Will Threads Kill Twitter?
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In this clip, Marques tells Andrew and David what Threads is like seeing as he had early access to the app for a few days before anyone else did!
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For threads, give us a tab ONLY for people we follow and ONLY in chronological order. There's no way in hell I'm using it daily if it's tied to an unavoidable algorithm page
@abstrktionLair
11 ай бұрын
that's already confirmed to be on the roadmap
@r4ultra
11 ай бұрын
Seriously same
@ss_avsmt
11 ай бұрын
Without algorithm and promotion and ads, these platforms don't work. Even KZread has a subscriptions tab, yet people stick with recommendations. Their algorithm's purpose is to make recommended indistinguishable with who you follow.
@stevedoesnt
11 ай бұрын
When the world stopped getting a chronological FB feed... Im convinced that that was the highest point of enjoyable, somewhat not totally unhealthy social media. That's the point in which all of these things around us started crumbling.
@beas_spanish_class
11 ай бұрын
Welcome to the world of social media where they are trying to keep you on the app for as long as they can. If you don’t pay for the product, you are the product
They want too much access "data from the user",and if you decide to delete the account you won't be able to,unless you delete your Instagram account
@n0nenone
11 ай бұрын
Ohhh damn this is bad
I like how the fact Threads is still banned in the EU is just scoffed at like... Are people really so used nowadays that Meta will just profile you and sell your personal information that we are just... ok with that? Like I get that as YTers you are already publicly open and all that but you must know that this means something to your audience at least. This is a super worrying trend that needs to be discussed here.
@Polkadot2
11 ай бұрын
Exactly! The way people have moved to acceptance of all their privacy being eradicated and sold on social media is outstanding.
@barnaclegoose2854
11 ай бұрын
I would rather have ads than pay for a service. twitter is becoming more and more unusable unless you pay. And the gdpr ban in EU is actually less about selling your data and more about how threads shares your information from instagram.
@Shzl47
11 ай бұрын
The answer is yes
@grendel3290
11 ай бұрын
I mean personally I run it in a sandboxed environment and give out as little information as possible, but I recognise that I'm in the minority
@Taylor.....
11 ай бұрын
Does it though the illusion of privacy is over and I mean like it or not nothing you do online is private hell nowhere you go with your phone is private and it's been that way for decades now we don't have privacy we lost it for security and prosecution a long time ago at the turn of the century it just got worse and it's not coming back only false promises and privacy gimmicks that's our reality And to some extent I think a lot of us just don't care anymore nothing I do is illegal and while ik they can maybe find out I'm a minority or got said illness and maybe they tell the gov and cut funding in my area at the end of the day these are kinda stretches and people are going to do malicious things weather or not we keep our business private it's up to our lawmakers and voters to punish bad actors but our privacy it's gone for good
Escaping from Twitter by running to Meta send like the plot of a horror movie. "Don't worry, you're safe now...bwa-HAHAHA!"
@smartbiney801
11 ай бұрын
lol....
@aelixa
10 ай бұрын
Perfect analogy 🤣
I don't think I'm ever using threads, because Twitter taught me that social media in general is pretty toxic to my mental health. I felt way better after I stopped using it and it never brought much positive besides a few things here and there.
@tenslider6722
11 ай бұрын
same here
@xnajx
11 ай бұрын
Agreed. I just deleted my FB and IG.
@kamarae.2444
11 ай бұрын
Same loooool I’m not even interested in creating an account, social media is a mess.
@beas_spanish_class
11 ай бұрын
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 people are sick of how Zuckerberg has changed social media with the algorithm, yet they are willing to download another app run by him 🤦🏻♀️ It’s just funny how he is trying to convince us that *Threads* won’t be like any other app… yeah, FOR NOW!! it will become another time waster with ads and threads we never asked for because all they want to do is to keep you on the app for as long as they can. *if you don’t pay for the product, you are the product*
@southwestkinema9149
11 ай бұрын
This
This video did not age well
I think Threads is FB replacement more than Twitter killer
@B-Moye
11 ай бұрын
Doubt it- and only because people use Facebook for groups heavy. That point about threads having ‘people’ over other twitter alternatives is why I think Facebook is holding on by a…thread. It’s has a solid group presence
@zachbeall6810
11 ай бұрын
It doesn't even compete with fb
@thefakebiker
11 ай бұрын
@zachbeall6810 well FB is fading away isn't it? So Meta knows it's going google plus way so instead of trying to revive it they built this which is bringing both twitter and Insta worlds together. That's just my thoughts I could be totally wrong.
@thefakebiker
11 ай бұрын
@BrandonMoye all I see on fb these days is spam, reason why people aren't using it anymore as frequently. I don't like going there as I see more random spam posts than updates from my friends.
@RohinNair
11 ай бұрын
I've been thinking about where Threads fits into my whole digital diet and the answer I came to was shockingly similar to yours. If it's for pictures of 24 hour only stories, I have Instagram. If it's for following niche creators or having a space away from friends and family, it's Bluesky (and formerly Reddit). Threads I find fills that niche of where I just express myself in text form with the intention of it to be seen by both friends and family - exactly what I used to use Facebook for years ago.
I need another social network like I need another hole in my head. No thanks.
Threads is getting way too much promotion tbh. Are we just gonna ignore that Meta/ Facebook are not to be trusted? This is just another way for them to get their hands on your personal info and probably another bid to eventually drag you into their ecosystem and god forbid, the metaverse.
If you want a censored echo chamber, you use Threads.
@tenshukaku2830
11 ай бұрын
Hilarious that you say that for threads and not Twitter when that is literally what Twitter is for most people
@Johnny2Feathers
11 ай бұрын
Exactly.. threads will be the snowflakes safe space 🤣
@lachlanB323
11 ай бұрын
@@tenshukaku2830 Twitter has free speech so you aren't censored. I get plenty of left and right leaning people AND believe it or not... it isn't actually a hate storm which is surprising for Twitter. Twitter is in a much healthier spot and I have some hope restored for humanity lol. This is just my experience and maybe I am just lucky.
Two things I find with Threads, one is it has Facebook's interesting censoring aka "are you sure you wish to follow this person". The second is it is a separate mobile only app. For most people this probably isn't that big of a deal, but I don't use my phone when I'm on my laptop and don't really consume content on my phone. I could run the app in an emulator, but honestly, I'm not going to do that, other than for business reasons. I'll open a Thread account to advertise an upcoming project, but I cannot see myself using the app for my personal consumption of news and media updates.
@chhoyla
11 ай бұрын
And yet no one wants to talk about Elon’s blanket censorship blocking all news about competitors like Threads and BlueSky, and shoving his own tweets.
@echtogammut
11 ай бұрын
@@chhoyla I haven't seen this, I found out about Threads and got a beta invite on Twitter for it. I continue to get most of my information about Thread updates on Twitter. It could be true for other people, I can only speak for my experience.
@blurey8569
11 ай бұрын
i mean, every app launch always launch their MVP. they'll create a website eventually
@chhoyla
11 ай бұрын
@@echtogammut He can’t quell it all, but he doesn’t let it hit trending
@echtogammut
11 ай бұрын
@@blurey8569 That's very true, I always soft launch stuff on IOS first because it will have the fewest compatibility bugs. It's still annoying for my user flow, which I know isn't the norm anymore. I'm old so I'll take a 45" screen with a real keyboard over 6.5 and predictive text. :) If it had better integration with Instagram, I'd probably end up using it more, because that is the only social mobile app I consistently use. I feel like they left a lot on the table in regards to Instagram, but it's still early so time will tell.
Usually new social media apps, generally have “new car smell”, I remember Facebook when it was new, it was fun place. But Threads honestly give me Google+ vibes. Sure they have allot of accounts, but so did Google+.
@SeanFranchise
11 ай бұрын
Now you've got me missing G+ 🫠
@bradavon
11 ай бұрын
Exactly. Lots of accounts because it's easy to link from Instagram but how many are active, how many realise you can't just delete it later.
@Dakarai_Knight
11 ай бұрын
@@SeanFranchisesame lol
@TheShapeshifter
11 ай бұрын
Google + forced people to make an account. At least with Threads, it's optional.
@avkay12
11 ай бұрын
@@TheShapeshifter I don't think you were forced. It automatically existed because you had a Google account. Same with threads. If you're already on Instagram the "handle" already exists.
Am I the only one who finds it worrisome that we are entering an age where the flow of information and news is controlled by just a handful of tech companies??? Edit: Yes I am aware it's been like this for awhile, my concern is that no one is speaking out against it
@jo-lg.2458
11 ай бұрын
Weve been in that age for years now
@nicholasferrara8028
11 ай бұрын
Threads is decentralized and built on the mastodon protocol, so you can take your following anywhere. So it's not locked in as it was once was.
@AtPlume
11 ай бұрын
Anyone who isn't worried about that is either stupid or just not paying attention.
@PcarNess
11 ай бұрын
Where have you been
@linfitz0761
11 ай бұрын
This just seems to be your perception. Services like Twitter are not to be seen as trustworthy sources for info and news. Trustworthy sources need to publish through their own channels to stay exactly that.
LOL this aged like milk. 😂
I don't get the Elon hate, and it seems like they are just misinformed. Also, I love that he spoke about getting away from a mega-corporation, while using a Chromebook... LMAO. Bruh.
For Threads on iOS Beta 17, there's a workaround to image posting. I copy and paste the photo I need, add my text and post. Works!
I totally disagree that Twitter is more tech based, that just your feed because that’s what you follow and like. Even Twitter’s trends are still curated to your circles and interests
@josevnueva7
11 ай бұрын
I don’t think he meant tech-based as in the content. He is referring to the infrastructure prowess of twitter when it comes to the efficiency of the platform and its ability to be enhanced with new features quickly.
@muralibalaraman
11 ай бұрын
I heard text based , not tech based
@christianpoet7815
11 ай бұрын
@@muralibalaraman Yeah, he said text based..
@OhDeeDoubleU
11 ай бұрын
He said ‘TEXT based’
It's interesting that you guys left out the data mining part. I know everyone is doing it, but it's not allowed in EU because it collects lots more data than everybody else. As far as I understand it even collects health data. I tried to test it, but even with vpn I can not sign up, because it's not in our App Store. Anybody can confirm what kind of access it needs mandatory?
@braukwood925
11 ай бұрын
Meta is a super scummy company in this regard. I like Facebook and instagram at a base level but I refuse to use them because I don’t want to be the product for Facebook. I know all companies do this but Meta is far worse
Not signing up for threads, Zuck wants a monopoly of social media and won’t allow other companies in such a space. I would not buy anything associated to Meta. At least with TikTok you know exactly what you are getting as compared to Instagram, FB or now Threads. I have more faith on Elon than Zuck.
I would like to interject for a moment. Mastodon is not a Twitter competitor. It's an alternative with a very different goal. Thanks for coming to my TED talk
@lexd0g
11 ай бұрын
it also cannot go down, i dont know where he got that, there are a lot of instances, even if some instances happened to go down the whole network cant, it works like the web and email does, its decentralised and federated
@abstrktionLair
11 ай бұрын
yeah I didn't wanna be That Guy and rebuke his "mastodon goes down" claim, but for what its worth he also claimed threads has DMs when it definitely does not have DMs yet
@BooleanDev
11 ай бұрын
@@lexd0g he probably meant the main most popular instance
“80% of Twitter” heck nah. It’s like 50%. No DMs, no organized timelines, no view counts.. it isn’t even close.
Oh yes, Elon owning Twitter is just as concerning as Zuck owning every single social media platform 😂.
@Smi77y1
11 ай бұрын
The hate is real for elon I don’t get it lol
@RM-iu6mm
11 ай бұрын
@@Smi77y1he provides solutions, his haters need a permanent crisis to justify taking away your rights
@southwestkinema9149
11 ай бұрын
@@Smi77y1 Because he embraces hate speech and allows it to thrive on his platform that's why. You asked! I gave you the reason. I don't care either way. I'm just glad there is a Twitter alternative. I wish there was one for youtube.
@braukwood925
11 ай бұрын
@@southwestkinema9149hate speech is included In free speech my friend. No one likes to be hated on but censorship isn’t a better option
@maybethisismarq
11 ай бұрын
@@braukwood925 so what’s your solution to hate speech?
There's absolutely no way I'm using threads. I do not at all agree or want a world where all social media is under one company especially meta. I do find myself slightly excited with some of these "fediverse" alternatives. It feels like when I was young and the social media was new and fresh. Also a good time to take a step back and look at my social media use habits and know I need to slow down.
Twitter > threads
the only winning move is not to play
@franklingoodwin
11 ай бұрын
Yep. Not on either of them or Facebook
@Agostoic
11 ай бұрын
9:50 500 character limit, nearly double that of Twitter.
@tycooperaow
11 ай бұрын
thanks
@lachlanB323
11 ай бұрын
4000 with Twitter Blue. You're mostly reading Tweets not writing them. But if you do then Twitter blue is totally worth it since you get paid now.
Character limit is 500 on Threads
I want to discuss why VERO never took off the way I wished it would.... that app is so beautifully made man. I still have hope for that.
@joys_ads
11 ай бұрын
Yes, would be a good discussion
As for Threads NOT coming to EU at launch I have my suspicions that Meta is using this to push back against strict EU regulations. Even though Meta has repeatedly threatened to pull Facebook from EU due to the new upcoming strict regulations, they obviously know they cannot actually do that. But they can now delay Threads and use this new product to communicate their dissatisfaction with the regulations and have EU politicians rethink while they wish for a Twitter alternative.
@jcloiseau
11 ай бұрын
Makes me even more interesting Into NOT using threads. SM are mostly full of talkative toxic people.
@kevinweyrauch4875
11 ай бұрын
Crazy how they can “rush” a release and everyone just blindly jump in. EU regulation is there for a reason.
@jcloiseau
11 ай бұрын
@@kevinweyrauch4875 that tells you everything you need to know about this shady company. If meta were Chinese owned, they'd be banned everywhere.
@beambreaker300
11 ай бұрын
@@jcloiseaua lot of american companies already behave exactly like chinese companies, there is not really a big difference by now and I’m glad the EU is thinking twice about these things
I don't need threads or more meta in my life twitter is already filling that role well enough for me.
@brunoheggli2888
11 ай бұрын
No
Hmmm. Thread is a No-Way-Out app. There is no way to delete your Thread account without deleting your IG account too.
Hey guys, love this channel
Kind of wish you guys talked about the upcoming federation of Threads! People will be able to use Mastadon and still follow people on threads.
Don't know why I noticed this but Marques's Camera's Resolution is lower than others. First I thought my youtube went to 480p then shifting it to upper resolutions understood that it was with MB's camera and not with YT.
3:00 sociogram, learned a new word today!
What is the relation between Thread and Matter???
it is members of the EU not the whole of Europe. you can get it in the UK so at least Brexit was good for something lol.
Mastodon is a conglomerate of separate servers that are run by different people. It cannot be down as a whole, but the server you are connecting to can be down.
I’m excited for the ActivityPub integration, I’m leaving threads for my own mastodon instance as soon as it launches.
I'm sorry y'all. I must have missed the part where they answered the question - will Threads kill Twitter?
@Zodiacman16
11 ай бұрын
yes it will die in 2 hours say goodbye
in the UK and have threads 11:30 ..i guess we’re not part of the EU anymore 😪
You can definitely post multiple images in a single thread- just that MKB was on the beta version that kept crashing lol
How am I not following y’all on my socials? 😩
The bluesky app never crashes for me so idk what you’re talking about.
It's "Attack On Twitter".
3rd party apps will never be over! Im still using one and it is the only way I will use twitter on my phone. Screw the main app. Also threads is great I love it.
Having recently deleted my FB and IG, I have 0 interest in another Meta product. I understand how social media can work really well for small businesses these days, but there are way too many ads on these platforms. I met a lot of really cool people who were into photography when Instagram first came out, and as soon as Facebook bought them it when down hill. More about making lots of money then the actual community. Thread is just another platform for them to make a lot of money, not about bringing people together. Meta stops people from being creative and coming up with unique ideas for apps as they will just copy it and make it their own. I have more to say but it's already getting too long. 😂
I did used the old Threads app and found it redundant too.
Threads feels like it is just an extension of Instagram. I am sure there will be more features over time, but as of now it's heavy on the corporate and influencer focus. Compared to Twitter where the focus was more on people and ideas, as dumb or smart as those ideas or people may be. The only way Threads felt usable was after I spent a solid 10 minutes just blocking and muting accounts. Hopefully they launch more feature to be able to customize your feed. I still use twitter more than threads for that reason. Much easier access to information and trends.
Thread doesn't allow nudity and NFSW. Thats a major red flag... Twitter is more open platform on so many ways. Even though i hate using Twitter now.
i would still lie to see direct messaging implemented on the threads app and i don't want another app like fb messenger i want it in the same app. but not Shure if they would do this as it would conflict with messenger. and could cause further trouble with twitter
7:35 max 10 photos at a time
Watching this video while also scrolling thru Threads 😅
Never been a twitter user or at least often. I’ve enjoyed threads simply because IG was my main social so the integration was smooth.
@good-tn9sr
11 ай бұрын
yea but it looks like Threads is going to die as 70% of users have dropped in usage, since launch.
threads needs current events
I’m not handing any of my data over to meta
We are using in EU since day one 😁
@leotrimhasani
11 ай бұрын
@@fabio.santos yes in Kosova , app is called - threads, an Instagram app in Play store is released by Instagram 🤔
Only reason threads won't kill off Twitter is because they don't allow porn
@ShazammtheProducer
11 ай бұрын
lol racist close second
@jshooper7819
11 ай бұрын
I've already seen soft core shit on Threads. (Not from who I'm following) If humans are on it, it's going to eventually be sexual.
@franklingoodwin
11 ай бұрын
That's not the only reason. It's because the right-wing already hate Threads. Twitter will become like Rumble soon enough. Everyone will say they're there for free speech when they what they really mean is "we want to own the libs". Tribalism lol
@the.abhiram.r
11 ай бұрын
honestly despite elons ridiculous policies and how people are saying twitter "protects free speech", it is still one of the most lenient social platforms out of the main 4
@Glenhh
11 ай бұрын
@@the.abhiram.rPeople can think about Twitter what they want. But people who cried about Facebook when they allegedly stole the election and now shear on Threads are such pathetic hypocrites… Many democrats hate Elon so much they would rather have corporate Zuckerberg own every single platform in the world. (Not far off now)
I have totally different types of people I follow on Instagram and Twitter, i follow celebrity in insta and political story and people in Twitter but threads is mainly with Instagram where many i follow in Twitter is missing there it a problem right
Uhh there’s no way I’m using threads. Can’t give one company so much data about me
I’m sensing a Google plus future
I never heard about all this other social media mentioned at the beginning of the video… 🤷🏻♂️
What is a thread?
can't get threads. still not allowed in the e.u
How i use social media: 1. Twitter: post complaints to bigger companies and get quick support. 2. Facebook: to buy second hand things. 3. Instagram: to flex and see my friends flexing. 4. Linked in: to post my work achievements, and see how others are progressing in their career. 5. KZread: to get informed. 6. Tiktok: to lough and pause being serious for a minute. If thread wants to replace twitter: it must do what twitter is doing, otherwise it is another instagram.
But how is Threads different than Google+? Or any number of other social networks that went viral and then fell back into the niche world?
It just goes to show how out of touch these elite tech geeks are with other tech users. The app is already dead. 6 min use today. You guys need to speak to real people outside of your bubble.
@churblefurbles
11 ай бұрын
They are "influencers", hugbox advertising platforms appeal to them, obviously boring and useless for anyone else.
It's not that there is no for you page, it's that there is no following page. The home page is the for you page. That's the problem.
The problem with threads is that they don't have the accessibility features that Twitter does. Threads would be so much better if it was more accessible. But that's typical of Meta / Facebook. Such as adding Alt text, in Instagram & Facebook, its hidden & you have to look for it, whereas on Twitter, it's just there. If Meta improved its accessibility features, it'll beat Twitter for sure!
@BradPixelManH
11 ай бұрын
Threads main problem is it steals everything in your life.. even more than the other social netowrks
11:55 SAME LMAOOOO
you can add more than 4 picts fine, at least on android
it does work in the EU!
@15:16 David twitched in a way I've seen someone close to me has, I hope this doesn't come off as insensitive but I genuinely want to know what that is. Thanks
"WHY OPRA" 🤣🤣
14:00 why did I never hear about this?
13:35 threads
"follow us on THREADS it's another one" when there is too many social media sites.
They need to add chat , lives & away to post videos and pictures without having to go through your iPhone Photos App.
I respect how Marques is always the only one who knows how to keep his personal beliefs and opinions to himself and discusses subjects with logical responses and hands-on experience, where as the other guys always like or hate a product based on pre-existing feelings about some outside factor (in this case they like Threads, a product none of the others have even tried out yet, solely because they do not like Elon Musk). It makes me trust Marques's opinions much more than theirs, to the point where I unfortunately don't care about what they have to say.
@supersaiyansoldier1977
11 ай бұрын
It ain't that deep.
@Dubitz
11 ай бұрын
@@supersaiyansoldier1977 it's a reoccurring theme
@zoltankadar9361
11 ай бұрын
There is a reason why you know only one of there names
@akshaybhor6330
11 ай бұрын
Just because he doesn't say it out loud doesn't mean it doesn't influence his opinion
r/agedlikemilk
Nobody uses hive? That's too bad. They're a solid team(of 2 to 5 I believe) and have features Twitter doesn't have like more than 240 characters, free account verification (blue checks), a NSFW handle, no ads.
Why do people need threads ? How much information does the average person have to share with the world ?
@onemorechris
11 ай бұрын
Threads is ‘not twitter. both are pointless
@wavesnowaves
11 ай бұрын
@@onemorechris Yes, I know it’s not twitter. The focus is on threads, hence my comment about threads. But I agree, both are equally unnecessary. They are like solutions to problems that most people don’t have.
You can copy paste photos and it doesn't crash
not moving to threads because no one knows i'm on twitter
Instagram without the pictures?
The thread version of tweeting someone should be threatening someone.
The character limits is 500
On my iPhone SE 2 it crashes whenever I click on post button or comment button.
Meta has a huge privacy problem. Won't be using threads. Unfortunately I probably already have an account because I have a rarely used Instagram account.
Tweets on Thread should be called stitches
No DMs. 10 pictures. Hit return 3 times to start a thread.
14:48 I disagree. I think the logo can resemble an alphabet from a foreign language.
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These two guys interrupt Marques non-stop damn
Am I the only one who simply DOESN'T want yet another app, that pretty much does, what an app on my phone already does.
You can post up to 500 characters on threads
The dude on the right looks like a human Mark Zuckerberg
My thing is twitter is completely unhinged lmao. I don’t want kiddie twitter
Threads isn't gonna last, Target audience is too wide, Twitter is more for fucking about where as instagram is for people you consider friends, but Threads wants to mix the two together in a PG Style, it'll be too niche for the Instagram and Facebook crowed and too "safe" for the twitters users, it'll hit the roof at 200m users.
Why did Jack Dorsey sell Twitter if he was just gonna go try to make a new Twitter? I guess it's like starting a video game over for that second playthrough
@blurey8569
11 ай бұрын
because jack want to build decentralized version of twitter