Very sorry to hear of the passing or Sifu Meadows, this august 2021. He inspired so many of us and was absolute pioneer of the spirit of Wing Chun.

@darrylchabot2514

2 жыл бұрын

damn, news sure does travel fast. the fact that the man made great efforts to stay unknown and still had fans around the world is hard to wrap your head around this day and age. this man's passing is truly the end of an era

@stanwalker3846

2 жыл бұрын

are you serious what happened?

@diannemullins8062

2 жыл бұрын

@@stanwalker3846 Covid

@quanfa88

2 жыл бұрын

🙏🙏🙏

I was one of the original group in the 1980s when we trained in the garage. This was before the school. I touched hands with my Sifu and my Sigong. They are truely related in martial arts. There is a touch like no other. If anyone says different, they just don't know. Honored to have been trained, hit, slapped, and have the reaction that has stayed with me for years. Anyone who talks bad about my sifu Meadows, or sigong Duncan, I'll show you what a 55 year old with 6 years of training can do 30 years after his last instruction.

@stanwalker12strikes61

7 жыл бұрын

Mik

@stanwalker12strikes61

7 жыл бұрын

Mike Marsala are you still training? And when was the last time you spoke to your sifu?

@calmwater2529

4 жыл бұрын

Laughs, "I love it."

@WingChunGungFu

4 жыл бұрын

Default User lol. Dave Meadows did this? This really happened?

@WingChunGungFu

3 жыл бұрын

Default User Wow. Maybe he was making a bad joke

The "bitch slaps" you refer to happen quite often. Its a great incentive to learn how to do the moves correctly and develop speed. He never intentionally tries to injure. Just a little pop once in a while to keep you focused. In a real fight your opponent is not going to go at half speed or pull punches. Dave teaches you to know a range and all the students understand this range and train at full speed. Learning a proper pak sao is very painful at first, but rewarding later on.

I trained under Sifu Dave Meadows for a while. My only regret is that I didn't train with him longer! He was a great teacher. And yes he would slap you to keep you on your toes and also an occasional swift kick in the family jewels to make sure you didn't forget your cup! LOL! And all I saw who challenged him could not tell you which hand he hit you with first or how many times he hit you. He was the real deal!

Sifu Meadows is one of the kindest and most genuine men I have ever met. I trained at the school for about 18 months more than 15 years ago but I had no real talent for the art. I am grateful however for the time I spent there.

@scottwatts6603

10 жыл бұрын

Glad to see an honest and sincere comment on here!

@TheSoprah

5 жыл бұрын

I think I have no talent either but I just keep practicing. because : time > talent! ;)

@hiddenpathwingchun5045

3 жыл бұрын

Duncan Leung is the real thing. A closed-door student of his taught me freely as a young boy [and Wing Chun allowed me to save my baby brother's life from a gang armed with clubs as well as disarm 2 knife attacks in closed quarters among many other assaults]. If I had learned any other art I would be dead. Don't be discouraged! Most are taught "backward". I think you should give it another try and look inward. Don't chase it; let it come to you. Your obvious humility is a virtue which leads to wisdom. If anything, Wing Chun is the Way of Wisdom; and it resists the proud. Tip: Empty movement is meaningless. We must use intention. Our movement should result from intention and mindfully directed energy. Otherwise we merely pantomime. Siu Nim Tao does not teach applications; it merely ponders the "tools" we possess, giving us "letters" of the alphabet but not yet words and not yet "expression". Too many use a hammer on a screw. We MUST understand our tools before we can "build". Meadows appears very skilled. Wing Chun rewards humility. It runs counter to most arts. Most teach "more force". Wing Chun is NOT a movement-based art; it is an energy-based art. Energy over movement; focus over force. Minimize movement & maximize effect. Consider the lines [elbows to palms & knees to feet]. Technique is not responsive. Understanding line & energy is the key to unlocking the system. God bless. I do hope you continue your Wing Chun journey!

dave was a great teacher he taught a very aggressive style with strong emphasis on either maiming or killing if u fight

Love that man! Wish I could see him again! Best teacher I ever had!! And painful one too.

Man, what a find on here. I had a the privilege of training with Dave around 1995-1996 when I was stationed at Naval Operations Base in Norfolk, VA just up the street from that facility. I was the type of kid that didn't listen to anyone, but I listened to him. He is so intense and knowledgeable about WC yet, has a ton of charisma and could have had a career as an entertainer if he wasn't such a bad ass at WC. I remember having to punch those X-ray sheets you see in the video for speed.

Watching this vid brings back very painful memories. I loved training with Sifu Meadows. I remember almost all the guys in that video.

My point exactly. We train the same way. Keep up the hard training!

Thank you Sifu Meadows.

It's good to be a great fighter. That's a good video of Sifu Dave the fighter. What's an even greater gift and widely unknown fact is that Sifu Dave is an outstanding teacher.

What you were teaching way back when was way ahead of everyone's time... God Bless our Sifu Duncan Leung and you "Sihing" re: "Yuan". David Meadows Best Regards, Frisco_sensing

I'm glad to see that the rest of world can know just how good Sifu Meadows is. I learned a lot while training with him

this man is a gd genius i been studying all differnt tpyes of martial arts and wing chun for the past three years i learned with a friend of mine. if only i had this man as a master

I was a student of his off and on for about 6 years and I can honestly say Sifu Dave Meadows is an amazing example of what Wing Chun really is. He is incredibly fast, sharp, and heavy handed. Unlike many other teachers out there he really knows his shit and can dissect every single little movement and teach it in a way that is easy to understand. It has been said that he is arguably one of the best teachers in the country and I would definitely have to agree…

Missed U Sifu.

Excellent application on Larger attackers!

I trained with Sifu Meadows for a short time when I was in the Navy back in ‘94. At 23 yrs old I WAS NOT ready for what he had to offer. I have been in many Kung Fu schools and seen a lot of CRAP, but Sifu Meadows is the real deal. To this day I wish I had stayed with him. Is anyone from his school teaching in the Dallas area? If so please contact me.

Thank you。谢谢

i LIKED YOUR VIDEO... MY TEACHER ALSO STUDIED WITH DUNCAN LONG AGO..JA GUIDE

If you watch the video only looking at agressors, you quickly realize that they never really attack.

There seems to be a lot of crap from martial arts "masters" on the internet. This is NOT that crap. I'm impressed. I hadn't heard of this guy before seeing this video. However, he seems to be the real deal...not flashy or showy...just to the point.

wing c is great when bad guys square up to you stay in one range and attach their arms to you. in all seriousness the attributes from drills are good. lap sao , pak sao, blasting and the centerline concepts are good- can be taught in a few months then --find more tricks.

He is just giving you a glimpse of what the style really is. Besides, I'm sure he could have hit him much harder if he wanted to.

终于见到老外把咏春练出一点味道的。

Closer to Bruce honestly than most wckf.

The rolling method is over 400 years old method of developing sensitivity to your another's hand movement and intent. This training allows you block by feel instead of by sight in close quarters, because "the hand is quicker than the eye." It's not practiced because it is liked or disliked but for it's effectiveness.

my biggest regret in my military tour was I just never got around to training with him in Norfolk while I was stationed. I trained on base, but just never got around to this school, save for one visit .

R.I.P to Sifu Dave Meadows, may God bless your soul!!!

The school was awesome. '94

Nice, he did look small how tall was he?

I understand. I know that a baseball bat is considered an exaggerated comparison, and yes i understand that this is no where near as damaging compared to kickboxing, mma, etc. Just thought he could be a little more discreet, but of course everyone has their own teaching methods. I respect that.

i like it!

That story is fairytale!!! Wing Chun been around over 400yrs check the Ving Tsun Museum...... Love the video tho! Classic!!!

super...!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@kungfuinva I'ld love to see any video of Dave Meadows.

One hell of a fighter

When I said "not exactly textbook form," I did not mean that the forms themselves were out of sequence. I meant that Meadows Sifu was not rigidly adhering to a defined position, but instead was adapting his movements appropriately to the situation. Also, I have never heard that Meadows Sifu learned directly from Ip Man. He learned from Duncan Leung, who was a closed-door student of Ip Man. Ip Man died in 1972, shortly before Meadows Sifu began training in Wing Chun.

Do you know where this footage is?

詠春的要點就是在破壞/格擋他人攻擊的同時，馬上反擊對手，不過出拳沒有使用到腰部，所以在傷害上並不會太高，才需要連續擊打增加破壞力，我是認為假如真的要練防身術，柔術是更好的選擇

@DespairJia

7 жыл бұрын

之前嘗試過詠春的直拳，雖然沒有使用腰力，但是用到類似拉弓的力量，也有用到馬步的轉體，我站穩整個人被打退，還好對方是出掌

THESE GUYS A VERY FIT....

So you're saying the pole can only be used on one side with a two handed person?

I couldn't tell ya brotha my sihings told me about it but I think it's lost or hidden footage, Ive searched the net for it and couldn't find it, but I know this dude is the real deal

That's cool. Wish there were some of that lineage up here in Washington State. Spokane to be exact, but there is too much BJJ and TKD in this area as well as standard boxing. I enrolled in one school that claimed to be a particular style of kung fu and the instructor got offended when I hit him with a hard pak sao as if I was just supposed to go through the motions at a slow speed. On top of that he kept trying to sell me books every 15 minutes. Sure miss the no-nonsense style of Dave...

Around these parts, we like to call that dry land swimming.

hehe crazy full speed butterfly knives drills...

@TheZakkSchonhans Hello Zak how is your knee? I am glad Dave helped to realign your knee that one time, when in training a crazy china man accidently kicked a little hard. If I am not wrong, you are the friendly guy with russian heritage? Sifu is definitly a character, and his disciples too. They maybe like what you say "walking Death" during training, but off training, they are just like anyone else.

Superior. Serious, no-nonsense training with much application emphasis. Excellent attention to detail. Not exactly textbook form, but that is probably a good thing (structure not strictly defined according to arranged sets). While he did (for lack of a more polite term) "bitch slap" his student during chi sao, this is part of Wing Chun/Southern Chinese martial arts training. It stings and gives a feel for fighting, but does no permanent damage (unlike the blows received in boxing, etc.).

nice!!!!

First off just to say I am a practitioner of WC so I am not anti WC but I do see allot of vids like this and in some ways they are fine but I do hope people realize that none of these situations would ever actually work out in this way which is why often times I think that this kind of training/demo is pointless because a real fight is nothing like it. I believe in WC and its methods and principles but sometimes I see a rigidness that I just dont think would work against a trained fighter

You should contact SiFu James Sasitorn or Curtis Alden from Houston Wing Chun Kung Fu. I'm sure they would be willing to help you with your challenge match.

vaumbee. RIGHT!!!! as much as I hate, loathe, detest and abhor DM .. you are right to say what you said.

所有武術的基本功就是練熟套招，光套招動作power就輸了，更別提活用

Mister Spock is very good at Wing Chun.

@ Mefeld18. It may seem like sucker punching but, if you have ever trained with him for, lets say a year, you will understand how you are supposed to learn your range. You can't learn by pulling punches. His full contact methods are awesome at developing your reflexes. If you stick with it you will eventually discover that you react with the tools you have learned without thinking. Seriously. Anything that makes a movement toward my face is greeted with a bong sao lop sao or a tan sao point shoulder reaction. That includes doors, people trying to play fight with me, objects thrown, you name it. It really works out if you have the discipline to take it seriously. If you want to go a safer route just find some school that takes your money and tells you to do a sidekick on a bag for a half hour.

....I'm sorry but how does that relate? I can understand that can be compared as practicing a martial art but never using it. But how does that rhetorical question compare to his slapping method? Anyway, just wondering.

Well, it was quite a slap, but it was of course not nearly as hard as being hit by a baseball. To answer your question, it depends upon your priorities. If you care about developing your potential to the maximum, there is no getting around contact in the martial arts. However, please realize, this pales in comparison to blows received in boxing, kickboxing, or MMA sparring.

Dave Meadows is hardcore

when these techniques are applied by a daily practioner your arms will snap like twigs conditioning of forearms make them like baseball bats blocks are really strikes applied to tendons arteries and nervbundles

Then what is it?

Some of the scenes in the video is kind of funny.

8:21 Don't underestimate this move. It really works and gives you a significant advantage in a fight. Looks simply but, it is deadly. I've used it. Sucks for the opponent when they can't breathe properly. Someday I hope to find him and complete my training I started around '95

@johnnychannarong5484

7 жыл бұрын

i dont trust that move all the time.. first of all in theory it works well.. but the punches come out so fast that it may be a hook or a straight.. both may look the same once the punch starts to load.. so if you think its a straight punch , then you parry it.. only NO it was a hook.. then you end up getting hit in the face by a super big hook. thats why boxers USUALLY never parry the right hand.. only the left.. wing chun works great against untrained drunks.. not against mma/muay thai fighters used to fighting!

@stevenmccartney

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnnychannarong5484 I think Dick was talking about the punch to the ribs and moving your fist up. I understand your point of view though.

R.I.P. 🙏🙏🙏

Your modesty is admirable, but Chinese invented Wing Chun and can of course practice it as well as everyone else. It does not matter about one's nationality, race, etc. It just matters how hard you practice.

if you dont feel it yourself you wont know it works

4:09-4:37....INSANE!!!

@mazilin2 If it stirs your emotions, you must learn better self-control. It is not exactly sparring. It is a drill that teaches sensitivity & structure. There is absolutely nothing dishonest about it, so long as the practitioners are aware of what the drill entails before engaging in it.

fast speed!!!

In reading the comments below there are a few points that need to be made. 1) In WC when you play the aggressor you get the power you put into the attack returned in exactly the same power you apply. If you think the aggressors look like they are just going through the motions trust me they are not. They are applying just enough effort and power to complete the attack without getting themselves hurt by their own force. Ask me how I know! 2) Complaining about getting slapped during training is like a boxer complaining that their sparing partner hit them! Sifu Meadows has always stressed that being contacted (this my mean slapped) during training teaches your body not to shut down at the first incident of pain. There was a vey publicized case in the Norfolk area where a Mid-20s woman who was a second degree black belt was beaten to death by a mugger. I remember her parents asking why it happened when she had been taking Karate for 15 years. Witnesses testified she shut down after the first punch. She never experienced any real contact during training. 3) DM and his students enjoy making real contact when demonstrating WC to others like the press or organizations. It's fun. I remember asking a question in class about why the opponent would not just hit him in the stomach while he was demonstrating a sequence. He called me up to the middle of the class, asked me to put my fist one inch from his stomach and told me to hit him as hard as I could the moment he touched me. He hit me with no more force than a person would use to clap and his tap made my brain go blank for a split second. Couldn't see or react in any way. No unnecessary force to demonstrate his point. I don't know of any person who has an issue with what he teaches just personal issues on how he trains. I know what he trains works. Ask me how I know that too.

@johnnychannarong5484

7 жыл бұрын

that shows your're an idiot. any logical person would know that action is faster than reaction.. he knows how to fight i would say but he totally preyed on your stupidity.. first of all, if he tells you to put your fist near his stomach and wait for him to hit you first then you can hit him, obviously he's going to land his shot first.. and since you got no hand to block your face, that little slap would blind you so you wont be able to hit him back.. if i were there, i would have said this is not realistic.. cause he already knows you're going to hit him in the body .. if u guys were sparring, it would be totally different..

dave is more than a sifu

See , here is someone who knows!

but far more effective than keyboard kwan do. . . . . .

@mfeld418 what kungfuinva is not saying is that the person was a 15yr child who on the request of his instructor was told to go out and seek knowledge in the other disciplines.But mr. meadows had a problem with the young mans teacher,see the young man came from a j.k.d background ,wanted to study wing and was sent to the highest authority,by his sifu.mr.meadows took the opportunity to try and discredit the teacher and his skill.now k.f.in.v.a post what happen when the teacher came to academy.

i like his power.老外真的練的比東方人好

又是一個師傅打徒弟-_-''''

This is my school, I went here, its Norfolk Virginia... what?! its not secret... now, the footage of DM in his garage... now, thats probably secret.lol.

Most sifu's don't beat up on there students, if a sifu hits his student during training its most likely on accident not on purpose to show fear and intimidate his students.

I know he means well by slapping a person to make them feel a sense of combat, but is it reall nescessary? I mean, no being rude but if you look at how a baseball bat hits a baseball to make it go flying, you can tell you do not want to get hit by a baseball bat because of the power behind the swing. Just wondering about his teaching method.

有練還是有差，招都套好了所以還好 反應很快 不過遇到有練過的就不一定了

don't compare people specally if you don't know ...

最好是 招都套好了..

Man finally they put footage of this cat, lolll now I see why some students would file lawsuits against this, but this is REAL martial arts not tournament sports, martial arts true purpose is for killing and maiming not fighting for points, no matter how good you are in the RING unless you know how to train your intent for the streets, but yeah this dude is the truth, there's some other footage where he suckerpunches fresh ppl pff the street that come into the school with ppl being carried out!

are the moustaches a status symbol lol

Steve Falkner didn't learn what Sifu Dave had learned from Duncan.

@Kcseales

4 жыл бұрын

@@stevenmccartney I'll expound on that. Steve Falkner learned the whole system from Duncan Leung. He is Duncan's formal disciple. Dave Meadows did not learn the whole system, and Dave is not a formal disciple of Duncan.

@WingChunGungFu

4 жыл бұрын

Kcseales I thought Dave was a disciple also but no longer is due to a following out of some sort? Or maybe he never was at all? Also the original comment of this thread implies it was the other way around, that Dave Meadows learned more than Steve Faulkner. Ultimately it sounds mostly political. Thoughts?

@Kcseales

4 жыл бұрын

@@WingChunGungFu Dave was never a formal disciple of Duncan. He never had the formal disciple ritual. This means he was never shown everything. And he definitely did not learn more than Steve Falkner. There definitely was a falling out, but that specifically doesn't have to do with him claiming Dave as a disciple or not. He just simply never was.

@Kcseales

4 жыл бұрын

@@WingChunGungFu Oh snap! What's up bro!? Didn't read the name when I replied.. You never messaged me on Insta. Talk to me on there, I can talk more freely on there. LoL.

@WingChunGungFu

4 жыл бұрын

Kcseales Lol my bad. It’s been busy. I’ll hit you up on IG

非常好，中国人都没他练得好

Then you should have no problem beating anyone out of Dave Meadows' lineage, right?

wyglada jak natanek

Because of Sifu Dave, after all these years I still can kick young dumb asses who talk bs about this man. I hope Si Gong Ducan and Sifu Dave are well.

Like what?

looks like Spock :)

@spockrising3208

4 жыл бұрын

AirbrushDGart lmao. Whats wrong with that.

nope. dave knocked me out a time or two... if you sifu doesnt hit you , something is wrong... nothing about fear or intimidation, I mean simply put a chinese sifu will fuck you up after a year, most people cant take the training from a real chinese sifu, it hurts too much!

詠春為什麼被其他拳種看不上，就是因為亞洲人power功力太弱，

@yiwip YOU see WSL in this guy? you know nothing about WSL VT then

What is "fake teaching"?

yea, super human, masonic , alien with esp and speed tricks... fucker can probably teleport is 'it' had too!

right here, this guy is sooooo wrong its funny. Pak sao is Pak sao, its what its meant to do.... slap a punch (redirect) it out of the way (by a half inch if it has to be) and then punch with your other paw ... lol People like this poster show that they have no clue of fighting of whats going on by saying things like this...

alabamawingchun . com Yeah, this is a shameless plug for my SiFu, but we're out of the Duncan Leung/Dave Meadows lineage.

Cheater? HAHAHAHA Hack On

This is no wing chun..