Will Thin Motor Oil Cause Engine Damage? Let's Settle This!

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Many modern cars require very thin (low viscosity) motor oil to operate more efficiently. Newer engines typically have tighter tolerances between engine parts. Let’s see if lower viscosity motor oil offers the same level of protection against engine wear. We’ll also see of the thinner oil experiences greater thermal breakdown and evaporation.
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    6 ай бұрын

    @@ProjectFarm If you do another motor oil viscosity vs wear comparison, please consider making an equal parts mixture of 5W-20 synthetic and 5W-30 synthetic oils. If the wear scar decreases from that of the 5W-20 oil, but is also greater than the wear scar of the 5W-30 oil, then this empirically verifies that the wear rate of 5W-30 is not a fluke and that the wear rate is definitely better. Thank you.

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  • @AlaskanFalcon
    @AlaskanFalcon8 ай бұрын

    As an Alaskan, I'd love to see the -40 oil put into the wear tester to see how they perform when put to work in extreme cold. If nothing else it'd be a great video to show the importance of winterizing your vehicle (Transmission heat pad, Oil pan heat pad, Block heat plug to heat coolant, Trickle charger/battery blanket). We tend to run thin oils here cause the winters are so cold. Fairbanks Area.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

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  • @David-jt9nt

    @David-jt9nt

    8 ай бұрын

    im still waiting to see the power steering video. I live in the Montana mountains, and -30 isn't uncommon; then add on I have a leak, and I want to see how different power steering fluids handle sadly I don't have the money or power outlets so I can winterize my truck in any helpful way bc I cant go out and start it up every day due to gas prices

  • @crandonborth

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    8 ай бұрын

    Yikes I can imagine how cold it gets up In Alaska… I’m from the upper Midwest and luckily it still 95° here. 😅

  • @Nevir202

    @Nevir202

    8 ай бұрын

    An interesting thought, but I think it would make essentially no difference. Ya it'll start out at -40, but the friction will heat it up FAST. It's not like you wreck your engine with a cold/dry start one time, it's doing it hundreds, or thousands of times that gives you issues. I guess you could swap the wear part to a softer metal and perform a shorter test, to try and compensate?

  • @redsquarejay

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    8 ай бұрын

    How do you survive up there? As a Canadian, I can get used to -30⁰C

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    7 ай бұрын

    @@ProjectFarm hey can you test the best product for stopping rust on the cars underside? Love your videos!!

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    7 ай бұрын

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    7 ай бұрын

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  • @ProjectFarm

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    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @zenriderx
    @zenriderx28 күн бұрын

    6:25 yes! Thanks for letting people know this. Also the "S" that they have dropped off the end (10w30s) stood for Summer. Before multi viscosity oils folks would change viscosities for hot and cold seasons.

  • @craigclu
    @craigclu8 ай бұрын

    I'm retired but worked for a company that developed the micro-finishing film that most engine manufacturers adapted. There was extreme focus on the micro-scratch surface left by the finishing materials and very distinct to the design of a particular engine. There was much more engineering and research on this aspect than one might assume. When the manufacturer recommends a specific oil type and viscosity range, they have some well researched reasons for their recommendations. Modern, low-friction piston ring design also factors into what the manufacturer tells us we should be using.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback.

  • @masynvalentine29

    @masynvalentine29

    8 ай бұрын

    You said what I came to say.

  • @DISOPtv

    @DISOPtv

    8 ай бұрын

    EPA probably is the most reason for the low vis oil and high mile oil change intervals.

  • @57rumors

    @57rumors

    8 ай бұрын

    @@DISOPtvexactly. Thinner oil gives better gas mileage. You’re trading off longevity for efficiency. The engineers only job is to build an engine that is more efficient than previous generations. That’s all they care about. They only need it to outlast the warranty.

  • @802Garage

    @802Garage

    8 ай бұрын

    @@screaminlead I was just going to recommend the Total Seal videos on engine surface finishes as well.

  • @PJ16pt
    @PJ16pt8 ай бұрын

    Sure seems like the oil manufacturer added more additives to the 0w-16 to try and offset the increased wear of such a thin oil. Thank you for another informative test.

  • @PetrolHeadBrasil

    @PetrolHeadBrasil

    8 ай бұрын

    Exactly!

  • @michaelbassett5105

    @michaelbassett5105

    8 ай бұрын

    That’s what Toyota uses and they are known for reliability and longevity

  • @larrybe2900

    @larrybe2900

    8 ай бұрын

    Unless the heavier rated oils stick to metal surfaces the heavier oil has a disadvantage when cold. With most wear taking place upon start-up the 0-16 has an advantage in this respect.

  • @oneninerniner3427

    @oneninerniner3427

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@michaelbassett5105 Honda uses 0W16 on some models I think I heard as well.

  • @wobblysauce

    @wobblysauce

    8 ай бұрын

    Efficiency is good when you own it, longevity is better for the next owner

  • @todddubler2091
    @todddubler20917 ай бұрын

    My last oil change on my 2016 Silverado, I mixed 0w-20 and 5w-30. The truck runs noticeable smoother. Next time it will be all 5w-30. Cold flow isn't a consideration as I live in the desert of Arizona.

  • @danionescu988

    @danionescu988

    2 ай бұрын

    If the car is older, you can use 10W40 in hot climate

  • @wailingalen

    @wailingalen

    2 ай бұрын

    I thought about doing the same on my JL wrangler... just to be safe.... After watching this video and forums.... My first oil change is coming up at 1500 and want to give it a head start on engine life by doing an early first change. And I live in Florida so it's rarely frigid here maybe a couple months of below 45* nights

  • @mm-jx7gf

    @mm-jx7gf

    2 ай бұрын

    @@wailingalenPersonally, my opinion on a new vehicle is to stay with the oil viscosity recommended by the manufacturer and what is says in the owner manual. Sometimes manufacturers will list more than 1 viscosity based on temps and usage, but usually it is just 1. If you use an oil that is not recommended and you end up with an engine problem under warranty, the dealer will void the warranty. And unfortunately today, manufacturers have more problems with new engines than you would think. Maybe you don't want to wait until the warranty is over, but it may be good to wait for a year or 2 and/or 15,000 miles or so... just to make sure. Also, if you can I would stay with the winter grade and only increase the grade for the hot weather viscosity. In other words, if it says 0W-20, think about 0W-30, or instead of 5W-20, go with 5W-30. You just don't want a high viscosity when you first start the car and before it is warmed up... I'm glad you are changing the oil at 1500 miles. Manufacturers say it is not necessary any longer, but I do that as well... Change the oil often and use a good filter; change fluids every 3 - 5 years or so; keep the air filter fresh; use fuel system cleaner (i like Chevron Techron); and drive it right... and it will last a very long time. I still drive a 22 year old Acura that runs like new with 238k miles on it..

  • @haydengalloway5177

    @haydengalloway5177

    Ай бұрын

    Its important to remember that some newer cars have very thin oil galleries. Its not just about wear its about getting the oil through the galleries. If your oil is too thick and can't get through the galleries properly it doesn't matter how much wear protection it has cause your car will be getting very little oil on key components. .

  • @antpart7998

    @antpart7998

    Ай бұрын

    @@mm-jx7gf you might want to be prudent with the fuel system cleaner, it's been shown to drop lubricity in your engine oil whilst it's in the system.

  • @crazysunshyne
    @crazysunshyne7 ай бұрын

    Yes! I requested this topic. Thanks so much for testing this.

  • @coryernewein
    @coryernewein8 ай бұрын

    Friction reduction has seemingly lost to fuel efficiency when it comes to the purpose of oils. I still run "thick" oil in the summer and lighter oil in the winter, glad to know that lessons from Papa still hold up🤙

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @shootermcgavin2819

    @shootermcgavin2819

    8 ай бұрын

    I lived in Ohio. I had an 85 Ford F250 with the 6.9 IDI diesel engine. Ran 20w50 in the summer and 10w40 in the winter. No blow by 👌🏻

  • @coryernewein

    @coryernewein

    8 ай бұрын

    That logic checks out, I would be concerned about sludge buildup if you aren't really getting the engine up to operating temp for a sustained period of time. All oils do it, synthetic or conventional but synthetic seems to degrade worse in subpar conditions from what I've seen. Be well and make sure to keep your oil changes often and frequent...oil is cheap-ish while engines and repair bills are anything but🤙

  • @keithwiebe1787

    @keithwiebe1787

    8 ай бұрын

    I don't think "friction" as he tests it here really is how the engine sees friction. One thing he hasn't tested is "pumpability" when cold or hot. Probably way exceeds his method of testing for friction.

  • @coryernewein

    @coryernewein

    8 ай бұрын

    I could be wrong but I believe he has created a "backyard" version of the actual tests conducted industry wide🤷 With that said, the ability to pump the goo around at various viscosity levels is planned out heavily by manufacturers...unless you have minus 50°c for a month and freeze your coolant all should be fine under your hood👍

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    @Sphendrana8 ай бұрын

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    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much!

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    8 ай бұрын

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    8 ай бұрын

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    8 ай бұрын

    @@FrankenDoctor With all due respect, I have hearing impairment as well, with my midrange that is human voice basically causing it to sound muffled. Mr. Project Farm's voice seems to work just fine for me and I have no issue understanding him. I know it sounds like Mr. Obvious but I try to keep videos at a higher than normal volume level as it does help with the comprehension. You can also find a playback device that allows you to play with the equalization.

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    8 ай бұрын

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    5 ай бұрын

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    @ABoojumSnark8 ай бұрын

    When you do oil tests it might be interesting to include the all-time best and worst performers on the charts at the end of each test (maybe give them a faded out color to set them apart). This would give some overall context to the small selection being tested.

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    8 ай бұрын

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    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much!

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    8 ай бұрын

    I'd argue it's the most useful for analysing oil and tools etc... But that's it. I'd give Kurzgesagt the prize for most useful overall

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    8 ай бұрын

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  • @woodzyfox4735
    @woodzyfox47357 ай бұрын

    So Oil SAE ratings are based on outdoors temp. I a bit to the North, my outside temps dont get below -15F i use 5w-20 year round. Also thanks to your videos i have seen the reduced ware on parts. Along with that stop oil leak one you did i went with the bardahl brand, less wear. my motor seems happy once more and no leaks! I also used your stuff for my Oil filter, Air filter and all kinda of stuff! love your work.

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    @waterboxer874 ай бұрын

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  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @pi1797
    @pi17978 ай бұрын

    As shown on the bearing test the 5W-30 had the least amount of wear. Protect your engine. The only reason the 5W-20,0w-20 and 0W-16 exist is due to the EPA push for higher mpg standards. I had relatives working at auto factories that saw the EPA reports mandating it.

  • @peejay1981

    @peejay1981

    8 ай бұрын

    I was wondering about that. My 2014 Toyota Prado lists a range of oils to use given the max/min temperature, and you can basically use anything when in the range of 0-40 deg. c

  • @Dankboi420

    @Dankboi420

    8 ай бұрын

    I believe hybrid vehicles especially plug in hybrids require thinner oil. Since the engine is not always running, thinner oil flows better at lower temp

  • @sleepyheadz

    @sleepyheadz

    8 ай бұрын

    I have a question though. Does engine wear happen mostly when cold starting? And if it is so, what kind of tests would reflect the effects of viscosity on engine wear? An idea comes to mind, start/stopping the wheel 100 times without pre-oiling them. Would that be more reflective of real world circumstances?

  • @williamromine5715

    @williamromine5715

    8 ай бұрын

    It only makes sense that a thinner oil will provide less protection from wear. I always used 10W30 (I'm 81 and pretty set in my ways), but I have never had car that called for these thin oils. My vehicle is a 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the straight 6 cylinders. It has 240,000 miles on it and I have only used 10W30 in it, which is getting harder to find.

  • @ihopethiscommentisntabusiv4670

    @ihopethiscommentisntabusiv4670

    8 ай бұрын

    EPA doesnt give a damn about your engine, if you need to buy a new one is more money (and taxes) for the government

  • @silvenshadow
    @silvenshadow8 ай бұрын

    I'd love to see a video about the advantages and disadvantages of running very thick oils like 15w50 for extreme duty

  • @willtoulan

    @willtoulan

    8 ай бұрын

    Disadvantages would be fuel economy and flow issues in colder weather

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @ChrisPBacon-ok7ir

    @ChrisPBacon-ok7ir

    8 ай бұрын

    I run 20w 50 in my hotrod and in the high performance engine in my boat. Both are only used in summer months. I use 10w 30 in my other two Mustangs.

  • @gadgethunter5732

    @gadgethunter5732

    8 ай бұрын

    I tried 20W50 in an old '79 Plymouth Horizon I had. The engine needed a valve job and was burning oil. One day the temp dropped and the starter could barely turn the engine over.

  • @andrewgarcia3136

    @andrewgarcia3136

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@gadgethunter5732 thats what happened when I had it in my old BMW during the winter

  • @justinsevier5558
    @justinsevier55587 ай бұрын

    You're favorite and most trusted reviewer on youtube. I always start my shopping by seeing if it's something you've compared. How about doing TPMS sensors? How do aftermarket compare to OEM? Battery life? Accuracy? etc. Thanks for all that you do!

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @alexcarbone1222
    @alexcarbone12227 ай бұрын

    I never heard of 0W-16 oil before this video. But these tests and this whole channel are amazing.

  • @tahsin28

    @tahsin28

    7 ай бұрын

    Well new yaris used 0w-8, you are just behind the times a bit.

  • @dawsonpolaris
    @dawsonpolaris8 ай бұрын

    I love how you always explain the standards you are working against so every video can be watched as a standalone. Makes it easier to share the video with the folks I discuss them with.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @adrianrobinson7953

    @adrianrobinson7953

    8 ай бұрын

    Thx u so much I’ve been waiting for this review!

  • @lh98
    @lh988 ай бұрын

    Problem is the manufacturer doesn’t always have the customer in mind. They often engineer things to bring in more service otherwise their goal would be longevity but longevity doesn’t keep stealerships happy.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing!

  • @StrongerThanBigfoot

    @StrongerThanBigfoot

    8 ай бұрын

    💯

  • @fourcam150

    @fourcam150

    8 ай бұрын

    You make an excellent point. I think manufacturers can be trusted as far as which viscosity to use but the oil change intervals is where they get you. My recommendation is to use the viscosity they call for but under no circumstance would I wait for an oil life monitor to tell me its time for a service.

  • @Back_door_bandit_98

    @Back_door_bandit_98

    8 ай бұрын

    If someone can’t easily figure out what engine oil their vehicle takes than they have no business doing their own oil change.

  • @markk3652

    @markk3652

    8 ай бұрын

    I agree. I’ll put more trust in the recommendation of the man who fixes the broken car than the recommendation of the one who designed it to break at a pre determined point.

  • @BUILTFORDTOUGH79
    @BUILTFORDTOUGH797 ай бұрын

    You should have more subscribers than those mindless “ influencers”. You’re videos are thorough, and the normal individual would never be able to spend the money to test the unending amount of products you test weekly. Thanks man… love the videos.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @richardharris492

    @richardharris492

    6 ай бұрын

    ABSOLUTELY, THEY ARE HERE TO DISCREDIT REALITY

  • @derickd2385
    @derickd23857 ай бұрын

    I am glad to see everyone in here is smarter than the car company engineer team.🤣

  • @jimmotormedic
    @jimmotormedic8 ай бұрын

    Another great video. I'm old school and always thought a thicker oil was the way to go but I'm changing my thoughts a bit on the matter. I was always a 15w 40 guy in everything even small engines. I've never had an engine fail using it but sometimes colder starts were a problem. Then the 5w 40 diesel oils came out and I slowly switched everything to that. Boy did it make a difference in everything especially the diesels. I've come to the opinion that unless the engine is under maximum load and at high temperature all the time the thicker oils may not be necessary. Also oil pressure is an indicator of resistance to flow. So low oil pressure doesn't necessarily mean the engine is not getting oil. Engineering is constantly trying to improve fuel economy and I think that is a major factor, but also I think modern engines using thinner oils have a much higher oil pump volume to try to keep things cool. It's hard for an older guy to get his head wrapped around a 1.5 4 cylinder stock engine producing 250+ hp. Most all auto engines have oil coolers today and that says something. More power in a small package turning higher rpms and a turbo or 2 make a lot of heat and thinner oils flowing faster pick up more heat and carry it away for cooling . Sorry long winded but I'm always trying to learn and understand

  • @tjm3900

    @tjm3900

    8 ай бұрын

    I think you will find most modern engines employ a coolant to oil heat exchanger, not just an oil cooler.

  • @axeami1354

    @axeami1354

    8 ай бұрын

    newer engines usually have a cylinder that's purposely designed to be micro porous, it means they actually hold onto thinner oils but struggle with thicker ones, couple this with reduced friction piston rings, tighter journals , oil passageways and bore sprayers designed specifically for thinner oils to flow through them it makes it a bad idea to put thicker oils in them. Even though the thicker oil itself is technically a better lubricator when put in a modern engine it actually lubricates worse and can potentially even cause issues. Another thing to note is that a lot of new economy engines are direct injection which usually results in more carbon build up around the valves over time so using a thicker oil with less additives could increase the amount of carbon build up over time.

  • @Trammael

    @Trammael

    8 ай бұрын

    @@axeami1354 this all makes sense but then Toyota will specify 5w-20 in Europe and 0w-16 in the US for the same engine. If everything else were equal wouldn’t it make sense to equalize the oil specifications? Others reflexively scream CAFE but I’m not so sure

  • @rotorhead5000

    @rotorhead5000

    8 ай бұрын

    You grasped a lot of things most struggle with, a lighter oil doesn't necessarily mean less protection, because oil flow plays a lot into it.

  • @jimmotormedic

    @jimmotormedic

    8 ай бұрын

    @@tjm3900 exactly, it warms the oil in cooler weather. Also aids in bringing engine up to stable temperature. I was going to mention it but I figured I was a little long winded as it was

  • @chubbyjohnson5480
    @chubbyjohnson54808 ай бұрын

    You're the absolute best at independent product testing. I work in quality assurance, and I find your DOE to be top notch. Thank you!

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @konrad7492
    @konrad74925 ай бұрын

    You can not appreciate this mans attention to detail enough until you've seen hundreds of videos trying to be scientific but failing miserably. No 'whats', 'ifs' and 'whens' were left behind. The questions posed are always answered and in a short and to the point manner. You, Sir, are very appreciated. Thank You!

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @wamps3370
    @wamps33704 ай бұрын

    I just wanted to take a moment to thank you so much for all you do for us. What a fantastic service you provide for us and I, for one, am eternally greatful!

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @johng.4959
    @johng.49598 ай бұрын

    Awesome test as usual! I still believe the CAFE requirements have a lot to do with manufacturer selection. Obviously, I would want a "thinner oil" in a very cold climate during start-up. However.... my 22-yr. old Buick calls for 10w-30 and I don't have any inclination to use anything else! Thanks for the tests!

  • @Itrieditathome889

    @Itrieditathome889

    8 ай бұрын

    I use 0w-40 even at -15°F, no problem whatsoever.

  • @ohioplayer-bl9em

    @ohioplayer-bl9em

    8 ай бұрын

    I use 15-40 in the summer and 5-30 in the winter, both full synthetic. 320,000 miles and not a tick from the lifters and it doesn’t burn a drop. Leaks a bit but not enough to get worked up about. I have to top it off maybe 1 or 2 times between changes and I do 10k plus changes. And top it off means IT’s just touching the low line and I like it at the maximum mark. More oil equals better cooling from it.

  • @RK-kn1ud

    @RK-kn1ud

    8 ай бұрын

    I have used conventional/semi-synthetic 10w-30 in every vehicle I've owned in the last 21 years and have never owned a vehicle that didn't last 400,000 miles or more. I have done this regardless of the manufacturers specification. All of these vehicles succumbed to rust or driver-induced failure...no engine failed because of my choice of oil. That said, I changed my oil religiously at 3k or 5k miles (3k for conventional and 5k for synthetic). I also DROVE my vehicles. I beat on them and/or I drove them for significant periods of time to evaporate the condensation in the oil.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

  • @libtrs838

    @libtrs838

    8 ай бұрын

    I used 5w30 in -30f and it worked fine. It started a little slow but I think that was more battery 0w30 felt about the same. I agree it is all CAFE even 0w16 cars here recommend 0w20 to 10w30 in other countries. People try to say the engine was specifically engineered for oil that thin. If it was then the manufacturer wouldn't also recommend 10w30. Engine clearances have been the same for a long time. Tolerances have gotten smaller (less variation) and the finish is better but the actual clearances are about the same. Todd's new truck having half the oil pressure also supports this, same size holes thinner oil = lower pressure. Companies care about profit and they lose money if they don't meet CAFE numbers. If thinner oil reduces total engine life but gets a better CAFE number of course they will do that. Next year CAFE is 51 mpg cars, 36.6 mpg trucks and 45 mpg combined. For every 0.1mpg under those numbers they have to pay $5.5 per vehicle produced. Miss the number by 1 mpg and you make 1.8 million cars (Toyota or Ford) thats $99 million dollars lost. Wonder why they are looking into 0w8 oil? Longevity is not always or is never the primary goal.

  • @Alex-uz7wd
    @Alex-uz7wd8 ай бұрын

    In extreme cold the oil getting there quickly is far more important than anything else.

  • @bills6093

    @bills6093

    8 ай бұрын

    I think a different low temp test should be added to represent the situation most people are in during winter, such as zero degrees F.

  • @Dr-YouTube

    @Dr-YouTube

    8 ай бұрын

    @@bills6093Did you watch the video?

  • @bills6093

    @bills6093

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Dr-KZread Yes, his freezer is at -40F, a test which doesn't mean much to most of us.

  • @TheBond4141

    @TheBond4141

    8 ай бұрын

    But an engine block heater makes that a moot point as the oil won't be -40. Also it should still be coated from the last time it ran, unlike in the test where it gets cleaned between uses.

  • @ItsKing32

    @ItsKing32

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Dr-KZreadwhat hes saying is also test the cold oil from 0°F not just warm new and -40 because a majority of people arent going to see -40 temps where they live

  • @lovemycountry12
    @lovemycountry127 ай бұрын

    Always appreciate your tests and results. Thanks

  • @johnosczakiewicz9740
    @johnosczakiewicz97406 ай бұрын

    Im looking at P.F. video's , on a Sunday morning !! Love the Oil-impics

  • @evoson5229
    @evoson5229Ай бұрын

    Thank you and KZread! Loved the video and all the information.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks! Glad to hear!

  • @vincentkowski8466
    @vincentkowski84668 ай бұрын

    Project Farm is a true America treasure ! Thank you Sir for these fantastic tests. You are a blessing. 👍

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @moestrei

    @moestrei

    8 ай бұрын

    World treasure.

  • @Kcducttaper1
    @Kcducttaper18 ай бұрын

    Lighter weight oils are only used to squeak out some slight efficiency gains. They just don't provide as much protection to the engine components as the traditional 5w-30 oil (as the bearing test clearly showed) and thinner oils will sneak past seals and cause the engine to start burning oil and piddle on your driveway a lot quicker than 5w-30. If you ask the EPA; apparently burning oil and nuking an engine prematurely is fine and dandy as long as you can save 1/2 mpg in the process.

  • @MrBanaanipommi

    @MrBanaanipommi

    8 ай бұрын

    yes, i still use 10w40 oil and it is maybe most used here in finland, 5w40 is better for daily use in winter time but... i saw how it turns in 2 years without oil change.. it was like water lol :D

  • @nwastormchaser9624

    @nwastormchaser9624

    8 ай бұрын

    Most wear is at startup.

  • @MrBanaanipommi

    @MrBanaanipommi

    8 ай бұрын

    @@nwastormchaser9624 yes, fepending how cokd id it

  • @normanflint8757

    @normanflint8757

    8 ай бұрын

    Yea now imagine a 0-20 in a diesel engine,, the gm 2.8

  • @gregkimura5906

    @gregkimura5906

    8 ай бұрын

    When you have a chance, watch a video on the new Toyota 2.5L motor that I think was the first to use 0W16. They have been using this oil in Japan for a while before it came to the US. With Toyota's tight tolerances and low friction motor, I believe 0W16 has more than enough viscosity for their motor. If it didn't, you'd see quite a bit of metal in the oil and oil filter, which isn't the case.

  • @kurtzspecial
    @kurtzspecial7 ай бұрын

    Great test! Thank you and congratulations.

  • @romanc.5074
    @romanc.5074Ай бұрын

    I was looking for this one, thank you sir.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    Ай бұрын

    You are welcome!

  • @gallimead
    @gallimead8 ай бұрын

    Don't think anyone has ever commented on this, but the tight vocal editing, is always a plus point, and I appreciate it. Your videos are concise, informative, and still yet through.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @gus473
    @gus4738 ай бұрын

    Always enjoy the oil tests! 👨‍🔬😎✌️ Would still like to see a sump pump showdown sometime!

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @RRaucina

    @RRaucina

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes, sump pumps -Liberty and Zoeller for starters@@ProjectFarm

  • @gus473

    @gus473

    8 ай бұрын

    @@RRaucina Wayne & Simers, too!

  • @alexbarna9098
    @alexbarna90983 ай бұрын

    Love it ! Great job. I'd love to see a video on amsoil/ hotshot secret diesel oil and a couple of other common diesel oils

  • @damnyiffers
    @damnyiffers29 күн бұрын

    Great to see someone finally put evidence behind the anecdote. Sacrifice a tiny bit of fuel economy and get a FAR longer lasting engine. I run 20w30 in my Ls1 statesman and it's got over 500,000kms on it. Doesn't burn oil, never smokes and has never been rebuklt

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    29 күн бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @brianhua8226
    @brianhua82268 ай бұрын

    I’d love to see another motor oil showdown!

  • @volvo09

    @volvo09

    8 ай бұрын

    I love the oil tests

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @giggiddy

    @giggiddy

    8 ай бұрын

    Love the channel but the oil stuff is pretty much beaten down. Hes probably done a dozen over the years and you can only test so much additives and hot/cold viscosity.

  • @perniciouspete4986

    @perniciouspete4986

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@giggiddyDo maple syrup, then.

  • @fidelcatsro6948

    @fidelcatsro6948

    8 ай бұрын

    10w40 versus 20w50

  • @LacDole
    @LacDole8 ай бұрын

    Toyota is now using 0W8 in the new hybrid engines, BMW is also using 0W12 is some of their new ones too. Crazy! Even more important to keep the oil fresh in those engines!

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing!

  • @riba2233

    @riba2233

    8 ай бұрын

    can't wait for 0W0!

  • @herrkulor3771

    @herrkulor3771

    8 ай бұрын

    If they are designed for it, it should be no problem. Bigger bearing surfaces and smaller clearances.

  • @nunninkav5307

    @nunninkav5307

    8 ай бұрын

    Just pour water in the crank case at that point.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @mgcarr61camaro91
    @mgcarr61camaro91Ай бұрын

    This will be a video i will share ! Thanks for your hard work in making these tests👍🇨🇦🇺🇸

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    Ай бұрын

    Awesome! Thank you!

  • @ZoxtorPK
    @ZoxtorPK5 ай бұрын

    I always want to see such test results, thanks man!

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    5 ай бұрын

    You are welcome!

  • @bgood213

    @bgood213

    22 күн бұрын

    Slow your voice down 🙏 please

  • @darylsmioth1904
    @darylsmioth19048 ай бұрын

    A two stroke oil shoot-out like synthetic vs conventional vs caster bean oil would be awesome to see!

  • @billmalec

    @billmalec

    8 ай бұрын

    Make sure the 'gum up' factor is included. Castor oils gum up power valves badly.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @joewalla8438

    @joewalla8438

    8 ай бұрын

    It may start on fire. Somebody on KZread tried olive oil and that happened.🔥

  • @billmalec

    @billmalec

    8 ай бұрын

    @@joewalla8438 all of those are in use now and have been for a long time.

  • @johngalt97

    @johngalt97

    8 ай бұрын

    The smoke factor should be measured in more than one way. Two smoke FTW!

  • @chrisfreemesser5707
    @chrisfreemesser57078 ай бұрын

    I hear some new Toyota calls for 0W-8 motor oil...seems crazy to me to use something so thin. Kinda sounds like they're sacrificing engine longevity for lower friction/better fuel economy

  • @shoosh9996

    @shoosh9996

    8 ай бұрын

    If it keeps going , soon it will be just 0...

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @andymike6575

    @andymike6575

    2 ай бұрын

    Pretty soon Toyota will be calling for thin air instead of oil for lubrication. Gotta save themselves ¢ on CAFE fines

  • @baldguybasics7584
    @baldguybasics75847 ай бұрын

    You always do such a thorough job in your analysis. I especially appreciate the quality of information you produce in your reviews. Thanks!

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @marigri2464
    @marigri24642 ай бұрын

    Thankyou for that well put demo, for a better informed decision,

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    Ай бұрын

    You are welcome!

  • @nismo2070
    @nismo20708 ай бұрын

    When we first got a carton of 0W-16 oil at my shop, I didn't think it was for a normal daily driven vehicle. I though it was some specialty performance oil for a 2 stroke or something. Just goes to show how much closer the tolerances are in these newer engines. I drive 20+ year old Japanese vehicles and run 10-W30 in them with no issues. It helps that it rarely gets below freezing here.

  • @123devinzz1

    @123devinzz1

    8 ай бұрын

    always hear that term "new tight tolerance engines". but in reality pretty much all tolerances have been the same since the 90s as far as japanese engines go. also the reason the idle oil pressure on his 2020 is so low at idle. same bearing tolerances but lower viscosity oil.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @duggydo
    @duggydo8 ай бұрын

    Additives make a huge difference on wear. It would be interesting to also do a test with bearing material instead of, or in addition to, the test wheel & pin you are using. I'm pretty sure that is what oil companies tailor there additives to.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @14scottross88

    @14scottross88

    8 ай бұрын

    I'd also like to see it be done under pressure somehow, since this is how the engines runs.

  • @jackmclane1826

    @jackmclane1826

    8 ай бұрын

    These pins are often made from a standard ball bearing steel. 100Cr6 or 52100 I think is the yankee name. ;)

  • @duggydo

    @duggydo

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jackmclane1826 yes, but that’s not what rod and cam bearings are made of.

  • @davidpowell3347

    @davidpowell3347

    8 ай бұрын

    Valve lifters/tappets,cam lobes,piston rings/upper cylinder walls,also timing chain links/rollers. Ball pivots used under rocker arms and pushrod tips. Some cam drive chains and sprockets may be larger/better than the minimum practice,also some modern engines use "roller lifters" to try to reduce demands on lubrication but then there is the axle that the roller rolls on ! The oils are constrained by the fact that the EPA does not like a lot of antiwear additive(s) because of the idea that if the engine is burning a bit more oil than desirable the additive might poison the catalytic converter. I believe EPA has even found a way to spread that to Diesel engine oil requirements. So that obsolete SG rated oil from a few years ago may have had better antiwear performance under adverse conditions than today's oils although such standards as "GF-6" or "GF-6A" are an attempt to come up with oil that will offer adequate protection even with the EPA not allowing much of traditional antiwear additive. I believe the super long oil change distances being advertised by the car makers today are pushing the oil far beyond what is safe. I believe that the additives wear out. A broken in engine is easier to lubricate in my opinion than a brand new one. ideally the connecting rod and crankshaft main bearings are "floated" in oil most of the time that the engine is running.

  • @stevestarr6395
    @stevestarr63957 ай бұрын

    Great analysis on the oils and being a long time Mobil 1 user have switched to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and am very happy with the performance and smoothness of my engine!

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

  • @stevestarr6395

    @stevestarr6395

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ProjectFarm Thanks for the great informative testing videos. They’re very good and revealing! 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @markwatkins6882
    @markwatkins68824 ай бұрын

    Great job, as usual !!! Always check out your channel for valuable info !!! Only run Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-40 in my 2015 Volvo V60 T5 after watching your oil comparison and it runs like a champ !!! Thanks !!!

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    4 ай бұрын

    You're welcome!

  • @Todd66
    @Todd668 ай бұрын

    This channel should be considered a national treasure. not only can I not tell you how many PF videos I have watched, but I have watched MANY of them more than once. Such a good channel. Another well done video much appreciated!😊

  • @Kgio-2112

    @Kgio-2112

    8 ай бұрын

    If you consider it, it is!

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @BSGSV

    @BSGSV

    8 ай бұрын

    I believe Project Farm is recognized unofficially at least as the goto for product test results because of his scientific method, testing multiple ways, and objectively stated results.

  • @qvb1201
    @qvb12018 ай бұрын

    Hey Todd, have you thought about doing the bearing test AFTER freezing the oil? It would be interesting to see how each oil performs on a bearing when frozen.

  • @lexluthermiester

    @lexluthermiester

    8 ай бұрын

    I've wondered that. The thing is, once you actually get to the testing part, the oil has warmed up. You've got a good idea, but it might be difficult to test.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video idea.

  • @TheCAD66

    @TheCAD66

    8 ай бұрын

    5 gallon bucket and some dry ice could help keep the oil cold while set up takes place.

  • @lexluthermiester

    @lexluthermiester

    8 ай бұрын

    @@TheCAD66 That's a good idea!

  • @Jetmech1781

    @Jetmech1781

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@TheCAD66 Just put the oil directly into the test cup and freeze it. Go from the freezer to the testing rig.

  • @RalphCastillo-sr7fe
    @RalphCastillo-sr7fe7 ай бұрын

    I will protect this man with my life. he puts everything on each videos. Keep it up my Brother.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks, will do!

  • @kenneth2405
    @kenneth24057 ай бұрын

    This guy is a scientist, so good info, thanks for all the work.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    7 ай бұрын

    You are welcome!

  • @Ajaxaxxess
    @Ajaxaxxess8 ай бұрын

    Your dedication to these tests are incredible! thanks for all you do.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @putster98
    @putster988 ай бұрын

    Would love to see a comparison of oil filters. Keep up the great work!

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks, will do! Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @dimmacommunication

    @dimmacommunication

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@ProjectFarmDon't forget the cartridge style filters for us Europeans, some ford like the F-150 use them too.

  • @riskybiscuit5594
    @riskybiscuit55947 ай бұрын

    Always a great take away. Thanks PF 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    7 ай бұрын

    You are welcome!

  • @bquade70
    @bquade706 ай бұрын

    Always great content, thank you! Lake Havasu 🌞 Az

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @thegrizzable
    @thegrizzable8 ай бұрын

    Your testing and thoroughness is second to none. Great work as always

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @BigHeadClan
    @BigHeadClan8 ай бұрын

    The most important part of the video was at the end differ to the OEM recommendation on oil viscosity. Don’t just throw a 0w16 at your engine if it calls for a 10w40. If you live in a hotter climate use the higher viscosity of oil recommended if it’s colder vice versa. The only thing you should probably take into question is the oil change intervals especially with forced induction engines.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback.

  • @andrewlee88
    @andrewlee885 ай бұрын

    Blows my mind that all hybrid powertrains recommend 0w20 - 0w16 for the engine side assist. Looks like ill be blending some 5w into mine. Thank you for getting right to the point with tangible results and sharing it with everyone. ❤

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    5 ай бұрын

    You are welcome!

  • @Dankboi420

    @Dankboi420

    5 ай бұрын

    Not just for efficiency, hybrids especially plug in require thinner oil. Imagine this, you’re stuck in traffic for a while and only using electric power. Once the traffic is clear and you put your foot down, the cold engine kicks in for power. But the thick oil doesn’t flow quite easily as the thin oil does when cold, you end up damaging the engine even more

  • @96cr

    @96cr

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Dankboi420 if you love in the cold sure everywhere south of the mason Dixon line here in the states is usually above 30 degrees after spring they never go below 80 in Texas until winter

  • @tomelwich49
    @tomelwich493 ай бұрын

    Outstanding testing and thank you from a new car owner!

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @died4us590
    @died4us5908 ай бұрын

    Always a good show, and thanks for all the time, effort, and personal money used to do these tests. G-d bless everyone.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @CubNole
    @CubNole8 ай бұрын

    Just for consideration, that late model Chevrolet showed in your video does not use an actual oil pressure gauge, but a “dummy” gauge which is programmed to stay at an approximate position as long as the pressure sensor sees X_psi minimum.

  • @duramax74

    @duramax74

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes, they are just an on & off switch mounted to the engine. The dash is an estimate based off of RPM.

  • @filanfyretracker

    @filanfyretracker

    8 ай бұрын

    @@duramax74 heck my Colorado does not have an oil pressure gauge at all, well it has one in the trip computer on the cluster but not a needle like my 1995 S-10 did.

  • @Jay-fy7bn
    @Jay-fy7bn26 күн бұрын

    Best channel ever. No other channel compares to testing products like you, Project Farm. Question for the next oil test. I am wondering if testing how long it takes an oil to get to operating temperature would be a good idea. I just bought a new vehicle that calls for 0W-16 and wonder how quickly it warms up compared to my previous 0W-40 & 10W-30. Thanks! Keep up the great content!

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    26 күн бұрын

    Thanks, will do! Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @theghost75
    @theghost752 ай бұрын

    Good information for climate considerations on what oil to run / per season

  • @emiliog.4432
    @emiliog.44328 ай бұрын

    I switched to 5w30 from 0w20 last year. Mobil 1. Car makers want higher mileage numbers at the cost of the engine. I also change my oil often and earlier than recommended. I live in the South. No cold weather. Good test. Thank you

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing!

  • @Gobbbbb

    @Gobbbbb

    8 ай бұрын

    Mine calls for 10w30 but I use 10w40. Completely agree with you.

  • @moshet842

    @moshet842

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Gobbbbb At 10w-30 you are already at the upper end of viscosity. Completely unnecessary to switch to 40.

  • @Gobbbbb

    @Gobbbbb

    8 ай бұрын

    @@moshet842 With an air cooled engine in 25c+ weather, I'll stick to using the higher viscosity. There may be not much of a difference, but the 10w40 oils here in the UK are considerably cheaper and have slight better protection. It's a no brainer.

  • @moshet842

    @moshet842

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Gobbbbb Oh, you didn't say it was air-cooled. Keep doing what you are doing then.

  • @ronlind1757
    @ronlind17578 ай бұрын

    Thanks for a great video! My 2002 5.3 Silverado has 358,000 miles, 5w-30 year round, non synthetic oil, and never had engine apart.

  • @kanyeeastlolz

    @kanyeeastlolz

    8 ай бұрын

    Wow. How often do you change the oil and are you in a cold climate?

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

  • @ronlind1757

    @ronlind1757

    8 ай бұрын

    @kanyeeastlolz Yes, Minnesota actually. All my vehicles.. every 3300 miles. So 10k miles, change it 3 times. Then, every 10k, rotate tires and drain trans oil (trans pan drain plug 4 quarts come out). It is sooo cheap to do this. I'm 65, retired, my dad taught me this since high school. I have always used Castrol gtx non synthetic. Just my .02 sharing.

  • @kanyeeastlolz
    @kanyeeastlolz7 ай бұрын

    Protect this man at all costs!

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @reynoldmichael1348

    @reynoldmichael1348

    6 ай бұрын

    Protection from who.? Why do so many people repeat this comment?

  • @nickamarit
    @nickamarit23 күн бұрын

    I love your videos so much. Thank you for the great presentation.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    22 күн бұрын

    Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @stg.pikapika
    @stg.pikapika8 ай бұрын

    Always a great video, love the breakdowns and simplicity for anyone to understand. keep up the amazing work man, thank you for another great video

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Appreciate it!

  • @ronmorrell9809
    @ronmorrell98098 ай бұрын

    My understanding is that most of the wear occurs on a dry start up, before the oil arrives to the overhead valve train. That's why the friction tester wheel is coated with oil prior to testing. Wouldn't the much faster cold flow of the 0W-16 more than compensate for the decreased wet protection? Especially in vehicles driven short distances?

  • @Resistculturaldecline

    @Resistculturaldecline

    4 ай бұрын

    There's a large factor that never gets discussed, and that is thermal expansion. An engines machined clearances are tested and engineered to be correct --- at full temp. The bearing clearances are effectively incorrect at cooler temps, and accounts for much of start up wear.

  • @patrickquirk-qz8ri

    @patrickquirk-qz8ri

    2 ай бұрын

    I use it Lucas syn on all oil changes, 185300miles going strong, one bottle per change.

  • @MikeM-tt5fl
    @MikeM-tt5fl5 ай бұрын

    Great tests, straight to the point. Thank You very much.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @martinpanks992
    @martinpanks9927 ай бұрын

    Absolutely love this channel.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @semperfipar1299
    @semperfipar12998 ай бұрын

    Great test. If you could pump the oil across the bearing in the wear test may be more accurate when testing different viscosity oils. I noticed the thicker oil did not flow very well in the temperature tests so I had to wonder will it make it to the bearing surface at the initial engine startup?

  • @anandchundi6805
    @anandchundi68058 ай бұрын

    Miss the oil test videos. I know you can only test so much so many different ways but glad to see another classic from you Project Farm. Love the oil test videos 😂❤

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @jonathanbeale1594
    @jonathanbeale15947 ай бұрын

    Type of oil is temperature depending. In FL we use no lower than 5W30. It's just to hot for lower weighted oils for wear protection. In say AK you would have to use 0W16.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback.

  • @user-ui4vv4ty4b
    @user-ui4vv4ty4b2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the education

  • @3rdpig
    @3rdpig8 ай бұрын

    Very interesting! As an old timer it's hard for me to wrap my head around the idea that you should use the same 0w-20 motor oil whether you live on a permanent glacier where anything above freezing is considered a heatwave, or, like myself, you live in desert where you put on a sweater when temps drop below 80. I'm going to need more than just a manufacturer recommending that, because as an ex dealer tech I've seen manufacturers recommend some pretty stupid things over the years. Things that are designed to make them money, not extend the life of the vehicle. And before y'all start typing, remember that oil temp and coolant temps are NOT the same thing.

  • @alouisschafer7212

    @alouisschafer7212

    8 ай бұрын

    Id say in the end it comes down to the actual oil temp. The higher they climb = the thinner the oil gets its as simple as that

  • @volvo09

    @volvo09

    8 ай бұрын

    If you open your owners manual it will have alternate oils than what's on the cap. My 18 f150 says 5w30 on the cap, but in the manual 5w40 is still in the temperature range... (although 5w30 would be better for me in winter).

  • @thecloneguyz

    @thecloneguyz

    8 ай бұрын

    If you run a block heater 24/7 then your engine never cools down and your oil doesn't break down the viscosity I can get 10,000 miles between oil changes if I use a block heater

  • @volvo09

    @volvo09

    8 ай бұрын

    @@thecloneguyz running a block heater 24/7 is absolutely insane. You are wasting more money on electricity than changing your oil every month.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback.

  • @zackschwenzer4892
    @zackschwenzer48928 ай бұрын

    As you said in the very end, use what the manufacturer calls for. Bearing clearances are getting tighter than ever and if you use a 5w-30 or higher in something designed for 0w-20 or 0w-16, you might not be getting good oil flow to each area of friction, and the same can be said if you use thinner oil when it should be thicker. Extreme climates might change what you want to use though. But most of your wear will be a result of choosing to go way too long without changing your oil, especially on engines notorious for burning it. 5,000 miles max since modern engines use oil to do so much more than just lubricate the crankshaft and camshafts. I feel like I started a war here. The oil consumption is generally from low tension piston rings, but some engines are notorious for this being a severe problem where others it's just a meh issue. There are additives out there that go in prior to changing the oil to "dissolve" hardened oil deposits that cause those rings to stick. Just change your oil regularly and learn to check it yourself so you know if you're low or not, your favorite in and out quicklube is just going to drain and refill, they dont check for that stuff.

  • @moshet842

    @moshet842

    8 ай бұрын

    @@bywonline Who said you can't run 30 in a track car?

  • @anonymousplanetfambly4598

    @anonymousplanetfambly4598

    8 ай бұрын

    I'd tend to agree. Originally I discovered that Ford specified 0W20 to assist in passing EPA fuel economy tests, so I then began using 10W30 in vehicles that were spec'ed at 0W20 with zero issues. This was a deliberate decision on my part after significant research to guard against excessive wear. Fast forward a couple decades, and I tried the same thing in a 3.5l Honda Odyssey...BIG mistake. The bottom end on the Honda 3.5 would take the thicker viscosity just fine, but the oil passages in those VTEC heads certainly couldn't, and complained with a significant amount of clatter on cold starts. I'm trying to get the thicker oil flushed out but 2 changes later the valvetrain still clatters a bit on cold starts.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Good Point!

  • @Hallowsaw

    @Hallowsaw

    8 ай бұрын

    So for your next car people find a car with an engine that is port/direct injection as well as something that uses 5w30 oil so it does not wear as much

  • @vqdriver

    @vqdriver

    8 ай бұрын

    Remember y’all, some parts of the world don’t even have 0W20 for the same engines! If you look at oil charts for various makes and models you’ll see it everywhere from 0W20 here in North America to a 50wt in the Middle East. The “ideal” viscosity for protection and cold and hot flow is 5W30 (North America). Ford never changed their engine designs in the early 2000’s. The CAFE dictated and oil companies sold to them and they retested their engines on 5W20. The same reason why BMW M engines had rod bearing failures running 10W60 🙈. It’s not “clearances” that matter what matters is protection. 5W30 is already pretty thin…

  • @navaneethakrishnans1299
    @navaneethakrishnans12994 ай бұрын

    Your efforts are incredible sir, you have rightly pointed out the practical reason which is shunned by advertising.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @kennethfeltman7693
    @kennethfeltman76935 ай бұрын

    Not sure if you realize how much of a positive impact you have on most of us. Ty

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    5 ай бұрын

    You are welcome!

  • @BixbyConsequence
    @BixbyConsequence8 ай бұрын

    Started using a synthetic 5W-30 in the mid 1980's. My dad said I was crazy to put such a thin oil in my car! After about 200,000 miles I gave him the car and he drove it for years.

  • @fidelcatsro6948

    @fidelcatsro6948

    8 ай бұрын

    What car was that🤔?

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharng.

  • @emotionz3
    @emotionz38 ай бұрын

    What I’ve always found interesting is how manufactures recommend different weight oils for identical vehicles with identical engines in different markets. For example my SVT Focus is recommended 5w-20 in the USA but 5w-30 in Europe. My Mazda Skyactiv-G 2-5l NA is recommended 0w-20 in USA and Canada, and 0w-16 in Japan, which has almost identical climate swings to the continental USA, and interestingly, 5w-20 in Mexico, which presumably doesn’t even need Winter-certified oil, or thin starting weight for that matter.

  • @Broeils

    @Broeils

    8 ай бұрын

    Seemingly same oils in different markets can have totally different compositions, might be a factor?

  • @emotionz3

    @emotionz3

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Broeils wow, never actually thought about that but you’re probably right. Good chance the regulatory bodies in different countries have different standards.

  • @ke6gwf

    @ke6gwf

    8 ай бұрын

    @@emotionz3 there's also different emissions regulations in different areas, and oil choice can impact emissions testing, and they probably have to test with the recommended oil.

  • @daves7775

    @daves7775

    8 ай бұрын

    @@emotionz3 No, the oils sold have the same composition - if they are meeting the same standards. And since they are shipped World Wide - such and such Penzoil Platinum Full Synthetic - 5w-30 will have exactly the same spec's anywhere.

  • @AZTG92

    @AZTG92

    7 ай бұрын

    @@daves7775 Many manufacturers order their oils in local refineries. Unless they control every batch, you do not really know if the oil meets the original specs. Only few companies produce their oils 100% by themselves and ship it worldwide

  • @F-Khan491
    @F-Khan4917 ай бұрын

    Wow, so much information .. thank you sir !

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @yaseenbshina3140
    @yaseenbshina31407 ай бұрын

    The pin test makes sense as you tested the oils on cold temperature compared to engine operating temp, so the 0w oils did the very similar and 5w oils did too. That's the result that one would expect.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback.

  • @gregrobsn
    @gregrobsn8 ай бұрын

    Great test. I never run a 20 weight in a turbo charged engine but that's where the manufacturers are going because of CAFE averages. I realize you have to tell people to follow the manufacturers recommendations because of the liability issue but they really don't care how long your engine lasts as long as it makes it past the warranty period. VW had a 7 year or 70 thousand mile warranty before they switched to 0W-20. Then they dropped the warranty to 4 years or 50 thousand miles. They wouldn't have done that unless they don’t have faith in the oil they're recommending.

  • @tech29X

    @tech29X

    8 ай бұрын

    Exactly what I was saying yesterday. Glad others are catching on the gimmick. Also don't trust the engine oil life indicator light. Just use full synthetic engine oil and change it at least twice a year even if you don't drive over the mileage limit.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

  • @gregkimura5906

    @gregkimura5906

    8 ай бұрын

    VW has a 6/72K warranty for only 2018 and 2019 model years. They did it to help potential buyers feel good about the company again. Remember that they got caught cheating on their diesel emissions. They were fined and had to buy back cars from their customers (or provide other remedies). It had nothing to do with 0W20 motor oil. If you look at the reason VW motors fail, it's not for lack of lubrication. Most times it's due to overheating. Their cooling system is overly complex and there are many places a coolant leak can occur. I've blown up two 2.0L VW motors in the past 4 years. Coolant leaks and runs low, then the motor overheats. Of course not temp gauge, so by the time the dummy light comes on, the motor is cooked!

  • @alouisschafer7212

    @alouisschafer7212

    7 ай бұрын

    Eurocars need a 30 or 40 weight period. Their engines are not build for thinner oils.

  • @jeffrobodine8579

    @jeffrobodine8579

    6 ай бұрын

    @@alouisschafer7212 5W40 synthetic is recommended on most newer European cars, or at least it was.

  • @fifiandmax
    @fifiandmax8 ай бұрын

    I've done multiple tests in my diesel 4x4 between two identical oils except for their viscosity. 5w-30 vs 15w-40 The 5w-30 gave some fuel saving benefit but UOA averaged about 20% more wear particles than the 15w-40 (though still low)

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing!

  • @thelol1759

    @thelol1759

    8 ай бұрын

    I’d be very interested to see the same test with 5w-40 and 0w-40 oils

  • @dimmacommunication

    @dimmacommunication

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@thelol17590w40 oils are rarely real 0w40, way too extreme to realize a 0w40. Useful only under -20°c otherwise just use 5w40 .

  • @sammottley8462
    @sammottley84627 ай бұрын

    Thank you! My Toyota hybrid has 0W16 I'm thankful for that but I have heard of moisture buildup in valve covers makes sense why lots of starting and stopping with very tight tolerances.

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    7 ай бұрын

    You are welcome!

  • @Mijanboy

    @Mijanboy

    6 ай бұрын

    If you only drive short distances eg 10 miles in the morning to work, 10 miles from work in the afternoon, 8 miles to shop, 8 miles back. This is how condensation occurs in the engine and the water flows down the walls of the engine into the oil. If you drive the car briskly 50 miles at a time once a week, the water will evaporate from the oil. If you don't drive 50 miles at a time once a week, cut the oil change interval in half. Everyone has condensation in their engine - it cannot be prevented. The problem is when it can't evaporate from the oil.

  • @BrianRaby998VL
    @BrianRaby998VL7 ай бұрын

    I do learn some valuable info in every video. No matter what the subject material is. . Always great videos..👏👏👏

  • @ProjectFarm

    @ProjectFarm

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Glad to hear!

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