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Will Carbon Fibre Rods Affect Truss Rod Adjustability? - Guitar Builder's Basics - Episode 191

Welcome to Crimson Guitars kzread.info... and welcome to the Guitar Builder's Basics Podcast Episode 191
In this episode, Ben answers a question from Roel Schouten about using Carbon Fibre stiffening rods to reinforce a guitar neck.
Chapters
0:00 Introduction
1:16 Depends on the size of the rod - Crimson rods 4mm sq
2:27 Make sure neck wood dry and straight
3:50 Carbon fibre rods recommended - temperature change affects wood
6:13 Remember - carbon fibre carcinogenic - mask up
7:12 Conclusion
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Пікірлер: 54

  • @JDODify
    @JDODify6 жыл бұрын

    "To be brief" LOL, Ben... brief!

  • @123Ir0nman
    @123Ir0nman6 жыл бұрын

    You guys should do a reclaimed wood guitar build using wood from pallets. I'd like to see a pro builder do it since most of the vids like that on KZread are people that have no idea how to build guitars.

  • @jayjetty7848
    @jayjetty78486 жыл бұрын

    Ben I'd like to a video where you repair a twisted neck. Remove the fret board replace the truss rod. Add the stiffening rods. Reglue refret... The whole 9 yards. These videos are must see tv for guys like me. My guitars are an extension of me and I don't trust that easily. Thanks a million

  • @j.dietrich
    @j.dietrich6 жыл бұрын

    Precautions around dust are always sensible, but carbon fibre particles probably aren't carcinogenic. OSHA and the HSE don't regard carbon fibre dust as a carcinogen. Epoxy dust is potentially toxic, but not significantly more so than many tropical hardwood dusts. You should be fine with normal dust control processes for managing wood dust. One risk to be aware of is that carbon fibres are conductive. They can cause short-circuits in power tools, creating a potential fire hazard. For cutting neck reinforcement rods, I'd suggest using a hacksaw with a perma-grit blade and working well away from any machine tools. Cutting in gradually from all four sides rather than cutting straight through from one side will give a much cleaner cut with less splintering.

  • @christopherberthelet3977
    @christopherberthelet39776 жыл бұрын

    A San Diego, California violin maker/repair of 40 Years, specialist in inlay, died 6 months before retirement. Died of silicoscis, he had already booked and paued for a world cruise for he and his wife. Take precautions be safe and blessed.

  • @roelschouten8834
    @roelschouten88346 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Ben, great advice. I'm still keen to send you some NZ native timber (what I use) at some stage. Cheers

  • @mjallenuk
    @mjallenuk6 жыл бұрын

    Just for one brief and exciting moment whilst contemplating the thumbnail for this video, I thought we were in for a Michael Jackson cover... Does Ben do requests these days?

  • @rowlandstraylight
    @rowlandstraylight6 жыл бұрын

    I've seen some plans that use large square section tube partway up the neck (14th fret or so I think). I assume the idea is to alter how the neck bows so that the action can be lower over the higher frets for a similar clearance across the frets on the nut side of the octave. Has anyone tried this technique, is it useful for getting an action low and and still relatively quiet. I confess to spending a great deal of time finding the point at which fret buzz is just not noticeable through the amp unless I get violent with my playing. Keeps the shreddier guitars low and fast at the expense of some sustain which I don't need more of with a loud high gain amp.

  • @tomholton235
    @tomholton2356 жыл бұрын

    That’s one squeaky jacket. Good to know about the stiffening rods though as I had been wondering about this very question.

  • @adamm9247
    @adamm92476 жыл бұрын

    I guess I can wait 7 minutes and 53 seconds till I start my homework 😄

  • @adamm9247

    @adamm9247

    6 жыл бұрын

    Also I what is a truss rod, I only got into building a couple of months ago with no prior experience. Don't mean to ask stupid questions but would appreciate an explanation as to what it is 👍

  • @tomholton235

    @tomholton235

    6 жыл бұрын

    Adam M lmgtfy.com/?q=Truss+rod 😀

  • @adamm9247

    @adamm9247

    6 жыл бұрын

    ahhhh, ok, so it stops the neck from bowing essentially . Thanks man

  • @harryhill6911

    @harryhill6911

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well it's an adjustable rod that can bend and unbend the neck

  • @namcizum

    @namcizum

    6 жыл бұрын

    Same. I'm doing the same thing right now! (>___

  • @chocolatecookie8571
    @chocolatecookie85712 жыл бұрын

    Good question. Keep them coming

  • @esa062
    @esa0626 жыл бұрын

    When air temperature drops, it can hold less moisture, which causes the relative humidity to raise. That's why heated indoors are dry as hell, if there's no humidifier.

  • @JebJulian
    @JebJulian5 жыл бұрын

    Other tip with carbon fiber is the dust conducts electricity. Killed a dremel last time I used it. Air tools are the go

  • @wyvern4588

    @wyvern4588

    5 жыл бұрын

    just spray out the dremel with electrical cleaner after use and let it dry before you use it again (unless you are a pyro)

  • @zerohourdrift
    @zerohourdrift6 жыл бұрын

    I’m looking at having a custom neck made for me through a company near me, but I’m sort of confused on what I should do can you help? A while back I built an Eric Clapton partscaster that was a heavy relic. I had the body hardware and the pickups lying around but no neck, so I bought a cheap squier neck off a buddy just to get the thing playable. It’s a rosewood board, and while originally I liked the look of maple more, the rosewood looks way more at home on a relic and it grew on me a lot. Clapton only uses maple boards. I know rosewood is supposed to sound and feel different but is there any way I could get the feel and sound of a maple board with the looks of a rosewood one? I was originally thinking ebony, but ebony doesn’t get a finish so it feels like a tighter grained rosewood. Then I was looking at roasted maple because at least it’s darker, but that is different as well. Any recommendations please? The reason I’m getting a custom one built is because I want the older 1987-1998 Clapton strat shape of the more pronounced v rather than a newer one or a standard c or d. Please help me out here I don’t know what to do!!

  • @randyrhoads64050
    @randyrhoads640506 жыл бұрын

    I'm finding alot of carbon fiber square rods that are hollow in the middle. The size I'm looking at is 3mm x 3mm inner diameter is 2mm. What is your thoughts on this?

  • @walterrider9600
    @walterrider96006 жыл бұрын

    thank you

  • @chromaticdeath
    @chromaticdeath6 жыл бұрын

    Ben, what are your thoughts about filing down the last frets slightly more while doing a fret level for lowest possible action?

  • @zyxwvut4740

    @zyxwvut4740

    6 жыл бұрын

    _"Creating fall away at the last frets of your fretboard during…"_ I have not watched this video yet, but I am about to do so. Sounds like what you are asking for: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oIeYpMyQnpi-XcY.html

  • @gerbutt
    @gerbutt6 жыл бұрын

    Haha that was well funny at the end!

  • @alexander_noren
    @alexander_noren3 жыл бұрын

    I have received 4x4 mm carbon fiber rods today. And they are not as stiff as I thought. I can bend them without any effort. And that OK or I got a wrong product? Thank you!

  • @kirsilehtinen9115
    @kirsilehtinen91156 жыл бұрын

    How many k are carbon fiber rods usually used for guitars?

  • @blahblahsen1142
    @blahblahsen11425 жыл бұрын

    i made a metal-machine many years ago and since i dont have access to carbon fiber and i wanted it to hold super-heavy tension i literally ran 2 bars of steel, 8th inch thick and about half inch wide down the neck, flared them out and down the through-neck slab into the body and then bent them around to meet at the tail of the guitar and welded them together. it also has a truss rod. a 27 inch scale with a 106 set tuned to F#...yea that's 35 pounds of tension per string that bastard doesnt move a bit. had strings that heavy on it for 8 years, never adjusted the truss, its still dead straight. ive been using a subtitute for a truss rod lately. basically a T-bar of 8th inch by half inch tall running down the neck and pinned to the wood by about a dozen little rods. they end up a little heavy but not too bad. the double rod bar and truss guitar weighs a ton, that shit was overkill. lol.

  • @IrchaMan
    @IrchaMan6 жыл бұрын

    Pro tip: Watch the first 50 seconds on 0,75 speed. Ben looks wasted to bits xD

  • @peachmelba1000
    @peachmelba10005 жыл бұрын

    Quick question: would blending graphite powder and epoxy produce a product similar to carbon fiber rods, or just black epoxy?

  • @nyalarhotep

    @nyalarhotep

    4 жыл бұрын

    If by that you mean similar in strength, than absolutely not. All strength of carbon fiber comes from its fibrous form. Powder is not fiber, and will be nowhere near as strong.

  • @mynx_uk
    @mynx_uk6 жыл бұрын

    hey Ben, i need to clean my guitar, but, i lent it to a freind, and, they left it out of its case, and they are a family of fairly heavy smokers, so what would you suggest i use to clean off the nicotine without destroying the finish? thanks for the fantastic videos.

  • @evilutionltd

    @evilutionltd

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sugar soap.

  • @wallacesheckells9280
    @wallacesheckells92806 жыл бұрын

    Cool beans !

  • @beardedcatguitarplus9485
    @beardedcatguitarplus94856 жыл бұрын

    I need help, I’ve been looking and looking online for free guitar full size printable ( could be multiple pages to tape together but still full scale) body and neck lined plans. I have had no luck at all I just want to make my own templates. Please if you could help me out I would be truly grateful.

  • @kevinmuller9948

    @kevinmuller9948

    5 жыл бұрын

    You can get many different ones from their shop.

  • @kirillknatko3540
    @kirillknatko35403 жыл бұрын

    I have a question...is using a square that is 9mm x 9mm, too much?? (hollow tube in the middle of the square thought)

  • @CrimsonCustomGuitars

    @CrimsonCustomGuitars

    3 жыл бұрын

    if it is hollow I'm not sure how much strength it will give. also would have to be close in to the centre of the neck so it doesn't blow through the back,. B

  • @kirillknatko3540

    @kirillknatko3540

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CrimsonCustomGuitars ouu its strong..realy strong didnt cut it yet.. 1meter long and bearly bends..my fear is that the truss rod won't be able to move the neck because of it

  • @nickkravatz7523
    @nickkravatz75236 жыл бұрын

    5:12 that dig at stewmac... beautiful.

  • @mykhough6614
    @mykhough66146 жыл бұрын

    All the fun things in life are either illegal, immoral or fattening.

  • @MrRafaztar

    @MrRafaztar

    6 жыл бұрын

    Myk Hough like the Brazilian song says by Roberto Carlos ?

  • @mykhough6614

    @mykhough6614

    6 жыл бұрын

    Rafael. Don't know that one. I tried googling him but I don't speak Portuguese :-( He sounds good though.

  • @MrRafaztar

    @MrRafaztar

    6 жыл бұрын

    Myk Hough it’s an oldie , my father used to listen to it. kzread.info/dash/bejne/X2eesLBuk5O-Zco.html

  • @c.rothschild260
    @c.rothschild2606 жыл бұрын

    I've never had to adjust a truss rod in my entire life.

  • @shiftingchords
    @shiftingchords6 жыл бұрын

    Raiders of the lost arc?

  • @chroniclesofbap6170
    @chroniclesofbap61706 жыл бұрын

    I wish I worked for you

  • @Caaarrl94
    @Caaarrl946 жыл бұрын

    holy fedora

  • @VAdu56
    @VAdu566 жыл бұрын

    tu fais quand même beaucoup plus sérieux" avec un chapeau ! quelle idée as-tu eu de te faire des tatouages sur le crâne ...!! Bravo pour cette vidéo sur le trus rod !

  • @johnnypk1963
    @johnnypk19636 жыл бұрын

    U did say Patreon...😂

  • @evilutionltd
    @evilutionltd6 жыл бұрын

    Fiber? Did Crimson guitars move to America?

  • @Tomas.Mauleon
    @Tomas.Mauleon6 жыл бұрын

    dross?

  • @jeanguion3223
    @jeanguion32236 жыл бұрын

    was about to say, "how about a carbon fiber feetboard", rite up till you said its highly carcinagenic....still could give the board a nice poly clear coat..slicker than ebony... I personally prefer near to zero neck releif as a guitar can accomplish.... my motto is...when you have to dig in to get under a string for a bend...give it just a cunt hair..

  • @Ibaneddie76
    @Ibaneddie766 жыл бұрын

    CARBON FIBER IS THE WAY TO GO IF YOU WANT A STABLE NECK.