Will it start? Oliver OC 46 track loader sitting for 10 years with seized injection pump
Introducing the Oliver OC 46 tracked loader to the channel. I bought it as part of a package deal with Skinny, the Case 310 crawler dozer parts machine. Neither were running but this Oliver diesel engine was free and spinning. The previous owner told
me it has been sitting for at least 10 years.
Will it start without an injection pump?
Will it run long enough to determine if the engine and hydraulic system are viable enough to warrant the expense of an injection pump rebuild?
Shout out to Todd Stauffer (@DadyRat) of Stauffer Diesel (@staufferdieselincstadco3873) for his technical help evaluating and diagnosing the engine. (I’m fairly new to diesels systems)
Shout out to my son Stephen and nephew Kieth for hauling Skinny and the Oliver for me.
The starter I bought on eBay for $99 was listed as a starter for a New Holland Skid Steer L783 with a Perkins 4-203.
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its always great to see some one bring old trackers back to life
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the channel! Thanks for watching.
Give Area Diesel Service a call and see if they can rebuild your pump. That is what they specialize in. Check out the injection pump and turbo they did for Diesel Creek. Very old machines. They have a KZread channel. Yes. Would like to see more. Nice machine to restore. Worth the investment. Cheers.
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the referral!
@mabloodhound
11 ай бұрын
I'll second that vote for Area Diesel @@northeastoutpost
Want more of the Oliver 😊
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Welcome to the channel
Thank you for not playing dumb ass filler music like most other YT channels do
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback. I will note this for the future as well
Yes the Oliver deserves it's day! get that pump sent off to Area Diesel and get her fixed!
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
Ollie Dee. For Oliver Diesel
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion!
You can get parts for the OC46 from Zimmerman Oliver Cletrac in Ephrata Pennsylvaina. There are 3 versions of that engine so you need the engine serial number for internal parts. Hercules engines are not related to Perkins engines in any way.
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the channel! I had the pleasure of taking to the folks at Zimmerman’s a few weeks ago about my situation and found them very knowledgeable. Thanks for the heads up about Hercules engines and incompatibility with Perkins engines.
@robertbarbour3782
Жыл бұрын
You have a good little machine there, It also has an auxillery transmission, which can be a reverser or hi lo transmission. Its easy to tell when you get it running.@@northeastoutpost
Oh yea the Cosby sauce is a sure thang a couple of snorts an yull know great video 👍👍
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
😂
Sweet it run
Great video ! 👍
@SteveMoitozo2
Жыл бұрын
Thank you and welcome to the channel!
Love those old Oliver's let's see this thing work......
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
I’ll keep you posted!
Pretty green antifreeze dripping out of it an every big name , Cummins cat,mack, Detroit,an more sold there stuff with eather kits on most of it just as long as you dont cosby sause it to death than your good ...👍👍😊
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Welcome to the channel
@joshjones3408
11 ай бұрын
@@northeastoutpost an Glad I run across it it's good stuff 👍😉
I have a 1962 Oliver 550 tractor that I call "Ollie". It is a really nice machine. I bought it refurbished from a retired farmer that likes doing that kind of thing. If you want you can call your's "Ollie" also. I think my Ollie would like having a sibling. Bob
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
A sibling, I like that. Thanks for watching!
A clip borad would work prefict for a run away just saying iv seen em eat rags granted they where a lot bigger that ol pocket rocket there 👍👍👍👍 great video 👍👍👍
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Good idea
Would love to see more of this machine getting repaired and back in service. Pacific Northwest hillbilly rebuilt a cat dozer that had a hydraulic pump on the front and squatch253 just rebuilt a d2 cat and did a full restoration of it , and I agree with to others Area diesel service is a good place to send the injector pump.
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the encouragement and the recommendation!
I'm fixing to subscribe brother love old iron wasn't old when I started got bless you brother good luck with channel praying that it will prosper brother like ole Harley lol
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the channel! Any nickname suggestions for the Oliver?
@jayjones6904
Жыл бұрын
@@northeastoutpost heck ole blue sounds the best unless you rattlecan it another color stay free brother
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
Third vote for “Ol’ Blue”
She's a runner!
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Indeed. Now if we can get her running on her own that’d be swell
Ye ol hose clamp trick!👌
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Ha ha!
I have a gas OC46 I rebuilt & painted. I got lots of parts from Zimmerman's. They will do lots of heavy work. The Hydraulics are quick too.
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the referral to Zimmerman’s. Yes, they are quite knowledgeable! I’m looking forward to getting this rig to work.
Looking forward to the next video of Blueberry
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the channel!
Starter seemed to work OK. If it starts skipping you might look at changing that shim between it and the bell housing to something thinner if the flywheel will allow more gear engagement.
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I wasn’t sure it was going to work well since the ring gear looked dinged up. But I’m really pleased with this starter. It was listed as a starter for a New Holland Skid Steer L783 with a Perkins 4-203. I got it for $99 on eBay.
Ollie for the win sir.
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for input!
Old Blue is great name cheers
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
ole blue i think would be a good name
look up zimmerman oliver cletrac for parts and you can get pump rebuilt if you look up hercules dd130 diesel pump. pricey but rare machine in diesel.
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips! The folks at Zimmerman Oliver Cletrac are indeed helpful!
Put a pump on it that motor solid 😊
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
May it be so!
nice dozer😅❤
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
I’d call it green, because yellow and blue make green and it would be fun to see how many people caught the reference lol
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
😂
“Babe the Blue Oliver”
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
Yes
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Indeed!
Babe The Blue OX, Paul Bunyan's ttrusty sidekick.
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion!
Hey, good name will be a little blue
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the suggestion!
nice
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
Ox is a good name
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
Well if the bucket stated up long then 4 hours it cause permit pump damage....my oli lady mit leave me if I was a badass little crawler an couldn't get it up ...all you could do is just crawl around all day your friends stop by what you do to Day aw just crawl around....I know am stupid....3 time Iv watched it tho 👍 steal a Great video 👍👍👍
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Welcome to the channel. The bucket is supported with a piece of C-channel. It’s not being held up by the pump or the valves.
For a moment there I thought it had actually started on diesel until you started batting at the controls!
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
There was indeed a moment where it sounded proper for sure. But the injection pump wasn’t even in the machine!
@TestECull
Жыл бұрын
@@northeastoutpost Not even sounded proper, it smoked black like it sucked fuel in rather than ether. But hey the machine's viable and the engine's internally healthy enough so that injection pump's worth fixing/rebuilding!
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
Indeed! Now to find a workable injection pump (or a good rotor head and driveshaft). I hope my next video is about installing the pump and operating the machine!
@TestECull
Жыл бұрын
@@northeastoutpost I don't know if your budget allows, but you could send it off to Area Diesel Services. they've gone through injection pumps on other KZreadr's old iron and made 'em run right as rain again. I imagine it isn't cheap, but what they would send back would effectively be brand new. kzread.info/dash/bejne/h65suaOjqpW2nqw.html
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the lead! BTW, have any nickname suggestions for the Oliver?
Do a compression test to see if it can run. Then check valve adj. Right?
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Not a bad idea. A leak down would be even better
Babe the blue loader, like babe the blue ox
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thank yoI for the suggestion!
Get her running 👍
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
I will try!
Hot potato thats a frist an that's pretty cool ...if i had it id name it Viagra keep it around about 4 hours an get read if it 😮😅i just wount treat it like you said every body eals did that's how you ger sumthang you cant give back ... parts house want take ol warn out parts back 😆😆😆 all jokes aside it's a pretty cool little dozer hot potato fits it to...,👍👍👍👍👍
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
😂
Hercules and Perkins are the same motor Perkins diesel motors are still made today my dad started out in excavating with those Oliver machines
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
Interesting. The starter I installed cross-referenced to the starter for a Perkins (4-203 I think).
@rossgray3070
Жыл бұрын
Hercules were US made, Perkins are Pommie, but owned by Caterpillar nowadays.
Send the injection pump to Area Diesel service and let them take a look.
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the referral. I’ve been hearing their name a lot!
Did the Oliver cost you same amount as the D2 Cat? I'd like to see your restoration progress on the Oliver track loader. Looks like Ford blue !
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Hot Potato (the yellow machine at the beginning of the video) is a Case 310. I bought the Oliver OC 46 together with another Case 310 (a narrow gauge version I call Skinny). I’m currently trying to source an injection pump (or a drive shaft and rotor head) for the Oliver.
Send the injector pump to Area Diesel Service, Carlinville, Ill for a rebuild
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lead!
The RH track on the Case dozer is on backwards, will chew thru the sprockets and bushes in no time.
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
😮 I never noticed that! That’s the track haven’t had off (yet). I’m curious, what causes this to speed up the wear process?
@rossgray3070
Жыл бұрын
@@northeastoutpost There is some good vids on U tube that explain it all.
@northeastoutpost, new edition/oliver name: "babe" or "ol' blue."
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the channel. Thank you for the name submissions. Babe is a new one. “Ol’ Blue” is in the running along with Ollie.
Why not Oliver? it's written on it!
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
You have a point!
Ol' Blue
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
@jeroensmit2520
11 ай бұрын
@@northeastoutpost thank you for the nice content!
Call it the Blue Turd
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
😂
I would name that Blue Tractor Babe. After babe the blue ox. From Paul bunion and babe the blue ox. Sounds appropriate right
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion!
I also do believe yanmar motors are made by the Perkins motor company..
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I wonder what might be interchangeable from Perkins to the old Hercules I have.
@jonp1116
11 ай бұрын
Not correct. Yanmar is made by yanmar and they aren’t owned by anybody. Perkins is owned by caterpillar
You only give a diesel a sniff of starter fluid once in a while. You drowned that poor thing, and lucky you didn't lock it up. It takes a lot of cranking to get heat built up in the cylinders to ignite the fuel. Thats why older diesels have pony moters to warm them up before turning on the fuel for them to actually start. Put that either can down for awhile and crank that engine to build up some friction heat, then only like a 1/2 second sniff of either.
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
You’re right. Took me a little while to figure that out.
Paul Bunyon blue ox (BABE)
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the suggestion
next time use two cans of either and see how that works out for you
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
😂
Area Diesel Illinois for your pump
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for lead!
Yes it do want to c more but it won't b doing if u use all that stuff in can lol
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
🙂
You will be lucky if there are any upper ring lands left in it.
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Stay tuned…
Hercano in Ohio for Hercules parts
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
Baby Smirf
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Nice! Thanks for the suggestion
Old Blue
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
how about great ape, even though its small, but after the cartoon ape...
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
THE BLUE MULE?
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
Call it blue bull
Call it confusion. It was yellow now it's blue.
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
🤣 I know, right?
call it " Blue Devil""
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the suggestion! It actually hits for me since I was a Blue Devil.
U want area diesel and have a word
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Thank you
Also, you were hitting the wrong terminal on the starter, you were hitting the ground. Hit the solenoid terminal with the power
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
Worth fixing
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
I hope so!
Blueberry
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the suggestion!
Viagra i no it want happen but it fits 👍👍👍👍
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Funny
yeah get old bluey back to work again,
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
Welcome to the channel
Papa smurf
@northeastoutpost
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote
Little bucket
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
You know what they say, “Little loader, little bucket”. :)
Skinny potato
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
😂 nice!
les talk more work
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
🙂 message received
Geezus buddy you were drowning it in ether....you wouldn't even let it come down to an idle...
@northeastoutpost
11 ай бұрын
I know, right? It took me a little bit to figure that out