Wii FPS Analysis: Red Steel 2 - The Sequel That Wasn't - JarekTheGamingDragon
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@WorldHayes-VR
3 жыл бұрын
Ima try this on Dolphin VR
One of the few cases where the sequel completely outshines the previous entry. A cowboy samurai? Done before but it's always better by default.
@SGSOnlineTV
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's rare at all. Half Life 2, Assassin's Creed 2, Mass Effect 2 etc. There are counter examples like Bioshock, but i think that video game sequels generally tend to be better than their originals.
@agrubohub4009
3 жыл бұрын
@@SGSOnlineTV I was talking about sequels that completely surpass the original in every single aspect. A sequel that is superior is extremely common but a case where it destroys the original in everything? That's rare.
@Mr.Foxhat
3 жыл бұрын
@@agrubohub4009 I mean, the bar was set pretty low with the first game. Red Steel 2 is still good though so I don't care lol
@Jarekthegamingdragon
3 жыл бұрын
HARD disagree with Half-Life 2. Half-Life 1 has more enemies, better movement, more guns, more gameplay variety, etc. Half-Life 2 has a better engine, that was the focus. I feel like Half-Life 1 is a much better game.
@thevashfan12392
3 жыл бұрын
@@SGSOnlineTV I'd beg to differ on the mass effect 2 part. the heavy employment of rpg elements in the first game was almost soviet concrete in the game. the sequel was extremely more combat and FPS intensive. just a subjective disagreement but I really found myself disdaining mass effect 2 when I carefully construct a squad that should take on any threat but can't because of the annoying cooldown system and the ridiculousness of shield or barrier capacities. the first game I could disable a biotic using enemy completely by using: sabotage (no more weapons), dampening (no more biotics), and then hit'em with either a neural shock, overload, or a biotic attack and suddenly they're completely helpless against my attacks. in mass effect 2: I can hit'em with 3 overloads and they will often times charge straight through and turn me into soylent green before I can snap my keyboard; also yes I tried doing an adept playthrough with warp and singularity (only works when you can finally dampen the disagreeable cooldowns), hell even in mass effect 3 I found too much issue with that damn cooldown system. sure the first game was arguably broken with triple-lifting enemies till they hit the death panel but it sure was a lot more tactical when facing my opponents in a fairly level playing field (sabotage and overload or ai hacking to stop the rocket drones is a must!)
I feel like the guy who left the comment thinks the yakuza just randomly fight in the streets with katanas and shit😂
“It’s tedious to break everything in the environment to get money” *lego Star Wars wants to know your location*
@ritvarsvereskuns452
3 жыл бұрын
First of all - YES!! (Any LEGO game for that matter. Dont know why they are so obsesses with assulting inanemate obyects....) Second - i first saw and red this comment PERFECTLY when he said that in the video. Like, karaoke perfect!
@jardex2275
3 жыл бұрын
Especially the early games! You would pretty much need to destroy everything, collect every stud, and not die in order to get 100% completion in a level. Or, you say screw it, and turn on the x10 multiplier.
@Mr.Foxhat
3 жыл бұрын
@@jardex2275 THERE WAS A MULTIPLIER?!
@jardex2275
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Foxhat Yeah, the red bricks you collected would unlock cheats that you could purchase. It's pretty much been a staple of the series since the first Lego Star Wars.
When ubisoft does something interesting with their IP's, its great. Like far cry 3: blood dragon, and this game.
@endless_limes
3 жыл бұрын
I'd remove R6 from that list
@chojix6394
3 жыл бұрын
Siege is an okay game, just needs more work on its anticheat
@Jacket430
3 жыл бұрын
Here come the shit takes about Rainbow Six....
@Armordude91122Cute
3 жыл бұрын
I'd replace Siege with Ghost Recon Future Soldier (imo) or Splinter Cells Conviction and I would agree with you. I would've also added Rayman as well.
@mohsinabdulshukur
3 жыл бұрын
@@Armordude91122Cute what's wrong with seige
I think the old west/feudal japan aesthetic works because both cultures, (or rather, both media depictions of these cultures) lend themselves to the same type of story well. Both were settings marked by constant violence and lawlessness where stories centering around wandering heroes are prevalent. Case in point; When making Seven Samurai, widely considered to be the most influential Samurai movie ever, Director Akira Kurosawa said the goal was to make a western set in Japan. Obviously the setting didn't allow for cowboys or anything literally belonging to westerns, but the story used the same types of concepts the genre was known for. Then, sure enough Seven Samurai was remade several years later in America as a western , i.e The Magnificent Seven, and it became one of the pinnacles of its own genre. Our collective understanding of the two settings, no matter how flawed, enables a lot of overlap. Merging the two doesn't immediately make sense, but in practice it worked pretty seamlessly because our expectations for each were so similar.
@jedimike7622
3 жыл бұрын
I'd definitely love to see a new game with a blend of the two.
I imagine that the Ubisoft Paris team that designed the first Red Steel, wanted to take another shot at realizing their initial vision. Utilize the novel premise of motion controls for a game that featured both gunplay and swordplay. Red Steel 2 isn't so much a sequel to the first game as it is a reimagining from both a design and narrative based perspective.
"now you're just going through the motions" ha ha ha.
3:04 ok jarek i read all of the dude's comments and oh god i can't handle it
Ngl, a Red Steel 3 with the level of details of Boneworks could be awesome. I personally enjoy the game a lot
This is, to me, one of the best games From Ubisoft. Its sad that we never got a sequel, but i still hope that, someday, we'll get a reboot, with a better story, of this game
@HermaphroGynandro
Жыл бұрын
A second reboot you mean? Sadly, that frou-frou bastard Yves Guillemot gives us Nintendo enthusiasts the middle finger when we request a Red Steel revival.
"Mom can we get Shadow Warrior?" "We already have Shadow Warrior at home" *shadow warrior at home*
@threecats8219
3 жыл бұрын
Can someone please explain to me the format or how this is a joke, or what it means. I have seen this format of comment before, and it makes no sense what so-ever.
@sponcthespork9352
3 жыл бұрын
@@threecats8219 basically its like hey mom can we get this new thing, shes like we have that thing at home, but the version you have at home is like a shitty version of the item you wanted to by. Replace shadow warrior with McDonalds and for the part where it says we have McDonalds at home, think of gross year old expired moldy mcdonalds stuffed into an undersized container. Hopefully that helps.
@threecats8219
3 жыл бұрын
@@sponcthespork9352 OK cool, thank you. I suppose it was the last sentence in bold that confused it for me.
@joshuaharper1206
2 жыл бұрын
Is Shadow Warrior really better than this game though?
@raythepony
2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaharper1206 Since Shadow Warrior doesn't require motion controls, it's already more enticing to play.
This was one of my favourite games from my childhood and I'm genuinely happy to see a video on it in 2021.
Honestly, I really like this game, and I would love to see it re-released as a VR title with a traditional control option.
There's a show on HBO Now called Warrior that blends old western themes with Chinese culture and I think it came out pretty damn good
The big problem with the second game was that pistol ammo was hella abundant, at the expense of the other types. I always shot up furniture and boxes to get more money with the pistol.
Your rant towards the end about Nintendo over charging, hehe priceless. I whole heartedly agree sir!
@Gruntvc
3 жыл бұрын
$60 for a Switch port of the least popular Wii Zelda. Wii games were max $50... But still, Sony is the greediest charging $70 plus for games.
@TruTrae
3 жыл бұрын
@@Gruntvc at least sony have the quality to somewhat justify the price and have many sales that lower the price drastically. Nintendo only knows 60 dollars games now with the occasional 40 dollar sale.
@cr3d294
3 жыл бұрын
@@Gruntvc Sony's not the only one charging tho. It's the new next gen standard price I believe.
@Gruntvc
3 жыл бұрын
@Just a halo simp 117, True, you can buy both Sony and Microsoft exclusives for better lower prices during sales compared to Nintendo.
@Gruntvc
3 жыл бұрын
@Chad Reno, Sony has been leading the charge to increase AAA games to $70. Microsoft on the other hand said they'll stick to $60 for exclusives for the 1st year or two of Xbox Series X/S.
funny how this game was made over 10 years ago and still is considered a top ten to me
Rofl I love how apparently it's super honorable being a fucking gangster, and when did guns become dishonorable? I thought theyve been using guns for centuries? Hahahah
To that guy who thinks red steel one is accurate to Japanese culture. No, no it isn't. I'm learning Japanese culture and its not accurate
@xanaxodgrindcorelover9191
3 жыл бұрын
it seemed sus
@PesukaReloaded
3 жыл бұрын
Huh, you're telling me that Naruto isn't an accurate representation of Japan. Huh?!
@felisasininus1784
3 жыл бұрын
いいえ、それは完璧な代表です。
@felisasininus1784
3 жыл бұрын
*表現です
@felisasininus1784
3 жыл бұрын
How the heck was this comment posted 22 hours ago? The video was posted within this very hour. lol *I'm guessing it was in private view mode and the OP must be a friend of the FOV Dragon.
This is such a thorough analysis on what seems like a small and smaller game. But Red Steel 1 is part of my childhood and it's great to see a well-made video on these games.
Great video on something I've never played. Also that little rant on Nintendo was great. I don't even care about Zelda or their other titles at this point but I just despise their practices and what standards they could end up putting into place out of nostalgia.
Finally someone else who feels the same way about Nintendo’s crappy rereleases!
@hawkevick9184
3 жыл бұрын
Everyone hate that bs.
A Red Steel 3 where you can wield a sword and revolver at the same time would be great.
I miss the Wii days when I was too young to have any taste and liked pretty much every single game I played
The composite techno-retro setting of both the American wild west and Japan's Edo period is an idea that allows for limitless creative freedom. In film the romanticisation of the lone wanderer is prevalent in both American and Japanese cinema. The gunslinger and the ronin, presented in this game as Swordslingers. Without emphasizing it Red Steel 2's narrative is very similar to both works by Sergio Leone and Akira Kurosawa. In that estranged individuals find themselves seeking revenge and take up the mantle of the towns hero and savior in their quest.
one of the wii games that I loved in this vein was mad world. black and white celshaded. red blood. good times.
@troin3925
3 жыл бұрын
From the way you describe Mad World, it sounds like it stylistically resembles Sin City. Whenever I see something that’s black and white except for the color red, I always think of Sin City.
@drivanradosivic1357
3 жыл бұрын
@@troin3925 Madness combat also has that style.
I want to play this with a gun heavy build. I really enjoyed the first couple hours. VR is the natural evolution of Wii mote controls, a VR Red Steel 3 would be GREAT!
I'd like to recommend that you play The Citadel. It's my favorite FPS, and has been very inspirational to me. I think that it's the best example of controlling the scope of a project I've seen. It manages to effectively convey an atmosphere while using extremely simple level detailing- it uses around six or seven textures for the level geometry, but still manages to convey an oppressive atmosphere through good audio and enemy design. On my later playthroughs, I learned to appreciate all of the weapons in the game. Each of them is well animated and satisfying to use, and each of them fills a specific role, while still having enough overlap to not feel overly restrictive. The game also does very little to restrict what the player can do- one time when I was messing around I was crouching, jumping, shooting, using an alt-fire, aiming down sights, cooking a grenade, running, and kicking at the same time. Oh, also content warnings: this game is inspired by retro fps's, so it's very violent, and the guy that made it is Japanese, so it has an anime art style. Some people find that disturbing. Also there is some nudity near the end.
Red steel 3, cyberpunk, hack and slash, fps (borderland style) would be such a hit
during the boshin war period, the emperor of japan rose up against the shogunate for opening the borders of japan after being threatened by the united states. In the boshin war, japan had to quickly adapt from feudalism to modern (for the time) gun-based warfare. It was quite literally samurai vs dudes with guns. Britain and hte united states aided the empire of japan while france aided the shogunate. This time period saw rapid industrialization and westernization of japan, where feudal japanese culture was blendid with mid-19th century western culture. I think this might have been the basis of the "cowboys + samurai" concept the game was going for.
Always love the videos. Keep em coming! Thanks Jarek
What's cooler than a Samurai Cowboy?
Red Steel 3 as a VR game, now there's an idea. Closest we have right now is Sairento VR which is a banger on it's own, to be honest.
this is like the one of the few games i want a port of it to PC . imagine how amazing a remastered VR version will be .
@JangoTheBlueFox
3 жыл бұрын
PC is one of the few platforms where they can make gameplay like this work. I'm disappointed that the Resident Evil4 Wii Edition gameplay mechanics didn't get used in the RE4 Ultimate HD edition on PC.
@JangoTheBlueFox
Жыл бұрын
@@Walamonga1313 in the Wii version of RE4 the camera is controlled by the analog stick on the nunchuck and and the pointer on wii remote controls and on screen targeting reticle that can be moved around the screen independently of the camera. this gives you significantly more accurate aiming than the standard controls. but when they made the Ultimate HD version for PC they just had the mouse move the camera with the standard laser sight for aiming and it's not nearly as accurate.
It's always a good day when Jarek uploads
Well Chanbara and Western, are equivalents, so meshing them togethrr should be easy.
@Gruntvc
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it's like watching Seven Samurai and The Magnificent Seven. Or, Yojimbo then A Fistfull of Dollars.
@Mr.Foxhat
3 жыл бұрын
I mean, the Katana has been likened as a quick draw weapon. It is very much similar to the wild west concepts we've seen in media about the US.
This game did everything right IMO, and I never even heard about it until 2 weeks ago. Such a shame it didn't sell well... I will say, I did buy this game specifically because we just found a cheap Wii and I explicitly wanted sword fighting games, so the core of the game is what drew me in, as opposed to you who was drawn in for the shooting only to be bait and switched. Wii motion controls are far from perfect even in their best forms but this game felt pretty okay the entire way through. I mean VR is better in every conceivable way, but for the time, this game did everything in it's power to make up for the first game's failings. I really hope and pray for a VR sequel, or a VR port would be cool too. The ONLY major complaint I have about this game is that there's no endless arena mode. Apparently the developers were making one in the form of Challenge Mode, but ran out of time when it didn't work right and cut it down to become a replay mission button with a score target. God what I would give to get an endless arena mode. Guess I'll just die intentionally to the last enemy of a fun area instead. PS: Based Nintendo rant
I loved this game, one of the best ones on Wii. Now I want to play it once again!
Cowboys and Samurais are just 2 sides of the same coin, they compliment and complete each other
Great Video man I remember getting a Wii just for this game
It might be just me but I would love to see a Killing Floor 1 or 2 analysis
This was my absolute favorite game as a Child. So many memories, it's crazy
If they were to ever make a Red Steel 3 or even an entire series, I'd say that they take the Quake route by having the rest of the series focus on 2's story and universe and completely ditch the first game's story (update: while typing this, I just found out that the timelines of Quake are a bit more complicated and don't just simply ditch the first game's story. I only got this wrong information from a year or more ago when I skimmed and briefly looked at the Quake wiki because I was obsessed with Doom at the time). Red Steel 2 has a legitimate identity and a unique and fun concept of combining samurai and the old west. Plus, since the devs cared more about motion controllers being one of its main draws, they now have the opportunity to focus on the VR market. Update: He already talked about VR at the end.
Red Steel VR would be so hype
Theres actually a lot of historical compatibility between Japanese culture and westerns. Magnificent seven and fistful of dollars are adaptations of seven samurai and yojimbo.
The only issue I ever really had with Red Steel 2 was that there was no New Game+ mode. If you wanted all the upgrades, you had to get them during that play through if you didn't want to start a new game with nothing. This was especially frustrating since the final shop you could buy upgrades at was at the 2/3 mark of the game (that abandoned mine in the canyon level), but the game would keep giving you money throughout the final two levels even though you couldn't spend any of it at that point. If it ever gets an HD rerelease, Ubisofts better add the option to start a new game with all your upgrade you acquired from your previous play through.
Seriously, we need red steel 3, 2 was so fucking good
Glad you covered this game, I liked it when it came out
Samurai and Wild West aesthetics look good together because they are cinematic languages that borrowed from each other immensely. A Fistful of Dollars is famously a retelling of Yojimbo in a Spaghetti Western setting. Old Hollywood 'John Wayne' westerns might not be part of that, but the Spaghetti Western is a mishmash of US olf westerns, Japanese cinematic style, and post-wwII Italian social commentary. It works so well, because even if you can't name names, pop-culture has made it FEEL familiar.
Red Steel 2 seems like a good fit for VR. Trade out destroying your TV with destroying your wall.
This game is a great homage to the history of western and samurai films during their heyday, when they were both sort of inspired by each other and developed together half a world apart.
It works because in movies, samurai and cowboys are basically the same thing. The only other game that has this aesthetic is actually Borderlands 3, one of the dlcs has the same wild west plus Japan style
Jarek, you should check out the punisher game (2004). I think it's an underrated gem and I've never heard someone talk about, but it was a game I played religiously as a kid on playstation 2. Love the channel!
This was a frickin joy to play...I need to dig this out. It was so good Damn, I don't think I had any problems with the controls
I loved this game. Somehow I completely forgot about its existence until this upload.
Well wild west moives get inspiration from Japanese one so makes sense it works well
@somik-i3x
3 жыл бұрын
I was going to comment the same thing.
@Mr.Foxhat
3 жыл бұрын
@Brupcat Not to mention that the Katana has often been compared with the revolver as a quick draw weapon.
Wiiiiiiii great vid man
now is it me, or do these reviews seem funnier whenever Jarek hilariously rips on them???
This game was my child hood I loved this damm game sooo fricken much
Awesome vid :)
I remember my brother rented this, but didn't read that it needed a Wii motion plus and cried when the game didn't work
The setting reminds me of the Manga "Renjoh Desperado"
@CoolSs
3 жыл бұрын
never heard of it but look interesting . tho Red steel 2 oddly remind me more of Codehunters (MTV short animation) even if code hunters don't have the mixed theme .
A blast from my past
As someone who gives this game mad praise, I agree regarding the game feeling monotonous at times. I also agree that the game is mostly easy, however I do think the few boss fights in the game make up for that.
Great video with good points. I still remember this game as one of my favorites ever when it came out... I still rate it highly because of the Nostalgia but it was definitely something greater and revolutionary when it was released but is now just a pretty and solid game. Also.. after playing it for a while I was sword swinging in my sleep so my then girlfriend has a lesser opinion of the game .
I actually enjoyed skyward sword on the Wii but Red Steel 2s controls & combat felt so intuitive & great. I also found when I was a kid that controllers with the Wii motion plus already built in always worked better than the attachment with the remote. With the built in it worked like 97% of the time. With the the attachment I found like a good 10%-15% of the time depending on the game recalibrating the controller & it was annoying having to take it out of the little condom wrap for the remote just to hit that red button on the back. Wasn't game breaking but definitely was annoying when I replayed some Wii games on my Wii u when I only had the attachment motion plus & not the built in remotes anymore. Good games wish they got more of a shine but it came out at a weird timing for the Wii.
That Mayflash Dolphin Bar is cool and all... If I could get it to work on my PC -.-
This was my favorite game to play as a young kid
3:08 In Japan guns are dishonorable? Hey man, tell that to Oda Nobunaga next time you visit the 16th century
@jedimike7622
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, didn't he popularize the concept of volley fire with riflemen?
@tortoisesoup16
3 жыл бұрын
@@jedimike7622 Yes, he was. He first used it in the Battle of Nagashino where he defetead Takeda clans fearsome cavalry using the three man rotating volley fire (三段撃ち) (sandanuchi).
@jedimike7622
3 жыл бұрын
@@tortoisesoup16 neat.
Oh no buddy. I was just watching you're video on Far Cry 1 and I just realized, you're gonna have to cover the Wii version of Far Cry. Here's my regards I hope it's better for you than it was for me back in 2011.
I wish I could own the art book for this game.
Red Steel 2: Ok let’s try again
I used to have a lot of fun with this game back in the day. I never played Red Steel 1 and so back then I felt like I was missing out by playing the sequel before the original. Turns out, the two games don't have much in common with each other. The sequel is the only game I ever think of when I hear the words "Red Steel".
As a kid, this was one of the best games I’ve ever played
I got the notification 5 minuts after the video came out
Jarek, have you ever played Alpha Protocol and Second Sight? I used to love them and played them so much.
Speaking of interesting Wii titles - would you consider reviewing Overlord: Dark Legend? It gives some more background to Overlord universe, mainly to the origins of Overlords bloodline
imagine a star wars game with Red Steel 2 gameplay
One of my most favorite games
This was my favorite game on Wii
I want a Red Steel 3 too
Ohhh man, I want your review on the CoD series on Wii so bad! Please do it!!
Red Steel 2 maybe be aged now but imho it's got one of the most underrated setting in a video game and i am yet to see another game that shares similar setting. Like...a Merged Universe between two of my Favorite tropes i.e Feudal Industrial Japan and Wild west and You get to play as a Badass Samurai Cowboy with Katana and Revolver,What's not to love ?It's a shame the game is aged. I hope we get to a sequel to this game and yes VR would do wonders to this title.
Did you do a review of the rebooted Shadow Warrior games? This reminds me of those.
Did this game serve as inspiration for Borderlands 3 "Bounty of Blood" dlc?
@RainingMetal
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but Bounty of Blood was a huge borefest. Red Steel 2 was still more invigorating.
Quick Question, what are all of the systems you’re able to cover games on? Is it alley PC and Wii games?
@andrewrogers3067
3 жыл бұрын
7:36 i did not play it but if it did . a faithful remaster that change the second half of the game . like adding new guns/skills and enemy types . maybe even reworking levels to get the most of them will be nice .
My first time playing I stayed up all night and I got to the shinjoro fight number 1 The next few day my back, arms, neck and upper torso are killing me
If I'm to be honest, I'd have loved this game! I didn't know it existed, I knew about The first game but was warned to not bother with it. RS2 looks good & fun, man! It would have been nice to play other than the Metroid Primes all the time. Top vid, Jarek. Nice one. 👍 * I did notice a few nods to Ninja Gaiden.
Nerd mode Western aesthetics and samurai aesthetics blend nicely because the film genres are basically the same thing Philosophies are similar as well But this game is probably not getting into that so it really boils down to rule of cool
For some reason swings reminds me Shadow Warrior 2, which would be cool game if not for HP spongy enemies
Dude i was just wondering how a first person hack n slash like DMC would work in first person and then i see you post this vid... are you a psychic?
The Red Steel games definitely need to be remastered and ported on Nintendo Switch.
Hey, have you ever heard of the Nerf NStrike Wii game? I remember liking it as a kid but I don't have a Wii anymore.
... this would look great in VR
There's a lot of thematic overlap between Feudal Japan and the Western genre. Blending those is the bulk of Kurosawa's filmography. It's not something we see a lot of, but it does track better than one might expect.
Samurai western makes a lot of sense. A Fist Full of Dollars is just a western adaptation of Yojimbo, Magnificent Seven is an adaptation of Seven Samurai. (Go watch Yojimbo btw, amazing movie)
A remaster of this with slightly better controls for switch would be nice.
Most of the samurai films from which we learned about japan were inspired by American Westerns so this whole premise is more of a serious connection to that