This would be impressive if there was anything worth blocking here.

As I progress, videos like this become super valuable to watch. HG is really trying to get in, and Fong is just deflecting, closing distance, etc. Much respect to Fong, and to HG.

Well, depends on the school. I've gone full out chisao, including legs, and it's a great workout. What most people don't understand is that chisao is simply a way to practice how to respond to pressure. The WC practitioner wants to get inside and make contact. Once contact is made, you're in the spider's den. The WC guy knows how to respond to pressures from all angles and respond via reflex built up after many hours of chisao training. It's pretty fascinating.

I always come back to this video. I love the palm strike at the end accompanied by smiles and laughs

Amazingly great advice in your description! I think I'll take that learning to my next class. I know I should be doing more defense, but I often try to overcome my blocking weakness by attacking fast. You make good sense. Thank you, Sifu!

Physical contact is important in this drill, and the landed attacks deserve to be recognized. I know not all play this way but when it's done in a controlled manner (and an appropriate teacher) it is quite effective in pointing out problem areas in both attack and counter attack.

good man... i watched this over 500 times to pick up stuff... over and over again

this art is all about ready energy. and it takes hard work to get where you are at

This is the third Wing Chun vid I've watched on KZread so far. In the first two, absolutely no one was using Wing Chun. In this one, it's just two guys with a beginner's knowledge of Wing Chun trying to impress people.

this is a very good demo. the most important part is to feel every movement that the opponent made and learn how to response with both/single hand-blocking. practise it slowliy and later master it in quick response.

So humble!! I've watched your videos over and over I still don't know what your name is. You're a natural at explanation. If I'm ever in the Windy City I will definitely stop by to pay my respects.

So many people here debate and argue, sometimes even great topics, but all for the wrong reasons. The objective is to learn...not egotistical self preservation/advancement or whatever selfish reasons you have. And hgamer, thanks for posting these vids, they are all actually very inspiring.

The 2 superior blocking videos still the best imo. Keep doing what you're doing.

I must have watched this vid 50 times and always see something new.

Nice to see another WC with some forward pressure.

he is my teacher and i wasn't giving him a run for his money, he was letting me attack... if he wanted to, he could just freeze my position in place

Ok to all of these people who say that Wing Chun is too linear and that the style/system does not work against advanced fighters in other styles I would like to point out a very important fact. It is not the Martial Art itself, but the practitioner studying the Martial Art and how at one they are with there style, think about it.

@fatmancue Precisely. Repetition solidifies your response time and your anticipatory abilities. The first time you do Chi Sao for instance, it's confusing, especially when you start your step-in punch. But after a while it becomes second nature. Chi Sao was designed for both attacker and defender to train in how to hold their ground. I remember my first time, I was falling back, but my Sifu said "you're actually stepping back because you're uncomfortable with him being so close...."

superlike this..very good control ..liked last bit most when he deflected to incoming attack

My cousin in his late teens and early 20's was in many street and club fights. He and i always loved boxing, since we were teens. Still do. When we spar, we always spar boxing style. And guess what? The punches he throws in sparrin are exactly the same as those he uses in real fights. He has never come to me and said "boxin doesnt work". Why? Cos he himself is a BOXER, who used his boxin in the STREET. Pure and simple.

I remember there was an ancient argument on here a long time ago. I just randomly remembered this video and had to check it out xD

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Same here 🤣

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@@hellblazer1803 It lasted like 5 years lmao

To set the record straight, whenever Bruce Lee came back to Hong Kong he would learn Wing Chun because he wanted to complete the system. He only learned 1/4 of the system and still rocked everyone. Think on that!

actually what i like to do.. is pop in some mma matches, and seeing the 2 guys roll around each other and getting sweaty.. works for me

@hgamer I just started training. My sifu is awesome. This guy was doing a stick drill with me and was dominating me with one hand. Were learning how to use the ground to feel the other persons center when we are working our drills. I love wing chun.

glad you're understanding what I'm saying and its okay, because I don't train in just 1 style I try to cover all ranges in my training (outside of attending Kungfu class) one of my focuses right now is it try to work from striking to grappling and vice versa. train in multiple arts, but don't spread yourself out too thin. otherwise you might not get much done at all

oh man your master is very good! at that very last part i was very impressed, he already sensed your body getting ready to attack and he executed before you could. very good. I mean i'm no master at any martial art but i have a good eye.

It's interesting how so many people will say "Boxing and Kickboxing and MMA are better for a real life situation than martial arts." Let me tell you. Most guys who go into boxing, kickboxing and MMA are usually tough nuts living a life of poverty in hostile envorinments (Brazil). This is why they have this image of superior. Most martial artists don't feel a need to fight unless absolutely necessary. The stories are rare but theres always a rare footage of wing chun owning opposition.

I totally agree. Just to add, WC is the only martial art that you stick to your opponent's movements.. You control the person like a puppet and palm strike or punch when he is open.

Wow those 2 are pretty good! My respect for that bro!

Old man doesn't got it anymore his family member is just being respectful which is good

Always a pleasure to see Sifu Fong in action with one of his students! Looks like fun! :-)

Yeah, maybe you are right. I am not a wing chun practitioner, but I am thinking of practicing it.

Dang - at 1:58 Fong steps out of the way as if he knew what was coming! That's what I'm talking about! This was one of the first few videos I checked out when I 1st got into WC, and it looks even better now!

These guys are really good, if not great! Love watching these videos, real Wing Chun!

thank you for sharing all these videos mu friend . Keep promoting this art. BOW

Happy thanks giving to all, and i do mean all

Just came from class, and I've been to one of his 2 day-all-day camps. As I get better I appreciate videos like these. He speaks highly of Fong, it's really neat. It's like a family thing man. Been with Grados for almost 2 years now. It's an honor to be in such a solid lineage. I'll go for private lessons when I get enough$, but if he sees that you love the art, you can get him to put out awesome stuff. Fong seems cool like that too.

Respect to both , great to watch thank you

thank you for your comments, for awhile, I thought stupid didn't exist anymore

Compliments!..remind's me of "the Beast" in the movie Kung-fu Hustle..."hit me Harder, Harder" amazing his speed and confidence makes me smile too.

The potential, has been, an always will be in the person. Not the style. Everyone has its advantages and disadvantages and so does the styles. I am not hating on anything myself and enjoy most of what they have to offer. A real martial artist has the respect, look at GSP. He has so much respect toward everyone, that is why so many respect him. The you work out, the better. I hate when people do martial arts and don't maintain their bodies.

you may be right, but the Martial art of wing chun, is a physical , mental and spiritual training art. it trains the mind to focus on all elements working in harmony with one another. the sticking hands is very effective a training exercise. it aids the process of speedy mental and physical reaction. it is not just about fighting. having said that, i think you might be surprised at how powerful this actually is.

Thanks for the great comment!

Also my physical routine goes as follows: GPP (rosstraining), strength training paired with explosive exercises, stretches, core strength (planks, hanging leg lifts, rotational, lower back ect).

The older gentleman was really making sure the young man wasn't going to get the better of him... and he knew he wouldn't with that smirk on his face. : )

@VikingII - These fellows are just doing sensitivity drills - this is not wingchun boxing. Chi Sho (sticky hands) is simply a way to increase awareness visually and physically. It helps us with timing when we see a punch or kick coming and how to respond quickly. But as I said again, it is not the sparring part of Wing Chun.

how well do you think the fight is going for you if its more then 3 minutes?

That's an excellent defense. I'll have to pay more attention to Wing Chun to up my abilities.

btw chi sau (sticky hands) is one of the component of wing chun to train the sensitivity of touch , reflexs and coordination of both arms. it is relative as it trains how you respond and look for openings in real fight. you can pick up phyiscal training quickly but not chi sau and thats the essense of wing chun

The major differences in a mma vs. wing chun contest is that wing chun practitioners wouldn't get in fights and if they did they dont strike first. So basically any fighters first strike is then a constant battle to regain power unless they back off.

Sifu Fong is clearly the man. It is ridiculous how good he is. I have been practicing a form of kung fu similar to Pak Mei for a long time and I just took up Wing Chun (and I love it!) but I can see how obviously dominant Sifu Fong is. It freaks me out knowing that my little brother is learning from him! I better practice before I get beaten!

"Why the hell would I want to fight in a horse stance?" Are you not reading right? I just said it is for developmental purpose only (leg strength and balance). In application we can be ANY stance as long as we maintain the centerline.

Really good! I like wing chun even tough I don't have experience with it (I practice Hapkido). However I like the defensive moves of wing chung a lot! I also like the way you train, relaxed and with a smile on your face but still serious about the art of wing chun. Just how it should be. Kind regards

@VikingII "sticky hands" or chi sau is a form of close range sparring drill to exchange techniques with a partner in a controlled manner, it develops sensitivity to the movements and energy of an opponents whole body, not just their hands. You can defend and counter attack a lot faster when you can feel what someone is trying to do, rather than just relying on your eyes. It is not meant to be taken as a real life fight scenario, but the skills are very valuable in a real fight.

and yes i defenitly agree with ur point about eye poking. many wing chun people talk about eye poking. no idea why. i train wing chun myself and we have no eye poking.... if u were to poke the enemy in the eye, and he would only lower his head for like 2-3 cm's, u would break ur fingers on his forehead. instead of poking in the eye u can just close ur hand and ram that fist into his face. eye poking completely defies wing chun principles. u only give the enemy a chance to take over the fight

Jesus christ, Sifu Fong is a beast.

that was awesome - that guy on the right his hands are like water - can't get away from him - very soft - wish i had that sensitivity . . .

@VikingII It doesn't happen like that but it develops your reactions and deflections. Also you're trained to stick with your opponent so it comes into play then too.

@chillbrotha01 his stance is like a mountain, and his body feels like adamantium steel

Your words show you a truely a person who knows nothing about what you are seeing here.

as an MMA guy myself anybody on here hatin on this style should know that this technique could be effective when wrist wrestling with ur opponent while in guard. this obviously would help improve your reflexes when tryin to control the hands. also in sports jiu jitz

Bro honestly I hate it when people hate on wing chun because 99% of the people who hate on wing chun are people who have no idea what it is and dont take the time to research about it. Fucking haters... Wing Chun for life

Will definitely be using your videos to get into things before I start a school.

chi sao and gwor sau (exchange of hands) are meant to help you understand the applications of wing chun concepts; and achieve the reaction, action and appropriate use of force: e.g. deflection, not blockage. You're meant to apply the action, reaction and feel & manipulation of force from it to real combat. Those who doubt its practicality i see where you're coming from, but you obviously don't understand the concepts behind it.

fantastic redirection!

WC is a style meant to not only make your hands quick but also to increase hand sensitivity. its a style meant to help you on the streets when someone surprises you. It is NOT a good style when against other trained fighters. do you like football? many football teams out there are actually training their players with WC so they can get around the opposition using hand sensitivity. bruce lee also learned this style originally, this style is what trained him to be as fast as he was.

Did you not see who I quoted? That is Wong Shun Leung, you understand boy? Perhaps the greatest Wing Chun street fighter of all time.

Chi Sao isn't for fighting - It's a drill in energy and sensitivity. These two young fellows are just enjoying themselves with some chi sao. Martial arts are for self discovery and enlightenment as well as fighting. In many ways MMA has diluted the spirit and knowledge of some of the arts and brought only the physical aspect. It also encourages a more violent society and reinforces negative stereotypes - everyone is free to be anything - it's a shame that many people choose poorly.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I wish you could see the guys here, crying with laughter reading your comments. Please keep 'em coming LMFAO!!!

@iApna I agree. Fight psychology is very important in any martial art. A teacher has to prepare the student for "horrible scenarios" whethet that be in ring or street. The student has to visualise the opponent in front of them and be preapared the opponent will hit back fiercely. This will prepare the student much better.A student who doesnt visualise his/her opponent in front of them may be frozen in a real fight cos they were not "mentally" preapared. Good sparring helps a lot too

Shadow. i agree. By the time bruce became a great martial artist, his footwork was clearly boxing ali style. His punches were a combo of wc and boxing.

Bruce Lee wrote in his book that he cross trained in western boxing for the advantage in strength. I don't know the exact page but it's the topic about circular punches. Secondly, no one (from the top fighters) in K1 uses WC. The main arts you see in K1 are kickboxing, muay thai and full contact karate.

@iApna yup, very hard to fight guys that are tough and willing to take the pain. the only thing i could add is this may be adjusted when weapons (knife, club) are involved. that first hit could pretty well end the fight.

True and Bruce Lee also trained in BJJ when he got to america in the time nobody even heard about that martial art, he was an all around fighter ...

What is your relationship to Sifu Fong? Is he your primary instructor? I can't believe how much you give him a run for his money. Good Wing Chun!!

This is just a guess but the purpous of this is to build hand eye co-ord then to build up speed, so when they are confronted with a real punch they will have it in thier muscle memory and will be able to execute the techniques without thinking on it

Awesome. These instructors are impressive. I'd be nice to these guys if I were you. I practice a little bit of Wing Chun as part of JKD concept training and it really to helps complement western boxing.

if you haven't already figured it out, kommisar is just a teenage kid... so, like all teenagers just ignore. what's funny is he's like my gay stalker, he hates wing chun, but stays on here consistently, so in a way, it just funny.

Great video. It would be great to meet your master. I practice Hung Gar, but I'd like to learn Wing Chun after a few years of Hung Gar.

there is a big difference between being able to defend yourself in a real street fight and being able to beat the shit out of someone for peoples entertainment

hgamer, ur teacher in this vid reminds me of one of mine i had. he always was a good sport and made me feel i was doing good against him even when i was nowhere close to making him push his skills lol. i miss working out

Nice to see such skill, great video ~

Good job, you should get a "Identifying a troll" patch.

Guys I seem to remember having this discussion at 10 or 11 years old, I am serious and I must tell you aside from bruce lee flicks and play fighting with each other thats about all we knew. But growing up and being in numerous real combat situations I counted 30 but theres probably some others,Some lost and most won over a span of 40 years all were learning experiances. The last five years out of ten confrontations I won them all. I learned to walk away and difuse the situation.

In fact a few months ago a former british soldier was beaten to death by a gang. So here we have a soldier whos trained for war. Trained to kill. But even he couldnt handle multiple guys. It doesnt mean the soldier isnt tough, it simply means fightin multiple guys is almost impossible, especially if the gang is intent on hurtin u. Anyway, rest in peace soldier.

Keep it coming little man. You didn't own any argument. I'll talk all I want about proffesional fighters because they are involved in sport. Allow them to bite, claw eyes, strike the throat etc etc and I'll consider it 'real' fighting. I have much experience on the street and the reality of our exchange is that if it were face to face you would not be so mouthy because I would already have offered you an on-the-spot fight, you wouldn't be the first, boy.

Personally, im a student of all martial art. I've studied a laundry list of different styles to compare and contrast its strengths and weaknesses on my own time. As a soldier, the basic mechanics of BJJ is widely used as the foundation for standard US Army training. As with any military branch, the level of training and job description would dictate how much time you have to practice it while in the service.

Ok, classic argument, I know, but self-defense and league fighting are COMPLETELY different. As my teacher once said, "Read the rule book for all the things you're not allowed to do and you'll know the most effective moves in combat." If someone is REALLY attacking you, you might consider collapsing their throat or jabbing them in the eye. That being said, Wing Chun has a lot of dirty fighting that would never be ring legal.

@silversification Being the best puncher is more than just punching hard. Its about being able to throw combos and continue to punch on while the opponent is hitting back. Sure, a ring may have rules (of course) but at least the opponents are hitting back. Pls bear in mind that when the opponent is hitting back, the fight can often look messy cos thats the reality of a fight. The opponent hits back and therefore becomes unpredictable

sticky hands and chi sao are the exact same thing.... leg work drill is chi gurk.... actually its not all knees because like i said, there are tons of kicks in wing chun, but always play a secondary role to the hands...

as for self defense classes, not exactly sure how I can show you. You have access to youtube and the internet, as well as sources in your area. Go attend a self defense class or ASK a local (maybe your) instructor about self defense. heres a snippet of something a Canadian soldier said: "We do a lot talking trying to de-escalate conflict and avoid fighting. But if we can't avoid it then we go for the eyes, throat, balls, we bite, etc. It's really not sport." I'll give you the link if you want

Real Masters have attained a level of instinct, reflex and control which means they don't need to expend great energy or conduct marathon battles. True martial artists, who practise it for self-defence and not for show, will seek to despatch their opponent as quickly as possible, not dance around forever. The beauty of Wing Tsun is that is can be effective for all body types and it involves utilising an opponent's energy against them. You don't need to be Hercules to defend yourself.

A punch of about 1000 pounds of force is enough to cause a severe concussion on a straight in punch to the forehead, but only approximately half that force is required to cause that concussion when hitting the chin. almost all styles of striking martial arts aim for the concussion because once it happens you can do anything you want, leave him there, kill him, whatever. Wing chun's main deal is to defend yourself until you see an opening, then take it and throw that one power punch.

carl515 i understand what you are saying. my point is chi sau would mean to say that your wing chun is most effective at close range. that is the essense because other martial arts becomes ineffective at this range. when you have distance or loss of contact, that is when you bridge your distance through the footwork. that will rely on good eye to read the moves. i agree that you jam the elbow so that the opponent cant make a response. that is the blind side of the opponent.

I am guessing there is many moves in Wing Chun, but is there a set of most useful or favorite moves people use?

@wingchunnetwork its the quick and easy route, and so limited..... but everyone is allowed to choose

Very nice. Thanks for the clip hgamer.

MMA is actually a martial art. Its stands for mixed martial arts and its a combination of whatever you wish. Most mma guys dont go out and cause trouble. Sure, many were from the streets originally but once they have a fight career, they cease their trouble making ways. Respect to all martial arts. :)

The point of this is once someone throws a punch or whatnot, the second you make contact, that's when Wing Chun starts. VERY difficult, but the top Wing Chun practitioners are just flat out crazy! but even for the guy studying this for a good two years could be flattened out by a great striker.

i understand what you are saying... i think what you are saying is the different WC teachings... some teachers teaches WC with fast hands, lighting strikes and outside chops.. something like Bruce Lee. However, there are others that "emphasis" more on "Positioning" rather than speed and when you emphasis on Positioning, you are constantly attacking the person's centerline even when you are defending.. Pressure is always on your opponent... you never stop and readjust.