Will this 1944 Ford Flathead Ambulance Run? Sitting over 30 YEARS! Will it Run?
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
Before we tear this whole build apart, we are going to go ahead and see if we can get this 1944 original flathead V8 to run! you just can't count these old engines out!
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If that ambulance is in fact a 1944, that is one of the rarest vehicles in existence and should be restored to original instead of being turned into a hotrod. It is entirely possible it literally may be the very last one still in existence. I don't have a problem with turning vehicles into hotrids in most cases, but when it is something that is extremely rare, I feel they should be restored to original and this is one of those vehicles. Due to the rarity of it, restored to original it may be worth 6 figures since it was one of the very very few vehicles that was built for non-military use. Even civilian ambulances were nearly impossible to get and there were likely less than 100 civilian ambulances built and it's likely this may be the last of it's kind. Why chop up such a rare piece of history? Once it's been hotrodded, its historic importance is gone.
A worthy project and restoration. I should also mention, I was born in 1944. Onward!
love seeing the old ones come back.this day and time id say you have a one of a kind there.would love to see it look like it did in the day.
Thank you for posting this video. A little background since I am an EMT for a fire department. These ambulances are some of the first ever used back in the day. The job of medical transport and response was done by coroners and funeral homes who had the vehicle with the capacity to transport people, it wasn’t until the 60s when private companies in public fire departments started investing in train emergency medical personnel. It’s actually quite a fascinating contrast. When you think about in the old day, Doctors typically made house calls so it would make sense for a them to hop in a wagon or something to visit a patient
@todddenio3200
5 ай бұрын
It depended on the location. Some areas had ambulances as early as the 20's.
Hey I'm from/live just outside of Toledo. The Shop of Siebert was formed in 1853 to produce buggies, carriages and wagons for the Ohio farm community of Waterville, which was located 15 miles south of Toledo. They enjoyed a good reputation and soon began producing commercial carriages and hearses for businesses in nearby Toledo, Ohio and Detroit, Michigan.
Drive that thing the way it is
I would keep it all original as possible it's worth more than way. Looking forward to seeing it soon
great content,fantastic vehicle to save,well done looking forward to more updates❤
Great job on getting the ole girl to run . Can't wait to see what's next for it.
This thing is really sweet, I'm so glad you saved it
good job-amazing to get it started!!
Man this thing is awesome. I'm a sucker for anything wagon like. Just picked up a 1950 Pontiac delivery with a straight 6. Watching your excitement for the engine turning over is the exact feeling I had when mine turned over after 40 years of sitting.
@reallyoldtom9352
5 ай бұрын
Picked up my 50 Pontiac sedan delivery in 1971 when I was 19 years old for $35. It has a 1956 Olds V8 in it. Very fast.
So glad I found this channel. Fantastic vid & looking forward to more 🍺
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
I thinks 6 volt systems back then were positive ground
@launceherron
5 ай бұрын
Yes, you are correct
@1950sFordGuy
5 ай бұрын
You are correct, I own a 55 ford f350 and it is positive ground
@Mariano.Bernacki
5 ай бұрын
Many were, but not all, it was not standardized. You need to check for each individual vehicle.
@garyharrall4002
5 ай бұрын
They are. Found that out the hard way on a 49 Ford 8n tractor
@todddenio3200
5 ай бұрын
@@Mariano.BernackiFords were
This project is Amazing 💛👍🏼
Very cool video, 👍👍
Man this is going to be SWEET!!
I've never seen your videos before it popped into my feed today and that vehicle drew me to subscribe and will be watching with anticipation for videos of this project in the future. I think this can really get a lot of people interested because of its rarity and "cool" factor. Ty
awesome old truck, my grandfather had the panel truck model that was a old milk truck, we made it a 4x4 and was the hunting rig/ wood hauler.
You have a really rare vehicle here. If it is even possible to restore it, this thing should be in a museum somewhere. It will definitely take a lot of time and money though.
That thing is beautiful! You've got an amazing opportunity to build an amazing ride.
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
Awesome content
Had a 1953 Ford Siebert Ambulance. Purchased partly restored in Washington
@reallyoldtom9352
5 ай бұрын
Was it a car or truck? There's a 52 car bodied ambulance sitting in a Wendell Idaho wrecking yard
Good.job Nice truck good show 😄👍👍👏👏👏
OMG! I can't believe you found yourself one of these vehicles. This vehicle has so much potential to be something really cool and rare. I can't wait to see what you do with it. If it were mine, I'd drop a cool 100g and people's heads would turn. ❤❤
@danesderelicts
5 ай бұрын
Must be nice. 😢
I have just stumbled onto your channel for the first time. I'll watch a few more episodes before I commit to subscribing as I have so many other channels of this same sort and my agenda has gotten really cluttered. I was surprised to see that with so many older cars in the back ground that you didn't have a couple of spare 6 volt batteries lying around? The other thing which surprised me was that you apparently didn't know that Fords 'and Studebakers and others had Positive ground motors) Ford didn't change until the mid -50's. You have a very good project on your hands and you should make every effort to complete it in a classic style. I had a late friend who restored a lot of older cars and over the years made money on them not only as "Wedding-Wagons" but also when rented for uses as Props in Films. His cars were in "The Sting", "The Great Gatsby", " Once upon a time in America" and the "Karate Kid" just to name a few. he also sold some of these cars to Hollywood Stars like Dustin Hoffman and Earl Holliman.
What a lovely thing! (I'd say most of the ghosts would have moved on by now.)
when using a 12volt battery make sure your not feeding power to the gauges or you will burn them up
I am the current caretaker of my families heirloom, it was a 35-37 Ford med heavy truck, no body except for the cowl, hood and grill, shortened to about a 90" wheel base, mech brakes split so pedal is lr, park handle is rr, 53 flathead v8, basically a homemade "tractor" aka a doodle bug, my point is, the starter and points, condensor, will last virtually forever on 12 volts, you need a Chrysler type igntion resistor and a 12v coil, otherwise all the bulbs and electric gauges need to be changed to 12v parts cuz the smoke is gonna come out of the 6v ones, oh yeah also the generator needs changed to 12v obviously, but those starters are so tuff it'll last, ours is the original 1953 Ford unit and still cranks faster than the idle speed, lol
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
that's awesome!
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@SimonsPowerhouse
4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much
Marvel mystery oil: Mineral oil, mineral spirits, Tricresyl phosphate (anti wear lubricant) , ortho-dichlorobenzene (a solvent for removing carbon), para-dichlorobenzene (a type of disinfectant used in many bathroom cleaners), and red dye No.2 to make it look pretty
I love your videos big dog
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
thank you!
Lakeview Oregon,seen several behind an old car lot. Few ago
I found where a fully restored one went for $38,500 at auction, so you got a little wiggle room on this one. I would take my time and go all out.
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Felicitaciones, buen trabajo. Saludos desde Cutral Co, Neuquén Argentina 👍🏻😎
Of the many variations of Hearst’s and ambulances’s made back in the 20’s thru late 50’s, this one seems most practical, for possible use as a mobil mechanic or, large fam multi-seated Suburban type of ride, with just enough bad-ass styling, without being excessively macabre… Could really be one heck of a sweet ride! Personally, I’d fix’er up as is, keeping original driveline and all else, as it is.. just fix/refurbish everything and use it. I really dig that snazzy cabinetry!
A condenser is a capacitor. Condenser is the word that electrical engineers used up until about WWII then they switched to using the word capacitor....The automotive industry never got the memo, and still calls them condensers....That said engine capacitors are a specific capacitance and voltage (several hundred volts to deal with the inductive spike of the points) and ruggedized to withstand much hotter and colder temperatures as well as the rapid temperature swings of starting an engine in arctic winter and letting it warm to full oppearting temp...so any old random capacitor from some consumer electronic device is unlikely to work, and even if it does work it's not likely to last..
A wood bed and strips on the floor would look awesome. Recovered Seats from a astro van, that way the very back can lay down into a bed.
Part two please :)
Overall, for what it is, it is in fantastic condition. There isn't a ton of rust. You have good bones to work with. I would definitely do an actual restoration on this one due to what it is.
Moc mluvíš a málo pracuješ !!!
When i was in school in 60s a family local to me had a standard wheel base version as their family car . Lots of kids . A couple of years later i heard of one for sale on a farm . I went to see it and it was really nice but i couldnt find the seller so i let it 😢go ..
Hi, I’m waiting for more on this fambulance. I see it as a wonderful family mobile. Please do some more to it. Make sure you put in a radiator. John from Cape Cod
@SimonsPowerhouse
4 ай бұрын
More to come!
20 minutes in and still not messing with the engine. Title was will it run, wasn't it?
You do know it's a positive ground.
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
Yes, that why when I said wait this is backwards. My light bulb went off and I remembered it was positive ground for ford into the early 50s.
DUDE, THE CABLES WERE NOT WRONG. IT'S A POSITIVE GROUND ELECTRICAL SYSTEM.
My Man, you should call your local auto glass shop and have them send the most senior technician to remove the glass. you can polish it back to new. but those glass guys know their stuff and you'll be able to reinstall the original glass....sick😎
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
i can remove and install the glass. it's actually pretty simple once you have done it a few times!
Okay this is a positive ground electric system by using a 12 volt battery you can over heat the pig tail contact on the coil you can use an 8 volt battery and the 6 volt system will handle it without problem and keep it charged as well as spin the starter like a 12 volt battery
Looking at the interior shot of the drivers door I swear that's a spot of od green I see above the window crank. Army? 1944 a rare vehicle
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
yes the door does have green hidden
Would make a great camper😊
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
basically is the plan for it!
Always a worry when kids work on old cars.....yes....use choke.
She sounds beautiful!
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
agreed
The switch on the steering column is an ignition switch and also a steering lock. The switch under the dash board is for heater control.there is a button under the solenoid and u can work the starter with it
I can see the beginning of an awesome camper!
I jump started my 1949 ford 8n using a my pickup once and the tractor is 6 volt.
6v starters will do fine on 12v. A lot of guys do it. Mine has been working for at least 5 years now. Everything else in the car was converted to 12v except the starter
You cant kill these old ford engines
The hoses running to the back were for rear heat.
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
after looking more there is a small heater in the back!
You have to leave sliding window. I would've gave million dollars for that on family road trips when kids got to loud lol.
Nice ambulance. Just clean her deep, keep the patina, good service on the engine. If this ambulance kept good, it can go another century. THANKS
On a six volt I think the ground is positive. Backward from what we have today.
This old scoop and go ambulances ran out of funeral homes
I like this one❤ let's turn it into big project paint this
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
i dont want to get that crazy. my dodge is big enough of a pain in that department for me.
When you go to 12 volts, you need to upgrade the coil, coil wires and solenoid to 12 volts, or things may get VERY exciting for you!!! And those wires are ANCIENT!!! Even if they were in GOOD shape, they would probably overheat!!!
@robert3302
5 ай бұрын
Best to just keep it 6 volt.
@redredmane5544
5 ай бұрын
@@robert3302: If you have patience ( a LOT of patience ) with really weak starting and dim headlights. They have voltage upgrade kits. It’s quite simple to do. Just boost the power to the headlights and the starting. Make sure to upgrade the coil and the solenoid. Then use ballasters to keep the extra power out of any wires you don’t wish to upgrade. Simple.
😂 sounds good 👍🏻
wuao mi abuelo tenia una mas pequeña willi remember...
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5:36 I would leave the original engine in it, though the trans I might swap for a more modern 5-speed or 6-speed manual. Turn it into the ultimate RC plane hauler.
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
as much as we plan to travel and drive it this flat head wont cut it.
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The hoses under the seats could be heater hoses
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
I believe they are.
I'm betting this was a Shriners parade clown car which is why you have all of the odd colors on. After it was retired as an ambulance.
I do hope you restore this by fixing the rust and making it a daily driver with a good paint job? At the moment it looks like its been at the bottom of the ocean.😇😀
Swap out the plug wires
That front grill was known as a “jail bar” underneath that green paint should be stainless steel. I had a 46 Ford p/u. The main reason those “Jail bars were painted was that after 70+ years the stainless gets pitted.
@todddenio3200
5 ай бұрын
On that ambulance the grille was painted because it was made in 1944 and brightwork was not used because it was during WWII.
@marklevine-es2br
5 ай бұрын
@@todddenio3200 that’s true but they were stainless. All the 46 Fords lights parts., chrome parts were made from or stamped from “molds” made before the war. Those bars also known as “Waterfall” bars were not chrome but stainless steel. Most were painted during the war . But the main reason was cosmetic because of the pitting of the stainless steel.
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
I have two jail bars, and neither of them have stainless bars. Even got parts off multiple jail bar trucks, none of which were stainless. very early 42 trucks had chrome bars but never stainless that I have ever seen.
@todddenio3200
5 ай бұрын
@@marklevine-es2br Did I say CHROME? NO.. I did not... I said BRIGHTWORK which is used to describe EITHER chrome OR polished stainless. During the war for national security in case we ended up being invaded, all brightwork was painted over because of how reflective it was and chrome was needed for the war effort and was too important to be used for frivolous things such as shiny trim on vehicles.
@marklevine-es2br
5 ай бұрын
@@todddenio3200 if you say so.
Fix it up put it on airbags
Just Put a Dallas Cowboys sticker on it and it will choke every time. ha ha
A capacitor and condenser are the same thing in electronics :)
Marvel Mystery Oil is mostly Dex/Merc.
A 12 volt battery won't hurt the starter.
be a really cool camper van
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
pretty much the plan for it.
Did you hit starter button on floor
They're spotlights
Look back toward the end when he had it running I saw something in the driver seat it looked like a person but as soon as the ambulance shut off the thing disappeared almost instantly
@taylor-zy7jk
5 ай бұрын
58:02
@taylor-zy7jk
5 ай бұрын
53:37
I still don't think you should make a rod out of this one. There probably are less than 20 of these left. War era stuff like this just didn't last, and didn't get saved.
At least you're smart enough to clean your electrical connections. I get so tired of watching people fight electronics on cars with rusty and corroded connections and can't figure out why shit won't work.
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
that's ALWAYS number one!
Very rare , not many vehicles were produced for domestic use in 1944. Was it a military vehicle? Or perhaps a little newer and produced right after WW2 in early 1946?
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
My best guess at the moment is it was made for something war time related. But maybe never made it. It has a build delivery date of 4-13-44 on the interior tag. So definitely 44 or older. Could possibly be a 42 but the tag build date and chassis serial number all check out for 44. Super super strange year and throws me off. But no telling until I can find the history on it and know for sure. But being war time Era makes it that much cooler to me.
@allenschmitz9644
5 ай бұрын
Paint it O.D. Green and pawn it off to the mil. surp. mkt. it is what it is, a money pit.@@SimonsPowerhouse
@JackSmith-jj3bi
5 ай бұрын
Ford civilian vehicle production ended in early February 1942. If I remember right February 10, 1942. I just did a Google search about when Ford resumed civilian production. Both said 1946 but not a month. I have a 1942 Convertible Club Coupe production date of December 11, 1941.
Are you gonna originalrestore it or?
Dude those acid etched side windows are super sick. She needs to be a blown big block hotrod asap!!!
That ole girl runs sweet .
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
it runs way better than I expected!
But u did check the coil,bad coil no power to the points. An old sun in machine an u can check all that stuff and set it up. Good luck findin one.
Most likely your truck is positive ground!
Ur gonna have to hot wire the coil to get it ranked.What u need is an old timer to show u around Henry Fords brain.Thswtch on the steering column will have to be on or hot wire the coil to the hot side of battery and u run the risk of blowing up the coil with 12 volts. Be very very careful, ask me how I know. I’m 77
dude you make my brain hurt listening to you. You are all over the place. But love your channel
Hi there from Geelong Victoria Australia, at Least you haven't got white ants in it because they like hard wood.
@SimonsPowerhouse
5 ай бұрын
I feel Australia has a lot of dangerous things....
Make a monster
Be a great tool truck don't take the motor and transmission outta of it
make a truck out of it
i lke your knife
Save her ❤original 😊