Full podcast episode: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pGirrrqHqcfglbw.html Lex Fridman podcast channel: kzread.info Guest bio: John Mearsheimer is an international relations scholar at University of Chicago. He is one of the most influential and controversial thinkers in the world on the topics of war and power.

@ObeyNoLies

8 ай бұрын

You Americans have this thing completely wrong. It's just so hard for you Americans to see the universe as anything other than revolving around you. The truth is the Chinese don't care about some petty revenge plot, that's a fiction you made up in your heads. What they care about is making China into a superstate with tenticles that extend all over the world and onto other worlds. They want a massive high income, high consumption nation of a billion or more people. They're going to need terawatts of power, new technologies, new infrastructure, an extremely well educated populous, massive amounts of resources. Militarily they don't care about fighting some vendetta next year or in 10 years, that's an American idea. They want to make it so that in 40 or 50 years they can demolish 16 United States of Americas or the entire rest of the world combined if need be. THAT'S their plan, THAT'S what will satisfy their egos and their pride.

@raaid85

8 ай бұрын

so all thus guys arguments against ukraine don't mean anything since he still supports US role as a global hegemonic empire

@azteclegalgroup7604

8 ай бұрын

Read Revelations Books 12-19. Revelations 12:3, 12:9 describes China. Revelations 12:15-17 describes the coronavirus bioweapon attack perpetuated by China. Right now we are in Book 13. Last year Oct 2022 was Revelations 13:2. Now we are witnessing the massive build up of the Chinese navy and military just as Revelations predicts in Book 13. We are now witnessing the massive build up of the “Beast of the Sea.”

@user-hp5bc5cy2l

8 ай бұрын

No there will not be a Sino American war. John is wrong again due to his inadequate theory.

Lex and John: We obviously dont want world war 3, peace is the best option The Military Industrial Complex: Hold my beer

@rageburst

8 ай бұрын

The military industrial complex is more a symptom in John's story. They're not the root cause all all the military interventions since 1991. The real problem is the foreign policy establishment blob that is composed of people heavily influenced by progressive liberal ideology. Power brokers like Madeleine Albright or Lindsey Graham control who gets to work as a policymaker within this complex tribal society. You have people who want to use military interventions as a bad crutch, which of course, benefits arms manufacturers. If you want to solve this problem, it'll be more due to America being forced back into a multi-polar world. New leaders will force out the failed leaders who don't adapt their policies.

@ifeelbetterabouthis.louis3

8 ай бұрын

There will unfortunately be what we all fear

@aaabbb-py5xd

8 ай бұрын

Keep painting the Chinese flag that weird shade of red. Lex is basically a Russian who's Model Raced the F out himself just to stay in business in America. Is it any wonder then that Lex Clips would feature the Chinese flag this way in the thumbnail? But I'm glad to see the virus that is "free world" "journalism" infect everything in its quarters.

@jodythomas4324

7 ай бұрын

Wrong context for the “hold my beer” but alright lol

@shafthespaceegg

7 ай бұрын

Military industrial complex can make money off of the fear of war, they don’t necessarily need a real war

Mearsheimer's strategic points on Taiwan: 1) strategic asset to contain China which implies US does not want China to surpass them. 2) contain China not to get out of first island chain implies they will attack Asian nations, which is not convincing. In PRC's history never did they invade any countries (including China modern time history). So it really goes back to the point that US cannot allow the rise of another nation to challenge their hegamony, that has nothing to do with democracy & ideology.

@prioris55555

8 ай бұрын

You must be a paid puppet of China. China is a society built on organized crime. Authoritarianism is ultimately run by criminals

@rageburst

8 ай бұрын

Recall that the soviet union nearly dropped a nuke on China in 1969. There was a border war between China and vietnam. China has been building aritificial islands and militirizing them as a way to redraw the borders. There is currently an intense security competition in the south china seas where china is using area denial strategy via cabbage tactics with their navy. The most important point is that there is an intense security competition where the balance of power may shift to favor china. That scenario may lead to two superpowers in the world and look at Lex' face as he understood what that will look like. Realists are painfully aware of potential points of conflict that they know rational state actors wont leave it to chance. The question is more what can we do to prevent the less than ideal scenario of china being a second superpower? The logical conclusion of realism is not the happy unicorn story of peace.

@jasonjean2901

8 ай бұрын

@@rageburst The supposed "cabbage strategy" in the South China Sea is nonsense. As Kishore Mahbubani explained, if China wanted to control every island and piece of territory in the South China Sea, all they need to do is snap their fingers and it is done. They have the world's largest navy and it is entirely based off China's shores. What China does is maintain the status quo in the South China Sea with its completely overwhelming military power. China doesn't even care if the Philippines resupplies their rusting ship that they beached on disputed waters; they only care if they attempt to ship construction materials there to alter the situation in the Philippines favor, but you'll never read that in western media despite how it is repeatedly stated in Chinese media.

@rageburst

8 ай бұрын

@@jasonjean2901 If China decides to exert military conquest as of this moment, they would probably lose. They don't need to do this. All they need to focus on is becoming richer. They would be able to become powerful and gradually absorb nations like Taiwan without use of war if they can help it. Of course, they would be facing off against the security competition and against nationalism of nation-states. China is realist to the core. They will assess risk and proceed to maximize their power while not taking unnecessary risks. Kishore has this kind of civilizational view of a new world order led by China that's unrealistic and it disregards the existing balance of power and competition between states. It's not how the world works because nationalism is the most powerful force on Earth. No one seriously wants China to dominate Asia.

@EcchiRevenge

8 ай бұрын

@@rageburst taiwan was never a nation; not even u.s recognizes that. Given America's waning power/influence, whether anyone wants China to "dominate" Asia is irrelevant. China simply exists and there's nothing anyone can do about it; and pretty much anything is better than America's shenanigans in Asia(and rest of the world). The only difference America can make today is whether it will be seen as a reasonable peer competitor or an unreasonable pest. American government is the one that can't afford to not-win a war.

It's highly possible that there will be a similar conversation in the 22nd century between two Chinese, on how to contain the US within the North America hemisphere.

@themsmloveswar3985

8 ай бұрын

Many conversations between sets of two people from Latin America have already occurred down years, concerning the difficulties of responding to "yanqui" aggression, have occurred. Since the 1820s. Those conversation continue to this day.

@jbrandonf

7 ай бұрын

Highly possible? No. China is demographically fucked.

@user-kn1oo1be4r

7 ай бұрын

China rarely engages in foreign wars

@绿茶系天鹅

7 ай бұрын

no we never talk about us, we talk about japan

That’s disgusting to hear. The arrogance. The evilness. The greediness!

American man again wanting to "contain" another country on another continent for American interests... I find those people laughable in these times.

@GustavoRocha1

8 ай бұрын

This old man speaking is the pinnacle of American arrogance. They think they have the right to influence on a question that is not about them. It's between China and Taiwan. They weren't invited to the party, they don't even speak the language. They don't live near the place. Yet they are there thinking they have any right to "stop China from dominating Asia" as if they were sent by god to this mission.

China is Not Irak, Not Hamas, Not Cuba, Not Panama, Not Grenada, Not Venezuela, Not Afghanistan, Not Vietnam, Not Honduras, Not Nicaragua, China is Different. Cooperation with China is the Future ❤️. Peace and Prosperity.

@JohnSmith-ls3um

2 ай бұрын

Let’s see… who’s threatening Taiwan continually? Who’s ramming other countries’ fishing boats, spraying them with water cannons, and claiming fishing rights thousand of miles away? Who’s just appropriating islands and building bases on them? Who’s engaged in border skirmishes with India? Who’s extorting African countries regarding “loans” and Huawei? Who’s bankrolling North Korea? The answer is China. Here’s a proposal: how about China stops engaging in these types of behaviors? If it does, then the U.S. won’t have to confront it anymore .

Super conductors I think is a Third that can be a bigger check mate

In 2023, there are folks who can accept China's rise as a global power and those who struggle with it. Some are eager to criticize China and provoke conflict, while others just want peaceful coexistence and business relations. Convincing people to support a war is challenging, especially considering the skepticism rooted in past U.S. actions, notably the Iraq War.

@NinjaRunningWild

8 ай бұрын

By struggle you imply it's inevitable. That is a choice.

@bmno.4565

8 ай бұрын

I think if America wants to be the leader of the world, they want to prove that they are capable of doing it, and outcompete China fairly instead of defaming them and putting up roadblocks in their progress.

@Gizziiusa

8 ай бұрын

it was the western capitalists that created the china frankenstein we see today. it was they who saw it as a necessary evil to make them the "manufacturer to the world" via using very cheap "slave wage " chinese workers to make $bank$, hence why china opening up to the west economically and financially, while keeping their central communist govt in place. it was in the western multi-national corporate boardrooms, intl banking, think tanks, etc that worked it all out while China was still a closed society with low GNI, per cap income, mostly agrarian society, etc. reap what you sow...

@JohnDoe-dl4ty

8 ай бұрын

Lmao you are a clown. The people struggling with it are countries who are being provoked and bullied by China.

@javiandel178

7 ай бұрын

Problem is China won’t surpass the US because of a mayor population problem. Their one child policy has worked too well and their main group of population is aging quicker they can replace the work force. Same as in all the other developed countries of the West but in greater numbers which means bigger problems. In the next years we are going to see how China is replaced by India as the world producer of cheap goods, which will decrease China’s rate of growth, even decreasing their GDP significantly as the population decreases, life gets more expensive and stops selling in mass because of the lack of cheap workforce.

It's usually simpler than people make it: NOBODY LIKES TO BE "CONTAINED".

@hotstuffdesu

8 ай бұрын

It easy, If they don't want to be contained; they need to play by the rules and don't bully their neighbors.

@freewater2412

8 ай бұрын

@@hotstuffdesu you mean your rules, right? Or it's a simpler rule: American rules and you need to obey.

@directxxxx71

8 ай бұрын

​@@hotstuffdesuFirst rule in propaganda: Always accuse the other side of what you yourself are doing.

@charlesscott4722

8 ай бұрын

@@hotstuffdesu Obey whose rules?

@blackman4life

8 ай бұрын

@@hotstuffdesu You mean 'American rules'😏

Why did the Americans assign the right to themselves to decide how the power structure is divided in Asia? Asia is non of your business, guys, and it is not up to you who dominates who. Asian have to rule in Asia, not the Americans.

@octavia7408

8 ай бұрын

Because imperialism is ingrained in their DNA.

@prioris55555

8 ай бұрын

China is a society built on organized crime. Authoritarianism is ultimately run by criminals. Criminality is ingrained in your mind.

@MyLife-og2kr

6 ай бұрын

Not just Asian countries. African countries as well as LatinX countries.

John is great glad you had him on!

This guy speak with such common sense and facts that it just blows all "NEXT! China will invade Taiwan" narrative out of the water (pun intended). I love how he had to ELI5... "Water... Means you need boats... Submarines, planes sink boats." And notice what he said: "To contain China...". Fuck me... Imagine if the same is said about a European country... "We need to contain France... Or UK..." the first thing they would like to do is to break out of this containment, no? What country would like to be subjugated by some foreign entity? And it's not just ANY foreign entity but one that had declared illegal wars in Iraq on a lie... Ruined Afghanistan even when Taliban weren't directly involved with 911. When you look at what US had done, is it that surprising that China would want to push out their defensive line?

@RumblesBettr

8 ай бұрын

Shh commie

@KenmoreChalfant

8 ай бұрын

Absolutely, he gives circular and hypocritical logic. All he says is that China must be contained? Why? He mentions that it's a "wicked problem", but never actually explains what the problem is. It seems like he was told not to like China as a child and never questioned it again.

@BenjiiBee

8 ай бұрын

@@KenmoreChalfant Do you want to be run by a ruthless dictator who doesn't care about anything besides his own personal interests? Not to mention the constant surveillance, concentration camps of minorities, truth/internet censorship and sooo much more. I'd choose freedom every day of the week over being censored and controlled by one man.

@MrIGameHard

8 ай бұрын

Do you think the containment of the USSR was a good thing? Perhaps not good but necessary?

@mlpcharles

8 ай бұрын

There is quite a history of European wars fought by alliances fighting to contain individual European powers. See the Napoleonic wars, World War I, and World War II. We haven’t seen one since the Pax Americana. The United States has inarguably abused its powerful position since the end of WWII and more so after the Cold War, but those abuses pale in comparison to the treatment of peoples conquered by the Germans and Japanese in WWII, for example. This is not to argue that the US is somehow in the right, only that it excels at offering and building desirable security alliances around the world.

Paradoxically I believe Russia is what is preventing a US China war. Why? It has to do with it being a power broker for example between India and China. It also shields China from direct involvement in the Middle East by representing its interests. Russia's existence prevents a power vacuum in Northern Asia and also prevents US/NATO focusing solely on China and sometimes forces comprimises for example in terms of trade.

@mikexhotmail

8 ай бұрын

Three Legs Teapot

@BatCountryAdventures

8 ай бұрын

I agree but sees it from another angle. Yes, Russia is preventing a US China war but so are the Hama in the sense that the world attention is distracted from the Anti-China rhetoric and US resource had to be diverted to other parts of the world. If it wasn't for that, US would have pumped the Anti-China narrative even more towards a hot conflict. Think about it, wars could be sparking off everywhere else but China-Taiwan but people would STILL try to rope China back into the conversation saying how it might be emboldened to attack after seeing what happened. The truth is the animosity between China and Taiwan have been going on for the last 50 years. It's only been something that's an issue after Trump started on his populist Sinophobic campaign. The only concern China have is Taiwan being used as a base for US to stage their operations.

Lex asks great questions.

How can this guy be anti war for Ukraine then becomes hawkish on China?

@Godfrey544

8 ай бұрын

Because he’s seeing things through us security interests. China and the USA only have islands between them in vast oceans. Those islands are the only buffer zone. If China controls them it will have undisputed reach forwards the USA west coast. While Russia will have the rest of nato between them and the USA. Understand now?

@Western_Decline

8 ай бұрын

Because White

@zachdave2994

8 ай бұрын

@@Western_Decline Don't forget China stole all their peoples money to build empty homes in the middle of nowhere to bolster numbers on paper while they oppress and detain millions of ethnic minorities and harvest the organs of prisoners including political prisoners and presumably journalists. They traffic slaves over Kim's border in North Korea and are the reason for their existence.

@zachdave2994

8 ай бұрын

Stop deleting my comments

@Godfrey544

8 ай бұрын

@@Western_Decline White people are the least racist race on the planet in our time period. That's why they elect president and prime ministers of other races and constantly make movies about how they apologize for being racist. I don't see the Han Chinese doing that.

JM seemed less confident about US capability to contain CHN than his speeches in AUS in 2019. Maybe a reflection of rapid capability gains in CHN. Wonder what it will be like in another 4 years.

@mikexhotmail

8 ай бұрын

Perhaps because Hyper sonic missile just enters that chat lately?

@Longsilog4920

8 ай бұрын

@@mikexhotmail actually it has to more to do with the overall communist Chinese military buildup, especially the rapid development of naval assets, which could be the largest and most rapid in human history. The war in Ukraine has already proven that hypersonic missiles are not the game changer previously advertised. Hypersonic missile use alone cannot win a war by themselves. The only gain for the Russians in Ukraine for example is that their target was just destroyed faster. In fact the Ukranians managed to get lucky and destroy some of Russia's hypersonic missiles near Kiev just with 40 year old American Patriot missiles. The supposed "monopoly" that the Russians and Chinese had on hypersonic missiles is almost over anyway as the Americans and certain other countries are developing their own hypersonic missiles and defense systems against hypersonic missiles.

@mikexhotmail

8 ай бұрын

Against navy battle group drifting thousands of miles far away from their base Hypersonic missiles surely is game changer ^_^ @@Longsilog4920

@EcchiRevenge

8 ай бұрын

don't listen to that guy above; he doesn't understand russia is poor and has much slower hypersonic missiles(just because it's called hypersonic missile that doesn't mean it's anything close to being as good as the next); nor does he realize u.s. hypersonics are full of fail even in tests. @@mikexhotmail

"Never get involved in a land war in Asia."

@mimiginkgo

8 ай бұрын

Fool’s way to make believe

@nsebast

8 ай бұрын

US cant even win in Vietnam and they want to win in China lol.

@CrucialConflict.

8 ай бұрын

@@nsebast Vietnam? People still living in the past... lol There will be no ground invasion this time. hehe

@Longsilog4920

8 ай бұрын

@@nsebast historically Vietnam's greatest weapon against foreign invaders was time and their ability to wait them out. Historically they not only defeated the Mongols and Khmers, but several major invasions by Han ruled Chinese dynasties including a massive invasion by Ming dynasty in 1407 by Yongle Emperror Zhu Dhi was finally beaten by Lê Lợi in 1428 . More recently Chinese PLA also lost their war just 3 months when they invaded Vietnam in 1979 (Sino-Vietnamese War).

@EcchiRevenge

8 ай бұрын

@@Longsilog4920 that's way too much propaganda. For one, China declared limited action(the goal was never to erase vietnam) - and that was limited, while majority of PLA is elsewhere preparing for possible invasion from USSR. The fact that China made the counterattack(and it was a counterattack, after having been attacked by Vietnam at border) was already a win in itself(because it showed USSR couldn't protect vietnam).

Thankyou for inviting him lex

The big question is why should China be contained? In it's history of thousands of years China never had interest in intervention or colonialism, it was always self centered. A country with the population, size and power of China has just the right to be regional leader. Containing it by force even in it's own region will lead to war sooner or later.

@leonardocorso3654

8 ай бұрын

When you start speaking about the ethical policy, one can then argue why does Taiwan need to be subjugated to China's will? Just because it want's to be a regional leader does not give it the right to conquer Taiwan; regardless of the US intent.

@patnor7354

8 ай бұрын

Tell that to Tibet... Heck even China with its many languages *is* an empire of conquest.

@naivoj122

8 ай бұрын

Tibet was set free by China from serfdom and Taiwan has always been Chinas territory and was forcefully taken away by Japan until it was given back. U have no right to talk about ethics if u are from USA. Look at around the world, when there are man made destrcutions there will be USA footprints.

@crocopsjonjones5534

8 ай бұрын

As a Chinese, I tell you CCP will expand communism if they had the chance. You have to elinimate communism.

@notorouistechnoprince3582

8 ай бұрын

Like an any strategy game, is china wins taiwan, they start dominating the area, and the americans and west lose power, if that keeps going china can freely just take over the world if they want to, wich in all odds they most likely will. The americans could have taken over the world if they wanted but they didnt, wester philosophy has added a lot to the world, im not to sure about china, they seem to me like greedy people

There is a guy twice of your size in your block. And you want him to stay at his house and not getting out. This is why a war is inevitable. It could be avoided if you change your mindset

@abc0to1

8 ай бұрын

Americans are smart enough to avoid war in the end. If the Chinese were to appear in the Pacific, U.S. hegemony in the Pacific would crumble, but they would not threaten the very existence of the United States. After the U.S. is gone from East Asia, Australia, the Philippines, and Japan will probably enter the tributary system of China. China will become a world empire like the British Empire and the United States.

Thank you Lex. Your conversations are excellent ❤

I am confused, exactly what business is it for America that China "dominates" the Asia-Pacific, how would we the West feels if China has the same policy about America in North America?

@dr.magnanimous8973

8 ай бұрын

I see you have never been a bully in your life. If you are a bully then you would know US is a bully and a hedgemon that is why US likes to have its way and F with other nations around the world.

@-Pradi-

8 ай бұрын

The U.S. has allies in the region, allies it has agreed to defend if threatened. These allies have as neighbors the Chinese, who are a communist, totalitarian and imperial state. The US interest is to protect its allies from Chinese domination of the entire region.

@NinjaRunningWild

8 ай бұрын

TSMC.

@pikachus5m166

8 ай бұрын

Arrogance, hubris and racial supremacy.

@Danny-qh4su

8 ай бұрын

Exactly right, it's not. The idea that we need to control the ocean literally right next to China is flawed. Also even thinking that we CAN control the water right next to China is absurd.

Systems of any kind fail when 1 or more of the 3 basic pillars that support that system collapses. One of these pillars is in the area of communication. All sides must stay in communication in order to avoid conflict. It is one of the few peaceful methods of two entities to interact. Open trade or an open exchange of ideas can be another, but that option is becoming less likely for the time being.

Lex says, essentially: let's assume for the sake of argument that its inevitable that Taiwan reintegrates with China - do you agree and which path do we take? Then the guest ignores the premise that this could be inevitable - is he incapable of such imagination? He says: we'll take the path of containing China, by any means necessary - but why exactly China must be contained is still a mystery.

@mlpcharles

8 ай бұрын

Mearsheimer gives two strategic reasons that the US would want to avoid the reintegration of Taiwan into China. The first reason might only be relevant where China retakes Taiwan by force, but he says that their failure to defend Taiwan would damage our alliance with Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, and Australia. That failure could convince those allies that we could not be relied on. The second strategic reason he gives is that China would then be free to operate their navy outside of the first island chain, namely, in the Western Pacific. This would roll back American strategic victories in the Pacific theater of WWII, and we might then have a war similar to the one we had with Japan over the region.

@DiddyKongsTrashCollection2001

7 ай бұрын

Probably because china has been belligerent to everyone surrounding it

@SS-yv9cq

7 ай бұрын

​@@mlpcharlesThank you for the transcript, we are all deaf here.

@sumenzhang693

7 ай бұрын

Why would China initiate a conflict with the United States if it achieved reunification with Taiwan? It makes no sense. Often, it's the United States that deploys naval fleets close to the territorial waters of other countries. @@mlpcharles

@MyLife-og2kr

7 ай бұрын

If you listened to his earlier speeches about China, not lex Friedman's podcast, but he has other clips on youtube, you can hear that he isn't anti or pro China.

It's so rare these days to see intelligent people who actually speak the truth. Kudos to this guest.

To those who see ROC as an independent country, pls check its constitution first, and you will find out that ROC territory consists of taiwan, mainland, even Mongolia.

@qwertyboi32

8 ай бұрын

People often have no idea that Taiwan is actually The Republic of China and has the same map. I suppose I can't blame them since many people just rabidly hate China and haven't bothered reading history. In any case, a conflict between The People's Republic of China and The Republic of China is strictly a family affair (notice that none of the named countries have the name America in them lol) and should be resolved by the Chinese free of foreign interference. Resolved peacefully one would hope as I doubt Dr. Sun Yat Sen who founded modern China who is revered by both Chinas would hardly want his descendants to once again turn upon one another in bloodshed.

@Kspat2

7 ай бұрын

No it never specifically defines any mainland territorial boundaries when it was ratified in the 90s.

@treefrog9392

7 ай бұрын

I've heard so many different opinions on this that are the complete opposite of what Taiwan itself is saying - they don't want reunification

@carrielord5268

7 ай бұрын

@@treefrog9392 I know, and you know what, I want to be a billionaire.

@TeacupNNN

3 ай бұрын

And a claim of bigger area on SCS.

Great interview!

Containing China is a silly notion

@RadiusG60

8 ай бұрын

Really? Why hasn't China taken Taiwan already? Is it because communism is such a benevolent ideology? Why have they not taken Japan? Replaced the dollar, Etc. Facts say China is contained, has been and will be.

00:05 There is a serious security competition between China and the US, with a real possibility of war. 01:22 Geography plays a crucial role in international conflicts. 02:21 Growing military power asymmetry between China and the US 03:37 Defending Taiwan is crucial for the US to maintain its alliance structure in East Asia 04:47 Containing China and preventing its domination in the Pacific is crucial to prevent a world war. 05:59 Contain China's dominance in Asia without escalating into war with China. 06:59 Smart policy is to build powerful military forces and avoid being provocative towards China. 08:11 To deter China, the goal is to make it clear that neither side will win the war. Crafted by Merlin AI.

@eymeeraosaka2954

8 ай бұрын

The US and NATO can't even win a proxy war in Ukraine. Isn't it a bit of a stretch to even think the US can win a war in China backyards with American troops going back in body bags?

@mingwu5659

8 ай бұрын

just day dreaming, China is already too strong. China produce drones 10 times cheaper than the US, so does almost all other platforms. China is also protecting all its allies by lending them US dollors and let them pay back in RMB, so they won't go broke in financial crisis, thus the US can no longer rip them off by manipulating interest rate. The US is already doomed.

@taylorjlee

8 ай бұрын

AI created these annotations?

@joemartin6202

8 ай бұрын

USA 'love' for Taiwan is as solid as her love for the Afghanistan nationals that assisted them during their war there. Once the USA fled with their tails between their legs, they left 100s behind to the Taliban.

@AntiWarVet

8 ай бұрын

​@@joemartin62021,000s

A curious question that I never heard anybody asking this Professor. When PRC integrate Taiwan without bloodshed .., then what should USA do ? What is your prediction Professor ?

Selfish America.

We need to defend their democracy. It doesn’t matter that much. Gotta love the old man for the honesty.

Thank you Lex !! Great show !!

Very unlikely, it just too hard to ship million soldiers to cross pacific, the supply line is too long and too vulnerable

@peterking8722

8 ай бұрын

JM is obviously not a military strategist/realist.

it is beyond imagination from non-U.S. citizens to comprehend how Americans perceive themselves as the saviors of the world order. On the contrary, it seems that the U.S. often instigates conflicts in other countries. Discussing this viewpoint may be considered a criminal act from a non-European or non-American background. However, for U.S. and European citizens, it is often seen as an entitlement.

I LOVE John Mearsheimer. Can’t stop listening when he starts speaking.

@puravida809

8 ай бұрын

I am almost puking hearing his BS.

@vegamoonlight

8 ай бұрын

Well, his hegemonic mindset is not commendable. But it's understandable as he is from a war-mongering country.

@likemostthings

8 ай бұрын

on this topic he is almost moronic

@tlNCG

8 ай бұрын

he s just justifing Ru and Ch invasions for the american public here. his mindset is : big guys have the right to invade the neighbours. he said that there is no sign of imperialism with RU attacking UKR (let alone colonialism)@@likemostthings

@bonaqua123

8 ай бұрын

yeap, Mearsheimer is clueless. Putler in his speeches has continuously repeated Russian imperialist stance, straight from the horses mouth and he idolises Stalin and Peter the Great. @@tlNCG

It would’ve been interesting if Lex brought up the conversation between him and Elon, and Elon saying that both the USA and China haven’t been acquisitive militarily.

Sounds a lot like all 3 options involve the threat and or use of nukes

When ever I don't feel sleepy i watch this video... And I get a good sleep 😪😪😪

I appreciate John, he's an honest imperialist. Most imperialists are anything but honest. And for the most part he speaks the truth. Relative to other Western "pundits" he's actually on point and casts aside our fake, pretentious values and exposes the real reason we do things - hegemony. He definitely gets many things about China wrong though, but almost everyone does.

@mimiginkgo

8 ай бұрын

Why care more about China imperialism while being pretentiously know it all

@7hx89

8 ай бұрын

“Democracy doesn’t matter” (in Taiwan) - he IS very honest.

@rageburst

8 ай бұрын

Imperialist implies conquest. That is more progressive liberalism with forcible democracy promotion. John is a realist, which is predominantly underpins how Russian and Chinese strategists think. It's quite different. In terms of grand strategy, he believes in what's called offshore balancing, which is a step below global domination (what liberals use) and onshore balancing (example is Gulf War). Below offshore balancing on the political spectrum is isolationism, which means you don't do anything to address future security issues outside of the western hemisphere that can arise from other great powers. Isolationism is usually a non-argument because if China becomes the second regional hegemon, you can bet the world will have full of proxy wars and chaos.

@kanishkchaturvedi1745

7 ай бұрын

I think the accusation that the US is imperialist can only come from people who don't realize that the true imperialists of the earlier centuries were inhuman monsters. US has killed large numbers of people in war, but never with the global intention that they were people to be exploited. You're forgetting after WW2 they were the only one's with the bomb and didn't abuse that power.

@sittingduck02

7 ай бұрын

@@ragebursttotally disagree. China is already (and has been) #2 in its region both militarily and economically and I see no proxy war(s). On the other hand China & Taiwan have been enjoying 70 years of peace despite all the Media hype & the fact that their civil war never actually ended; and the Taiwanese economy depends on China and millions of Taiwanese people travel, live and work on the mainland nowadays. The reality on the ground is totally different from the liberal media.

The Russia Ukraine scenario is highly applicable. The moment the PRC feels threatened by the ROC, they will take action at all costs: it is necessary to understand what constitutes a threat.

@emaster01

8 ай бұрын

False. Russia isn't talking Ukraine because it wants Ukraine, it's taking Ukraine because it's on the way to what it wants. From Russias point of view, if they do not take the territory they think they need, they will not survive the century. From China's point of view, it can totally survive without Taiwan. Invading Taiwan is not viewed as necessary for survival in China.

@andrewfreeman88

8 ай бұрын

@@emaster01why does Russian need Ukraine to survive?

@user-my2bc8cs4d

8 ай бұрын

​@@emaster01台湾是中国的领土，了解清楚你们政府的立场

@nayman2801

8 ай бұрын

​@@angelobalbiSweden is no longer neutral. They joined NATO last year.

@xsu-is7vq

8 ай бұрын

@@angelobalbiSweden was never neutral to begin with. They didn’t join NATO, but functioned as part of NATO in military cooperation.

Lex, you are an amazing interviewer.

As China grows economically, its military power will grow and it will be very difficult to defeat China in the Western Pacific. The most respectable thing for the US to do is to lead China's peaceful reunification with Taiwan, to gain benefits from China, and not to worry its Allies. Arming Taiwan or supporting Taiwan independence can only be a passive involvement in this war, Taiwan is an island, it cannot face China alone, it is more than 10 times smaller than Ukraine's territory, and then the US will look worse.

@zhuangdavid5037

8 ай бұрын

Taiwan was returned China after WW2, China lost 30 millions people lives in WW2. people in the West should understand such history and human price, not just geopolitical consideration like this professor

@michaelhuang7842

8 ай бұрын

@@zhuangdavid5037 What I mean is that it would be better to lead China to peaceful reunification with Taiwan and set some conditions for reunification than to fight a century war with China in the Western Pacific. For example, the Chinese central government cannot change Taiwan's political system, nor can it interfere in Taiwan's democratic elections. The US would then be seen as a peacemaker in the region, not a troublemaker.

@rosshamber429

8 ай бұрын

Yeah I’m with you. It’s not a war the west should go all in on and therefore provoke it. China is serious about Taiwan. There’s a lot to understand there

@BamBamSam12

8 ай бұрын

@@michaelhuang7842lol no, chinas economy is on the verge of collapse. China should work to make peace, and get back in line with western agendas if they want to survive economically.

@aroonsubway2079

8 ай бұрын

According to its own constitution of Taiwan, its official name is Republic of China (ROC).

To be honest, it’s inevitable

Doubt it will happen we rely too much on each other

Rag tactics when it comes to war works. Even if you have a smaller force you if you dont retreat and non stop engage than you can make it cost more than winning is worth.

I agree that it's vital for all countries to understand, both sides will lose. There will be no winners.

@agoodchow

8 ай бұрын

Taiwan is nothing for USA, Prof logic on this issue made no sense.

@bennyv4444

8 ай бұрын

Unless there is a winner, then there will be a winner

American invasion of Normandy?? 🇬🇧 😮

@danielyates9055

8 ай бұрын

It was early in the war, when America stood alone against Hitler 😅

I would love to see you interview Jonna Mendez!

❤great interview

Let them have Taiwan if they promise not to take anything else

@aroonsubway2079

8 ай бұрын

According to its own constitution of Taiwan, its official name is Republic of China (ROC). So Taiwan is already a part of China LOL

@coz2j69

8 ай бұрын

Taiwanenese are Chinese (they migrated from China)

@abc0to1

8 ай бұрын

If Taiwan becomes part of China, Japan will also become part of China in the long run because Japan's maritime transportation routes will be vulnerable to China. If Japan becomes part of China, South Korea will also be geopolitically isolated and thus conquered by North Korea. However, this may not pose much of a problem for the United States. The U.S. sphere of influence was the Philippines just 80 years ago, and it will simply return to that status quo.

Like musk said peacefully is the way to go

LEX how can you ask if geography has a stake in the war, all wars are about geography aren't they

Last 4 things he said. Good advice for any enemy

The elephant in the room: Putin was totally ignored in word and in presence. The meeting went on as if he didn’t even exist. Also, from the Kremlin there was no reaction, either way. Is Putin alive? Is he in power?

@smartwulf918

8 ай бұрын

Two years ago, this might have been absurd to ignore. Then Ukraine happened, and when Putin started asking North Korea for rifle ammunition, it basically showed us that Russia is no longer a serious contender for Pan Asian dominance.

@alanfriesen9837

8 ай бұрын

@@smartwulf918 I've heard it suggested that Russia's request for North Korean ammunition was made to mirror NATO's request for South Korean ammunition, and was meant as a message to NATO and to South Korea saying that "We have allies too, y'know." Russia's arms production, including artillery shells, appears to be keeping up with their needs. I do recognize that North Korea is a much less prestigious ally then, let's say, Germany or Poland, but I think they may be more reliable. It may well be that my sources are not optimal, most of the sources I'm hearing this information from are biased towards Russia. But the Western sources that still continue to promote a failing Russia narrative at this point are pretty much pure propaganda, and much less reliable, at least as far as this contest is concerned.

What ppl are ignoring when it comes to Taiwan is only 13 out of the 190 UN nations support an independent Taiwan. The us is not one of them. The official us position is it support the one china policy. So what basis does the us have for even talking about Taiwan. It's as if China is talking about supporting the independent Texas movement. It is not their business.

There is no avoiding this war just listening to you i see why this keeps repeating it self

Lex has all the fireeeeee interviews!

8:40 he basically explains Russia- Ukraine 2023

@Nobody-eg4bi

8 ай бұрын

Ukraine is winning already according to Sun

Lex so concerned about china colonizing taiwan but taiwan was always part of china. While the US…. 😂

@johnnycab8986

7 ай бұрын

China wasn't always communist...

1:43 good choice of tank /s 😂

I don’t think there will be a war it’s not in any one’s interest but if and when one power gets to powerful there is always a worry how they will use it

If you put one crab in your bucket, you must put the lid on. If you put two crabs in your bucket, you don't need the lid, as one will drag the other down from escaping that bucket.

@tinaz1818able

8 ай бұрын

Don’t bother to play strategy with the Chinese. They know it better than you. That is why their civilization last more than 5000 years. Got it?!

@kristinahammond-ly4gm

6 ай бұрын

For context: we(U.S) are the bucket in this equation..hopefully tiny minds will be able to grasp

Imagine a world at peace with an America that minds its own business, doesn't have a CIA or a single soldier outside its borders.

@orangechicken5479

7 ай бұрын

In that hypothetical world, tyrants or dictators would gain more power and yield stronger militaries and eventually take over Europe and then the U.S.

@WillyLeclaire

7 ай бұрын

@@orangechicken5479 the worls existed before the US...RUSSIA and China existed before the US, as well as the middle east. As far as I remember none of these countries are responsible for the las world wars. your vision of geopolitics is what is screwing up the world. the US are the only nation who can go and destrooy countries without any restriction. The USA are destroying the world peace.

@nafets6265

7 ай бұрын

@@orangechicken5479 that's why we dont like the hegemonic usa. Too much paranoia that they will be invaded, or something like if they dont rule the world, it will fall into chaos. So much entitlement

@kristinahammond-ly4gm

6 ай бұрын

​@@orangechicken5479sounds like you got the wrong leaders... Ha what's new with the US

What are you doing talking about Chinese territory (Taiwan) and interfering with something thousands of miles from your coastline?

Best podcast ever 👍

John Mearsheimer's analysis of the potential for war between China and the US in the 21st century raises critical questions about global security dynamics. His emphasis on the strategic importance of Taiwan and the complex balance of military power in the region highlights the precarious nature of this geopolitical chess game. However, his argument hinges on deterrence strategies and the role of alliances, which seems to be a throwback to Cold War-era thinking. In today's interconnected world, are these traditional concepts of military deterrence and alliance sufficient to manage the rise of a power like China? Additionally, Mearsheimer's discussion about avoiding provocation and maintaining a balance of power seems to overlook the potential of diplomacy and economic interdependence in preventing conflict. Is there room for a more nuanced approach, combining military preparedness with diplomatic and economic strategies, to ensure peace and stability in the Asia-Pacific region?

@Lucmercurius

8 ай бұрын

It's all about trying to maintain the Empire, that is falling slowly. USA won't be able to stop China from getting Taiwan simply because from the moment Russia striked Ukraine the world geopolitics changed forever. It is simply too much for USA to battle Russia,China and Iran at the same time. This guys still thinks is 1980 where USA was a powerhouse with tremendous industries. Today USA only relies on USD, and it used the USD as a weapon agains Russia, undermining USA credibility, wich is what gives value do USD. BRICS+ will own 90% of the energy sector and petrodolar will fall. That is inevitable. All USA Empire did was War across the globe, while Chine is doing business. The Pentagon and the ABC agencies in US still thinks is the XX century.

@user-vp1vl6yp9t

8 ай бұрын

There will be a war between China and the US in the 21st century because there was a war between China and the US in Korea in the 20th century, and the Americans have better weapons than the Americans have had since the Korean War.

@MikeJones-mf2fw

8 ай бұрын

He's reading the script. I see no new insight. Boring talking head is what he is.

@user-vp1vl6yp9t

8 ай бұрын

@@MikeJones-mf2fw He considers the commie China and the USA as equals. Unlike between the New York Yankees and a single A minor league club, the Yankees win by 100 runs would be a loss. Seriously, the USA must win decisively and beautifully over China in all conflicts between them, only which fits the USA as the leader of just about everything good, such as God's blessing, values of democracy, freedom, and human rights, sciences and technologies, etc., etc.

@7hx89

8 ай бұрын

Great proposal. Very wise and insightful.

I think whats we are missing here is that how the people of Taiwan thinks being a pawn of two political superpower nations..

@ScentlessSun

8 ай бұрын

Taiwan understands the situation well. That’s why they buy tens of millions of weapons from the U.S.

@TeacupNNN

3 ай бұрын

As important as Ukrainan's opinion in Russia-Ukraine War.

Geography is very important, not many experts get that, thumb up Sir!

@nobaso620

6 ай бұрын

We are prisoners of geography

Opps, we avoided the war this week

China wouldnt just have to deal with the crossing and Taiwans armed forces theyd have to deal with US assets in the region as well as the Japanese, Phillipine, South Korean, Australian armed forces as well as USs other allies assets in the region. Trying to take Taiwan would put an end to the military progress China has made permanently.

One of the best interviews lex❤. This guy is a national treasure🇺🇸

Answer: YES

It’s not a matter of if it’s a matter of when

There for sure will be. The question is will it be a physical or digital war

@UncleRuckus7600

8 ай бұрын

China already hacked one of our navy ships months ago

@k2chaos864

8 ай бұрын

All war boils down to down to kinetic, C5ISR is just the intermediary and serves to expedite the OODA loop.

@upinalaska49

8 ай бұрын

Digital war is already happening, there will be a physical war in the South China Sea. The United States isn’t surrounding the South China Sea with military bases for no reason. Use your brain man. China isn’t building up its military for no reason, in the same way Russian didn’t place its military on Ukraines border for no reason.

@UncleRuckus7600

8 ай бұрын

@@medved3027 have you seen china's special forces? They are much much weaker lol thier diet consists of rice so yeah. Go take a look 👀

Until now, I haven't seen any Westerner truly understand what Taiwan means to China. As a mainland Chinese, I attempt to explain from the essence of China's political culture, offering a different perspective. It all boils down to a fundamental question: why, for most of the past two thousand years, has China been a unified nation, unlike Europe with its independent states? The answer lies in the most crucial concept in Chinese culture, 'Unity' (in my opinion). While China had various states, after the unification by Qin Shi Huang, its history was characterized by maintaining unity under strong central authority, gradually weakening during imperial transitions, leading to fragmentation until a new dynasty emerged, restoring unity. In this process, two significant features emerge: the fall of a dynasty often accompanies territorial disintegration, and the establishment of a new dynasty often involves territorial recovery. Behind the division and reunification of territories lies the division and unity of the people's hearts. The political legitimacy of a new dynasty depends on its ability to reclaim lost territories. To maintain China's unity, Chinese textbooks for emperors throughout history always emphasized the cultural gene of unity, gradually becoming a crucial part of China's DNA. The Taiwan issue is a repetition of historical patterns. In the late Qing Dynasty, Taiwan was occupied by Japan after the Qing government's defeat in the war. After the chaos of warlords and civil wars on the mainland, the Communists eventually unified China, and the Nationalists retreated to Taiwan. Under Communist rule, the only missing puzzle piece for a complete China is Taiwan. To maintain their political legitimacy, one of the best paths for the Communist Party is the reunification with Taiwan. If they fail, they risk being forever marked in Chinese history books as the party that lost Taiwan under their rule. Having said this, I believe I've explained why China must reclaim Taiwan and why it's the top national mission. As for the economic, technological, and military factors people often mention, those are secondary. China has become the world's second-largest economy, a technological and military power without Taiwan. Having Taiwan would undoubtedly contribute, especially in terms of military strategic advantages due to its geographical location, but these are not the crucial factors determining whether China reclaims Taiwan. Lastly, I'd like to express my personal opinion: I support the reunification with Taiwan, but I strongly oppose using force. The outcome of a forced reunification would be alienation of the people, contradicting the political goal of unity. The consequences of such unity would inevitably lead to substantial costs for stability and long-term economic losses for China. Not to mention the potential large casualties, Western economic sanctions, and national financial burdens during the unification process. In fact, with the passing of the older generation who fled to Taiwan from the mainland, the new generation of native Taiwanese is not enthusiastic about reunification. Many on the mainland are anxious, fearing that the longer the wait, the less likely Taiwan will be recovered. I disagree with this viewpoint. As a concluding question to all mainland compatriots eager for reunification: If we focus on our own development, unleash China's potential, and achieve just half of America's production efficiency, our GDP will be twice that of the United States, even surpassing the combined GDP of Europe and the United States. 1. Do you think Taiwan would be more willing to reunite with the mainland at that time compared to today? 2. If Taiwan remains unwilling to reunite even then, would you still mind as much as you do today?

@stefanx5470

8 ай бұрын

Westerns don't get the Taiwan issue, and they will never get it. 70% of them probably can't even find Taiwan on the map. All they have is this Disney mentality of Big Evil China wants to devour Poor Little Taiwan. Having any more discussion on Taiwan in English with a person of non-Chinese lineage is an utter waste of time and energy. So, yeah, don't waste your time on that...

@loudog354

8 ай бұрын

Nice breakdown my guy 👍

@michaelwang9053

8 ай бұрын

thx🙂bro@@loudog354

I think it’s about the US international affair strategy that fails. The monopolistic one sided do always USA says behavior is over now. USA should act like they are open for negotiations and sharing the world with China . And eventually since China international policy is focuses on prosperity basis not on cold/hot war or imperialism mannered as USA did, they will be more long lasting power it seems.

This is old thought. Normandy landing does not apply today. With air superiority, no radar can be on without being destroyed right away. So all your missiles are useless. Of course the Strait is still important, otherwise PLA would take Taiwan in 1949. It is just PLA has the ability to control the air above Taiwan today, especially without US Air Force involved.

I wish Lex (and many others) would actually read WHAT the One China Policy and more importantly the One China Principle actually is and means (to both sides) while one side threatens to invade and take the other.

@antwango

8 ай бұрын

wait? who has been threatening who? how can you invade your own again? who is reneging just like the minsk agreement? who is being surrounded, has been surrounded already??? All US proxies is why the world is at war! and is so broken.... The US doesnt want China to dominate Asia!!???? Despite China being Asia!?? And ALREADY dominating Asia? Has anyone in the West looked at the map of where Taiwan is!!?? Taiwan IS China LOL at the West thinking adding a few ships and planes to Taiwan is going to make a huge difference or deter Chinas missiles!? China wouldnt need to employ planes or ships.... And then theres Russia and Nkorea right next door!??? Again I pose the question who is really threatening and antagonising who!??? The REDLINES BOTH Russia and China have spelt out to the West for the last 50+ yrs!!! Was Cuba a redline!? US wants a HEGEMONY, A UNIPOLAR world The rest of the world want a MULTIPOLAR world

@andoramanantsoa4609

8 ай бұрын

can you explain what you mean please ?

@keyboardmanyoutube3189

8 ай бұрын

United states plays words game with China. On one hand, they acknowledged Taiwan is part of China, on the other hand, USA is the bully and only China got its approval to unified with Taiwan.

@jomalomal

8 ай бұрын

feel free to enlighten us

@NinjaRunningWild

8 ай бұрын

What is the premise being set up here?

The 2 strategy reasons that US does not want China to unite Taiwan is exactly reasons China must unite Taiwan, on top of historical reason that Taiwan was part of China and should be part of China. To contain China within the first island chain will be mission impossible in next 5 years , considering China navy force and air force are growing fast and solid. Sooner or later , US will have to accept China's dominated position in Asia.

@sojourner99

8 ай бұрын

I would doubt they are "fast and solid." All accounts their military tech is like their low quality crap products they export: shiny with lots of gadgets, but prone to failure and low quality.

@xgguo3531

8 ай бұрын

@@sojourner99 Good for China to know that you are still living in old days. Or you are one of whose who cannot afford high quality products from China.

@macroman9368

8 ай бұрын

@@sojourner99 Good luck！ Day dreamer .

@19447427

8 ай бұрын

@@sojourner99i hope everyone in the us believe what u believe 😅

@Ye_fan.

5 ай бұрын

@@sojourner99 Why don't you try, or you can go down and ask MacArthur

I’ve got a ps5, enough video game discs, a computer with a rtx4090, dozen TB of pirated movies and JAVs ready, I can contain myself thank you very much.

good, thanks.

Lex, your Q - how to avoid a war? your Q. is predicated on the assumption that the hawks on both sides WANT to avoid a war. war is a part of human history, you can't stop the proclivity of human nature. also, we are already at war now, it just hasn't gone into the kinetic phase, yet. a better Q is how do we make it a short war that minimizes casualties, preferably for our side.

@johnschroeder9129

8 ай бұрын

No its not. The question includes the hawks.

@mremington8

8 ай бұрын

i think your confused dude@@johnschroeder9129

China isn’t the one building and operating bases and floating warships all around California to Oregon and Florida to Maine. So I have no idea how we have audacity to say we aren’t the ones being aggressive and instigating war by intimidation.

@jabrokneetoeknee6448

8 ай бұрын

Those US ships are there precisely because Chinese vessels are aggressively intruding upon our allies’ territorial waters, such as the Philippines, Taiwan, and Japan. Without someone enforcing international law in the South China Sea, fishermen in these countries wouldn’t be safe or able to make a living feeding their own populations

@ClownCarCoup

8 ай бұрын

The US is there to uphold and underscore freedom of navigation in international waters. Without the US Navy presence China claims and controls more navigation lanes China's nine-dash line territorial claim over the entire South China Sea is not recognized by any other countries and contravenes international laws, but there are few countries in the region with a navy large enough to uphold international law there

@SCBlahBLah

8 ай бұрын

ha ha and who is to say CCP is not secretly trying to build bases around the world? Look at their fight with Philippines, Japan, and Indonesia? USA negotiated and worked out a deal with countries to build their maritime bases but CCP cheat or attack to steal land to build artificial bases illegally. Did your leader not share any of this info with you? Judging by your last name you must be scaling the firewall, if so, get yourself educated and learn how many illegal bases CCP has been trying to build the last 10 years

@cburgess2805

8 ай бұрын

China is building island bases in the territories of vietnam, malaysia and the phillipines

@foodparadise5792

8 ай бұрын

@@ClownCarCoup Believe it or not the nine-dash line(originally 11 -dash line) was drawn by the United State as China's water territory after WWII... That time, the Chinese government KMT not current Communist Party, was a puppet of our government. People jump to conclusion not knowing history.

Key lesson to be learned here, and arguably the same lesson that should have been learned from WW1? Building giant, interconnected military alliances and promises can spark a global conflict in hours. The only reason i heard from that dude as to why its important for the US to keep china out of Taiwan is because we said we would. There obviously are more reasons than that, but even if thats just one reason, isnt that soemthing to cosider for US foreign policy? How many goddamned checks are we going to write before they all come to get cashed at once... i get china is a dictatorship, but was this the only way?

5:14 so containment?

Would there be a war between good and evil?

I don't think this was one of John Mearsheimer's best presentations.

Most commentators here may not know that there was a civil war between the CPC and the ROC government represented by the KMT in China, and KMT lost the mainland China to the CPC and retreated to the Taiwan region. ​The constitution of ROC in the Taiwan region says its territory includes both Taiwan region and mainland China, just as the constitution of the PRC on mainland China that states its territory includes both mainland China and the Taiwan region. It might be surprising to some people that Taiwan region that is under ROC administration includes not only the Taiwan island, though it is the largest, but also several other islands collectively called Tai-Peng-Kin-Ma, and Kin is a county in Fujian province which is the only county in Fujian province under administration of ROC while the rest of Fujian province is under the administration of PRC. Both ROC and PRC call the Taiwan island a province. Traditionally, the fight was which of the two governments ROC and PRC represented China, each view the other as illegal organized bandits similar to those in China's past history. Unlike the two former German countries or the two Korean ones, neither ROC nor PRC tolerate the other be recognized as a country: PRC would rather stay out of the UN if ROC on Taiwan was not removed, and ROC would rather remove herself from the UN than having PRC recognized in the UN. The PRC government eventually succeeded in removing the ROC government on Taiwan and took the China seat in the UN after the UN resolution 2758, but ROC declared its disassociation with the UN minutes before 2758 resolution was passed upon knowing the inevitable outcome. So far, there is no formal ending or even ceasefire agreement for the Chinese civil war, though ordinary people under both ROC and PRC like all peoples in the world prefer peace. It should be pointed out that the KMT lost mainland China to CPC and retreated to Taiwan even though the former was supported by the USA.

@aldrickespen6863

8 ай бұрын

Good luck getting anyone outside of Asia to understand or even care about this history. Its sad really.

@dillianwhyte443

8 ай бұрын

The rise of Mao and Communism was a result of Japan weakening the National group.

@peterking8722

8 ай бұрын

​@@aldrickespen6863I agree with you to some extent. I have read even so called experts on China who did not know what they were talking about.

@peterking8722

8 ай бұрын

However, if politicians in the USA learn history and the lessons dealing with China, it will save not only American lifes, but the world. After the failure supporting the ROC's KMT, the USA politicians did not heed the warnings of PRC not to allow their troops cross the 38 parallel during the now forgotten Korean War and was pushed back surprisingly by the what all considered the weak PRC, after which Lee Kuan Yew was treated with respect when he passed customs in western countries according to his recollection because they thought he was from China. Later, during Vietnamese War, the USA politicians did learn the lesson from Korea war to some extent and did not send troops across the 17th parallel as PRC warned. Now the arrogance of some American politicians and so called China experts are very much like that of the government officials in Qing Dynasty in China.

I’m looking at astral projection at the moment. Sounds like it could be a good alternitave to war 😂✊

Isn’t 20% of the global supply of semiconductors made in Taiwan a strategic reason for this bunfight? Look at a map the Chinese have access to the pacific, how does Taiwan geographically contain their navy?

This man could be in charge of my sons Lego panzer force. That’s about how far I’d trust his strategy. “Water is liquid and tanks sink in that liquid. We would want 6,000 units of liquid between us and an enemy. Because water is liquid and liquid sinks heavy things. I think my strategy is pretty sound.”

Taiwan is something that China has to unify regardless how the US play, there is a law in China, so if the US keep to proetect taiwan, the war is inevitable i have to say.

@rageburst

8 ай бұрын

The outcome that America hopes for is that China's economy declines enough to no longer think about conquering Taiwan. What Taiwan should do to keep its limited right of self-determination is to persist its de facto independence and to not provoke the dragon. If China becomes more powerful and manages to circumvent the Western alliance structure in Asia, it's basically bad news for all because of the security competition that will continue to intensify. The formula to avoid war is tricky. USA has to contain China without provoking it into war. This means undermining its economy, and its ability to increase its military power without China opting for take military action pre-emptively. The best outcome is that China's economy plateaus or declines, and then no one has to fight or intensify the security competition. China does not have an immigrant culture. Let's hope that demographics alone is sufficient to keep everyone from fighting because without people, the size of its economy will be limited.

I mean recent war games have shown that the US and Japan win in a war over Taiwan, even with variables putting one hand behind their back.

@michaelhuang7842

8 ай бұрын

This military manoeuvre limited China's military power by assuming that China would only use about 400,000 troops in one theater, with the other 1.6 million PLA watching from behind as the Eastern Theater alone lost the war.😂👏🏻 The truth is that China will be all in.

@michaelhuang7842

8 ай бұрын

@greatvictory9243 The capital Beijing has snow leopard commandos, they are anti-terrorist elite.

Great video and well said by John!

This John guy is definitely not a military guy. Using common sense with little military knowledge is what he is doing. One moment he says Taiwanese straits is a huge body of water, and in another moment, he says USA will support Taiwan (over a small body of water called Pacific Ocean). While Taiwanese straits might prove to be an obstacle, it is actually almost insignificant if China wants to invade. John is really a novice here.

@RadiusG60

8 ай бұрын

And you are the expert! Please, my side hurts, stop so you don't embarrass yourself any more.

@ignatiuschua5268

8 ай бұрын

@@RadiusG60 Yes, I am the expert. Obviously you are a noob. Do you know how many ground to ground missiles can reach more than 180km? Do you know that you only need a few minutes for a fighter plane to fly from China to Taiwan? Do you know that there are many artilleries with a range of more than 180km? The Taiwanese straits is very long. There are many beach heads that the Chinese can formed in order to penetrate Taiwan from the seas.

@abc0to1

8 ай бұрын

If an invasion of Taiwan by Chinese forces were to occur, it would be settled relatively quickly. Simulations have already been made, but whether the U.S. wins or loses, both the U.S. and Japan will lose so many ships and fighter jets that China's geographical advantage will prevail the longer it goes. In addition, China may be able to get help from North Korea and Russia. Taiwan has only a 14-day stockpile of liquefied natural gas. That means electricity and water will be cut off in two weeks. The Taiwanese government cannot continue to fight.

@ChrisZ901

8 ай бұрын

the narrowest part of the taiwan strait is about 150km. that's nothing compared to the Chinese guided rocket systems that can cover more than 300km and super cheap to make (relative to missiles). According to taiwan's dod, It takes 3 patriot missiles to guarantee one interception and they can easily launch 100s of them simultaneously in a saturation attack.

have to correct one thing for John here: There's no such thing as "the Taiwanese", Taiwanese is a false concept, because People live in Taiwan, is Chinese people, they speak Chinese, they write Chinese, they believe in Chinese Goddess, their entire culture is Chinese. More than 90% of the population in Taiwan can trace their grand or great grandfather's brith place is from mainland China. Which means, they're Chinese! Okay? Stop using Taiwanese, no matter how hard you try to separate Taiwan from China, try to separate people in Taiwan from people in mianland China, you will never be able to change the fact that the so called "Taiwanese" is just Chinese people, and Taiwan as an island, is part of China since the very begining.

@cburgess2805

8 ай бұрын

You could argue that "Americans" or "Australians" don't exist with the same logic, that they are British or Scotish, etc...

@cburgess2805

8 ай бұрын

You also ignore the indigenous people of Taiwan who were there before the Han Chinese and still exist today.

Taiwan "Getting across a body of water is very difficult" Tell that to the Brits who sailed 8000 miles to the Falklands and took it back. Taiwan strait is a mere 100 miles.

Both countries too greedy to go to war with eachother