Wildlife Photography with the Canon R8 vs R7: Same Price, Who Wins?

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With Canon's recent expansion of the $1500 offerings--the new R8 coming alongside the R7--I wanted to see which was the better option for wildlife, so I took both bodies out for an evening of challenging animal imaging--tracking small birds through a marsh as the light disappeared. Who came out on top? Join me for my final test of this fascinating budget full-frame powerhouse.
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I can't believe how little Canon held back in cleaving the new EOS R8 intro-full-framer from the guts of the marvelously high-tech R6 Mark II--so much so, that I had to test it and see for myself! After a hit-and-miss experience pitting the new arrival against my staple R7 and EOS R bodies photographing waterfalls, I bring my test samples into the studio for a revealing deep-dive into the cameras' imaging capabilities. If you're considering one of these for your next landscape photo adventure, you don't want to miss this essential info.
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  • @MattRamseyTube
    @MattRamseyTube Жыл бұрын

    Acknowledged a Final Cut rendering error at 4:22 - This was an example frame of a missed-focus R8 photo, exactly like the correctly rendered one that follows.

  • @rogergranquist
    @rogergranquist6 ай бұрын

    I use the touchscreen for the joystick for autofocus when looking through the viewfinder and it works so great!

  • @MattRamseyTube

    @MattRamseyTube

    6 ай бұрын

    That’s a great option, I didn’t get to test it but used that feature on my EOS R all the time! 🙌

  • @TomReichner
    @TomReichner11 ай бұрын

    That is a really beautiful setting that you are shooting at! Especially so at golden hour! I appreciate you doing this comparison, but it is difficult to learn much about either camera's AF system and subject tracking abilities when you are so so so far away from the subjects and they are so tiny in the frame. If you could set up to shoot these birds from MUCH closer, so that they fill the frame the way you typically see in wildlife photos, then the AF abilities of each camera could be properly assessed, because that would show them being used the way that wildlife photographers typically use cameras.

  • @MattRamseyTube

    @MattRamseyTube

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the view and feedback, Tom! My preference is to differentiate the cameras by testing them in challenging scenarios, rather than favor them with situations that they're likely to handle equally (I also prioritize delivering clearly intelligible info to the camera, which of course tends to drive away the animals) but I totally agree that viewers should flesh out their research with other free resources from amateurs like myself and, if it's it's helpful, having a consultation with a professional wildlife photographer.

  • @poppacapnurass2608
    @poppacapnurass260816 күн бұрын

    At 8:35 we can clearly see that IS is on. Things might have changes with Mirrorless, but in my 20 years shooting with DSLR on a tripod, the recommendation is always to turn IS off when the camera & lens combo is mounted.

  • @MattRamseyTube

    @MattRamseyTube

    8 күн бұрын

    I've heard that "around" (i.e., not in a manual) but have never had any issue running IS on tripod and on Canon mirrorless, disabling the lens IS also disables the sensor stabilizer which, even on gimbal, is helpful for video.

  • @randallbrander8157
    @randallbrander815710 ай бұрын

    Turn off the Digitizer Optimizer in the Lens Aberration Correction setting and it should help clearing the buffer quicker after your 40 shots in the R8. Cheers!

  • @MattRamseyTube

    @MattRamseyTube

    10 ай бұрын

    Very cool, thanks!

  • @mvp_kryptonite
    @mvp_kryptonite10 ай бұрын

    I have the R7 but see the appeal for the R8. That full frame sensor at such a attractive price point is compelling if you can work within its limits (such as the tiny battery, buffer and lack of IBIS). All full frame Canon bodies Iv used, be it DSLR or mirrorless, just nail exposure much better than cropped sensor bodies, others experience may be different but I’m going back all the way to the 400D and all 7D line bodies. Back to the video, could you get closer to your subjects? Keep them rolling too!

  • @BrianHallmond

    @BrianHallmond

    2 ай бұрын

    I had an R6 but had to sell and just got an R7... 😅

  • @katanakatana9002
    @katanakatana900210 ай бұрын

    👋🏼 hi what will be good for pet photography ? I have an old canon 550d and I’m not professional but I want to upgrade to mirrorless. What will be better r7 or r 8 (pet photography mostly indoor) in action and portrait. And what lens should I get? I don’t have a big budget but I would like to have a suitable and good camera. Thank you for your answer

  • @michelecintramika8482

    @michelecintramika8482

    10 ай бұрын

    Canon R8 + Speedlight + EF70-200mm f4.

  • @msbmri24
    @msbmri247 ай бұрын

    Where's the photos you clicked?

  • @noPrinting
    @noPrinting Жыл бұрын

    Thank You I have a crop sensor DSLR . I have to wait for sunny days to get good photos. Max usable ISO is 6400.. I have the R8. I get usable photos at ISO 100,000.. Paired with the RF600mm f11 ...I can use it any day.. any time.. I use Pre-burst to capture small birds taking off..It works.. Because of the small buffer in 40FPS..I wait for the Decisive Moment ...as they used to say in the Glorious Era..of Film.. I crop severely .. down to 500,000 pixels.. I do not print ,.. The images look lovely on iPone or iPad. Best critique of my R8 photos so far has been... "YOU TOOK THAT?! " Excellent Video..

  • @MattRamseyTube

    @MattRamseyTube

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear you’re getting great results from your setup, thanks for sharing

  • @rui7773

    @rui7773

    9 ай бұрын

    Would the RP 26mp be better for cutting than the R8??

  • @noPrinting

    @noPrinting

    9 ай бұрын

    @@rui7773 Hello 👍DXOMark has tester the R8 (Full review on line) They said: The 24.2 MP sensor in the Canon EOS R8 achieved a DXOMARK score of 93 in our tests, which puts it in joint 10th place overall and in 3rd place for Canon sensors. That’s well above the Canon EOS RP at 85 (7DMkII= 70/ 80D= 79/ 90D/R7 =80) and even above the flagship 20MP Canon EOS 1Dx III but just below the EOS R5 and R3. The adoption of a conventional front-side illuminated 24.2 MP CMOS sensor appears to be a weak link. However, it’s clear, from our tests, the Canon EOS R8 sensor is capable of producing extremely high image quality. Indeed in terms of color depth and dynamic range, it is on par with the leading BSI-type CMOS sensors(SONY). What’s more, that’s throughout the ISO sensitivity range not just at the ‘headline’ maximum or peak value measured at base. While it remains unclear exactly how Canon has achieved such a significant performance uplift with an FSI-type CMOS sensor, competition like this is always good to see.

  • @rui7773

    @rui7773

    9 ай бұрын

    @@noPrinting, thank you brother, helped me a lot, hug! 👍🇧🇷

  • @MattRamseyTube

    @MattRamseyTube

    9 ай бұрын

    @@rui7773 I'll second that. While it's important to remember that DXO scores sensors based on a range of factors (not just image quality), I found the R8 sensor to be more detailed than the 30 MP of the EOS R at almost every ISO and especially in observable shadow and low-light detail, and my experience with the 6D Mark II (same sensor as RP) was even worse than the EOS R.

  • @pjkdiver
    @pjkdiver6 ай бұрын

    If you set the r8 to c-raw and 20fps (which is plenty for pretty much anything), it'll do about 10 seconds of shooting before it slows down.

  • @MattRamseyTube

    @MattRamseyTube

    6 ай бұрын

    Great tip, thanks!

  • @tonystites2134
    @tonystites21349 ай бұрын

    I have the R8 the Autofocus is awesome, the R8 has three shutter speeds first shutter 6 fps, Electronic shutter 20 fps and 40 fps. yes 40 fps fills the buffer up quick and then you have to wait, but with the 20 fps it keeps up nicely. the R8 is going to out perform the R7 in low light that why wedding photographers shoot with full frame.

  • @MattRamseyTube

    @MattRamseyTube

    9 ай бұрын

    Bang on, thanks!

  • @jaymills1720
    @jaymills172011 ай бұрын

    I know this is for wildlife but I use video and photo for travel, family, sports, and work documentaries- which if the r7/r8 would be recommended for best quality

  • @MattRamseyTube

    @MattRamseyTube

    11 ай бұрын

    For rock solid durability and reliability on long shoots, my choice is the R7 all day; the R8 crams in more tech but pushes the limits of its small body, so it can give better results in more delicate use on shorter shoots. Check out my reviews of both: kzread.info/head/PLm3TBzFaZnWiTETzQdxgFXsv8tut7wjHK / kzread.info/head/PLm3TBzFaZnWh2QpNMuVvrfqdBEBeevEqR If my advice is helpful consider the affiliate links in the description of each video, cheers!

  • @oje101
    @oje10117 күн бұрын

    Weird.. R7 is ISO 100 - 32000 ( expands to 100-51200).. why do you say your maxes out at 12,800

  • @MattRamseyTube

    @MattRamseyTube

    5 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the correction!

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