Since maths is just a contraction of mathematics, we keep it plural. That's how I've always understood it anyway.

@theprotractor0379

8 ай бұрын

This explanation never made sense to me because nobody calls economicS "econs", they call it "econ".

@MoominDoogie

8 ай бұрын

​@@theprotractor0379As far as I know, economics isn't shortened over here (UK) and in 45 years, I've never heard anyone say econ. We just use the full word. I can see your logic though.

@irreverend_

8 ай бұрын

@@theprotractor0379 As someone already mentioned, I've never heard economics shortened in the UK either. Maths really is the only subject I can think of which is. Other than initialisms

@benjammin9471

8 ай бұрын

​@@theprotractor0379 it's like the difference between your kid and your kids. One is a single part of a collective group

@damienyoung751

8 ай бұрын

​@@theprotractor0379nobody calls it econ either

This is one of the best WILTY reaction on KZread. Jodie’s prolonged silent laughter was too good. 😂😂😂

Romesh is a much loved comedian in the UK with a somewhat grumpy, dead-pan delivery. The guy on the other team who said "education's loss was showbusiness's gain" was Jack Dee who has had a very long career with the same style of comedy. Their misanthropic attitude resonates with a lot of Brits! 😂 I recommend looking for stand-up clips from both comedians.

@Isleofskye

8 ай бұрын

I was about to say that if they thought Romesh was deadpan then they should have seen Jack tell a tale:)

@rikspilz4991

8 ай бұрын

New word added to my brain --- thank you.

@Isleofskye

8 ай бұрын

Pleasure but which one,my friend?:)@@rikspilz4991

@urbandruiduk9928

7 ай бұрын

Much loved? Not one person I know can stand him

@elvisleeboy

7 ай бұрын

​@@urbandruiduk9928Your two friends don't represent the entire population.

Romesh is excellent.. He also does a great show with his mum.

Yeah that's Romesh's style, His stand up is top draw. And you had the joy of two of our best dead panners in Romesh and Jack Dee in this one too.

We say 'maths' because there are different types of 'Mathamatics, ie algebra, geometry etc, Mathematics is a count noun in British English so logically maths is correct to UK, so we British say it correct (as always), love you guys, happy xmas from Liverpool and yes, Romesh is a comedien.

@quinnerefc

8 ай бұрын

UTFT 😉

@AlBarzUK

8 ай бұрын

Where the Yanks make a mistake is not calling it ‘mathematic’ so the abbr would make sense. 😁

@MrToffeedave

7 ай бұрын

U T F T

@b3564

4 ай бұрын

Toffees to stay up hopefully, my kids team, tried so much to keep him a Villain but didn't work!

He's always serious like that. He's very deadpan and sardonic, and funny as heck!! You guys have to check out some more from him.

Mathematics is plural, so the word maths is correct: ""The word Mathematics was first used in English in 1581, coming from the Latin word Mathematica. Since the -a suffix in Latin denotes a plural, the word was automatically pluralised when translated to English, even though the word itself is always used as a singular.""

We say maths because there's more than one part to it - addition, subtraction, algebra etc. so it's a plural. You should check out Romesh's appearance in UK's 'Taskmaster'

@polycrystallinecandy

8 ай бұрын

That's no reason at all - arithmetic has a hundred different areas too, probability, combinatorics, entirety field of number theory, etc. and it doesn't have an s.

@TheycallmeMrWonka

8 ай бұрын

​@@polycrystallinecandyIt's a perfectly sensible reason. For any Intelligent person to pretend and say "no reason at all" blows my mind. You may not want to have an s there, debate away, but saying no reason is just a bs statement to make.

@8outof10catzDOOM

8 ай бұрын

Maths is a shortened form of mathematics.

@polycrystallinecandy

8 ай бұрын

@@TheycallmeMrWonka I am specifically refuting the reason that OP gave - that something involving multiple parts must have an s, and I gave a counterexample. I call it "maths" too, but not for that reason.

@firstsurname7099

4 ай бұрын

@@polycrystallinecandyarithmetic is a fundamental branch of mathematics but you're not being kosher in suggesting that it includes probability, combinatorics or number theory and shiz - you can use arithmetic operations to solve probs within those branches, but they are not 'areas' of arithmetic, any more than a supermarket or a swimming pool or a casino or NASA is areas of arithmetic... had you said that extraction of roots, logarithms, exponentiation were areas of arithmetic or at an even more of a conceptual stretch, binary arithmetic and matrix arithmetic (or the arithmetic of matrices is that gonna confuse the plurals even more) I'd have let that pass but given Rom's story is about tryna explain probability and it seems you've misunderstood the basic concept of probability as being part of arithmetic I have to call ya out. Soz.

Maths is an abbreviation of Mathematics. Since Mathematics covers different types of Mathematics, it's just Logical to use the abbreviation Maths with a plural. Romesh Ranganathan is my favourite Comidean and his stand up at the Apollo is just hilarious. Stereotypical British Dead Pan humour at its best.

Always assumed it was maths because it was the triumverat of arithmetic, geometry and algebra.

Maths and Math is right up there with aluminium and aluminum as the number one annoyance for us . As Jack Dee said Teachings loss is comedy gain , Romesh is very funny with a deadpan humour you might like to check out Taskmaster and " tree wizard " . He's a had his own shows and his mum is often involved . Looking at WILTY it's surprising how many comedians started out as teachers , well done for getting this one right .

@jordizee

8 ай бұрын

Aluminum and aluminium..spelled different.

@DavidSmith-cx8dg

8 ай бұрын

So are math and Maths - not necessarily wrong , just a totally different expression of the same thing - especially if British kids pick up on it .

@insidiousbeatz48

8 ай бұрын

I've always been of the opinion math is incorrect because it implies its singular when in reality there are many branches of mathematics hence the (s)

@CatsAreRubbish

8 ай бұрын

FUN FACT: Aluminum/aluminium was originally called ALUMIUM (al-loo-me-um).

@DavidSmith-cx8dg

8 ай бұрын

@ insidious beatz48 , I agree we are absolutely logically and grammatically correct , but you aren't going to make half a Continent recognise that . The most important thing is we understand each others meaning .

Well done, Nick. We're all very happy for you today. I say 'math' here in the US now. And 'sports; instead of 'sport' in the UK. So, it works both ways. The 'This is My' segment from this episode had one the greatest jokes in all of WILTY.

Awesome reaction, so funny with Jody cracking up. Maths is the logical abbreviation of mathematics just like comms is the abbreviation of communications, they both cover more than one subject branch

The lesson for your kindergarten teacher friend is always make sure Safe Search is switched on. As you're no doubt aware, our national broadcaster is the British Broadcasting Corporation, or BBC. First time I typed BBC into google I got something I was not expecting. Thankfully no kids were watching.

Love your WILTY reactions 👍👏🏻👏🏻😁🇬🇧

I remember this episode! All I can say is ‘Manhole’. (If you know, you know)

Romesh is easily one of the UK’s best comedians. His stand up is great, and he features or hosts quite a few tv shows like Rob and Romesh (with comedian Rob Beckett) A league of their own Taskmaster (definitely a show you both would enjoy)

Surprised no one mentioned it in the comments below, but you should react to Greg Davies on the Graham Norton show, talking about his teacher stories (Also his WILTY appearances). Love the reaction, great as always.

Wow nick you have saved yourself!! You got one right. Correct strategy by letting jodi say first. Lovely reaction great watching you two so amused

I really enjoy re-watching your reactions Fun

Hi guys, yep love Romesh his slightly angry persona really makes his humour, Love your Reactions (Especially Jodi's!) Cheers Jim, UK🇺🇸✌️🇬🇧👍

I saw Romesh live stand up this summer, you're right in that that's his act, it's a very much an 'I don't give a fuck' approach', and he has a great story about when he was first starting out as a comedian when he was still a teacher. He didn't realise his act had been filmed and put online and his student had blurted out something to him... and from then on, he knew that his student had seen him make a joke about masturbating over a ham and cheese pasty .. He was very good in his stand up and his warm up act was very good, too, had more of an energy about him which was a nice contrast, too. Deffo check out more of him.

Love your wilty reactions, so funny. Do you remember me from your early days

Romesh has a dry sense of humor love it

MISS! MISS! - I see you

Saying "Math" instead of "Maths" is like saying "Sport" instead of "Sports"

@Isleofskye

8 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say that because unless we are taking the pizzicato or "having a laugh" we never say "Math" but "Sport" is often, used,in certain contexts like "Both Joe and Joanna play a lot of Sport" or "Ashley's favourite Sport is Football"" Which Sport do you prefer?" :)

@Damien.Young46

7 ай бұрын

Singular noun.. I'll leave that for you to ponder over

@HalkerVeil

7 ай бұрын

@@Damien.Young46 Actual language and writing have nothing to do with each other. Have fun figuring that out.

Use need to watch romesh stand up😂😂😂 10/10

In the US , Math is a singular field of Science . In the UK , Maths is considered a Science of multiple fields . "Maths" is a plurality , not a contraction of the world mathematics .

You guys are adorable. Your grown up attitude to comments and criticism reflects really well on you and your country.

Rom is a comedian now and very funny 😂 he does a few shows you should watch... A league of there own, (sports show) and Rob & Rom versus....... different types of challenges. I love it when you both can relate to the topic as you always laugh so much 😂

Brilliant clip. So funny. As for the Math/Maths topic, given that in English we call it Maths, the more illuminating and apropos question is why Americans had to be different and use Math rather than the original? LOL

Imagine you had a friend/relative who instead of saying Physics, always said Physic. Amusing the first time you hear it, but really annoying if they keep doing it! 😁

Romesh is hilarious and he is always serious

Romesh is funny. He is a comedian actor ,ex teacher. He also presents a show called for the love of hiphop

maths is short for mathematics, how can it ever become singular? love your reactions by the way.

I hark back to my halcyon days of Grammar School in South East London in 1966 when, aged 12, at the end of our first-year exams,I got 23% in English Literature and received 2 strokes of the cane for getting under "25%". 4 of us failed. The "best" one was Geography where we had a quick 20-question test. and if half of the class got less than 10/20 then the whole class re=took the test and everyone, irrespective of how they did the first time, got a stroke of the cane, for every half mark, under 10/20(Maximum 4 strokes as the Teachers had feelings) on the second occasion. HAPPY DAYZ

He is brilliant. Try the Rob & Romesh V series. Its hilarious. The Rob & Romesh v ballet had me crying laughing. You will recognise Rob Beckett from wilty etc. Both are brilliant comedians. Its worth reacting to all the seasons. They try tennis, weight lifting, sports and all sorts.

We say maths because unlike some Americans, we can do it more than once! 🤣

In the words of the Pub Landlord, we call it maths because we do it more than once.🇬🇧

This was a very funny reaction 😂😂 However I am still waiting for someone to react to my favourite WILTY.....Was David O'Doherty addicted to seeing hypnotists, which also involved a cupboard 🤔 or was it a wardrobe 😂

I grew up in the’80s. Our fifth grade teacher was doing a history lesson and I had a bad case of hiccups. Miss Hardy got annoyed. Without a word she walked behind me and lifted me up, turned me upside down and gently put me back in my chair. I was surprised and my hiccups stopped. I wasn’t hurt or anything and I had a funny story to tell later.

Romesh and his mum are just down the road from me in Crawley, Good local lad. My children and grandchildren went to the school he taught at. My aunt new him as she was a teacher at the school too at the time. Hazelwick school, Crawley

Send the shy, friendless kid into the cupboard to become an alien. He literally alienated the child 🤣

Romesh is so deadpan and funny! His mum is hilarious too as she insults him with such cutting insults.

Seems to be a comedian teacher thing, since Greg Davies once did the same thing - he locked a kid called SatNav in a cupboard for an hour while he went on lunch because he didnt know she was in there until he returned xD

Romesh is a brilliant stand up comedian, very dead pan and miserable, but hilarious.

Ramesh is great at stand up , he mainly talks about being a father

Year 8 in the UK IS Grade 7 in the US. What you call Kindergarten, we call Year 1.

Your 7th grade is our year 8, so same age ❤from North East England ❤️

Well, I'm not watching this video, Miss. 😂😂😂😂

Romesh live at the Apollo is one you should check out. He's awesome!

Arithmetic is singular because its a single branch of the group noun mathematics, or maths

My dad was at school with Romeshs dad in Sri Lanka years ago. His uncle lives in Brisbane, Australia now too.

Romesh is great at deadpan comedy but lets all be clear the king of deadpan is Jack Dee, the other comedian on Davids team.

Jack Dee (Educations loss line) is a comedian who's demeanor is grumpy man , and Romesh' demeanour is normally pissed-off bloke.

Seems to me that opting for either math or maths as a contraction of mathematics is somewhat arbitrary, but once the decision is made you must defend it to the grave.

Arithmetic does not mean Mathematics. Arithmetic” refers to calculations with numbers: 17.9 + 18.32, for example. “Mathematics,” meanwhile, is far broader: it tackles shape, structure, change, and all kinds of quantities It boils my piss whenever someone gets this wrong

Great video 👍You could share with your work colleagues and share the joy.

You should absolutely watch some of Romesh’s stand up. And Greg Davies who was a drama teacher

Romesh does some good stand up about family and his kids --- worth a look ( there are quite a few 10 minute chunks from ( Live at the Apollo ) - just add that in a search. Maths is a contraction of the word mathematics and a plural due to it being a collection of multiple disciplines. I am not quite sure why the s is lost in America.

Australia-> also maths For a great teachers story---- see -----> Ryan Gosling Can’t Cope With Greg Davies’ Ridiculous Story - The Graham Norton

Romesh is really deadpan. He’s also really funny.

In my early days at school we did sums, not sum.

Great Reaction to a fun clip though,I think, for once, the other Panel Members missed a trick because as soon as Romesh said "The cupboard was locked",I , immediately, said "What are the chances?" :)

@misterc5783

7 ай бұрын

Lee had already made exactly that joke.

@Isleofskye

7 ай бұрын

@@misterc5783 On reflection , in the clamour of haste I did not realise that. I have given myself a severe talking to and am seeing this clip with fresh eyes.. My disappointment in myself is immeasurable and no words can adequately express my remorse regarding my inexcusable faux pas. I am mortified that I got to make such a Schoolboy error and I only try to crave your forgiveness for my brief moment of total complete and utter insanity in making this mistake. I have no excuses and I can only apologize, profusely, for my stupidity, once again. You are a good man for pointing this out to me. I'm inconsolable at the moment...

@misterc5783

7 ай бұрын

@@Isleofskye You’ll get over it.

So, in British English, the plural form "Maths" is used as an abbreviation of Mathematics, aligning with the tendency to recognize the subject's broad and collective aspects. Mathematics is a vast and diverse field, encompassing numerous branches and specializations. There are the usual suspects, algebra, geometry, calculus, number theory, set theory, etc. Then you have the applied mathematics like statistics, computational mathematics, mathematical physics, mathematical biology, big data, quantum computing, etc. Then there are the other aspects like risk measurement, economics and finance, operations research, etc. So it's a very broad term that covers many disciplines, theories, and practices. But in American English, they prefer "Math," treating the entire Mathematics field as a singular discipline. This variation in abbreviation practices also illustrates a broader pattern in English, where the inclusion or exclusion of the last letter in abbreviations can depend on multiple considerations, including the word's etymology, but is ultimately shaped by contemporary usage standards and regional linguistic norms. Personally, I prefer 'maths' over 'math'. It's a bit like calling it "pants" instead of "pant". Sure, technically it's one item, but "pants" are short for pantaloons, and those are plural as the name refers to multiple leg covers, (historically, the legs were two separate pieces of clothing). Or saying 'glasses' instead of 'glass' when you're talking about eyewear. Sure, you could argue that 'glass' covers it because it's one item you wear on your face, but then you're just turning a blind eye to the fact that there are two lenses involved. Just like a pair of glasses gives you a fuller view, 'maths' embraces the full spectrum of mathematical disciplines.

I spent a good few days locked in room 101 which was a room for naughty kids and you had to stay there all day even for breaks and dinners

Also Arithmetic is a specific branch of mathematics that refers to counting and adding things up essentially

There’s quite a few comedians that used to be teachers and doctors in the UK

When I was at school, I locked my teacher in a cupboard 😅

The "serious" is indeed his brand of funny.

There are several disciplines of mathematics, it is multifaceted collective of many branches, therefore the shortened version should also be plural. Arithmetic does NOT mean maths it's is a branch of maths. Just like geometry, calculus, algebra, statistics, trigonometry, set theory, probability theory et al. _The study of mathematics as a "demonstrative discipline" began in the 6th century BC with the Pythagoreans, who coined the term "mathematics" from the ancient Greek μάθημα (mathema), meaning "subject of instruction"_

AFAIK, math vs. maths is the same as aluminum vs aluminium - it's a matter of taste. Aluminum and aluminium come from different ideas of how to modify the original term alumium. Likewise, we use "math" because mathematics is a collective noun and there is no such thing as a single mathematic, even in England, I think. They use maths because mathematics is a plural noun that covers many disciplines of calculation. Much like how South Africans call traffic lights "robots," it's just an example of how a language evolves differently when separated by large geographical areas. Neither is "right" and neither is "wrong." They are just different dialects of English.

@Jodi_BoringReviews

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

British English just uses Maths where Americans use Math. Both have logical explanations for why, neither are wrong.

Wouldn’t a better way to teach probability be to just put candy in a bag.

MATH IS singular......Maths is more than one!

In Australia we say Maths too .. I assume it is shortening of MATHematicS using the first part and finishing with the final letter .. and to me mathematics is kinda plural so its shortened version should be too

It’s because Americans consider “mathematics” is a mass noun that takes singular verbs and should, therefore, be abbreviated without the ‘s’ at the end.

I AM SO GLAD YOU ASKED. They call it maths because they say there are many maths. We call is math because the title covers all maths. You know, like how English go out into their yards and stand on the grasses. WHile we stand on the grass. THEY ARE WRONG, WE ARE RIGHT, WE KNOW THEIR LANGUAGE BETTER THAN THEY DO, lol.

Love your reactions. Physic or physics, linguistic or linguistics in US?

Hey hey 😀 Math is a ‘shortening’, while maths is a ‘contraction’. The contraction indicates the plural word. But mathematics is singular in its construction 🤔 They're no longer considered abbreviations, they're words in their own right, like telephone to phone or advertisement to ad. The transatlantic divide is less clear-cut, Lewis Carol's "Alice in Wonderland" (1885) used the word math twice, although he used it as an abbreviation, with a full-stop/period at the end. Language diverges, and "Americanisms are foreign words, and should be so treated" 😄

Its Maths here in the UK

If you want to see deadpan humour, you need to watch Jack Dee. He is the guy who made the quip about a gain for comedy.

The UK version is more logical. Math is an abbreviation of mathematics, which is a count noun in British English because there are different types of maths (geometry, algebra, calculus, etc.) and a mass noun that happens to end in an 's' in American English (like gymnastics in both dialects).

For another WILTY teacher story Guz Khan has a good story.

Maths is because Mathematics is plural. The reason for this is because there's not a single "mathematic". There's multiple sciences under the mathematics umbrela, for example Arithmetics (it doesn't means maths, it's one kind of maths), Calculus, Probabilistics, Category Theory, Set Theory, Algebra, etc... Romesh's comedic character is this grumpy guy in the verge of anger, so he's basically just staying in character, which he often does.

OFSTED, in case you're wondering, is the independent inspection body that rates our schools, My wife is a teacher, and they all dred OFSTED turning up.

3:13 you've answered your own question

Maths is literally she shortened from of mathematics.

he's a pretty well known comedian. So the others, knowing the competition, would know that he was a teacher once or that he was lying about it.

So Romesh is is very much a dead pan comedian with a grumpy old man style. The other male comedian there was Jack Dee, master of the deadpan grumpy old man style, so I'm sure Romesh wouldn't mind the joke, as he's probably an inspiration of his. Check out more Jack Dee if you get bored ;)

You need to see the manhole clip from this episode, it's very funny.

Romesh on one side, Jack on the other. It's a deadpan-off.

Mathematics is a multi discipline field of science and therefore needs the plural case. Maths is just the abbreviated form, but still needs to be plural.

More than one type of mathematics therefore maths, i totally get this. But also... "Sport" singular wat

Both Math and Maths are correct of course. By the way, love your Christmas jumper Jodi.

It took a serious teacher to break Nick's WILTY curse! Next week Lee Mac will be back stating he cooked a giant dumpling in his nanna's coal oven and Nick won't know what to vote! lol Brilliant stuff and yep Romesh has some good standup, the guy can laugh, but plays it serious oh so well!

His surname is pronounced exactly how it's spelt. Ranga...Nathan (as in the first name)

we use maths because there are more than one form included, geometry. algebra, trigonometry and calculus. hence plural....Arithmatic is a subject on its own.

Check out Romesh's stand up. He's hilarious.