It’s incredibly impressive that this guy went the entire length of this video without a single jump cut, yet not more than a second of silence. Even more impressive that it never gets annoying.

@Killerbeege

2 жыл бұрын

Dude was just thinking the same thing. I his voice is extreamly soothing. The guy sticks to the facts and not this whole grab your pitch forks type vibe that a lot of others put off. It's refreshing to say the least.

@Designsy-wl9nr

2 жыл бұрын

I didnt notice that but its true... Man, that is seriously impressive!

@brandonn6099

2 жыл бұрын

He's just a god at jump cuts and we don't realize it

@louiset3438

2 жыл бұрын

A Brilliant mind!

I've lost trust in my government, it's science advisors, my Doctor, in fact every institution I have trusted for 65 years. It will never be restored. I live in New Zealand but this also applies to our global institutions.

@johneisel4902

2 жыл бұрын

I feel exactly the same way.

@tallard666

2 жыл бұрын

In the 90s, leftists were combatting dehumanising globalisation. After hard cop action and infiltration, those movements died, and a new "institution-approved" type of leftism emerged, a heavily institutionalised capitalistic religious censorious leftism. It's been very strange to watch this happen in the prime of my life.

@angiescorner9549

2 жыл бұрын

I think millions of us are in the same boat

@johneisel4902

2 жыл бұрын

@@tallard666 Looking back now I can see how we got here but I never thought I would see the day when freedom of speech was in jeopardy or how many could be tricked into giving it up. Many of us have seen this movie may times and know how it ends, yet here we are.

@anastasiarenaud2568

2 жыл бұрын

Actually I havent lost hope at all. Because saner heads have prevailed all over the world. My best bet has always been comparing what CDC vs WHO vs different European and Asian countries are doing and then reading the bibliography to see what evidence they reviewed to support their public policy decisions. You learn alot in comparing and contrasting the evidence, public policy and underlying motivations. Using that strategy I bought surgical masks in March 2020 since that was what Asian countries were doing,I got the vaccine, I kept my mask on this summer etc

“The science” is not the same as science.

We feel completely and utterly betrayed by “science”, honestly this is going to make me question EVERY SINGLE THING a doctor tells me.

@The_Kiosk

2 жыл бұрын

As you should. Appeal to authority is a fallacy for a reason and we're seeing the proof in action.

@nedyah151

2 жыл бұрын

@@The_Kiosk I have always done my own research but there is a point to which I am willing to trust experts in a sane world, I can’t know everything. This is currently not a sane world.

@mustang607

2 жыл бұрын

Beware, "Trust the science." Today the results were unlikely obtained by the scientific method.

I'm a scientist as well, and I agree with you 100%.

@fluffykittynoodles

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a 100% as well, and I scientist with you agree.

@MK-ih6wp

2 жыл бұрын

My tired brain read this as I'm a scientologist

@MrEkzotic

2 жыл бұрын

@@MK-ih6wp LMAO

You have to admit, it's a little stupid and scary when people identify as "pro-science". Somehow they think that's useful? As if the other side doesn't also believe they are pro-science? Has one person EVER identified themselves as anti-science?? "Science" is now a sports team. You're either rooting for or against.

@Dr.Frankensteen

2 жыл бұрын

They're only "pro-science" when it supports their political point of view. If not, they will do everything in their power to make sure you don't have a voice.

@somethingsomething8511

2 жыл бұрын

Seems more like a God. Everyone claims its on their side and not their enemies

"When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You're only telling the world that you fear what he might say." - George R.R. Martin, A Clash of Kings

I know you can’t hear it, but I’m clapping right now. I hope others are, too. Thank you, sir!

@dandapper2397

2 жыл бұрын

Why? Big deal. We all know what's going on. I will not start applauding until justice is served.

@jschiek8054

2 жыл бұрын

@@dandapper2397 okay.

@dandapper2397

2 жыл бұрын

@@jschiek8054 seriously. The more people that talk about it the more im convinced nobody will be held accountable. How much more talk do we need?

@jschiek8054

2 жыл бұрын

@@dandapper2397 I don’t disagree with you, but I’m not going to deny it’s great to hear this indictment from someone with both medical expertise and something of a platform. Talk, ultimately, is how truth spreads. I would love to see some manifest results, to see the de-platformers de-platformed, the cancellers cancelled, up to and not excluding certain authority figures being led away in handcuffs. Still feels like we’re a ways off from that, but every voice speaking actual truth brings us that much closer.

@dandapper2397

2 жыл бұрын

@@jschiek8054 its a start.

I am an RN, so hardly qualified to determine whether everything you say is correct, but I’m following because I also sense deeply that the science of medicine that I have come to know is in a perilous state due to political influence. Thank you for sounding the alarm. It’s what we need in order to keep the trust/ integrity we have worked so hard to build!!

@jak2828

2 жыл бұрын

This is the first time In my 35 years that I have ever questioned if doctors are doing what’s best for me or simply following orders. I have only received one injection and I had a bad reaction resulting in half my face going numb. I brought this to my families attention and I was shamed for it and called a liar because there’s NO WAY the vaccine could harm me.

@honestlyme4247

2 жыл бұрын

Lila, same situation as myself.

Science has basically become like religion with different factions and groups, all with different beliefs and "truths."

@asharedo

2 жыл бұрын

Basically textbook Postmodernism. There is no objective truth and only individual experienced 'truths'. Totally ignoring things like physics (if someone has thrown a punch at you and is about to land that punch, it doesn't matter what you 'believe', objective truth will ensure that fist hits your face unless you 'objectively and physically' move out of the way) lol.

@wednesdayschild3627

2 жыл бұрын

I would say science depends on a religion that believes in truth. That was thrown away and people embraced no religion.

@holdenrobbins852

2 жыл бұрын

Scientism.

@lmmartin959

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, Chris, but with a twist. If you don't believe in the dominant "religion" you will be burned at the stake!

@valenten89

2 жыл бұрын

Its why I've come to the conclusion that there is "the science" and then there is science. "the science" is the religion/cult that everyone has to prescribe to or be mocked and shunned. Science is what actually matters cause it actually affects us and doesnt care about what you feel about it and allows for being challenged.

the pandemic was just the cherry on the cake. the 4 years between 2016-2020 really opened up a lot of people's eyes as to what was happening in the institutions of America, and how far the rot had seeped in

@requited2568

2 жыл бұрын

Shockingly, Jocko did an episode, 16, on his The Unraveling podcast that covers the main starting point of the current institutional corruption and decay. You can go further back but that is the beginning of the modern version.

"Politicians use statistics in the same way that a drunk uses lamp-posts, for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912). Its been a long running issue, very few view science as a means of illuminating truth, but rather justification to support their preexisting position.

@guapodesperado2822

2 жыл бұрын

So true. Great quote. Here is one I came up with, "Like a princess on her wedding night, we are all royally fucked."

@Iswasted1

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget that drunks often piss all over those very same "supports". Love the quote by the way.

When true skeptics, which is the heart of science, are shut out from publishing and getting peer reviewed (a process in shambles) and getting removed from every social media and alternative distribution platform science suffers.

“Follow the science”, “trust in science” have given some scientists too much political power. Naturally they find it exciting to play with.

@wowsean

2 жыл бұрын

disinfectant injection

@Olivia-bl8ez

2 жыл бұрын

This is also an insane logo because a good hypothesis is supposed to be questioned, retested, and built upon. Science needs to be questioned to grow.

@squirrelpatrick3670

2 жыл бұрын

it's exactly the same as when they start an illegal war and then say 'support our troops'. The whole thing is corrupted

@carissstewart3211

2 жыл бұрын

@@wowsean that comment just goes to show how dishonest the "follow the science" mob is. In context, a certain president, whom no one ever accused of being a science communicator, was talking about how UV radiation kills the virus, it's a good disinfectant, and what if we can get that into the body. What I heard was "UV light endoscopy"; what his political opponents heard was "bleach." I'm not saying endoscopy would have helped, but let's be honest, nothing he said or did was interpreted in a charitable light. One year ago, the party of "science" was sowing vaccine hesitancy because Trump made the vaccines possible. You do you, man. Bye.

@hermitcard4494

2 жыл бұрын

They're taking advantage ignorant sheep people follow faith blindly.

"You can't overstate certainty and expect people to take you seriously!" - Very true statement!!!

As someone who has made a study of the state of science for the past 20 years or more, I agree wholeheartedly with your observations. Scientific "authorities" have failed us all during this pandemic, they are more concerned with protecting their own position than admitting uncertainty and errors; of course the same goes for our political "leadership".

Never known a disease this dangerous whereby doctors were encouraged not to treat it early. It’s like the entire medical profession failed an ethics test. Would long COVID even be a thing if we’d been treating people immediately following symptoms. And surely we’d have the process locked down by now.

@rphil1719

2 жыл бұрын

Treating with what, exactly?

@happymomma7043

2 жыл бұрын

@@rphil1719 some Drs who have chosen to actually treat people are using steroids, Zpack antibiotics, intravenous vitamins, monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and others I haven’t heard of.

@anastasiarenaud2568

2 жыл бұрын

Not really. Folks with ME/CFS have been suffering for years and they have symptoms nearly identical to long COVID. In anycase yes its a shame we have abandoned a multipronged approach of 1) non pharmacological intervention 2) vaccine 3) outpatient treatment and 4) inpatient treatment for COVID.

@rphil1719

2 жыл бұрын

@@happymomma7043 You should watch more of Dr. Prasad’s videos. You clearly aren’t getting his message. You are spewing the Joe Rogan therapies. You do understand what monoclonal antibodies are, correct? When they became available? Dr. Prasad is a fervent supporter of evidence based medicine. Most of what you are talking about is not at all supported by research. Some of what you are referencing, like specific steroids, have a very narrow therapeutic window and are actually deleterious when used outside of the very specific clinical indications. But, best of luck to you when you end up with COVID.

@caseymckenzie4760

2 жыл бұрын

I tested positive for covid today. When I was on the phone with the nurse I asked if there was anything she could prescribe or recommend for treatment. She said no. "The CDC has no recommended treatment." I said what about Zink vitamin d and c. She said no. Luckily I have done my own research and have all those plus ivermectin to treat myself. There is a top down problem where large expensive trials funded by big pharma are all doctors will listen to. Critical care doctors who see success with a treatment are dismissed because they are not controlled by the big medical industries.

““The duty of the man who investigates the writings of scientists, if learning the truth is his goal, is to make himself an enemy of all that he reads, and… attack it from every side. He should also suspect himself as he performs his critical examination of it, so that he may avoid falling into either prejudice or leniency.” Ibn Al-Haytham

I have been trying to make many of the points VP is making here since the start of the pandemic with not much success, but VP is way more eloquent than I could ever be. Thanks for this video.

@luciansunset1

2 жыл бұрын

Me too

Fantastic! About to share. This past year has been deeply troubling to me, primarily because everyone forgot how to think rationally. Anything is possible when we throw critical thinking away.

Adding that these days remind me of a prescient line by WB Yeats: “The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.”

The most disappointing aspect of this is the failure of the scientific infrastructure. People won’t forget this. And the loss of faith in doctors and the medical establishment will last for a long time. The silver lining is that there are a few scientists and doctors have kept a level head and stayed reasonable. People won’t forget you guys either. :)

@jonz23m

2 жыл бұрын

Well that's a good thing. Doctors should not be trusted at all as long as the pharmaceutical industry runs their education, so it's safer for the patients not to trust them at all.

@ownage11445

2 жыл бұрын

Doctors nowadays are nothing more than glorified drug dealers for the pharmaceutical companies.

@tonyb980

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonz23m and yet we do trust them, or our hospitals wouldn’t be overflowing right now.

@gorkyd7912

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonyb980 There are easy, simple cures for ailments but the only way to get them "legally" or affordably is to submit to hospitalization. I wouldn't say people trust doctors simply because they have no other choice in the application of medicine. But yeah, most doctors are fine if a little misguided in their lack of holistic perspective.

@tonyb980

2 жыл бұрын

@@gorkyd7912 I definitely agree with lack of holistic treatment!

Expunging scientific critics isn't novel, it is a very old instinct. It used to be argued that "there is no freedom for error" and scientific critics were persecuted in 1930s Germany and the USSR (which caused their own pseudoscience problems). The aftermath was a serious loss of faith in anything labelled as science and the growing tolerance of pseudoscientific "remedies" among the broader population. When is surprising to me is how quickly the seeming surprise over the direct deaths of people from COVID have caused people to forget the dangers of such censorship and the slippery temptations for the unscrupulous.

Ivermectin is widely available in Mexico. There's no controversy around it and you can ask any pharmacist about how useful it is at the prevention and early treatment of Covid. Shame on us for not being in the same place.

@JYAN2852

2 жыл бұрын

If Ivm was accepted then vaccines would not be unleashed under EUA. It's all politics and profits. Welcome to allopathic medicine post Flexner Report 1910

@gustavrsh

2 жыл бұрын

There is a information war on ivermectin everywhere.

@luka_unleashed307

2 жыл бұрын

Is there any site that allows for the import of ivermect? Something not under the fascists purveiw? Like how J list lets you order japanese weeb products.

@aexious

2 жыл бұрын

Covid is a virus, and that is an antibiotic that works on parasites. Two totally different things.

@gaspachoo5046

2 жыл бұрын

@@luka_unleashed307 The biggest irony is this, you could literally pick it up at Tractor Supply for sheep or horses. The only difference between people and animal ivermectin is dosage. That's actually what got some people hospitalized was self perscribed overdoses.

Science like everything else has been politicized. Never be the same and I’m a scientist .

🙏 you are one of the few scientists I look to for measured, sound perspective. Please keep on defending the scientific method. 🌟🙌🙏

Thank you..just thank you! So tired of the censorship and gaslighting!

Remember to vaccinate so you protect the protected by getting the protection that's not protecting them.

@i4nic256

2 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna do that right before I don't. I'll let you know how it goes the day before yesterday.

@i4nic256

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@sandramclaughlin3943

2 жыл бұрын

So very true.

@wintervoid324

2 жыл бұрын

Others getting a vaccine doesn't really help me personally, but it does help those that need an ICU bed that are clogged by Covid patients, most of whom are unvaccinated. Personally, I could care less if other get vaccinated as long as they take responsibility if they get covid. By that I mean, if you are in the ICU and your bed is needed for a non covid patient, you surrender your bed. I also don't want to pay for your medical bills, just like we all have to wear seatbelts to keep our insurance rates down. So, if you are willing to give up your bed, and you pay your own bills, I have zero problem with anyone not being vaccinated. And yes, I feel the same way for people making other life decisions that cost society as a whole. Do what you want, but take responsibility for your choices.

@epe1238

2 жыл бұрын

@@wintervoid324 if we cleared the hospitals of people making poor life decisions we would no longer need hospitals.

Your first mistake was to assume that the scientific community was actually intelligent. You need to think of these individuals as priests deeply ensconced in an ossified religion. They worship orthodoxy, written canon, rules for excommunication, entrenched hierarchies, etc. Truly a silly cabal and a waste of time.

@alexhaussmann2078

2 жыл бұрын

Savage :)

@Denny_Boi

2 жыл бұрын

That's a bit harsh. Science has been integral to the development of our society. I also dare say you use aspects of the scientific method in your daily life for rational and logical reasoning and thinking. Are you just going to assume every single active and studying scientist is fixed in their views? Sure you get some specialists that are very fixed on a certain field that they have worked on. Understandable given they have probably worked on that specific field or idea for many years and divorcing person bias from objective criticism is challenging. Overall however, science is about changing and refining what we know about the world. Don't let a few obstinate head cases detract from that.

@tanktheta

2 жыл бұрын

@@Denny_Boi The issue is that it's not a "Few head cases" I've seen a field I once loved, that once had respect for the BLOODY TRUTH, now demand the government take my human rights. I live and see my fellow man in my own state of Victoria, get beaten and shot with rubber bullets. Simply for not wanting to take a CLEARLY untested vaccine (1 year isn't at all reasonable. 10 year minimum was the standard for a reason), while they risk their entire livelihoods being utterly obliterated for a low risk disease. This is not what science was for. Not to replace religion, law, philosophical foundations. Not to control our lives. It was meant to discover the truth and use that to improve our lives. This is no longer genuine science. I'm disgusted by it.

@evanhuizenga8626

2 жыл бұрын

@@Denny_Boi There are no problems with the scientific method, itself. As he said, the problem is with the scientific COMMUNITY.

Wow. What an amazing post-mortem (pun intended) summary of the past 2 years. We need to foster debate, not stifle it, is so wise. You have literally condensed the major problems of our society with respect to science in only 26 minutes. It ends with some pessimism., yet you have pin-pointed the essence of the problem. Not sure what the solution is, in this climate. I cannot even discuss COVID-19 with my relatives or friends anymore, without it becoming personal, political and antagonistic. I think the trust in institutions is shot (pun intended).

@16xthedetail76

2 жыл бұрын

Oh tell me about it I've tried talking about it with some of my relatives and they just get angry when I question something or suggest an alternative but because most of them just sit and watch the news, that's the only thing they think is correct. Other friends apart of social media don't even really care to debate anything or if they do they just get angry, it's insane.

Once again: so honest. Why isn't Dr. Prasad being hired as a science communicator? He's better than EVERY science communicator in the mainstream media.

Absolutely spot on and refreshing. The number of heated debates I've engaged in over the very same sentiments. It's a weird place we find ourselves in where the scientific community has formed something resembling a "priesthood", and has cordoned itself off from the "unwashed" or in this case unlearned masses. Instead of engaging and maintaining an open dialogue to educate, inform, and establish trust.

@Marth667

2 жыл бұрын

Ever talk to a flatearther? Or anyone who holds a deep distrust of any authority? How can you engage with someone who refuses to be engaged, who refuses to see or rather even consider the other side's point of view. As usual we have laymen insisting they are more learned on subjects experts have spent the better part of a decade or more learning their chosen focus. When laymen misinterpret papers, statistics or just straight up lie to enhance their paranoia with a foundation of their own 'sources' any sort of actual discourse over what the actual science is evaporates, where it devolves into a slap fight that seemingly has both sides having their view points held with equal esteem when they should not. A informed, learned viewpoint should always be considered more highly then an uninformed, ignorant viewpoint. You don't argue when the mechanic tells you, your ignition coil is shorted and you need a replacement, nor do you argue when a doctor tells you that you have cancer and you need to take radiotherapy. You accept that you don't know something and move toward the recommendation of the expert, yet when it comes to covid and vaccines for some reason laymen do their 'research' and insist they know better, why? I believe this is a government and education problem, not a science problem. People are both: ignorant of many things which is to be expected, you cannot and will not know everything hence why we specialise in life AND the public's general distrust of governments for many a good reason including but not limited to corruption, media bias and lack of transparency in government ruling. I believe it is mostly a education problem, a society that wilfully remains ignorant, wilfully set's itself up for failure.

@BSkott

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marth667 I want to agree with you, for the most part, on your comments about the horrific state of our educational institutions. But I'd have to still push back and say that you're oversimplifying the issue a bit. This is a part of it, true...but the distrust many people feel when it comes to these pharmaceutical organizations, healthcare officials, etc. etc. has in many cases been brought about by their own actions. Both with this pandemic and far earlier. To paraphrase famous orator from the '60s..."The chickens are simply coming home to roost".

The moment people started shouting "don't question the science!" Science was dead and buried.

This is exactly it! So many people saw this from the beginning and we’ve lost all trust. Thank you for speaking up!

WHO had protocols for something like this and completely abandoned every part of that plan. I find it hard to believe after decades of thought, pandemic guidelines need to change. There is no hard line in the sand for what to do depending on what severity. That's a big problem

@mar2nya789

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, like the definition of vaccine does suit our current narrative so lets change it, and what do you expect, btw talking medical practitioners look at AMA guidelines, basically how to manipulate language to suit their agenda. Unbelievable

Getting redpilled and seeing the truth is a wonderful process even if it takes time. It's so nice to see VP moving in that direction more and more every day.

@perryfroze

2 жыл бұрын

Evolution is not true and God created science and not the other way around. Where would you go if you were to die today? Seek the Lord and saviour Jesus Christ before it's too late. John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Hell is real and Heaven is also real. You don't want to spend an eternity in Hell torment without God. The only way to escape Hell is to follow Jesus Christ our Lord and saviour. Study the KJV Bible to know more and pray and seek until you find Jesus. Don't delay tomorrow might be too late. You are not promised even the next minute. Do it now

@jonson856

2 жыл бұрын

@@perryfroze Hello my fellow Christian brother. Why do you believe Evolution is not real? And why do you think the Genesis account is important to your faith in Jesus and your salvation? And why do you think you need to read Genesis literally and not literarily?

@superwhitt21

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonson856 evolution, the way it is taught in schools to children is not real. it changes every year to reflect new discoveries. trust God made it happen and just watch the atheists struggle to create new hypothesis time and time again. one area people really screwed up was calling evolution a theory instead of hypothesis. theories must be proven several times over. there is zero evidence of evolution so how is it a theory?

@Denny_Boi

2 жыл бұрын

Please don't equate being rational to being redpilled. Redpilling is a truly awful and manipulative mindset.

The trust has been destroyed.

The people you call to step forward and stand up for honest scientific debate are fundamentally “politicians” who obtain said position by patronage, avoiding controversy, and catering to the newest popular whim.

Commenting to increase popularity with the algorithm. By far the most level headed and honest exposé of how current affairs of the past year and a half have been handled

“We will never make this decisions again” we never did, they did it for us and they will again

I trust science so much that I don't believe they will use it for good.

Also nice summary of the current history of sars-cov2 treatment

@SCDeerAddict

2 жыл бұрын

Wonder why no lab can isolate and quantify a sample of sars2?

This is brilliant. I can’t believe I haven’t stumbled on this channel before.

Science has been lost for years. A few months ago was reading a few articles that indicated that the data on over 60% of the reported papers could not be repeated. To me this is a total failure.

@NickMart1985

2 жыл бұрын

The "replication crisis".

@tallard666

2 жыл бұрын

@@NickMart1985 add the biology is a social construct class of activism...

@rc8929

2 жыл бұрын

That is why it is critical for scientific conclusions and decisions be replicated in double blind studies.

Thank you for speaking the truth! If you don’t have enemies you never stood up for anything.

This video should be viewed by every professional medical, educational, and scientific influencer in social media. Absolutely spot on.

Excellent monologue, Dr. Prasad. I haven't yet heard anyone outline this tragedy -- of the disinformation campaigns around scientific inquiry -- in such a succinct way. Thank you for your thoughtful analysis and well articulated delivery. A very important contribution to this debate.

Listening to VP has made me optimistic for the future. I felt quite betrayed to read my normal sources and how they had completely went off the rails, going full-in for lockdowns and masks despite there being no or very poor evidence for those positions. But I know I'm not alone now listening to VP and seeing the comments here.

@Iamvalcristvalentine

2 жыл бұрын

dude I'm a practicing microbiologist working in biosecure laboratories. Our own policies indicate why lockdowns and masks are meaningless outside of the laboratory settings and my compatriots literally ignored their training and swallowed the narrative of Covid 19 hook line and sinker. Our methods and work literally controls for case inflation from non-diagnostic testing, while they discuss canceling work and meetings due to increased cases numbers. The scientific community failed at the first hurdle, they abandoned everything they knew and profess to be experts in, in order to be "on the right side" you should feel betrayed, we were betrayed. NEVER forget.

@baconboi4482

2 жыл бұрын

@@Iamvalcristvalentine no step on snek

I must run in the wrong circles. I just love listening to articulate speakers. I like your video. And yes I have noticed more venom in common differences of opinion. Obviously manners is not a priority in school anymore.

I would have been critical of lockdowns regardless of the President or their political parties.

@midwestribeye7820

2 жыл бұрын

Same here.

Thank you so much for this. I've been concerned about our inability to have a nuanced conversation about these issues and about the dogmatic behavior of the "science communicators". It's good to hear someone articulating these shared concerns so intelligently and gently.

“It cannot be that way!” Sadly, it is. Keep chasing the truth for us, VP ✌🏼

Awesome, awesome video. Thanks for the post Vdogg!

@ShimmyMD

2 жыл бұрын

VdoggMD! Lol

Thank you....thank you! it's REFRESHING to hear someone in the medical field speaking the TRUTH!

I feel I may not agree with you on many items but I appreciate the honesty and inspection of the state of things. The drowning of all dissent, no matter how intelligent and researched the source, only leads to the growing of mistrust and furthering of misinformation from all sides.

You are a breath of fresh air!! I don’t agree with every view point you have but I respect what you say. It’s so sad we can’t have healthy debates in science anymore.

This is the first time I'm ever commenting on a video and I'm doing so because this is the most logical, rational piece I've ever watched. I know from your podcast with ZDogg that you're on the left, I am not, however, I think that's what makes this video so valuable, it's not or at least it shouldn't be a political issue. My wife has a favorite quote of mine: "I can say whatever I want, when it's the truth!", that couldn't be further from reality at this time, and to me, this is the saddest result of the pandemic.

When anyone omits or withholds facts for fear the other side will blow facts out of proportion to distort the story, eventually the omitted facts get discovered, and the story is distorted anyway. It’s the same ending with a different path, with one distinction……truth was murdered on both sides when it didn’t need to be.

Good job man. Keep up the great work. Nice summary of the last 18 months. Applies to so many areas of discourse and not just science and I fear it’s taking us more and more down a dark path. As an aside, Ioannidis is a hero - kept telling uncomfortable truths throughout the whole time and been proven right every time.

You might find this doctor's experience interesting. Dr. Suneel Dhand - MedStoic Lifestyle Medicine

These have been my feeling this whole pandemic and VP put out such an important video. Hopefully this would spark new dialogs.

While many MD's are fantastic scientist, MD education does not typically emphasize scientific training to the same extent as PhD programs. Science & medicine are related but different fields. As a society, we error in not making this distinction and in expecting rank & file MDs to understand the nuances of scientific works. If you haven't personally designed, executed, and published 'your own research' you are simply not well equipped to navigate those waters (and even if you have done this, experience matters... more is more). At this crucial juncture in our history, it's critical that we distill and elevate the voices of our most experienced (and most courageous). A mere degree (MD or PhD) is not enough. Dr. Prasad is one of those voices we should hear (both experienced & courageous) ... thank you for your continuing efforts. It is much appreciated!

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and knowledge.

Vinay should be on TV. He'd have to edit more but he could still expound here. Except the network would want an exclusive.

@AlwayzPr0

2 жыл бұрын

He was on Mega kellys show. Which is on serous xm but that close.

I hope trust in science is restored and I would love the medical community to stand up to politicians. How will we ever trust in our public health officials if they succumb to being strong armed. Thank you for this post.

@AMotoVlogger

2 жыл бұрын

Kudos to the FDA officials who resigned citing pressure from the WH to push boosters. True patriots

@Freshbandaid

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I don’t see it. Since Obama screwed us with Obamacare/ say what you want / if you make too much and can’t afford insurance, you still get taxed. I kind feel like it’s gone down hill from there..

@TheGiantRobot

2 жыл бұрын

I think there's a misunderstanding here. It's time our politicians stood up to the medical industry/community. It's really time we the people stood up to industry and made all sorts of bribery illegal. Then we might have actual representation instead of a corporate dictatorship. This is nothing new. Vaccines have had legal immunity since the eighties. Those who questioned any of it have been known as anti-vaccine kooks. All that's changed here is it's getting more obvious as the industry flexes more power.

@christinamotz4504

2 жыл бұрын

The whole problem is medical dictatorship. In Ohio, our elected officials are paid off by health officials, hospitals, and even individual doctors are paying off state reps. This is likely so in every state. Why do doctors make $150,250,000 to begin with? Because they are hard working? No often times they rid of their patients in 5 to 10 min without care if they treated the person's issue properly and even more often they get diagnoses wrong then don't care to find the real issue. Do they get paid alot because school is long and hard? No because other careers are just as hard and require years. We the people let doctors, hospitals, and health officials get so wealthy they now can just pay off a state rep (lawmaker) who doesn't make close as much as a doctor. My vote is to cut doctors pay in half, they are nothing but dictators now. It is unsafe to get medical care, they are lying, they are killing patients. The only thing that requires blanket use of ventilators is organ donation. Covid 19 deaths are just organ harvesting, china has been doing this for a long time. Ventilators cause pneumonia, lung collapse, and more. They also keep blood flowing and the heart beating to preserve organs.

@TheGiantRobot

2 жыл бұрын

@@christinamotz4504 I agree. There are a couple ways to reduce health care costs and doctor wages to something fair. One is to remove unnecessary requirements and make enough public medical schools that you can become a doctor without debt - and to do that you have to let the government set the standards for a medical certificate, not a trade organization. Another is to have more public hospitals, like the old days.

I bet he's wearing surf shorts and flip flops in this vid.

Your KZread views are really taking off. Congrats! I listen to you more than I listen to my physician wife who’s been poisoned by FB physician mom groups.

I love the nuance and clear communication. His voice is also so great.

Always be suspicious of the things you're not "allowed" to question!

I'll never forget when my friend took me to see a university seminar on Global Warning by this fellow Dr. William Happer, an atomic physicist from Princeton University - one of the most prestigious physics universities in the world, but who had taken an interest in the subject of global warming. He explained his perspective, with his physics background he had considerable experience in computer modeling, and I'll try to summarize his point: that the current consensus on global warming is based on computer models that, as they all do, contain many parameters and estimations that a human incorporates into the model, and in this field one of the essential parameters is based on extrapolation of the current rate (fastest rate of increase ever) beyond the highest ever temperature of the planet, ignoring the possibility that the planet's natural carbon cycle may attenuate this rate and eventually reverse it, as it has done over and over through the epochs (although without the effect of human pollution). He also pointed out that the scientific community has not left space for debate on the issue, as any papers that don't confirm the consensus have zero chance to make into the literature. Instead of asking intelligent questions that poked holes in his theory, the professor was bood and heckled in a shockingly disrespectful display. I almost couldn't believe what I saw...it was so fundamentally anti-intellectual because these people so convincced the man was wrong were not even capable of articulating why. I was disappointed not to here a thoughtful and reasoned rebuttal, and could only harken back to the story of Boltzmann's grave and ponder why so many scientists have been so viscous and unreceptive to alternative positions.

I have discovered your channel this morning, so forgive me if I haven't seen all of your video's yet. I intend to watch them all ☺. I would like to thank you for sharing your knowledge and views. What I see and hear, is a scientist who does not believe that his findings & views are the only ones worth listening to. In these troublesome times where people either belong to one camp or another, I found this video refreshing. You ackwnoledge the problems we are facing as a society and you share your views in a non judging way. Thank you for that. I will be sharing this video on my social media, hoping to bring the people in my environment back together (primarily Belgium and Italy). You said all I wanted to say but didn't know how to. Thank you thank you thank you.

The real question is "Will Science survive social justice?" Given the track record of Lysenkoism...the outcome is not looking bright.

Hi Dr. Prasad, what are your thoughts on the hydroxychloroquine surgisphere scandal? In my biochem PhD program we talked about this. To this day, the FDA has cited the studies part of this scandal and themselves on their decision on HCQ.

This is the BEST video that EVERYONE needs to watch, no matter what choice to get a shot or not. We need to stop the separation in this country.

Your reasoning is sound and most welcome. Thank you for your standing for truth and being willing to take a verbal punch from those who purely seek to be divisive. Be indomitable.

When you assert that routine childhood vaccinations are important, can you point us to the science that shows children who are fully vaccinated according to the CDC schedule have overall superior health to children who are completely unvaccinated? Such studies with a completely unvaccinated control group, comparing autoimmune and neurological illnesses and cancer, seizures, autism, ADHD, etc. would go a long way toward dispelling the vaccination misinformation issue. I’ve had trouble finding such studies, but surely the CDC, responsible for ensuring vaccine safety for our children, must have many such studies available.

@HH-om4uv

2 жыл бұрын

No such study, officials claim it’s not humane to withhold vaccines from children. They don’t have the guts to do such a study.

@morgantaylor517

2 жыл бұрын

I think you know this but there are no studies. Unvaccinated kids are probably just as healthy if not more so but we aren't allowed to have this info.

@barneystinson2781

2 жыл бұрын

Vaccines literally can not cause autism. Autism is a genetic defect. I'd be interested to see a study comparing seizure and cancer rates though. I doubt there is a tangible difference, but it would be interesting nonetheless

@BaNgInHeAdS

2 жыл бұрын

Found the crazy real anti vaxxer. I think it is important to point out people like this are not the same as someone who doesn't want to get the COVID-19 vaccine. They are trying to lump people who are skeptical into the group of crazy that this person belongs to.

Science has become a religion by too many people who should know better. Scientists!!

@pbanther3902

2 жыл бұрын

Science has replaced most Religions in the USA, like fracturing cults, I agree with you completely. I have Been making the same point for months. worse thing we can do is divide rather than unite.

@ahall9839

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the classic religious response when you don't have an actual response. "Duhh... YOU'RE the religous one!!! hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"

That was a truly reflective comment on state of science. Thanks for your calm and down to earth arguments. Maybe it's not all lost if we have people like you.

Thank you as always, Dr. Prasad, for your straight-forward, thoughtful, unbiased approach to the information you share and convey. We need more courageous straight-shooters like you. As an aside, there is a certain cadence and way in which you speak that makes listening to scientific information almost a pleasure :) Keep up the good work you're doing! It's greatly appreciated!

One could study seatbelts when they are administered during or after an accident has occurred. That is basically how HCQ was studied. Also, Trump was not the only one who was not advocating for lockdowns, Many politicians were encouraging people to "go to Chinatown", "Go to the theater", "Take the subways", etc. Politics has infected science, and medicine in particular.

@dandapper2397

2 жыл бұрын

Politics have infected everything.

@jedw9496

2 жыл бұрын

Where is the study that shows HCQ is ineffective when given early?

@stewmeat92

2 жыл бұрын

These people wanted lock downs because being indoors not getting sunlight and exercising weakens ur immune system along with weight gain which a lot of people and kids gained a lot of weight. This was planned using the mainstream media to fuel emotions and fear and not use their common sense.

As a fellow Johns Hopkins Public Health alum (I was there before Bloomberg's substantial gift) I am reminded of one of my Hopkins JHH mentor's response to a question I asked about co-management of HIV & Hep C -- he smiled and added: "If you are not confused about how to take care of this case, you are just not thinking clearly." I now invest in healthcare and diagnostics after growing weary of the mindless needling and stifling of disparate opinions in academic medicine and public health. Happy to pass the baton to younger voices. Thank you for your candor. I try to begin my day with prayer, a run with my dog and then yoga with her, and then finish with your latest commentary or that of ZDoggMD. As a former UCSF person, I am glad to see that UCSF is not squashing you, but hopefully private philanthropy helps with that.

Thanks a lot Vinay Prasad for a logical objective analysis of what we living today! And the people who commented below are some of the most well read, knowledgeable and respectful on the whole KZread!

I’m reading all the comments, and am so impressed with the quality of them! No name calling, labeling, or ugly reactionary comments. I think it’s because of the way you are, Dr. P. You attract critical thinkers. Thank you for being so logical, rational, intelligent, clear, thoughtful and thank you for your inclusive attitude.

The politics of science is where the problems have been, the media presentation of the science is the problem, science itself has been fine, for the most part at least. The fact that this has been politicized since the beginning means we shouldn't ever expect there to be any 'honesty' about what is going on.

Are there more than a handful of doctors with a moral compass? It does not appear to be so.

Thank you for bringing some much needed sanity and sensibility into this deeply polarized conversation.

Simply superb commentary. Debate is the crucible of intellectual and scientific progress. Without it, we can never discover genuine truth. Subbed.

This type of thinking has been around for a long time. It is similar to questioning Affirmative Action because of clear data on it having downsides or suggesting that all ethnic groups are capable of acquiring an ID. Not really that crazy to believe those things, but people will immediately close their minds because they think their viewpoint makes them a virtuous person. Perhaps really talking about the issues may really be beneficial to those affected (not the privileged progressive opposed to debate).

I trust this man more than I trust the CDC blip below his video that Google put there.

you and dr suneel dhand are the voice of reason from the scientific medical community

This was insightful, well spoken, and intelligent. Brilliantly spoken and I hope more people end up seeing this. Your perspective of consideration and a return to actual science is much needed!

I do not know what the answer is, but we have to find a common ground. I enjoy that there are people that are making available scientific information to the general public in a way they can understand. However, as good as this is, if all that information is basically censored, then I think that information has to go back into the annals of medical and science journals. We simply can not have people's careers ruined because of the woke atmosphere of today.

As a regular joe, I say no. In my world the science and medical establishments have taken a hit in credibility that they will likely never recover from with most people I know. I dont think many people even trust their family doctors right now as much as they used to.

@gaspachoo5046

2 жыл бұрын

indeed, nothing short of the total destruction of the current system will be able to atone for the damage that has been done, much less repair it.

Finally a voice of calm reason amongst so much chaotic darkness in the world. Liked, commented & subscribed!

Interesting man! Yes, if we would have talked about the issue we could have been much much closer to figuring this disease out,True!

@tallard666

2 жыл бұрын

There's also a constant stream of pundits claiming that "in 2020 we didn't know enough, now in 2021 we know more so we can make better decisions". So I'm glad Vinay brought it back to December 2019 and the first months of 2020, many of us were already following statistics abroad in early 2020. The age stratification was known early. The comorbidities were known early. The unique symptoms (blueing skin and olfactory lapse) were known early 2020. In early 2020, we knew of the US and Canada financing gain of function in that Wuhan lab, because that type of research had been banned over here. We knew all the pandemic plans were being scrapped because they weren't profitable. We knew the entire field of science disagreed with effectiveness of masking for respiratory virus protection (dentists and doctors spent years dispelling those empty hopes). Yet, people are still claiming "we didn't know".

@HoratioFitzbastard

2 жыл бұрын

@@tallard666 While the whole time bullying people to 'follow the science',

Maybe the people making decisions on public health should actually be doctors that treat real live patients instead of researchers and bureaucrats in lab coats.

Bright and entertaining 'scientist.' Don't know how many papers he's written or how many medical/scientific journal editorial boards he has sat on but when I look at Drs Peter Mccullough's and Paul Marik's clinical experience and scientific journal contributions, I tend to side with the more senior medical practitioners. If Dr Prasad is auditioning to be a 'science communicator', he's doing very well. If, on the other hand, he's using his mind and talents to heal the sick then I would respect him more. Since the AMA was organized by JD Rockefeller in 1930, medicine and its sister Big Pharma has been corrupted. When I was in med school in the 80's, the MBA's took over running hospitals, healthcare systems, and physicians started to lose their clinical autonomy. Now, medicine is a business, and though a whopping 17% of GDP, the performance of the US health care system as a whole is 26th in the world, near Costa Rica. Dr Prasad's insights and observations are listenable but believe the premise of this presentation is that science is good for us. When I look at CERN, MIC, NASA et al....i do not get the sense their scientific discoveries and applications are for the good of humanity.

Vinay, I have watched several of your videos over the last week. I have to say it is refreshing to hear someone who is self proclaimed as left leaning speak about these issues without allowing your political ideas influence your search for the truth. Thank you for telling it like it is whether people on the right or on the left agree with it. It seems to me that you are fair in your search for truth.

At this point I’m leaning towards “fuck science and let the chips fall where they may” I just don’t care anymore, scientists and journalists are absolutely untrustworthy

I have lost trust in the medical ecosystem that includes GPs, TGA, and so-called immune specialists. I am learning and building knowledge of herbs, alternate natural treatment, lifestyle changes, and aligning with mother nature.