boys why you gotta make me worry about jerry after this A+ offseason

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

We’re worried about it too 😢

@Potter5416

5 ай бұрын

Jerry may wish to work for a organization who’s not in financial flux

So we traded Suarez just to go back and get a guy that is very similar to what we had with Suarez? Spend it on Snell and go with Urias or Rojas.

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

That’s always another option too!

@golfmaniac007

5 ай бұрын

Don’t forget Chapman has a qualifying offer also

Matt Chapman 3 years, 60 mil? Why not just keep Geno at 11 mil? They aren’t that different as players

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

Unfortunately you can’t just trade back for him, so you take what you can get/need

@Covert_Smalls

5 ай бұрын

@@MarineLayerPod Of course. It's a comment on roster planning & construction. It was clear in November that the main FA alternatives to Geno would be comparable in production, but more expensive. That said, I doubt they're signing Chapman (or anyone)

@jayrah33

5 ай бұрын

Geno only had 1 year left on his deal so to get any value for him moving forward, a trade had to happen sooner than later. Used him to upgrade the floor at catcher and potentially really start to be able to manage Cal's usage, along with a high-ceiling reliever. Idk if that type of relief for Cal was available on the FA market, so that's a bit of an underrated move. Also, though they are similar players, Chapman's track record on defense and career power numbers are much more likely to be replicated (in Seattle, at least) at age 30/31 than Geno's the last couple of years at age 32/33.

Oh and guys remember one thing. It's not what you know but who you know in life. Just look at the beautiful sport of baseball. I had a coach that was associated with a major league team during spring training. He once told me the following. "There are so many guys in the minors who deserve a legit shot at the majors who will never get a sniff of ball above AA....they just don't know the right people.."

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

All very true!

Having a gold glove defense at 3rd would be good but he is only getting older and defense already regressed last year according to drs. If we do this, what are you going to do with urias? send him and his 5m to AAA?

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

Or trade him. The prerogative is not signing him to anything past 3 years

@npw9648

5 ай бұрын

@@MarineLayerPod urias was a dfa candidate before we traded for him, I don’t see any team taking him

Agree with the comment above about who you know. That’s why it’s so important to network with as many folks as possible. The Jerry/Scott news is very unsettling 😬

Can't believe you guys were even debating whether it is better to add Chapman now and have a 4 win player for a FULL season vs. trading for a guy that will only be on the team for TWO months. The new midseason addition would have to put up 4 WAR in 2 months, a 12 Win season pace to just Equal a full season of Chapman. You always add in the offseason if you can. No brainer

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

Trading for someone at the deadline doesn’t mean they are a rental. What if you really need a starter at the deadline and now if you sign Chapman just can’t get one?

I'm trying to think of there being a worse ownership situation, other than Oakland or Pittsburgh...

Loved the collaboration with Locked On! Should do more together and see what comes of it

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

We enjoyed it too! Look forward to doing more in the future.

Honestly I would love to have Jose Ramirez then Chapman and Nolan from the cards. I know he would cost more in theory but I think we could do a package like offering Urias and Hancock and cole young for him. We would be much more rounded because he has speed and higher avg and power and he plays good defense as well.

Idc what happens to the M's as long as Ichiro becomes the skipper

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

That would be something 😂

Rojas and Urías is a 3-4 win platoon. Use the money for another arm.

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

Well if it is 3-4, then yes don't sign Chapman. But if it's only 2? then you consider

Scott Servais and Lou Piniella, both started the first 8 seasons with 5 winning seasons and 3 losing seasons. Lou had 2 more playoff appearances than Scott. Scott deserves some credit for someone who never managed a team before starting with M’s. Lou had a WS ring with the Reds as a manager before joining the M’s. Going back to Bill Bavasi and Jack Zduriencik days would be SEVERAL steps backward for the M’s. Note that Lou Piniella and Pat Gillick both quit on their own terms. Jerry Dipoto, Justin Hollander, and Scott Servais look to stay. Ownership should recognize long term success by sticking with them. Fans can’t deny that this is a winning culture with Jerry + Justin and Scott despite ownership restrictions.

Red Sox’s Alex Cora’s contract expires at the end of the season. Could Dipoto-Hollander-Servais team move to Boston?

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

Let’s hope not

@williamquemuel7824

5 ай бұрын

@@MarineLayerPod You should do a podcast on who the M”s should get if they fire DIpoto-Hollander-Servais team, then do another one on who the M’s shouldn’t get. Right now, the Red Sox would be a good spot for the Dipoto team. They have a little bit more salary for Dipoto to play with and the Red Sox are not affected by the Bally Sports RSN.

You have to spend money to make money.

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

This is true

Maybe Jerry is holding up the contract renewal. Fire John Stanton !

I think you got it wrong. I think ownership could not do better with constant payroll cuts, etc. There are 2 sides in a negotiation and Jerry is negotiating what he wants and if he can’t get it he may go elsewhere. I don’t think the ownership is trying to find a replacement because that would be insanely stupid from their perspective. Are they going to attract a better FO with the resources and the nonsensical changes they make? No

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

Some good points here. This will be an ongoing discussion as long as there's no contract

@isoar4781

5 ай бұрын

@@MarineLayerPod To be clear, I wasn’t trying to be nasty, just clarifying that I think there is a better chance Jerry is asking for clarity on payroll, etc. moving forward. I believe ownership would be insane to dump Jerry thinking they could do better with someone else with the shenanigans they continually pull.

I really like a trade for Max Kepler. We should send Emerson Hancock, Taylor Trammell, Dylan Moore, and Sam Haggerty to the Twins. The M’s can sign a FA pitcher like Trevor Bauer to backfill Emerson Hancock. Ask ownership for money to get Matt Chapman. Adding Kepler, Bauer, and Chapman would put the M’s in a good position for the playoff spot.

Chapman goes 100% against the whole 54% and looking long term for the franchise. They need another OF

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

Hey if Cody Bellinger’s price tag goes way down sign us up for that too!

Dipoto is in the driver seat. If he wants to stay I’d imagine he stays.

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

Agree, would be curious which side is balking at this

1 playoff appearance in 8 seasons fellas not 9, unless you guys have already dismissed them from making the 2024 postseason 😜 lol

Y’all need to listen to Freddie Gibbs

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for the suggestion! We'll take a listen

We should get CJ Crom

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

Not sure he fits this roster

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

Not sure if he fits the needs of the roster these days

Uhhhhh truck…driven by uhhhh….Scott boras…

I want Blake Snell not Chapman. I want Urias to get a shot at 3rd this season.

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

Another very good option!

Jerry needs to separate himself from scott servais, bad skipper he lets the offense get beanballed every year ⚾️🤕

Mitch Haniger is definitely the weakest hitter, there is no question he's hitting 9th probably even without Chapman

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

Would guess Mitch isn't hitting 9th. When healthy he can still be a very impactful bat

They don’t start the Dipoto discussion until 11:00. Make Dipoto go away. No more Graveman/Sewald disasters.

@MarineLayerPod

5 ай бұрын

Timestamps are always in the description for those who want to skip ahead!

@kaitykaity

5 ай бұрын

@@MarineLayerPod - thanks.

@kevinmichael4829

5 ай бұрын

Jerry traded 1.5 years of a relief pitcher for 17 years worth of young controllable players. Rojas, Canzone and Bliss is greater than Sewald.

@kaitykaity

5 ай бұрын

@@kevinmichael4829 - you are not taking into account the damage Jerry does to the clubhouse. Sewald was intrinsic and then he was gone.

Soon much whining that it hurt