SMALL CORRECTION - I totally forgot that OG Emrakul has the rules text "Can't be countered", but any other hiddenaway card that doesn't have that rules text CAN be countered! 😅

@pedrojustice

6 күн бұрын

small...

They really went to some measures to stop ornithopter before it became more powerful than even Planeswalkers

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Gotta take down the king at some point 😂

Might save the format, but also might end up needing to be banned for making it worse. Something to consider is that you can play all your free spells turn one, getting out early moxes and the like, then play the bauble to stop your opponent from doing the same. Turns the meta into a coinflip based on who goes first a not insignificant amount of the time. Not saying it will do this, of course, just that its a possibility. Things like it have happened before.

@diegoperezsommariva2509

Ай бұрын

Perhaps it will make players run different removal

@tylershannon9319

Ай бұрын

@@diegoperezsommariva2509 Perhaps, but maybe not. It depends on the relative efficiency of trying to remove the bauble vs trying to do the bauble thing faster then your opponent. Basically it depends on how the nash equilibrium of a chaotic system shakes out past its predictability horizon, which is alot of very fancy math words for "we can't predict the future, so we don't know." So, it might do a variety of things, but it is a variety of things, and predicting which one is going to be a matter of luck, not certainty.

@arthurfleck4320

Ай бұрын

I doubt it will be banned in Modern. But it's 100% getting restricted in Vintage; you literally play all your Moxen, then play this. Now your opponent can't play their Moxen. Basically, in Vintage, this gives a ridiculous advantage to whoever goes first.

@caveira2099

Ай бұрын

+1 here that this card is on the watchlist from day 0. Maybe the odds are more positive than negative for modern, but it looks like every single deck will have to use it either main deck or SB. And dodging artifact removal for “1 mana, draw a card” is super strong

@alch3nemy394

Ай бұрын

You mean kinda like what scam already does?

my affinity: *SWEATS PROFUSELY*

As a lantern player, this is a godsend 😂

I was crossing my fingers the card was gonna be colossal drazimask

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

In another timeline 🤣

@novarwhoshere2sip865

Ай бұрын

Whoever has that turn 0 God hand with all the Moxie's and vex 😂 before your opponent can even play. Not gonna happen too often but yea

Finally, some good and simple card desgin and even at a low rarity. Will be running this in commander on princible. 👌

@devinvia9655

Ай бұрын

Found the blue player

@maxchenmusterhausen5311

29 күн бұрын

@@devinvia9655 golgari-player here.

In an instant, so many cards just got countered XD and plot was so new, shame it gets countered already

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Plot only appears in one competitive deck in Modern, so it's not getting completely taken out back 😅

Time to create a million vexing baubles with orvar.

I already proxies it to throw it in all my cEDH decks free counters and fast mana deck until you want it is insane for just 1 colorless

@hitlerridingbigbustykangar3401

Ай бұрын

nah g im finna counterspell the fuck outta that shit

Vexing bauble doesn't stop Hideaway Emrakul, since Emrakul can't be countered.

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Yeah I forgot OG Emrakul had that line of text! 😅

This card will scare all alternate currency based decks.

Cedh is slotting that in

Me over here casually with archive traps and surgical extractions feeling a little attacked rn I have been trying this out in my boros delirium deck as a better avacyn scroll

There is a Wizard type creature, Academy Loremaster, that makes spells cost 2 more to cast, which might add a wrinkle to zero costing. And it is symmetrical, as long as each player decides to trigger it.

If I had to guess: Definitely. It is one mana after all. Only problem is that it'll get Griefed if you don't go first

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Just git gd and play first every time 😂

@cosmicspacething3474

Ай бұрын

How so?

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

@@cosmicspacething3474 Are you asking how to "git gd"?

This is gonna fuck up my vadrik spell deck

Oh, this is a must-have in ANY Legacy deck that doesn't play free spells, and still be present in a few of these decks too just to be another tool against even faster combo decks. Oh, and every deck playing Urza's Saga will have one in the maindeck or at least the side board, even if sometimes it's a detriment to them, just to give them a chance against certain decks.

@LibertyMonk

Ай бұрын

Why? Chalice of the Void is strictly better, unless it's a dead card.

@laurelkeeper

Ай бұрын

@@LibertyMonkChalice is often worse. This counters all the Force spells, all the evoke elementals, and most of Affinity. That’s far from meaningless.

@skirk248

Ай бұрын

​@LibertyMonk chalice is cmc not mana spent. Chalice on 0 doesn't stop omniscience atraxa. Boble does

@ab14967

Ай бұрын

@@LibertyMonk Chalice specifically checks for CMC. At 0, it doesn't stop evoking, discover/cascade, storm, and affinity, but it stops something like ornithopter, lotus petal, and mishra's bauble. This is able to stop everything listed for a single mana.

@androkguz

Ай бұрын

​@@LibertyMonk On top of the corrections others have made, I would like to add, as a Chalice player, that Chalice is never a dead card 😊

Lantern got a much needed buff!

Stops amped Raptor as well.

This card is about to be the most played card in modern almost every deck will have this in the sideboard

Between my urza and narset decks, think i may need to slot in some artifact desturction.

Me who plays Maelstrom Wanderer in Commander:…F*$K!

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Gotta run that artifact hate now!

Pulled this one at the prerelease. Wasn't great for a sealed/draft event, but will definitely be good in constructed.

Kinda funny that against this, having to pay 1 mana for an affinity card is better than getting the full discount.

Going in my Azor Knowledge Pool commander deck.

Great in a sacrifice focused commander deck like juri

Finally a counter to black lotus

Me with my Kellan the Kid deck. 👀

Can we now unban mox opal

@williamdrum9899

Ай бұрын

Lol no. Mox opal's biggest problem was that you can cast a second one, sac the tapped one you control to legend rule and essentially have a new mox opal. If that was fixed then sure.

Honestly might play this card in commander too. Some cascade and discover crap is getting out of control.

@seanheath4492

Ай бұрын

Doesn't trip discover up as much, since they have the option to just put it in their hand. Also doesn't help if they spin into something that can't be countered (like, say, if they have Chimil, the Inner Sun).

@cosmicspacething3474

Ай бұрын

@@seanheath4492 it’ll still cost them more mana

@seanheath4492

Ай бұрын

@@cosmicspacething3474 Not saying that this won't mess with discover, just that it doesn't get screwed as much as cascade.

I think in 1v1, it only matters if you're on the play and just makes you stronger. In modern, if you're on the draw, it just gets eaten by Grief.

So a colorless 1 CMC that utterly hoses the mechanics of Storm/copy, Suspend, Cascade, Plot, Evoke, Affinity, Hideaway, and all zero CMC spells. 1 CMC makes it fetched by Trinket Mage. This is now an auto-include in every commander deck. There is no playtesting before release in M:tG anymore.

@Aedi

Ай бұрын

and urzas saga, and a handful of other tutors. seems easy enough to find in game, even without a full playset

@eerie_shroom8500

Ай бұрын

it doesn't work against storm, storm copies go into the stack without being cast.

@Rannulfus

Ай бұрын

Most of the time copying spells doesn't require you to cast them, so that strategy is safe.

@JohnSmith-vk9ds

Ай бұрын

@@eerie_shroom8500 Wait what? If Storm copies and others aren't cast before going onto the stack then that means copying spells and the Storm mechanic itself doesn't increase the Storm count. Say if I am running Melek in commander and cast an instant from the top of my library, with Chandra Hope's Beacon in play making two copies, that means the Storm Count is 1 and my opponent would have to pay full price for Mindbreak Trap, and also Flusterstorm would do nothing to help.

@harkyz4439

Ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-vk9ds Copying isn't casting

As someone with void mirrors in my sideboard, this is so much better

This seems cracked in any place you play Urza’s Saga, if not modern this definitely seems like it’ll see play in legacy with all the free stuff there.

Legacy red prison just moved up a tier in the metagame lol

Super cool card

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

🔥 I cant wait to see how it performs once it launches!

It's a great tech card because you can always just use it to draw, so it's not such a dead card in the wrong match-ups.

@attackoncardboard

7 күн бұрын

Flexibility is king!

I pulled this card, it’s going in every deck

This seems like an astrolabe situation.

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Feels like the meta can adapt to this one though. It's only a good card when free spells are everywhere. Astro was just straight up good as it immediately replaced it self while fixing your mana

Kinda wanna bust this out against pubstompers in commander 😂

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

This card only creates "fair" Magic scenarios, go for it!!

Imagine having to include artifact removal in your deck. It's anuddah shoah!

Stax is back?

RIP coco lol

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Putting creatures into play is not the same as casting them 😉 Coco lives on.

@Distantone11

Ай бұрын

aw dang

Lantern's new toy just dropped.

Every Modern deck will be sideboarding this.

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Or if you're running Urza's Saga just have 1 in the main 😃

soul spike too

My reaction to this card when I finally could read it after struggling to because of all the links on the screen: ..."Oh shit that's good!!!"

*laughs in burn*

And yet it doesn’t stop nadu kekekeke

so does this work against spells like reanimate where you ou bring stuff from the graveyard? because otherwise it seems black green is gonna be top tier

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Putting a creature into play is not the same as casting the creature. So to answer your question, no. (Unless the reanimation spell was cast for free. Like the Flashback cost on Dread Return)

So spicy

Tron says thanks

Stops discover too

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

At least with Discover you can put the card into your hand.

@markdziamski4859

Ай бұрын

@@attackoncardboard that is actually a really good point

Wait till it gets griefed from your hand t1

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Just git gd and just play first every time EZ

Legacy is happy

i know this is supposed to be a modern set but i'm more excited to try this out as a safety piece in cedh/edh lol

@LibertyMonk

Ай бұрын

In Singleton formats, this might be OK as the 3rd or 4th copy of this effect. Modern etc already have Chalice of the Void and Void Mirror.

@neomatt100

Ай бұрын

@@LibertyMonk it'll still see crazy play in modern, and it will most likely be an auto include in many cedh decks unless it gets stopped turn one too often but even then clearing up removal and free counters early is also really good for decks that don't have as much protection

It’s neat to hold onto. At least for now. But my table doesn’t really get much value outside of running against a single Golos Deck.

NOT ORNITHOPTER! NOOOOOOOOO!!!!

What about cauldron familiar from graveyard?

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

That's an Activated ability. It's not cast 😃

Wizards of the Coast are on some heavy drugs, how is this only one mana?

@Lorry_Draws

Ай бұрын

It doesnt further your gameplan though, if it were two mana i doubt it would be good enough

@LibertyMonk

Ай бұрын

The 2 mana version doesn't see play, and the 0 mana version already exists in sideboards everywhere as a 2-of.

@zinglociabatta3205

Ай бұрын

@@LibertyMonk my point is that a player should invest more resources for being able to completely block a Cascade or Discover deck, which for it's nature and design has inevitably big drops like Maelstrom Wanderer. If they make an artifact that constantly counter the other player's counterspells I'll be okay with this, but if they ever did something like that it would probably cost more than one

@williamdrum9899

Ай бұрын

It needs to be or else it's useless. That's power creep in a nutshell.

@nthetiteGHOST

27 күн бұрын

Because you need to be able to counter a turn 1 mana crypt or youre way behind.

You KNOW they wanted everyone to have one because they printed it in uncommon too.

I have a playset of Void Mirror and now I’m just like welp

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

They still technically fill different roles. Void Mirror might still be worthwhile depending on how the Eldrazi decks build their mana base.

@williamdrum9899

Ай бұрын

​@@attackoncardboard One mana spells are infinitely better than 2 mana spells. Simply because when you're on the play, a 1 mana spell can't be Griefed or countered (in most cases).

Kinda makes me wonder if this wasn't a last second entry to stop Grenzo on arena.

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

I think the Evoke Elementals and Cascade decks 100% triggered this card to be made 😅

My only question is, "Wasn't Void Mirror supposed to do this too?"

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Yes, but Bauble is half the cost, can be cashed in for a card and can be tutored with Urza's Saga.

I just built a deck that plays around with Plot and this seems like all my friends are gonna play it just because they hate it.

@cosmicspacething3474

Ай бұрын

You can always add artifact hate

It would’ve been hilarious if it was a 0 mana artifact

Its a staple if you play awith anoyone that has the expensive mana rocks for sure no more getting blasted by sol ring mana crypt mana vault chalace thing first turn 🥴

finally! fuck solitude and grief

Is this just powercrept void mirror

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Yes and no. Void mirror is still good against colourless decks that cant produce coloured mana. Colourless decks can still play into Bauble without issue.

I'll play it

Yeah this card messes me up with certain decks

Going into my sideboard for Karn in Commander. :)

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

While I know Commander is casual and you play it how you want to. "Officially" Commander doesnt have a sideboard, so Karn can only fetch stuff from Exile 😅

@Randoverse

Ай бұрын

@@attackoncardboard I get 7 card sideboard in all my play groups. Nobody even questions it. :D

@Randoverse

Ай бұрын

@@attackoncardboard Even have a deck you have different packages you put together before the game to combine that changes the dynamic. I have friends who spend way to much money, i.e. all the good cards, so I have to be crafty in my budget decks.

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Hopefully they're informed of the official rules and this is all something discussed in Rule 0. This is exactly why "Wish" cards aren't played in Competitive, no sideboard.

@Randoverse

Ай бұрын

@@attackoncardboard Competitive is different for sure.

It’s not like everyone is guaranteed to always draw this on their first turn. Also I’m pretty sure there are some cheap artifact removal spells out there. So no it’s not overpowered

They need to reprint this thing a hundred times. We need this badly with all the power creep going on! This thing is going to be too expensive otherwise

Modern players won't even play Void Mirror. But this one can cantrip, so maybe?

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

It's also half the cost and can easily be played on turn one!

@LibertyMonk

Ай бұрын

Chalice of the Void exists. The only upside to this garbage is it cantrips if your opponent isn't running good cards.

@crovax1375

Ай бұрын

@@LibertyMonk Chalice of the Void doesn't stop the free spells, like Grief, Force of Vigor, and others that are supposedly ruining Modern. If those players would just play Void Mirror instead of whining and complaining, maybe other cards wouldn't need to banned. But I'm guessing that you're one of the whiners.

@Xoulrath_

Ай бұрын

​@@crovax1375or maybe he's just inexperienced since he doesn't know the difference between how Chalice and this new card work.

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

@@LibertyMonk Chalice of the Void - Whenever a player casts a spell with *mana value* equal to the number of charge counters on Chalice of the Void, counter that spell. Chalice checks for cost, not how much you paid.

Would it counter your own spells?

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Yup! It affects both players!

That is the card I was hoping for years now! Get rid of all this free spell nonsense!

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

The age of Fair Magic is upon us! \[T]/

All anyone knew was they didn't like being anywhere near it.

Honestly it’s sad to think a bauble is the best idea wizards has had in a while. Unfortunately I think this is just necessary in every deck right now. It’s akin to drannith magistrate.

As some one that has root sliver that’s fine

I wonder if this card would be considered good in CEDH

Pair with Knowledge Pool to just turn the game off entirely.

Does this stop storm?

@attackoncardboard

7 күн бұрын

Nope. Storm copies aren't cast, they're placed on the stack.

love to see it great card, dont use in commander with your frineds. its a prison card, dont use those.

Are we just going to forget that void mirror exists?

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Yeah because it costs twice as much and Tron decks get around it by paying a single G into their spells.

Void mirror did something similar in MH2

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Void Mirror checked to see if the spell had any Coloured mana spent on it. So yes it could counter free spells. However it costs twice as much and Tron and Eldrazi decks could bypass by simply paying a single green mana into their spells.

@williamdrum9899

Ай бұрын

Yes but it's 2 mana and is therefore crap

should effect storm as every other copy is zero mana so every copy is coiuntered

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Bauble only counters *cast* spells. The copies from Storm arent cast, they're simply copied and placed onto the stack.

I'm still kinda new to mtg, but I think I know the answer, would this stop spells that create tokens? For example skelvs hive?

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Once Skrelv's Hive is in play, it has a triggered ability to create those tokens. It's not affected by the Bauble. Check out my video with Palpatine in the Thumbnail to learn about Activated abilities and triggered abilities 🙂

@jparis92100

Ай бұрын

That's what I thought, but one of my friends was fighting it lol

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Happy to answer any further questions about the interaction. Key takeaway: A spell is a card (or a copy of a card) that moves from one zone (library, hand, graveyard, exile etc) to the stack. If the spell was 'cast' (copies of spells are not always cast) and no mana was spent to do so, the Bauble will counter it. Triggered abilities are denoted by "when", "whenever" or "at" 🙂

@jparis92100

Ай бұрын

@@attackoncardboard Yea, he was thinking it would stop my Mondrak, glory dominus and skrelvs hive/ white mono deck. And everything I looked at was like "no, its a ability not a spell". Thank you for clarifying. (he actually sent me this video and was like "im going to shut down your mites with this")

Does it not stop storm ??

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Storm copies the spell and they are not cast. Cast is explicitly taking a card from one zone and placing it on the stack or an instance of "Exile the card and copy it. You may cast the copy".

@williamdrum9899

Ай бұрын

No. The grapeshot is actually being paid for. Copies of a spell are not cast.

You can still hideaway cast emrakul, just not any other card

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Yeah totally forgot that OG Emrakul says Can't be countered 😂

Dose this work on cost reduction as well?

@attackoncardboard

27 күн бұрын

All the card asks is "Did you spend any mana on this spell? If not, countered."

@rocknut144

27 күн бұрын

@attackoncardboard true but there is where the confusion sits. Will it counter the spells rakdos reduced, or will guist fueled scarecrow save my ornithropter ?

@attackoncardboard

27 күн бұрын

So if you spend no mana to cast a spell it will get countered, so any spells that have their cost reduced to 0 will be countered. If Ornithopter's cost gets increased by 1, and you pay that one mana, the spell now has mana spent on it and was cast. Again Vexing Bauble asks "Did you spend any amount of *mana* on this spell? If you didn't, it's getting countered."

it's gonna get restricted in vintage immediately

Void mirror is already a card and nobody uses it.

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Costs twice as much, can't be found with Urza's Saga, can't trade it in for a card when you're in a match up where it does nothing. Has loop holes to get around its ability.

Do people not know that Chalice of the Void exists?

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Chalice on 0 doesn't stop the vast majority of spells I mentioned. Chalice checks for Mana Cost, not how much you paid to cast it.

@TuberTugger

Ай бұрын

Chalice does CMC, not the amount of mana spent to cast it.

Nadu doesn't seem to care about this bauble.

@attackoncardboard

7 күн бұрын

"Video was made prior to players finding out Nadu was cracked and was based on the previous meta."

And its an egg?

This doesn’t stop the bird so no…it doesn’t

Please, tell me again that this counters Emrakul off hideaway. Feel like you're going to be disappointed.

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Totally forgot that OG Emrakul says "Can't be countered" 😂

@williamdrum9899

Ай бұрын

If it's not the OG emrakul that can't be countered then yes. Emrakul's cast trigger won't be countered by this though

What about Omniscience

@attackoncardboard

Ай бұрын

Omniscience let's you cast spells without paying their mana cost. Bauble counters spells that had no mana spent on them. So yes, Bauble counters spells cast with Omniscience.