Winding a Ultra Linear Single Ended Output Transformer 6K,10K,12K to 4, 8 Ω

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I decided to wind a pair of output transformers for my next tube SE amplifier build. I will be using a pair of NOS 809 DHT tubes!, Here you can see me winding a 30W transformer and some of the steps it takes to that, along with the distortion and frequency response test. I will be posting another video soon of potting and finishing options!

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  • @RobertHallIV
    @RobertHallIV Жыл бұрын

    For the life of me, I'll never figure out why the audio industry has all but abandoned the use of almost any transformers in audio circuitry. For starters (pun intended), in the audio input section, a 600:600 ratio isolation transformer is like magic. Literally eliminates all ground and spurious noise. In the final output section, God forbid your output transistors short and supply bias DC voltage to your speaker cabs. You'll be replacing voice coils. Whereas, a transformer to deliver the signal to your speakers, transformers do not pass solid DC voltage. Problem solved.

  • @pouyan225

    @pouyan225

    9 ай бұрын

    I guess like most things in our times, it comes down to one word: Money

  • @shamimahmed4556

    @shamimahmed4556

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@pouyan225Yes. It's money that counts. Nobody is going to pay for durability and use and throw method is adopted. In terms of high-end and quality still prevailing in India. Stranger, Ahuja, Philips India still making mfg transformer based PA amplifiers although costly.

  • @jmikronis7376

    @jmikronis7376

    3 ай бұрын

    @@shamimahmed4556, yep, overall cost is the god they worship and where the gold ($) flows in from.

  • @jmikronis7376

    @jmikronis7376

    3 ай бұрын

    I’ve started making some hand wound transformers out of salvage units. No, I didn’t buy these units. I’m doing it for myself.

  • @RobertHallIV

    @RobertHallIV

    2 ай бұрын

    @@DonnieLuve I know a little known fact about warm sounding audio like from tube amps. It's not just the tubes that give you the warm, fuzzy. I've found out through research and R&D that transformers on the input and output stages incredibly changes the sound giving it a nice, highly dynamic sound.

  • @jetblakink
    @jetblakink8 ай бұрын

    Mesmerising... Excellent upload.

  • @mariellemademoiselle7303
    @mariellemademoiselle73032 жыл бұрын

    Interesting video! Cool to see how those transformer coils are made. 👍 Im having a cold too, take care of yourself!

  • @brandon.4451
    @brandon.44512 жыл бұрын

    The suspense! I break the wire too often. Nice setup!

  • @vintageaudio7518
    @vintageaudio75182 жыл бұрын

    Nice project! Well done Arash.

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @egermenful
    @egermenful2 жыл бұрын

    It is very informative and detailed explanation. Thank you very much

  • @erikjohnson2976
    @erikjohnson29762 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, very informative. I plan on winding my own output transformers in the future with an audio amplifier, and this video was very informative of the technique. Many thanks.

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad I can inspire and help! Thanks for checking my channel out

  • @henkholdingastate

    @henkholdingastate

    Жыл бұрын

    Where to get the core material is here in Holland a problem

  • @RobertHallIV

    @RobertHallIV

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad someone else has stumbled upon this all-too-forgotten truth about how versatile and necessary transformers play in audio circuitry. I'm developing some things now that I can't figure out why no one else is using. It's a godsend.

  • @rmzidann
    @rmzidann2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video and even better with Barry Lyndon soundtrack!

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @ohmannhey

    @ohmannhey

    Жыл бұрын

    Händel

  • @user-kf6el1xc3b
    @user-kf6el1xc3b Жыл бұрын

    This is real art !!! 👌❤

  • @chrishoffman6537
    @chrishoffman653711 ай бұрын

    Good stuff!

  • @mikemoscaritolo1799
    @mikemoscaritolo1799 Жыл бұрын

    Arash is the MAN :-) !! I found him from this video. I had a very expensive Laboratory Instrument that is End of Life, No parts or service available from the original manufacturer. A Transformer was burned out on one of the boards. I removed it and sent it to Arash. This was a very difficult transformer, completely vacuum coated in epoxy. It took him a long time to remove the epoxy and unwind all of the different voltage layers, counting as he removed each layer. In the end he did a great job. Unfortunately, it fixed the original problem but revealed another problem, so the instrument still is out of service. It was still worth the gamble. His price for the job was reasonable. A used instrument the same age, also End of Life is $6,000. A New instrument is $60,000. Thank You ***AAAA***

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mike! I appreciate your kind words and it was fun hand winding that beast !

  • @Dave_____
    @Dave_____ Жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to the potting and finishing video. Where did you source the winder? I also would be interested in a detailed listing of the parts (and their source) used in the making of this transformer. How did you determine the parameters (wire gauge, turn numbers, air gap thickness, etc) needed? Thanks.

  • @waterfuel
    @waterfuel Жыл бұрын

    I thought that the transformer formula was in metric, such as core square CM. Also gauge of wire formula is as 700circ mils times current times duty cycle. If power not on all times during time period , then the gauge wire can be smaller. circ mils times % duty cycle. Also, if choosing a LARGER core than required, then there is less turns that have to be wound on bobbin because of formula. Assembling a low frequency transformer with E and I laminations can be interleaved, or separated , so as the top I set comes off, so as bobbin quickly removed for rewinding. The separate laminations type requires strap over unit to hold together. The old style radio chokes were like that method.

  • @user-ru5nb6ld6g
    @user-ru5nb6ld6g6 ай бұрын

    Классный станочик!😅😅😅

  • @gmant123
    @gmant123 Жыл бұрын

    Very good job!, I would like to know how test these transformers! Can you tell us please?

  • @dm.2023
    @dm.20235 ай бұрын

    Beautiful! How do you calculate the number of turns per winding for the required impedance, wattage etc?

  • @christopherhines2718
    @christopherhines27182 жыл бұрын

    Thats awesome! What a nice job that would be,sitting home winding custom transformers,to any spec. I wonder what the winding machine and controller costs?I think you could make a good living wage too ! will he talk to us? I am in europe so would not steal any of his customers.I go search transformer winding machine! Or diy home made one to experiment with SE output transformers.

  • @josephcalvet3296
    @josephcalvet32967 ай бұрын

    Arash, I own a high end stereo, 1950s ampeq amplifiers, Fulton j speakers from the late 70s. The input transformer for one of the rtr tweeters is open, I have owned this system since the 1980s, I am reaching 70. Do you know where I can get this repaired or replaced. You do beautiful work by the way.

  • @ultimateservice5796
    @ultimateservice57962 жыл бұрын

    Very good job, great video What equipment/software did you use for testing?

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    2 жыл бұрын

    A good program to use is AP audio precision

  • @jonathanhorne6503
    @jonathanhorne65032 ай бұрын

    Proves my point. I’ve accused you before of having mad skills. What can I say. Point proven.

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    Ай бұрын

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @kristjan181
    @kristjan1812 жыл бұрын

    Hi Arash, can You please share th link for testing program in the end. Thanks!

  • @EngrAbidOrakzai
    @EngrAbidOrakzai2 жыл бұрын

    Dear how to select the exact size of bobin for exact watt?

  • @jmikronis7376
    @jmikronis73763 ай бұрын

    That Kapton tape is a very good material to secure wire with. It has become very expensive. Regular yellow tape is a good second go-to material (inexpensive) to wrap transformer windings with.

  • @ericlane5949
    @ericlane59492 жыл бұрын

    Nice video! Thank you! What is the reason for not alternating the E’s and I’s?

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    2 жыл бұрын

    For single ended application this is how the laminations are inserted to create the air gap needed

  • @ghazalco50
    @ghazalco50 Жыл бұрын

    How did I choose the required wires, what is the approved law, please clarify

  • @bucketlistbeginner
    @bucketlistbeginner2 жыл бұрын

    Great video and channel, where do you get the forms? I’m having a hard time finding small quantities

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    2 жыл бұрын

    The bobbins ? I ordered some from a local company here in LA that makes amps

  • @ericwilson2585
    @ericwilson2585 Жыл бұрын

    I was just wondering if stagger stacking the I's and E's makes any difference in the transformer's response or efficiency?

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably not much, I’ve only seen that method on older laminations with lower Gs

  • @sameerato
    @sameerato11 ай бұрын

    sir. what is software finaly transfomer checked . thanks

  • @mattportnoyTLV
    @mattportnoyTLV2 жыл бұрын

    I need a machine like this. I’m winding mic input and output transformers for line level. M6, nickel, metglas, and MPP. I wind by hand right now. It’s getting exhausting.

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! I also have a hand crank one as well, the cheap ones you can find on eBay from China, I think they are cast iron. those are great for pickups and small coil, but they are really hard on your wrist!

  • @mattportnoyTLV

    @mattportnoyTLV

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ARASHMAFI1 it takes me about 3.5hrs to wind a 1:7 or 1:10. Is there a significant time savings with the machine you have?

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mattportnoyTLV wow, you could wind a dozen in that time

  • @mattportnoyTLV

    @mattportnoyTLV

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ARASHMAFI1 oh, that’s crazy. Sounds like it would be well worth the investment. What are they, like $700 or something?

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mattportnoyTLV yeah that’s the ball park 750-800$ and they are worth every penny, it’s a cnc winder and it’s perfection!

  • @claesmansson9070
    @claesmansson90705 ай бұрын

    No fancy winding machine needed, building one from Lego is possible and it also goes back and forth, video available.

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    5 ай бұрын

    lol perfect

  • @luigigemini4411
    @luigigemini4411 Жыл бұрын

    puoi fare un video come realizzare un trasformatore PP

  • @saeedjahangiri6861
    @saeedjahangiri68616 ай бұрын

    Hi Can I ask from which procedure you use to calculate the number of layers and its arrangement for P and S

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    6 ай бұрын

    Hi Saeed, I highly advice to get the book RCA Radiotron Designer’s handbook fourth edition, this book will have all the math and in depth info

  • @srtamplification
    @srtamplification2 жыл бұрын

    Was the purpose of the paper, just to create the air gap?

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes exactly!

  • @reareochannel4470
    @reareochannel44708 ай бұрын

    cool friend.. What I want to ask is, what size coker (wire housing) are you using in this video???

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    8 ай бұрын

    The size of the bobbin ?

  • @reareochannel4470

    @reareochannel4470

    8 ай бұрын

    @@ARASHMAFI1 Yes, that's right... what size is your bobbin in this video

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    8 ай бұрын

    @@reareochannel4470 if I remember correctly the window of the bobbin core cross section was 63mmx39mm

  • @nelsongiuntoli1621
    @nelsongiuntoli16212 жыл бұрын

    could you show how set Up the OT for both test?

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    2 жыл бұрын

    I will post a follow up video that will go through the process throughly. Stay tuned!

  • @steputube
    @steputube2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! What are the dimensions/wire diameter/turns/material please?

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s all in the beginning of the video pause and take a screenshot

  • @steputube

    @steputube

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ARASHMAFI1 I see only a brief shot of a wire coil.

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@steputube 2:36 pause on it

  • @microlatinamicrocontrol1240
    @microlatinamicrocontrol12409 ай бұрын

    Dear Arash, could you please let me know if this frequency response test shown is being done under working conditions, such as DC bias at the primary of your transformer and also secondary winding load conditions. Thank you !

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    9 ай бұрын

    Yes this was taken under working condition

  • @gabrielpowers766
    @gabrielpowers7666 ай бұрын

    Why the paper between the two iron casing sections?

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    6 ай бұрын

    Since this is a single ended transformer the core needs to be air gapped so it doesn’t saturate, the air gap can be calculated and measured and added by paper.

  • @christiancavan3033
    @christiancavan3033 Жыл бұрын

    What is the size of bobin you using

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    Жыл бұрын

    If I remember correctly it was designed around EI114 core

  • @uniteddrones7626
    @uniteddrones7626 Жыл бұрын

    Can I send you a few to repair for me? I have a power supply that hasn’t worked in a year because of a blown transformer an cannot find a replacement

  • @uniteddrones7626

    @uniteddrones7626

    Жыл бұрын

    How can I find ur email? I messaged ur instagram

  • @Edgarbopp
    @Edgarbopp2 жыл бұрын

    So jealous. Ha!

  • @bradnailer2440
    @bradnailer2440 Жыл бұрын

    At least now, I know I can’t do it.

  • @derlissi9754
    @derlissi97549 ай бұрын

    Great video, but the music is not necessary

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    9 ай бұрын

    Sorry you don’t like the music but It was playing in my living room during the shoot, and I didn’t want to spend 6 hours winding in silence…

  • @notegoodluck3546
    @notegoodluck35462 жыл бұрын

    Do you sell on eBay?

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Right now I am not selling transformers and sorta only making them for my own projects, but I am open to custom orders if you need any made !

  • @notegoodluck3546

    @notegoodluck3546

    2 жыл бұрын

    I want a way to contact

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@notegoodluck3546 arashmafi1 atttt gmail d0t com

  • @notegoodluck3546

    @notegoodluck3546

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you .

  • @borisj4054
    @borisj40547 ай бұрын

    No real information here. Ion area/volume or turns / volt info. Not able to duplicate.

  • @ARASHMAFI1

    @ARASHMAFI1

    7 ай бұрын

    My intention wasn’t to make a video for others to duplicate, it was to show how I go about winding a transformer.

  • @vic2rshpakoff
    @vic2rshpakoff2 ай бұрын

    Всё плохо,... Можно сделать лучше, например kzread.info/dash/bejne/maeO1KWLqMy7etY.htmlsi=lP0G5toxYhtlvp6M

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