What do YOU think about these prerelease test results for William Wallace? 🤔 Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE for more Rise of Kingdoms content!

@pound4pound380

28 күн бұрын

I think developers tested Wallace with 20% and took it away. If he had 20% instead of 10% he'd probably dominate the archers

@gmoney845

28 күн бұрын

Using horn on Liu Che is a waste as demonstrated in a lot of rage video

@hanszel8290

28 күн бұрын

Of all the tests why would you miss Scipio Liu vs Scipio Wallace boggles my mind. I think that’d be the one of the first things everyone wants to see

@fenfen1710

28 күн бұрын

God, stop testing commanders through this already. just wait for them to come out. you'd better fight like you did those useless videos

@pound4pound380

28 күн бұрын

@hanszel8290 I saw that test on another channel and Wallace / Lui Che destroys it. You noticed as soon as he switched to smite tree even Huo / Belisaurius Prime took L's a bit more. That smite tree is some serious shit. Everyone clamoured over the 40% damage putting Lui Che as prime.

They should have made Wm Wallace look more like Mel Gibson.

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

LOL

@decentrik

28 күн бұрын

Totally agree

@AzzamAbuJbara

28 күн бұрын

Couldn’t agree more and he should be rally guy and scipio for open field

@hurenfeind

28 күн бұрын

Like they did with lapu first, where he was actually the Rock? 😂 Would love to know why they changed him

For the scipio/liu vs Liu/ww it’s also good to note that Scipios entire 4th skill doesn’t work against that pair, and scipio/Liu has massive amounts of skill dmg reduction in support tree, which is also useless against Liu/ww

Sick video bro. Keep it up. Loving the fresh haircut too

I love that world of warcraft music in the background. Elwynn Forest hit me with nostalgia and gave me goosebumps 🥰

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

It’s soooo good 🙏🙏

Yo Omni thanks for the video and the info ! Im close to expertise Liu Che and the pairing with William looks great if the smite tree is actually that good, I'm gonna keep my Liu Che Alex for now though, it works great still and perform really well on field , I'm only running 1 inf army so I think its enough for now , thanks for the video again , much appreciated man!

I like the Warcraft music in the background. It’s a nice touch.

I think I will be sticking with Scipio for the time being. Thanks for all the information and the time you invested on testing WW and making this video bro!

@FroobyPebbles

28 күн бұрын

Which one? 🤣

Hey Omni I got a question, I’m a returning player and I have just unlocked lui Che, I have a 2111 scipo should who should I max first?

17:06 NICE lmao

My early feel for this is that if you already have most of the top infantry commanders already, you can skip Wallace. If he was a primary commander that was equal to LC or better, then I would say go for it. But to be forced to fully max Wallace in order for him to replace other decent commanders, that seems like too much investment for the return. Just my two cents...

@zestfanboy3188

28 күн бұрын

Yep. If you just entered SOC and haven't maxed Alex, investing in WW is better. But if you already have maxed Alex plus both of his museum buffs, i don't see why you should invest in WW

@MrKleju

28 күн бұрын

@@zestfanboy3188what about YSG and ZL ? I have YSG expertised with 2 museum buffs soon will be 3, still not worth investing into ZL ?

@zestfanboy3188

28 күн бұрын

@@MrKleju yeah it’s worth. It’s just that you won’t see Archer wheel until kvk 3 is almost over

@MrKleju

28 күн бұрын

@@zestfanboy3188 im not talking like kvk3 stuff, Im about to enter my 8th kvk with Scip LC Nev Joan and Boudica YSG. Ive been denying ZL for soo long but I just found out his rage gen is even better than LC with extra attack if you hit multiple targets with ZL (expertise skill gives you 30 rage per target hit)

@TheLarknessMonster

28 күн бұрын

@@MrKleju Zhuge is game changing. I almost trade 2:1 on avg in field with herman/zhuge. Gorgo/Liu for comparison trades 1.53, herman/zhuge 1.91. Boudica/YSG 1.42. All have 8/8 gold gear all iconic with 3 crits.

Your content is insane. Thanks bro!

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

Thank you! 😁

As a cav main I think it’s completely fair infantry gets “stronger” new commanders then cavs. We got it good as it is, we don’t need to be god tier every kvk

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

Cavs are very good

@user-gi1sm5fi2t

28 күн бұрын

Infantry and archery are very gud too they have more aoe

@Simon-22

28 күн бұрын

@@user-gi1sm5fi2tthat’s literally what the comment said.. it said inf is better than cav😂

@PsykhoPanda

28 күн бұрын

Yea but inf and archers are better at the moment ​@Simon-22

@darklighter9750

28 күн бұрын

nothing beats cava mobility, whale use 7 march cava for hit and run, no one stops them

i want to run 2 inf marches. do you think skippy/ww and gorgo/lc will be fine? my guan is 3111 and i would rather not work on him.

@hiroshima99

28 күн бұрын

yea skip guan n work on ww. for newer player should skip guan entirely unless for older player that invested guan long time ago.

I don't think William will be as broken as Liu Che!

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

Definitely not unless the smite tree is broken

@XanderROK

28 күн бұрын

​@@OmniarchOfficialthe rally is another story

@ramos_pinho117

28 күн бұрын

This cicle is decent/good lapu is meh good for whales citys. Belli people trashed him he is pretty decent outside the mobility tree he does fine. Wallace mid/decent gonna say equal powercreep like belli. P We can t have broken commanders all the time

@Bearforce2

28 күн бұрын

What about scipio prime?

@cmlcml415

28 күн бұрын

@@Bearforce2 I still prefer Scipio Prime over WW if it is murderball fight

Saving my heads for new archer commanders 🙈

@PsykhoPanda

28 күн бұрын

I said the same thing lol

@MatthewCervantes-kl3dk

28 күн бұрын

saving for next rotation of cavs smh

@cmlcml415

28 күн бұрын

@@MatthewCervantes-kl3dk Beli Prime 2.0 incoming 😂🙈 (just kidding)

Maybe testing without the horn or ring would be a better control in these experiments.

Hey Omni, Is Liu Che's expertise did get a change ? 😮

I guess it's all fairly vague as long as we don't know anything about his possible cooldowns or if Lilith just changes something before they release him...

Creo que hasta que no salgan los talentos de Willian esas son las mejores referencias que vamos a tener liu primario Willian secundario. Gracias por el vídeo 👍

Next commander release will be cav or archers you think ? I am about to enter kvk 3 and I really don’t know what to invest in as cav main

@dh9u

28 күн бұрын

Archers next

my man I am subscribed thanks for the content🫡

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

Thanks!!

For the 1st time in a long time. Im getting excited about ROK again. Lots of commander changes and updates. And it looks like the employees at Lillith are actually starting to listen to the people who play the game. That by itself is huge. The next few months will be very telling. Seems like there is a chance for things to start getting balanced out. And that could really change how the games played. Only time will tell though. Lillith has a horrible track record for making good things bad. Lets hope they are starting to make the needed changes to start correcting all the stuff they screwed up. Until then. Thanks for all the hard work bringing us the newest latest info. We appreciate you brother.

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

Thank you! 😁 I’m excited as well!

If we have scipio Alex and lui che, what would be the best pair there... I also run nevsky/joan and zhuge/herman...

As a new player that doesnt have any SoC commanders, should I invest in William W first or Liu Che?

@jonval3136

17 күн бұрын

@@ricardomartins3791 LC

Is Guan/Alex still viable and usable??? I don’t mean meta, just usable. If not I may switch my Liu from my Skippy to Alex and use Guan/Scipio. I love Scipio/Liu and I don’t want to separate them 😅

What was most interesting to me about these reports is cav did as good or better than Scipio LC against LC WW. But they also have more aoe so there's that...

Wm beeing primary for dueling obviously w. Not only the march got smite talent tree, his 3rd skill will almost always trigger by wm active skill which is more damage factor than LC

i love your haircut

Greatest glory + dagger is arguably much better than ring + horn for this march. Like you say you dont need horn with LC expertise, having the greatest glory instead is basically 5% all damage. As for the dagger vs ring, its much more debatable, but probably similar overall

We need new testing now since you know the smite talent tree

Best duelling pair is actually Babur Gajah btw

@Mr.sebas08

22 күн бұрын

lol yeah you're right mr siege

@MrSiegeOfficial

22 күн бұрын

@@Mr.sebas08 of course I’m the only one that’s tried it though haha

So do you think for 1 inf march scipio liu che is still the way to go?

@MoaazAhmad2005

28 күн бұрын

Yes

New vid? Let’s get it!

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

LETS GOOO Pog

I still have attachment with my Alex LC and Guan Scipio. So I'll just unlock William. Lol.

How many museum relics does Guan Yu have in the simulations?

5 views in 0 seconds? You’ve fallen off 😔

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

Such fall off smh

Cant wait until he comes out. Gonna be fire with smite talent tree

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

Agreed!

Next time try ash/ysg. on field it's the 2nd best archer march. But also not a dueling march as a double aoe😅

Yo how bout a best kvk rankings list 😎

Could you use Martel in the tests in the future ? I see Boudica ysg is not that bad. We always have non meta marches which are still efficient. It's interesting to see the reports as well to decide if it is worth it to invest or not

@johnsonwu3001

28 күн бұрын

Totally agree. Wallace lacks stats, and Martel is the perfect stat stick. There will be a lack of AOE tho

@ramos_pinho117

27 күн бұрын

Ysg has 1.7k aoe and 50% skill damage buff with even for soc is good. Now martel is a punching bag. No damage output. Try pyrus could be decent

i hope he will be good open field

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

He will be!

In my case, I'm going to max WW and replace Alexander, just because I already skipped Huo and Beli, so I have 830 GH, but the commander I wanted to replace was Guan, I was waiting for Sun Tzu prime to pair with Scipio

@najh1997

28 күн бұрын

No more prime commanders coming bro

That’s why I don’t trust simulator cuz the counter troops type ain’t make that difference in the game I can’t understand how you didn’t notice that 🧐

Nev/joan or HQ/joan going into KvK3? First march

is he like the Joan to my Nevsky for Liu Che? 🥰

Judging by my experience, it's a whole bunch of stuff that must be considered. It's not only about commander's talent tree n skills, it's also about gear (most of f2p have probably iconic gear only), armaments (for almost a year the armaments are bunch of garbage, there's no chance to get armamnet with 3+ % of stats), crystal tech and city skin. Even tho I maxed liu che relatively early, I never got spectacular reports during kvk, which means I spent a tons n tons of rss n speedups to keep up with whales. I guess if one wants to be a badass one needs to swipe the card, Lilith obviously won't allow peasants to rule the game.

I dont want big alex to go lol also have you tried guan scipio vs scipio alex

My ways to level the playing field….archers should be the only ones with AOE, infantry should be the only ones with instant proc, and cavs have insane speed so people can never run away. Because they have spread out some of these attributes among all troop types, none of them are special.

One v one testing is a bit biased. Even in game you can't properly gauge the power due to armaments and proc'ed equipment. Still, this is an informative video. Keep it up

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

Agreed, and thanks!

IMO as someone with a maxed Alex and Liu Che. It’s better to just run that and keep Liu primary then invest in WW and losing out on 690 Sculps.

@Simon-22

28 күн бұрын

Agree you should not invest

@MoaazAhmad2005

28 күн бұрын

No I actually think If you have alex maxed already you can still use him and get good results .. If you run 2 infantry marches you might invest in WW but if you run only one march stick with leu che / alex

Liu che's 1 v 1 rok simulator results were also very average, but we also knew he would accel in field with 5 target smite AOE. I do think WW will perform better than his test results in the field, but not to the level that Liu che performs in the field.

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

Agreed, LC will be better

@Simon-22

28 күн бұрын

Will he tho? He has no AoE nor instant proc.

Cav set do only 2 piece, kvk helmet and weapon for cav

Probably that the smite tree will make all the difference.

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

I think so too

I think u should focus on the commanders most of us have. Lui Che Alex Scipio2 Zhuge hermann Boudica YSG xy Aeth Attila these are the commanders most of the non MGE lucky guys have. Belly prime huo Ash Gorgo are not skilled up even if summoned. I doubt i would ever replace an AOE guy with single target guy. I am going to wait and see on Wallace and Scipio3

Has anything new happened to Saladin

If it doesnt have the full tree we dont know yet

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

Of course in-game testing is needed! He'll be great for inf mains regardless

@woutgaming9685

28 күн бұрын

Yep it will be exciting

@woutgaming9685

28 күн бұрын

But the alternative tree is probably pretty accurate so lets see

Wallace is basically Nevsky for infantry. Wallace/LC will probably be the best singular march in the game imo

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

Wallace seems more like Huo to me. Doesn’t have good stats like Nevsky and doesn’t have a debuff like Nevsky

@ramos_pinho117

28 күн бұрын

Closer to Hou single target no debuff. But the stats is not even close to hou

Itink huo did better as he could possible cycle faster for lower rage requirement before lc 4th skill reduced all damage by 10% making a slightly harder hitting march sometimes and sometimes lc would isntant prop skite and apply the debuff

Well looks like I’m staying a cav main after all 😅

What about Huo/Nevsky?

as an infantry main Im still not sure if I want to invest or not🤔

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

I'm gonna get him most likely, just wanna see the smite tree!

@Simon-22

28 күн бұрын

Wait for Ingame testing and then decide

U crazy omni he's a beast not average

Can you test Wallace/Gorgo as well?

@RoKD2208

28 күн бұрын

Hope gorgo/WW in garrison is better than ww primary on the field😈

puoi mettere il link del simulatore per i test

@marcomanti1125

24 күн бұрын

è una app a pagamento

When does he get released?

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

No release date yet

your right. watched you couple dozen times and wasn't subscribed. Good work. Cheers!

@OmniarchOfficial

Күн бұрын

@@Skythetreeguy-h8l Thank you! 😁

2 pairing !! It doesnt have huo 30 sec cool down

Gorgo is underated in this test. I'm running gorgo liu on the field and the results I get is amazing, more than my other troops incl zhuge hermann🤔

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

Interesting, I found she performed about as good as Alex but was slower

I forgot to tell something We tested Grogo/Liu Che vs Liang/Herman and in average Gorgo/Liu Che won with 30k troops remaining Now look at simulator! You think Liu Che/Wallace is worst than Gorgo/Liu Che? Wallace actually lost to Liang/Herman with more than 70k troops remaining😂 Very very very unreal

If you read the skills, it seems WW is slightly better in every skill than LC. Which is nuts

@zkx2417

27 күн бұрын

But overall + expertise Lc is better 🤷‍♂️

@AzzamAbuJbara

27 күн бұрын

For me the 10s cooldown in his skills make him just ok commander

He is just as I expected him to be, average. I'm tryna convince a friend of mine to not invest on him coz she alr got 2 maxed inf marches and she is willing to keep using Boudica/Zuge instead of investing on Hermann so she can invest on William Wallace, which I think it's just dumb

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

Will all come down to in-game results. Too early to tell if they should invest or not

@gatete_sobre_una_sandia

28 күн бұрын

@@OmniarchOfficial Considering she's using Liu/Alex and Guan/Scipio and hasn't got the Zuge/Hermann, I don't think she can justify investing on Wallace over Hermann

What about William Alex?

Where's Hou/Nev's Vs liu/William lol

What we can do with Gorgo now?? Gorgo/Alex??

@bimatriasbela7249

27 күн бұрын

Gorgo not suppose going on open field

Its looking like inf wil counter inf

My theory is Wallace isn't a new "meta" rather a "counter-meta" against all the liu che marches out due to his normal damage taken reductions. These reports just further confirm this for me.

Greatest Glory?

I want to play the game but it's so boring as a free to play i always get destroyed by people who spend money on the game 💔💔

So another big Hollywood name in Wallace that does nothing in the game Line him up with ceaser for the next museum buff if these reports play out this way

My only question is who will i run in my second inf march now. Ww/LC for one but guan sux now days and ive never heard of anyone running scip with gorgo

@MrRivalul

21 күн бұрын

Now I run LC/Sarg and Guan/Skippy. If WW that good will pair him with Gorgo. See how that goes as third inf march.

Goose Wing Head 😅

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

LOL

Archersyndicate did many tests WW/LC vs. all meta marches and WW/LC were destroying all marches.

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

Yeah I said in the WW primary section of the video that it's good

@ramos_pinho117

28 күн бұрын

Smite tree is not out yet. So can t be so reliable

Hey bro what about Wallace and Sargon

I'm sorry bro! It has already been proven that the in-game test results are completely different from this simulator. For example, pay attention to the test of Pyrrhus in the simulator and in-game. That's why I find this video a bit unhelpful

Huo - Nevsky?

@OmniarchOfficial

26 күн бұрын

@@darthvader7672 slightly worse than Huo/Beli

What does proc mean

@MoaazAhmad2005

28 күн бұрын

Damage

@dh9u

28 күн бұрын

@@MoaazAhmad2005 what does it stand for though

Is he like the new Sargon? I'm very wary of single target commanders for open field

@zkx2417

27 күн бұрын

Nah he’s pretty good. Skills talents damage etc

@AzzamAbuJbara

27 күн бұрын

The problem with sargon that the skill damage doesn’t fired as one unit but it’s divided over time which give his enemies huge edge on him , there are a lots of single target commanders performing very will in open field But the really down side with this commander the 10s cooldown on his skills !!!

I was almost certain that I was subscribed... and when I checked... I was... :|

Gorgo - Wilian W???

What even is smite damage?

@MoaazAhmad2005

28 күн бұрын

Some type of damage that depends on normal damage

@Bearforce2

28 күн бұрын

@@MoaazAhmad2005 what does smite damage do though like how does it work

Man no disrespect but have you ever tested rok battle simulator compared to reality? I did, has no relevance when it comes to real results. All these tests have 0 value.

why France? just wondering.

@OmniarchOfficial

27 күн бұрын

@@user-bi5yd3vc5p best open field civ for infantry that don’t rely on skill dmg

So we should invest or not?

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

Bro didn't watch the video lmao

@cmlcml415

28 күн бұрын

Unlock and wait for the actual testing to decide is always the safest move

@barry8692

28 күн бұрын

😂

@REVENANT-77

28 күн бұрын

@@OmniarchOfficial yes,I hadn't because I commented on first second of upload,you wouldn't have made this comment if you had seen that👍

👏👏👏👏👏

Test 5 vs 1

Did you see the change they made to Liu Che's specialty?

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

No change, only text change

@joaotelesdemenezes3906

28 күн бұрын

it couldn't have been a change just in the text! his damage reports have gotten a lot worse

Wallace/ Constantine??? Wallace/Alex???

I question the accuracy of the sim. I have and use it, it isnt as accurate as I would want. I suspect he will be better. I was expecting better duel results. I never expected WW to break field meta. Field meta is 14 commanders, so its hard for 1 commander to break meta. As analyzed in plotos stream, WW lacks AoE and a debuff. That’s a big deal. I do however expect the rally commander to break the rally meta.

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

Simulator is much more accurate now than it’s ever been, but duels don’t reflect real world performance

It makes no sense to use Ottomans in 1v1 for cavalry, it is used for open field because it is the most complete but it does not mean that it is the best for cavalry

@OmniarchOfficial

28 күн бұрын

But it’s what people use, and the point is to test what people actually use lol

@km0rra

28 күн бұрын

@@OmniarchOfficial if you have 3 cav, 1 arch and 1 smite inf march maybe you must re think that. or 2 inf, 1 smite inf, 1 arch, 1 cav