his allies, and intimidated the "hyenas" in order to not to get 1 vote until the end when they voted for him.

@josepheskew4392

4 жыл бұрын

I count final 4 tribal as a vote against him.

The thing with the advantages on EoE is that Natalie has an advantage at getting advantages because she was there for so long because she was voted off first. So she was rewarded by being voted out before the other people. That's the biggest thing I don't like.

@clay7212

4 жыл бұрын

That does hold truth, however it speaks to Natalie's work ethic that people like Amber who got there 23 hours after Nat, and Boston Rob only 6-7 days after day 1 on the edge still weren't able to earn any tokens to gain them advantages in the final challenge, Amber not a single token the whole time despite being there day 2. However, I do think people like Jeremy simply didn't have enough time to earn them as others which really blows

@Benzo503

4 жыл бұрын

Clay Hartsock we can’t just ignore the obvious physical and age difference between Natalie and the players who got to EoE around the same time right?

@ruthmanuel1516

4 жыл бұрын

I don’t believe that was an advantage for Natalie...because everyone that was on the edge with her had the same opportunity to earn those fire tokens...except for those that came much later...otherwise, they had the same clues as her and the same opportunity to find them...,she fought hard for every token she earned...that says a lot about her character and how badly she wanted to get back in the game.

@WestonEvans

4 жыл бұрын

Ruth Manuel the majority of those challenges had one thing in common: knowledge, geographical or otherwise, of the Edge.

@annacleverley307

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah but she went a long longer without food and comforts than anyone else. Others voted out soon after her didn't get even close the same number of tokens, so I don't think your argument holds up

I despise Edge Of Extinction.

@LanceVanceDance214

4 жыл бұрын

Me too. I think the season will be more exciting if theres no EOE. More (screen)time for strategy and camp scenes.

@SouthernSkeptic

4 жыл бұрын

Lance, I will refuse to watch another season of EOE.

@MP-ef9yo

4 жыл бұрын

I think EoE should be reserved for all-returning player seasons. In season 38, when Chris came back and won it was like "Wait who is this guy?" but I really enjoyed it this season to see everyone we know and love continue to compete

@SouthernSkeptic

4 жыл бұрын

@@MP-ef9yo why would you want to ruin another great cast with eoe? I wont watch another season of eoe. No chance. Done.

@MP-ef9yo

4 жыл бұрын

@@SouthernSkeptic Bc every survivor fan loves at least a handful of those people and it would be sad to only see them for 1 or 2 episodes. With new players, hell no! You have to earn your respect for you get a second chance on EoE

The inherent problem with EoE in my eyes, is that what Jeff calls the outlast. In recent years, at FTC, Jeff always mentions the outlast portion and the final 3 putting the right people on the jury to vote for them. This season in EoE, Natalie only actually voted out 2 people. Denise and Ben. That’s the biggest problem in my eyes because someone voted out day 1 to come back and vote out 2 people didn’t burn nearly any bridges with the jury as someone like Tony. I’m really glad tony did pull out the 12 votes and the win. He deserved it! Natalie is also a beast, it’s crazy.

I understand Ben. He ran out of gas emotionally. He cracked. Tears were real. He wanted out of the game. His self respect at that point was greater than the 2 million bucks. The game weighs on people more at different times. Probst is a great host. I like him as a host, but he comes across as a smug, pompous, ass. Sandra is a 2x winner already. She should have stayed home. The mustard came off her hot dog in this game. Boston Rob and Amber should just stayed at home and just be a happy couple and great parents. Natalie played her ass off. She played every challenge that came her way. She played herself back into the game. She did well, but she did not make the connections to the jury that Tony did. Congrats Tony on a game well played.

@bobbydugganiii4656

4 жыл бұрын

Ben is a puss

@B-ch6uk

4 жыл бұрын

He knew he didn't have a chance of winning also he didn't like how he played the first time.

@santanaet

4 жыл бұрын

@@bobbydugganiii4656 That is a true statement on the surface. There is a lot of phases to the game. That is why we watch survivor.

@holyth9310

4 жыл бұрын

@PorkChop Chris there was no way she could get Tony gone. Tony was carrying 4 goats as shield.

@holyth9310

4 жыл бұрын

@PorkChop Chris and lose?

I dislike EOE. It gives you more opportunities for advantages the earlier you get voted out. The goal of the game has always been... don’t get voted out. There’s no way you should win the game after being voted out against someone who hasn’t been voted out. Getting to live and camp in misery with the jury is biggest advantage in the game. Thought It was a joke that Tony didn’t get every vote.

@sublime3stan332

4 жыл бұрын

simply put. those who didn't vote for Tony were still bitter. sore losers! 🤣

@Godwilla39

4 жыл бұрын

sublime 3stan They weren’t bitter, they were voting for the person they knew better. Tyson and Jeremy are friends with Natalie outside of the game. Ethan and Parvati never met Tony while they spent 20+ days with Natalie. Only Jeremy you could say might be bitter, but is he really not going to vote for his child’s godmother to win? I think Natalie gets Jeremy’s vote 100% of the time.

@jpbproductions3872

4 жыл бұрын

When I get to play one day, I have a strategy to do if EoE is in play. Get voted out first, work my butt off to accumulate as many fire tokens as possible on the edge of extinction, save up all my tokens for the finale’s return challenge. Win that challenge and get back in with an idol that I bought before the challenge. Save that idol for the final 5 and try to get the votes on someone else to get to the final 5, play my idol on myself getting myself to the final 4. Win immunity, get taken, or win fire to get to the final 3, then get the majority of the jurors to vote me to win through my campaigning skills.

@Godwilla39

4 жыл бұрын

JPB productions obviously it shouldn’t be a strategy, but it also shouldn’t be more beneficial to be voted out 1st than it is to be voted out 15th.

@bonjour9747

4 жыл бұрын

Nobody would complain about the Edge, or Redemption Island, if a player could only return at the merge. I wouldn't mind as much final 10, but final 6 is fucking stupid.

Thank you, Richard, for making this season even more fascinating than it was with your wonderful recaps!! I hope you continue doing them in future seasons and of course hope that some day you might play again!

It is a world of opportunity, indeed, Hatch. We value your voice, we've appreciated and enjoyed your commentaries on Season 40: Winners at War, and we look forward to whatever you choose to do next in the public sphere. Thank you and thanks also to Dante Luna!

Great Commentary Hatch. I really enjoyed your take on the events of S40 and look forward to your future programming!

I could listen to hatch talk survivor all day such a good flow

It's impressing that you were able to speak through and enjoy this season with the disappointment of not being able to play. I wonder if you are at peace with your 2 seasons or would still want to play again even with your dislike of the producers.

@barbarabavier675

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously? Have you not heard him piss and moan about not getting to play in almost EVERY SINGLE video?

Natalie should have either done fire herself... OR chosen Michelle (who was better at fire) to try to take out Tony. Even if Tony beat Michelle... Tony and Sarah may have split votes... and Natalie could have possibly scraped enough jury votes to be competitive. The worst case scenario for Natalie was facing an obvious zero vote in Michelle and then Tony alone. BTW... Tony was the clear winner... by a MILE. And he does now take the crown of best of all time... PERIOD.

@clay7212

4 жыл бұрын

If either Nat or Tony could have faced and beaten Tony in fire I think whoever it was wins it all. I don't know how they didn't see he could not be in the end

@kyaeiias189

3 жыл бұрын

this is late but natalie was gonna pick michelle until sarah convinced her to pick her as she knew if it was natalie vs tony vs sarah or michelle vs tony vs sarah, natalie/michelle would win

@millercory9242

3 жыл бұрын

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@brysonezekiel9837

3 жыл бұрын

@Miller Cory I would suggest Flixzone. You can find it by googling =)

@kyaeiias189

3 жыл бұрын

@@millercory9242 watchseries is pretty good, id also recommend 123movies but they got shut down

Very good insights Rich

Parv revealed in an interview that Natalie was voted off first bc she was way too overconfident and was throwing everyone’s name out (including Parvati’s) - thats why I think she deserved it. She was voted out first because she was playing BADLY and got a second chance smh...

@Irishhound

4 жыл бұрын

She played badly at the end as well. I get people saying she played hard (I disagree, but I get were that is coming from). But she never took any risks after getting back in. Survivor is inherently a game largely based on risk and she needed that risk to get the jury behind her. The moment Boston Rob said "why don't you go against Tony then?" Was the moment she should have known the jury was giving her a chance to win the game. I do believe she would have been the most deserving against any of the other 3 (I wouldn't have liked it, but that's not the point).

@mr.pockets8523

4 жыл бұрын

And when she won her way back in, she looked at Tony and said "Thanks for voting me off" with an attitude I was like" Tony never even played with you, get over yourself" that 100% turned me off from her. All game i never rooted against anyone until she said that.

@kcpiranha58

4 жыл бұрын

@@mr.pockets8523 that was directed at Ben, I had to watch that back to see who she was pissed at. Ben makes the comment you see it in subtitles and she fires back at him.

@annamarie2849

4 жыл бұрын

Tony plays hard, likeable and humble....

@Swordifsh1

4 жыл бұрын

@@Irishhound the reason to not go against tony is incredibly simple. because there's a good chance she'd lose.

Hi Rich, I've listened to your thoughts on the game for years like many others have. I've always very much appreciated your ability to provide clarity about the game itself. I also appreciate your understanding of the importance of valuing different perspectives in the game and outside the game. You always are looking at the game from a larger social and human perspective. Very great content! Please don't stop sharing your thoughts!!!!

Ritch unfortunately you will never play again after bashing probst this hard, but i appreciate that you did

@Machinu5

3 жыл бұрын

Are you sure you listened to the whole thing? Rich already told you that Jeff is a knob.

11:44 "doesn't sit right with me". That's also how I feel about the show's "public service announcements". These "made for TV moments" feel like exploitation of Survivor players real life problems for entertainment and show ratings.

@turdferguson9452

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I feel it’s alright if the social commentary comes up organically such as it did in earlier seasons when they reflect on the similarities to American society. In these seasons, however, it feels like probst pleading with the public to accept him and be glad they are making important statements

@pattipostcard8489

4 жыл бұрын

@@turdferguson9452 Agreed. When Zeke was outed and everyone was honestly upset about it, it felt like a genuine 'teaching moment' and not an excuse to lecture us with a smarmy 'listen and learn, all you stupid, backwards folks, because I'm so enlightened and yet so humble. [Subtext: Survivor is still relevant! Like us on Twitter!]'

@turdferguson9452

4 жыл бұрын

Patti Postcard The show doesn’t seem to respect their audience as intelligent enough people to differentiate genuineness and pandering. They use those moments you discussed to highlight how progressive and aware they are as a show instead of treating the show as a reflection of society (like it is) and working through those problems as people and as a tribe

I just rewatched season 1. I love it! It was so raw. Would love to hear you review it. Would be interesting to hear your thoughts and memories from season 1. Looking back on it now, you were the only one playing to win in my opinion. As far as the no votes thing, I agree with you and so did Rudy. He says the night he was voted out “they forgot about me and I wasn’t getting any votes but then tonight I got one vote but it was fatal one.” The only votes that actually counts are the fatal ones. I also wish you were on this season. It would have been fun watching you play again. I will say I enjoyed the jury asking real questions and not just being hateful. First season I have seen that. Maybe because they understand how the game is played and didn’t hold on to things (votes) so personally. What’s your take on final 2 vs final 3? I personally like final 2 way better. I always feel badly for the 3rd person just sitting there not receiving any votes at all. Michelle has so much to be proud of she fought from an underdog position the entire time and never gave up. I think she played even better this season that the season she won in. But it was painful watching her receive no votes. Tony 100% deserved the win in my opinion, his game was on point but why makes 3rd place sit there and be “ humiliated” why not put them on the jury and give them some power in the game...

@clay7212

4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, I personally feel it should have come down to Tony and Michelle the one who had main control and the one who managed to survive from the bottom the entire time, with Tony winning and Michelle as the runner up.

LETS GOO!!

Extremely Insightful Take on the Finale. Much appreciate your fervor for the game and respect for the intellectual take on Survivor as a Gaming Platform

I've loved your recaps, especially this one. I don't think I disagreed with you once, and you made plenty of points I hadn't thought of. I have also been so disappointed that you, Survivor's 1st winner and an absolute legend of this game was not included in S40. Thank you for doing these recaps and allowing us fans to watch you weekly!

Hey, Dante and Rich. I appreciate your takes, Rich. I tend to agree with you as you make many logical points. I’m writing this after watching this longer recap. I read Mark Burnett’s book on the first season this year. What do you think of it? I have also wondered about your son and your relationship with him at this point, though it may be a rather personal subject to ask about. Thanks for the content and interaction with us Survivor fans.

@Swordifsh1

4 жыл бұрын

hatch has a son?

Richard, I've attempted to post your initial finale reaction 3 times to the Survivor subreddit, with 100,000 users. It's been automatically removed three times, automatically, despite the fact I've followed all the sub's rules and triple checked to make sure. I've put in a complaint and asked for a reason, but if that link has been blackballed for absolutely no reason, or for criticism of the producers/Jeff, then something is rotten in the state of Denmark. I posted it with the intention to discuss what you've sad - not vocalising any opinion either way. Perhaps there's something I'm missing - but you raised points that are SO worth discussing. Seems there aren't many places to do that these days.

@SouthernSkeptic

4 жыл бұрын

Richard has been telling the truth. Survivor reddit is in bed with Survivor and doesn't want the truth to get out.

Really enjoyed your game play wished You were included. I wonder if those on edge had collectively discussed what strategy the returning player would use .

Ben suffers from combat PTSD, the idea of reliving negative past experience must scare him. He mentioned on one tribal that he had issues coming back from his winning season, it's hard to fault him for "quitting". He might have said "friends are worth more than money", but there might be a lot more to it than that.

I would be interested if your content was available in a podcast format. Thanks for sharing your intelligent views with others!

@ColbyBumington

3 жыл бұрын

That would be cool! If you want to help yourself for now you can download a free program called KZread downloader. It converts KZread videos to any format you want. Just copy and paste the link and it saves to your computer

Miss hearing your chats and thoughts. 2 weeks now no new videos 🥺 you're such a great speaker you dont have to ONLY talk survivor, some of us miss you!

@RichHatch

4 жыл бұрын

Pam B Thanks Pam. We are scheduled to shoot tomorrow, so something new should be put up soon. 🙂

Hi. Rich have you ever played or watched a group play the party /social game called 'Mafia or Werewolf'. A few people from a larger group are randomly assigned to be mafia or the town.. The mafia secretly vote people out of the game from the town. The mafia win when they have more people then the town. A few of the town people can have unique roles. The game alternates between 2 phases. 1 phase the town has their eyes closed while the mafia vote, and a 2nd phase when everyone tries to identify and remove the mafia before losing the game. The goal of the mafia is deceive people and blend in. It can be hard to be town also because if you try and make strategic moves and discuss voting and accusations more openly then people will become falsely suspicious. You can usually see a difference in skill between people that have played before, because they pick up on mistakes about how to act and moves that can be made such as claiming to be a certain town role or accuse a fellow mafia member. I think you would like it because it involves reading people and respecting game play that good but dishonest in the spirit. The melee community has the best Mafia content. Some examples of great moments (A fun ending, down to the last vote, with conflicted players ) kzread.info/dash/bejne/mXps1ct9hbmng7Q.htmlh52m20s or (an amazing call out /read on the mafia) kzread.info/dash/bejne/oWuWyLGee7aqhpM.html

In some ways, this season reverted to notions of 'friendship' that some of us thought had gone from Survivor forever (Ben-Sarah, Sarah-Tony). Shades of Colby-Tina and Ian-Tom.

maybe probst refers to survivor family as cast and crew and prod staff down to lowly challenge carpenter puzzle craftsman.. this occurred to me in doctors interaction in post game cast checkup..

I feel the issue with edge of extinction is that a player who did worse (getting voted out first) has many more opportunities to gain those advantages. Nick did really well to survive being voted out for a long time, and his reward was having exactly 0 opportunities to get the same advantages players who got voted out earlier would have.

Survivor 50 Probst vs Hatch vs Hantz, 3 tribes and Jeff finally plays the game.

In such an already subjective game, it seems silly to give no weight to never having a vote cast against you. Some of your talk about strategy is on point, but at times you get off on these hand-wavy philosophical tangents that are silly.

I actually think the big problem with EoE isn't that you can get voted out and still win, I think the problem is you don't have to vote others out. A key concept of survivor that makes it great is that you have to vote people out, and then convince them to give you a million dollars, even though you sent them packing. It is a fundamental part of the game. Natalie didn't have to vote anyone out. That makes it a lot easier to get people to like you.

You should do what Adam is doing. He’s doing a 2 hour class teaching you how to make fire and help with your audition for survivor. You would get a lot of people to do it

@13:45 by the sound of it Rich you prefer a "fly on the wall" approach rather than someone's story being told in the editing room. Which is how Survivor started out, quite similar to Big Brother during the first few years. The contestants determining the direction of the experience, rather than the producers in pre and post production.

@mr.pockets8523

4 жыл бұрын

The recent season of BB were aweful. We see how trash the players can be but then production covers it up during editing. And someone accused of being racist and a bully wins the game and production sours his victory.

Tony and Sarah had a strong agreement before the game started. Neither would vote against the other. That’s why tony was not concerned about her flipping, even after she made her “girl power” speech.

I don't like EoE, but I'm glad it was a part of this particular season, because we had to see a lot more of our favourites. But the advantages on edge had to be dealt with differently - not really fair that those who get first boots have a major advantage against those who are voted off later. EDIT: Also, why didn't Natalie & Michelle made Denise and Sarah make fire in the final 6? Sarah was clearly more of a threat, would be good for Natalie and Michelle to have her gone.

@annamarie2849

4 жыл бұрын

I think because Denise was the queen slayer.....

@tj9944

10 ай бұрын

I think with what little time they had they probably hadn't necessarily consider that

Could not agree more about the hokey fake sentimentality. I love survivor. Let it be survivor.

Hatch droppin da truth bombs!

So glad to hear the props for Michelle, Rich. I felt that her game was really underrated and the fact that she didn't get a vote was a little disappointing.

completely 100%agree with everything youve said all season

Would have you voted out Rudy had you won the finale immunity challenge in season 1? I have always wondered this and I have asked this a few times .. but i stil do not know the answer lol

does it count as a big "move" if Ben gave permission for Sarah to vote him out? I DONT THINK SO

@MP-ef9yo

4 жыл бұрын

hell no and he didnt even need to do it bc Nat got spooked and played the idol for herself not Michele. Then Sarah didnt even make the final 3

Rich, what do you think of a final three instead of a final 2. Most of the time since they had a final 3, one of them doesn't receive any votes. Michelle was embarrssed in not getting a vote. I like to see a video by you in giving your take on a final 3 instead of a final 2. Thanks

If it takes 1 hour to do a recap, then yeah. You know the finale is long people.

@jpbproductions3872

4 жыл бұрын

Rich should’ve been on winners at war. He originally was supposed to replace Ethan but CBS didn’t allow it because of the Sue Hawk controversy. Had he played, he probably would’ve been voted out 3rd or 4th because he would’ve been on the losing Sele tribe and the new schoolers would’ve still perceived there to be an old school alliance because Danni said there was. But I still would’ve preferred to have Rich on the season than Ben, or Nick, or even Wendell

@sonicplushycentral6818

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, he deserved to be on that season along with Tina.

@sonicplushycentral6818

3 жыл бұрын

@@jpbproductions3872 I found this comment again, i would’ve wanted him on more than anyone on the season. If your gonna do a all winners, you gotta have the OG. It blows my mind

To be honest, if we’re gonna give players who get voted out a chance to get back in the game, at least make it entertaining. Redemption island not only was hard on the players, but the duels were competitive and entertaining. I don’t want to see players sitting around starving on the edge. Ideally I’d just like to see survivor stripped down to the bare bones as it was on early seasons, but if not, give us something to watch!

@MP-ef9yo

4 жыл бұрын

You didn't think the EoE challenges were interesting? I loved see how the advantages affected the game and who they were given to

@marz0322

4 жыл бұрын

The EoE challenges were okay, but if we’re gonna give players a chance to get back in the game ide much rather see something like Redemption Island

Natalie didn’t have the power to go against Tony at fire making. Only chance she had to battle Tony was to give up immunity and hope that person , now with immunity, decided to put her in the fire challenge against him.

The four advantages were ridiculous, what were the producers thinking, it gave the intent they wanted the first person voted out in the final 3

Rich... you better be in Season 50. if you don't then I won't understand!!!

@cathleenmarie4338

4 жыл бұрын

Go back and watch RH’s first video or 2 after he was chosen for this season (& then not) if you still believe Jeff

@mahmoudbingarad6320

4 жыл бұрын

@@cathleenmarie4338 Wait. What was Jeff Probst's official reason for not having Hatch in season 40?

@kronickoliosis6115

4 жыл бұрын

Jeff allegedly said “I wouldn’t feel comfortable having Hatch come back considering what he did in the past. With this being a family show, I don’t think it’s a good idea to bring him back to represent this game.” Or something like that. Jeff has a good reason for it, though I don’t know how true it is. I don’t think the allegations made for someone years ago should exclude them from playing a game like this. People lie, cheat, manipulate, hurt others emotionally, psychologically. It just doesn’t make sense that he would say that when this game itself is so dark. But I do understand that, he and producers likely feel it may affect their ratings. Which sucks because I really want to see Richard Hatch back in the game.

@SouthernSkeptic

4 жыл бұрын

Rosalinda, they didn't calo them to inform them they were removed from season 40.

@SouthernSkeptic

4 жыл бұрын

Kronick, that excuse doesn't explain screwing Ms. Tina over though. I believe they were cut lasrt second for Ambuh and Rob.

hi Richard, enjoyed your insight. Think they will ever let you back on survivor or do you think you rubbed them the wrong way?

It makes sense that having no votes technically doesn't matter, because you're right, it really doesn't in terms of the result of the game. If you didn't go home, you didn't go home, whether you got 10 votes or 0 votes. That's it. However, I am shocked that you think it deserves absolutely no praise at all. I think it shows true dominance and control over the game. He played so flashy and dominant and still shook the target off his back. No one even took a shot at him, despite how overtly dominant he was, and that is definitely on account of how he played and how he talked to his cast-mates. If you look at it like a sport, what's more impressive? A football game with a score of 30-31 or 0-31? Surely 0-31 is much more impressive and dominant, at least from a game-play perspective, even if it might not be as fun or exciting. I get that it is not a perfect analogy, but the point is that no one ever even got a score on Tony (that being damaging his game at all). That would be like the defense of a football team stopping any attempts at at any forward motion. That is dominant as hell. He had a great offensive game, but I think you aren't giving enough praise to his defensive game.

I'd love your thoughts on Season One!

Can you talk about what could happen (theories) in situations like: * everyone is immune at tribal (idol, necklace, legacy) not by deadlock * A 1-1-1-1-etc tie during the pre-merge * A three way tie at the final Three (FTC) * And other weird situation

@Broadway_Ben

4 жыл бұрын

1) I don’t know this for sure but I’m pretty sure producers control the number of advantages in the game so this doesn’t happen: there is never more than 3 idols in the game and idols expire at 5 (3 idols + 1 immunity necklace is only 4 people immune) and other advantages typically expire at 6. So I don’t think that could happen. 2) Everyone is eligible for a rock draw, and the person who goes home is chosen at random. 3) Not possible, the number of people on Jury is never a multiple of 3. In theory this could happen on an edge season, where jurors can “leave” the game and give up their spot as a juror. But since Edge will never come back I doubt this will ever be a possibility again.

@salazarslytherin8580

3 жыл бұрын

There can be 4 idols at final 5 as if they start with 3 tribes like in Cagayan all keep there idols from pre merge and then merge idols

Everything about the way rich talks is fantastic love these reviews

27:00 "Sarah had a real possibility of being ousted". Well, if Denise hadn't wasted his idol on Jeremy when taking out Sandra, she would have played it here and Sarah would have had the same fate as Cirie.

Another comment Rich! I think it would be cool if you covered some of the ponderosa episodes posted on youtube and the comments and how some of the players saw the game. One thing I took away from ponderosa reinforces your idea of Ben "quitting." It seems that if that really was a move that Sarah flipped on Ben, Ben ruined it because he told the Jury at Ponderosa that he told her it was okay for her to do it! I feel if Sarah got to the end, that would have majorly taken away from that move.

Rich-very curious about your take on Sarah's speech.

Rich, although i think there's alot of things we would disagree on but I couldn't agree more on almost everything you've said here! Probably because you're a straight shooter as am I. Good insight, Brother. PS, I think this is the last of Boston Rob, I mean 15 times on the show(I know it's not that many, just seems like) let's put him to rest

I almost feel sorry for the criminals on Tony's radar irl. That guy is savant like.

Lacina!

@MP-ef9yo

4 жыл бұрын

who I just I found is a very avid trump supporter

@themoleman9224

4 жыл бұрын

Ya she wasn't the worst though and politics out the window when survivor comes into play, just gameplay, trish in cagayan a better player in my opinion! She wasn't as bad as denise though, probably bottom 5 of my favorites this season!

I don't think you would have gotten very far in the game but you should have been included. Loved the insight.

Thank you very much for your podcast, the best insights by far. There's a great sitcom comedy science fiction called "future man" its hilarious and full of easter eggs ,in the first episode of the third season one very funny easter egg is the book a game show host modelled on the movie"the running man" is reading and its called " Probst-a life" brilliant 😄. ❤️🇮🇱

@subfoirsub6321

3 жыл бұрын

Daniel Slubski 🇮🇱

I am going to be bluntly honest. Ben stole your spot, Richard! I also stated numerous times that Tina should have been in Sophie's place. I have said this a million times during Winners at War that you and Tina should have been there. That move along with ostracizing people like Varner really made me upset with Probst. Thank you for doing an amazing job with these video series!

Here’s my problem with the eoe twist. That potentially someone could intentionally be voted out first, then go there and win a shit ton of advantages and. Idols then win out. Image someone like ozzy lusth. I think to prevent that they should cut the edge twist off at the jury stage simmiler to how they did the outcasts twist. But then it makes them have a bullseye as a easy target like what happened to Tyson. For that scenario I’d give them one tribal counsel immunity plus advantages they won on eoe. That’s my opinion thou

omg,, I can disagree with you in some points, but,, man you are amazing, you made me think in another angle.

Lacina afraid to boast? Just the opposite

My thought on Ben leaving is that he knew, not only through his own actions, but through the way the other players were playing, he was pretty sure that he wasn’t winning against Natalie, tony, or Sarah. If it’s a final 3, there are 4 other people left, and you don’t think you can beat 3 of them, then I can understand him taking the actions that he did. Had he had, in his own mind, any shot of getting the Jury, then I’m 100% on board with your take there. Still respect your opinions on the matter though!

Gee the way Probst is talking I won’t be surprised if we get an *all female cast* next season!

@bioschlock

4 жыл бұрын

Id watch it.

Tony was pretty much handed the game after Nick decided to vote Jeremy out

@jeffogilvy5141

4 жыл бұрын

Lol are you kidding? His road was pretty tough.

@fuckagimmick

4 жыл бұрын

Alex Washin-Carter He’s not saying his road wasn’t tough...

@jesmccoy26

4 жыл бұрын

@@fuckagimmick Thank you, you know what I meant

@MagicByMitch

4 жыл бұрын

I said the same thing....and I've watched every episode of every season

@marxihart3068

4 жыл бұрын

Nick decided that because tony show him two idols, the real one and a fake one he made. So nick was scares he use them. Thats what tony said on an interview. Tony outlast, outwit, at last and out play everyone.

Tony trust her its just 2 MILLION DOLLARS man... and Sarah can BACK HIM UP ON A SPY NEST. WHICH - he told the jury he used a lot more than he did. Annnnnnddddd guess what TONY gets = 2 million dollars

Richard, PLEASE EXPLAIN why you think Probst and production bungled season 39 so much. And please elaborate on how you think they should have handled the entire situation from the beginning, because every time you talk about how badly you think they handled it without any explanation is just unproductive.

Sry for the late comment lol, but my argument against Natalie getting all the advantages on edge is she why should she have an advantage over all the players that made it farther then her when she’s been on edge the whole time having more opportunities at advantages

Ben crumbled under pressure.

I do not blame the player BUT do blame production by letting someone who gets voted out at their first TC to re-enter the game and have a chance of winning. VERY UNFAIR!

@jamesries5534

4 жыл бұрын

I also believe the jury would NOT have rewarded Nat with a win IF she went against Tony in the fire making challenge and won. These 'past winners' are too smart to reward a player who was voted out at first TC and enter the game later on and get to the F3. I believe that is why Michelle did not get any votes. The jury 'probably' wanted to make sure that Tony won because(they eventually found out) there were votes for Natalie for the win. They thought "NO WAY WILL A FIRST BOOT WIN!!"

Nice recap but I hope you would talk more about the strategy choices. For example, did Sarah tank her own game by voting out Ben? If Ben was still there to make fire against Tony, Sarah would have much better chances of winning.

Natalie probably didn't feel confidant in her fire making skills. She also probably felt second place is better than fourth.

Michelle said 4 jurors were going to vote for her to be second place, but were afraid of Natalie winning and switched to Tony.

im glad they gave us a longer episode but there was too much whiny crying drama

Why did Sarah not try and make a move on Tony knowing! She wasn’t gonna win!!!🤦🏾‍♂️ she was a literal pawn. And I hate to say it but I feel like Tony Ben and Sarah had a plan to split the 2 million . Idk but it just seems fishy

Whether the way Sarah, Ben etc. acted was good or bad gameplay (obviously terrible gameplay for Ben). I can understand and empathize with them and it's great television. However whenever Jeff tries to crowbar one of his speeches into the game my skin crawls.

If Nat would’ve given the immunity necklace to Michele, made fire against Tony and beat him, sending him to the jury, she definitely gets more than 4 votes. How cool would it have been if it were a tie and Michele became the tiebreaker?

Have to disagree on the personal moments and interactions. This is what was lost over the years. I think to make this just a game is not what Survivor originally was to me. I watched the first Survivor and subsequently at least the first twelve seasons. So, I don't know where you get that, Richard. So I applaud those moments being included. That's a shame about Jeff. It matters what is in ones heart and how they treat others. He should be thankful for each and every contestant that graced his production over the years. I think it is part of his generation which is also my generation. I think the cat was out of the bag with Jeff last season how the DanSpilo situation was handled by him and production of CBS.

As I've said, Richard Hatch and Brian Heidik should have been there. The presence of those 2 would have dramatically elevated the game. Both are of them are icons for a different reasons and I think their presence combined with people like Sandra and Boston Robb would have an added a layer of intimidation felt by the newer players.

@MP-ef9yo

4 жыл бұрын

You know Brian beat his wife and shot a stray dog and was arrested. He should never be brought back

or you can recap survivor all stars and how you could have gone further lol from singapore, we should have a season here even if we can't have a $1m prize!

No one from the Edge should ever win but liked it this season just so we got to keep the legends like Rob, Tyson, Yul, Parvati etc involved...

For normal seasons, Edge of Extinction would not be an entertaining thing to watch, but I can see why it worked for this season. We were able to see the winners that we knew for the entire show, rather than just one episode and gone for good.

@MP-ef9yo

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly! I think EoE should be reserved for all returning player seasons only

I was all for tony but when natali got back from the extinction island I was all for her I think she was perfect 👌

Again, really bummed you weren’t part of this season Richard. Would have made the season a bit better. But also, I felt people like, Kim, Parv, Nick, and even Boston Rob didn’t bring their 100%. That’s what also made the season a little disappointing, but that could be the luck of the draw when inviting people back. But they made a big mistake not bringing back you and Tina. Oh well. Loved your time in Borneo and All Stars Hatch! Also what do you think the original idea was for season 40? Love the videos!

Excited to hear your thoughts about minors playing Survivor.

Hatch spends way too long doing these self-gratifying recaps & blocks anyone on twitter who so much sneezes in his direction. Doesn’t care for debate or dissent.

@Swordifsh1

4 жыл бұрын

really? i didn't know about the blocking thing. interesting. i do find it odd that the end of his vids keep saying to comment so we can have exchanges but i don't see him posting here much.

By far the best commentary on the game of survivor Richard I’ve been watching on my Apple TV and I realized maybe I should go on my iPad and I subscribed. Your insight and knowledge of the game Paramount keep it up

Some of the EOE players said they didn't even meet Tony. How can they vote that way?

@SouthernSkeptic

4 жыл бұрын

BH, that just show the flaws of EOE. It's not Survivor.

@MP-ef9yo

4 жыл бұрын

Thats the point of final tribal. And they also heard the experiences of all the other players. Also if they never met, there was no chance they got burned by him which could also help

This is a interesting take but this being the slightly stronger alliance then you and Rudy. How can you bad mouth it?

If there was EOE on Season 1, I predict Sonja would have won the whole thing 💖

when richard hatch invented reality tv in 1989...