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" *DOZENS of studies raising health concerns for red meats and processed meats come out* ": * I sleep* * who cares?* " *ONE study raising the same exact concerns for processed meat alternatives comes out* ": * I awake* * starts yelling at vegans* People just love to be given reasons hate anything they are unfamiliar with , if they trully cared about health they would be looking at the whole picture .
@exaris1989
Ай бұрын
Mixing red meat with processed meat is the same mistake as this research does with “fake meats”. If you read original article on “who” and then meta research this article based on, you will see that in most cases research was done on processed meat or processed meat+red meat. Research only on red meat in “normal” amounts (not 300-400g of red meat per day) doesn’t show bad effects for health, or shows effect that linked with other sources, not meat.
@scienceislove2014
Ай бұрын
@@exaris1989they didn't get anything confused.. They've clearly write- Processed meat is type one carcinogen and red meat is type two carcinogen... Moreover they're notoriously high in sat fat which is linked with increasing the risk of cvd and others causes of mortality
@exaris1989
Ай бұрын
@@scienceislove2014 type 2 means not carcinogen. Well, it actually means “probably not carcinogen”, but for something so well-researched and eaten basically anywhere it means exactly that. Yes, theoretically if you eat on average 350+g a day you will have problems, but this is very high dose if you are not on a carnivore diet. So saying that dozens of studies are rising concerns for red meat is not really true.
@reinadelaluz1573
29 күн бұрын
And they’re still yelling about seed oils and crop deaths when they’ve both been disproven. 😑
@portis6
11 күн бұрын
@@exaris1989Was the research on grass-fed red meats, or grain-fed meats? There's a huge difference between those two, it might not be processed but they still feed cows with processed grain product. As far as my knowledge about Meat, red meat is not bad for your body in the amount of 350g - 400g, it actually heals your body, (intestinal health in particular) from all the artificial toxins trauma you've put your body through. I've never seen or even heard of a research saying that grass-fed red meat is bad for you, it may give you diarrhea for a few days if you suddenly go full carnivore, because your body is trying to adapt to the carnivore diet, it is recommended to go easy first and not go right into carnivore. I'm against that crappy soy fake meat propaganda that is being talked about. Vegans complaining that the investigation about processed meats are not being visible anymore and that their fake soy crap meat are healthier.
I hate how many people are hopping on the "fake meats are processed and not the real deal so they're harmful" train.
@GarudaLegends
Ай бұрын
It is not real and is unhealthy. Lol. It is a fact. The destination of the 🚆 is heading into the town called "Reality".
@hannahmitchell87
Ай бұрын
Same! The discussion around processed foods in general is lacking nuance imo
@VeggoFix
Ай бұрын
This!
@langreeves6419
Ай бұрын
I hate how people think vegans have to eat gross mock products. I'm glad it is available. I'm not against people having options. But most vegans I know do not eat mock meats. I eat fake bacon a couple times a year when I crave a BLT. But most of time, it's beans, peas, grains, vegetables, fruits, and raw nuts/seeds.
@squidleyskidley
Ай бұрын
@@langreeves6419most vegans I know do eat some mock meats. But it’s def fewer than meat-eaters eat servings of meat.
I hope that one day, not too far from now, it will be cool again for a journalist to check their sources and not use clickbaity titles. One can hope, amirite?
Christopher Gardener actually ran a very cool study on this! Comparing animal meat burgers to beyond burger... the meat alternative came out MUCH better than the animal burger.
I also loved the headline "vegans are slowly killing themselves" I didnt read the article, because I thought its probably just gonna be something dumb and now I dont wanna google it xD
@GarudaLegends
Ай бұрын
Meat eaters do live far longer than vegan.
@baganbobik9312
Ай бұрын
@@GarudaLegendsproof link?
@pradlark
Ай бұрын
@@GarudaLegends actually the opposite
@langreeves6419
Ай бұрын
@@GarudaLegendsyou keep repeating that. I hate to inform you, but repeating a lie does NOT make it true
@GarudaLegends
Ай бұрын
@@baganbobik9312 google supercentenarians. Non of them are vegan, which is funny but obvious. They are mostly meat eaters with a decent amount of vegetarians. Not a single vegan. ROTF. The country with the height life expectancy also consumes the most meat. You also have the Blue Zones which are all meat eating diets culturally and nationally. You also have Adventists who are healthy from a vegetarian diet, not a vegan diet. Meat eaters live the longest, and vegetarian live the second longest. Not vegans. I laugh when vegans actually think their diet is even health to begin with. It is literally comparable to a processed Standard Western Diet 🤣
Even the updated headline (along with the image of Beyond Meat) is absolutely gross. It's really sad to see all this misinformation.
The _"daily mail"_ and the _"new york post"..._ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kristinmhowitt6305
Ай бұрын
@@MdoubleHB12 literally what is wrong with you
@highlander200268
19 күн бұрын
she lied, they were not from them, those sites were reporting them not that makes a difference, the studies were done properly ie however food surveys which are not causal, but alas the ingredients provides the body with high inflammation.... she doesnt know anything about basic science or nutrition
@highlander200268
19 күн бұрын
@@MdoubleHB12 infact humans are hypercarnivore this is confirmed via stable isotope testing of n13/14/15 nor your vegan bullshit you like to throw around, frugivore isnt even a catagory.. herbivore is non acidic ph stomach humans very acidic stomach 1.3/1.5
Guess I'll die
@GnosticAtheist
Ай бұрын
You know, its the only sentence a person can utter with confidence. Also taxes.
@GarudaLegends
Ай бұрын
Any why meat eaters live longer. Sorry. A human life is more important than animals.
@strawbraryliberry4604
Ай бұрын
@GarudaLegends Why is a humans life more important than an animals? I've never seen any reason to believe that. Also I don't think the data reflects that meat eaters live longer, in fact one of the more famous studies vegans love to cite on longevity, is the China study (which I have my criticisms of tbh) and the Okinawans ate a mostly plant based diet and had the longest lifespan on average. They had the most people to live to be over 100 on earth when their cultural diet was almost completely plants. While vegetarians & vegans consistently seem to have a lower chance of heart disease & certain cancers on many many studies? I'm actually not a vegetarian anymore, I was for 20 yrs & vegan for 4, but I just think you're wrong & want to make you think. I mostly eat vegetarian anyway, despite not being one.
@zwiebeldogs
Ай бұрын
@GarudaLegends I'd agree that one human life is worth more than one animal life. But how many animals have you eaten?
@GarudaLegends
Ай бұрын
@@strawbraryliberry4604 The Okinawans ate meat liberally, and the China Study is based on meat eaters and vegetarians. It has littleto do with vegans. Thank you for proving my point that meat eaters live longer. Let me ask you this. If 5 random piglets were stuck in one room of a burning buliding, with a random infant(human)that you do not know was stuck in another room in the same burning building, and you could ONLY save the human baby or the 5 piglest, would you save the random 5 piglets or the one random human baby?
Thank you so much for covering this! I was not looking forward to being nagged on by my family after these stories posted.
@jaimeek9955
Ай бұрын
Same. My dad is a conspiracy theorist especial.
Not gonna stop me from getting impossible whoppers for whopper Wednesdays 😂
@hannahmitchell87
Ай бұрын
Whopper Wednesdays 😂 love it! It's not gonna stop me getting non dairy deliciousness for Ice Cream Sundays either!
@tudormiller887
Ай бұрын
McVegan burgers ? 🤔
Had me laughing when you said "f*ck off". I totally over the b*llshit, lol. Fun watch. ❤
Oh please. Most of these have been out for like 2 minutes. How could they possibly even have long term studies yet? Already yelling this before even watching more than the intro.
@zahraa4149
Ай бұрын
@@MdoubleHB12 dude, get a life
my dad last weekend asked me to check out one article and tell him what I think about it. the article in question (written in Polish FYI) was theoretically based on this study, but it was soooo much worse than the articles you've shown. instead of claiming that it's the meat alternatives that make you sick, it said that it is lab grown meat from Bill Gates' laboratory and burgers made out of bugs(?!). what in the actual f*ck??? I knew right away that something was not right, I thought that they probably fiddled with data to get to such conclusion or something like that. but when I found the original study and it didn't mention lab grown meat at all (let alone Bill Gates or bugs xD), I was shocked. it's really scary to think that thousands and thousands of people like my dad just believe this stuff when they read it, especially when they don't know English and are unable to verify anything for themselves. he is not an unintelligent man and I know that he is intelectually honest, and it makes it even more terrifying...
@suchnothing
Ай бұрын
Haha bug-based foods are not even vegan. What a weird article.
@hihihi45ify
Ай бұрын
An anecdote that we can all learn from! Thank you for the comment! ( so many on KZread suck).
@Erundilme
Ай бұрын
@suchnothing yeeeah, they didn't really care about veganism, they just wanted to fear monger about elites that want to poison and slowly kill you :/
@konnanina
Ай бұрын
These people can vote...
@Erundilme
Ай бұрын
@MdoubleHB12 nobody asked your opinion, get lost 👋
So, here's yet _another_ example, of how the corporations-bought _"media"_ twists around any data, with some... _"mathematics"_ of their own. Typical, to _that_ sort of... _"newspapers"(???)._ 🙃 An *Excellent* short vid Swayze.👍🏻❤️
I don't understand why some parents think feeding their kids ultra processed garbage two molecules away from plastic is somehow more virtuous that feeding them whole foods that might include a bit of dairy or meat. It honestly boggles the mind.
@jonahwhale9047
Ай бұрын
Because of the rights violations of other beings involved in the product of animal products. And, no, vegan products aren't "two molecules away from plastic". I don't understand why some parents think feeding their kids corpses full of actual pus, parasites, viruses & urea, literally one step away from shit, when they could be feeling them whole plant foods instead. And not put said animals through hell & premature murder.
@Aylinnrae
Ай бұрын
Yep I never eat processed meat, just fresh steaks, ground beef, organ meats, etc :-) Everything high processed is bad for you
@jonahwhale9047
Ай бұрын
@@Aylinnrae That's kind of selfish of you, "beef" & organs are kind of bad for the cows put through hell & prematurely murdered to produce them. Rice, lentils, beans, potatoes etc are all unprocessed. Meanwhile, even grass fed beef are pumped full of highly processed supplements, & medicines.
@mac387
Ай бұрын
@Aylinnrae do you actually consider that to be "a bit of dairy or meat"?
@mac387
Ай бұрын
A difference of 2 molecules can actually be a HUGE difference
Nothing will ever beat Whole Foods Vegan including mock meats.
Dr. Chris Gardner from Stanford has done head-to-head studies comparing read meat to Beyond Meat (with product provided by Beyond Meat, I believe) and the studies found that cardiovascular risk factors would go down on Beyond Meat compared to red meat. As you said there are many different types of mock meats, but the vast majority seem to have less saturated fat than their animal product counterparts.
@darrenvail8726
Ай бұрын
People are eating meat and curing their heart disease with saturated fat. Check it out yourself.
I am really tired of people using the naturalistic fallacy against or in favor of veganism. What does "natural" even mean?
@user-nz4un6se7y
Ай бұрын
It means something one's evolvled in. If you look at the history of our species you could notice e.g. we've lived however long in the presence of oxygen. Given the evolution, our bodies might or might not have got a dependence of some sort on it. This necessity is a spectrum and can vary from something we have to have in order to survive or simply beneficial. From here on different methods can be used to assess this information. So when you hear "it's natural for us to breathe oxygen" it simply means "We've been conditioned by the presence of oxygen to have the structures inside our bodies that require it. With oxygen we know this dependency is absolute and happened x years ago (when incorporation of mitochondria happened)". What exactly do you not understand here? I know the word natural sometimes means literally everything because everything can be seen under the umbrella of nature but it's not the case here. Here, natural is object specific i.e. what's natural for some, might not be for others.
Could you please do a reaction to this video by Chris Williamson title ''The Awful Consequences Of Raising Your Child Vegan - Max Lugavere'' it's a clip of his interview with Lugavere. I found it so disappointing since I have seen many of Williamson's videos and found them to be insightful and well thought out. But seeing that video just made me question everything about him and his reasoning. He even goes onto represent Alex (cosmic skeptic) referring to him as someone who abandoned veganism completely because it was a bad diet (there is way more nuance to the story than that! I would never refer to Alex as a 'failed' vegan, he did his best but in the end it was not practical for him and I respect that). Anyway, would love to see your reaction to this video!
Depends what's in the fake meat- obviously! Sugar, salt and oil will kill ya no matter where it is. Put it in meat and dairy for a DOUBLE whammy! And preservatives, fillers, colourings are bad no matter how you eat them.
Gawd, why isn’t there some sort of law that requires media to back up their claims by citing peer reviewed studies? Oh wait…
4:37 OLD VEGANS UNITE! That was the vegan world years ago…modern vegan choices (grumble, grumble) 😂
@TGbear21
Ай бұрын
FOR REAL!!! lol I’m sitting here now, eating vegan Boursin cheese dip with my little crackers, happy as can be that we have come so far! 😂
“Fuck off” Great video ♥️
Thank you Swaze :)
A lot of the foods listed as "plant-based ultra processed foods" were not even vegan!! They contained eggs and milk but were primarily made of plants: "We considered plant-sourced foods as all foods exclusively or primarily of plant origin (e.g., fruits, vegetables, grains, breads)" PAGE 3 of study!
Thanks for this. I started down this path because I wanted to get away from a diet based on animal predation, not because I'm interested in a "human subordination to nature" ideology.
I knew the headlines were suspicious, but I had no idea just how egregious they were. Also, I always laugh at people who say Beyond burgers are bad for you. BURGERS are bad for you. They're junk food. All of them. I'm not eating a burger to be healthy. And okay, beyond burgers are ultra processed, and high in sodium. But red meat is associated with a lot of bad health outcomes, including being a carcinogen. If I'm going to eat a burger, it may as well be a Beyond burger, right?
@lightninggornall
Ай бұрын
No, are you really that dumb? A processed burger full of poison, chemicsls and additives not fit for human consumption v a natural organic grass fed burger with a complete nutritional profile in which all nutrients are bioavailable, are you nuts?
@jonahwhale9047
Ай бұрын
@@lightninggornall Where's the vitamin C in mashed up corpse meat?
@darrenvail8726
Ай бұрын
@@jonahwhale9047 find out on NoCarbLife.
omg my mom literally sent me an article like this the other day and I went through the same study - so disheartening that research continues to be presented so disingenuously especially when it comes to alternative meat products…
I thought your shirt was blurred, turns out it’s the mic. 😂
I've mostly cut out UPFs in general to try and find what I'm reacting to (ah, MCAS problems) and I feel like every conversation I've had about it has been explaining the difference between "processed" and "ultra-processed". People really think I'm out here just sitting in a corner with my totally unprocessed raw veg and nothing else.
Reda Wigle, the "journalist" who wrote the article, is the astrology writer at the at New York Post.
Tofu, if I would use these logics, would be a replacer for fish, cheese, meat, beans, legumes, eggs, bread and milk. Just because I can use it as something doesnt mean its a X replacer. I even hear the Chinese use it to build skyscrapers (sic).
@yogarcia6066
Ай бұрын
Tofu-dreg projects 😅
It definitely feels silly to lump impossible burgers into exactly the same category as distilled spirits, french fries, cookies and whatever qualifies as "industrial pizza". Here's hoping saner categories for ultraprocessed foods emerge over time.
Lol 1:05 every time I hear that someone is consuming "upf" I'm imagining them eating a sunguard, umbrella, or wide-brimmed hat
I've been trying fake meats occasionally but really haven't found any I like. One thing that hurts is the sodium in them. Real meat is so much lower. I saw a chart showing many of the alternatives have 4-6x more.
@jonahwhale9047
Ай бұрын
Are you vegan? Doesn't matter on a vegan diet because it's so potassium rich. Vegans need sodium from other sources.
Daily Mail literally just makes shit up about veganism all the time. And New York post is totally biased
Tyankyou for this video ! I have had an argument with someone online yesterday who was making a lady feel bad for eve. Letting her kid touch a mock meat
The Lancet is like America's JAMA / Journal of the American Medical Association.
I think the real question is. Do you genuinely believe that it will make everyone healthy and happy and satisfy everyone hunger.
Tractor supply lost Billions pushing LGBTQRSTUV Alphabet soup...Begs for forgiveness...promises customers never again Woke.
I would imagine they aren't great for you considering half of them turn your guts inside out and the list of ingredients on the back is usually pretty long usually includes stuff that's not considered great. Some of the fake milks are well odd too, seems to be water, oil, sugar, salt and a few other ingredients.
I would love a video revisiting the research on DHA, EPA and ALA, if there is any new research
Same vibe as, "3 out of 4 doctors smoke Camel Cigarettes." Follow the money
@darrenvail8726
Ай бұрын
Yes the scientific study that they did proves their cigarettes are good for you. Trust the science.🥩🥚🥓
It's about the chemicals.
I think the tofu and tempeh being lumped into the UPF category might make the data better, no? And what's my takeaway... that processed breads cause heart disease? This study is a mess.
@TasteOfButterflies
Ай бұрын
My takeaway is that "UPF" vs "non-UPF" is a meaningless way to categorize food. At best , it may be a helpful rule of thumb for people who aren't interested in thinking about nutrition.
If you want to understand anything about UPF i would recommend reading ultra-processed people by Chris Van Tulleken
This is one of very few cases where we don’t need studies, just common sense, that a species that evolved eating red meat while losing it’s ability to digest fiber and plant materials, would not do well eating a diet made up of processed seed oils, plants full of anti-nutrients and toxins, and who’s rate of health and mental issues have skyrocketed as plant based diets have risen. Even if you aren’t vegan, in the US 70% of the products in the grocery store are largely made from plants. AKA processed plant foods. If you look at human biology with the same lense you look at the diet of every other animal on earth, it’s obvious our illnesses are being caused by not eating what we evolved to eat. Can you live on plants? Sure, but you won’t be optimal and will just have more and more health issues as you age. Yet somehow, you eliminate everything other than meat and eggs and your body becomes optimal.
@jonahwhale9047
Ай бұрын
I'd like to give you a lengthy, well referenced, logical reply to your nonsense, but I see that Unnatural Vegan answered you in full, here; 3:04. We didn't evolve eating red meat. For 99.9% of our evolution, we ate basically no meat at all. "Optimal" has absolutely no meaning scientifically. It's just dog whistle style marketing for a carnivore/paleo style diet.
@darrenvail8726
Ай бұрын
I like common sense.
I'm not a vegetarian exclusively, but I love seeing more meat alternatives to choose from and cut down. Annoying to this is deliberate undermining and misleading.
Beens and rice is good for you
@Greywolf-ry9mc
Ай бұрын
@@MdoubleHB12 To cool giving children cook food Channel abuse it's Grocery Exeteration
Who needs healthy vegans?
GINNY MESSINA'S HUSBAND MARK MESSINA SAID HE LOVES SOY BURGERS AND EATS ALOT OF THEM..... HE'S A PRETTY INTELLIGENT MAN!
Please cover Bioma probiotics
ANYTHING high in saturated fat consumed over long lengths of time.. increases the risk of cvd. Weither its animal or plant based
I hate the bought and paid for media.
Yeah, it's bs. Most of the products I tried have a straightforward and healthy ingredients list
I only eat saturated fat.
Best content on KZread right now. Not because it is an epilepsy inducing shit show, but because it is smart, well research, interesting, relevant, awesome, and not pretentious.
@brucedobiecki7254
Ай бұрын
Not really, she's still perpetuating that saturated fat is bad narrative.
@jonahwhale9047
Ай бұрын
@@brucedobiecki7254 She's still perpetuating that saturated fat is bad because in order to produce them, you've got to deny animals their rights, put them through hell, then prematurely murder them. Coconuts are just fine though. 90% saturated too.
very intriguing by the title, ofc its bullshit
🤦♂️ 💚🌱💚Vegan for the Animals💚🌱💚
Check out No Lab Coat Required. Latest video is interesting.
So does meat meat. I’m not vegan, I don’t have that m Kind of dedication
Beyond is now avocado oil
@miracoli16
Ай бұрын
She mentioned it.
@stacysoliday7396
Ай бұрын
@@miracoli16 yes
Why does she still call herself vegan? 🤔
@superethangaming.
Ай бұрын
Why wouldn’t she
Yes
Longtime watcher, first time commenter: I am an omnivore and I love mock meats. Beyond Burgers are sooooo good, evil seed oils and all.
I WONDER WHAT HEALTHY CRAZY COOL THINKS ABOUT THIS 🤔
DR WALTER KEMPNER -- SUGAR
Very, very likely as it is ultra processed.
A poorly worded and misleading title. That’s pretty shameful for a scientific study.
@jonahwhale9047
Ай бұрын
In fairness, it was badly worded tabloid newspaper article titles, from two notoriously biased newspapers. The actual title was 'Implications of food ultra-processing on cardiovascular risk considering plant origin foods: an analysis of the UK Biobank cohort'.
Yay
I’m pathetic
We should generally avoid processed food. Meat can cause harm, the same way vegan meat can. We just need to practice moderation.
Ya’ll Vegans wild. Defending fake meats and acting like it’s perfectly fine, while what we’ve been eating for millions of years will give you a heart attack 😒😄
@jonahwhale9047
Ай бұрын
You mean, "for million of years" while life expectancy was between 25 years to 45 years old?
@jakemcman1858
Ай бұрын
@@jonahwhale9047 Do you actually believe that people were dropping dead of heart disease at 45 back then? Even if I granted that the average life expectancy was 45 (which is highly speculative and can’t be verified) don’t you think that would be from childbirth, predators, infection, etc…?
@darrenvail8726
Ай бұрын
@@jakemcman1858 True. If you made it to 10 years old your chances of making it to 60 greatly increased. It's called making it past kill events. Common sense aint so common.
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Well it's not proper food is it? It's vat processed cack. Just eat real food for goodness sake. People are so lazy.
It’s true though. Ancel Keys proved that eating too much fat is bad for your heart.
@donnerparty1815
Ай бұрын
😂 he's been debunked and cherry picked the 7 countries. Do your homework.
@Fruigivore
Ай бұрын
@@donnerparty1815 Bro he never got debunked. It’s all Carnivore fairy tales 🧚.
@GarudaLegends
Ай бұрын
You still believe that fake science? 🤦♂️. Wow
@ggjr61
Ай бұрын
@@donnerparty1815The debunking was debunked. Do your homework.
@gordonv.cormack3216
Ай бұрын
@@donnerparty1815 No he hasn't. And he said in particular that saturated fat was bad. Which it is.
I don't think any real natural food gives any disease. If you are (over)eating 2 kilos of meat or potatoes a day then, sure, that can be problematic. No surprise if that bites you back.
@baganbobik9312
Ай бұрын
Studies think otherwise
@Erundilme
Ай бұрын
alright then, go try some poisonous mushrooms and let us know how it went for ya 🤗 and I will eat some uNnAtUrAl vegan nuggets, we'll see who does better
@julioandresgomez3201
Ай бұрын
@@baganbobik9312 What study suggests that if you eat one gram of something a year you get diseased?
@julioandresgomez3201
Ай бұрын
@@Erundilme poisonous mushrooms are not food, by definition.
@user-nz4un6se7y
Ай бұрын
@@baganbobik9312 It simply means they are wrong because they do not correspond to reality and not vice versa. If you continue to follow science, you're a cultist. Scientism is a term
You are honestly the top vegans who tend to not be so biased and why i like you. I do learn from you sometimes when you keep it neutral. Meat is the healthiest food on earth you can eat, whether vegans accept that fact or not. How is it surprising to vegan that fake processed food like Vegan Mock Meat is unhealthy? The entire notion that stuff like mushrooms or tofu is a respectable animal product replacement is not sound in mind and is anti-nutrition science. The nutrients in meat is completely different and superior than any mock meat a vegan can conjure in the kitchen, or buy from a store. This is why meat eaters live vasly longer in age than vegan and have a far better life expectancy than vegans. This is why i eat animal products to live long and be healthy. If the vegan diet was the healthiest diet to eat i would be vegan, but it is the direct opposite. The vegan diet is lacking in nutrients found in animals products and become even more unhealthy with all that fake store bought vegan meat. Nothing can beat a natural omnivore diet. If you disagree with that statement, please tell me a diet better.
@BM1982.V2
Ай бұрын
Studies all show plant based diets to live longer with less disease. The study in this video is comparing ultra processed plant foods compared to unprocessed vegan foods. So eating UPF caused a higher mortality... duh. We all know this, but when you compare the ultra processed plant foods to the non processed meat foods they still come out better. That should tell you something. The study shows non processed plant foods are best, then ultra processed plant foods, then non processed meat, then ultra processed meat in that order. Your comment goes against the vast majority of research we have not only just this study but thousands more.
@GarudaLegends
Ай бұрын
@@BM1982.V2 the healthiest diet deemed to be the healthiest globally is a Mediterranean diet, which is an omnivore diet AKA meat eating diet, and not a vegan diet. I agree with you. A plant based diet like the Mediterranean diet which is an omnivore diet and not vegan, is the healthiest. Another plant based diet like the pescaterian diet is also healthier than a vegan diet. Thank you for proving my point. 👍 BTW meat is the healthiest food on earth. That is why vegans have the lowest life expectancy out of meat eaters and vegetarians, while meat eaters live to be the oldest in age and have the highest life expectancy, and vegetarians are the second healthiest longest lived.
@squidleyskidley
Ай бұрын
@@GarudaLegendsand where exactly do you get these supposed life expectancies? And what does “healthiest food on earth” actually mean? Very subjective…
@GarudaLegends
Ай бұрын
@@squidleyskidley you can literally google life expectancies for practical anything. Lol. It is a fact meat is the healthiest food on earth, not to mention among the most nutrient dense. Nothing subjective about facts.
@stephenlurie821
Ай бұрын
@@GarudaLegends You can Google anything you want and cherry pick what you would like to be true. I just googled "What is the healthiest food?". Most sources that came up mentioned leafy greens and whole grains in the top two spots. Beans, berries, and squash are high on the list. Try googling "What is the unhealthiest food?". Bacon and fast food burgers are top contenders.