Great vid Aaron. My first sharpener was the accusharp. I destroyed so many blades with that thing. Then I got the sharp maker and could never get it right. Then I got a used WEPS and have never looked back. That plus a manual strop and I'm golden. Love it.

Thank you for the compliment and shoutout brother, I very much appreciate that. Very good look at the two systems as well.

That's a great pro-tip. I'll go check those out myself today. Thanks.

I never give reviews, but I thought you did a great job explaining everything. thank you

The Wicked Edge, I use a piece of the checkered sticky drawer liner to sandwich the blade in the vice, it holds my spydercos really well.

Just for reference, I made a slug of aluminum blanks for my Edge Pro. Some of them have inexpensive after market water stones, some have leather and chromium oxide or other polish, and a few have Harbor Freight diamond stones glued to them. Look up, on line, how adding a drill bit collar (replace the screw with a thumb screw or knob) can allow you to use any thickness of different stones without altering the degree of approach. ___________________________ NOTE: You can cut thin aluminum on a table saw with ease. Just use the right blade and good face and eye protection. Put a bit of canning wax on the cut line to smooth and cool the cutting operation AND use push blocks.

Pulled the trigger yesterday, big thanks to wicked edge for there law enforcement discount. I feel great about the purchase and can't wait for it to arrive!

Not yet, I know I gotta pick those up soon, but I am more than happy with my results with the medium and fine stones. And Im playing around with laying something on the stones like paper, and using flitz to refine the edge a bit.

Agreed man, thanks!

Thats a good idea. Right now i use the sharpmaker because I own a few knives with FFGs. I think I know what system I will upgrade to next. Thanks. Thomas

A pro sharpener I know uses 1 of the Edge Pros in his shop and one of the Riuxin pros as well. For whatever that is worth.

I appreciate the video, and of course I'm 3 years late finding it. I haven't bought any system yet, been doing it by hand with a few different stones with my favorite being the Arkansas stones. But when I do get around to buying a system, it will definitely be the KME. For what your getting & the quality of every component, I truly believe the KME is the very best value all around, especially when considering the cost. If I'm gonna invest a lot of money in a sharpening system, I feel it shouldn't leave the user faced with such margins for error. Maybe not so much for the Wicked Edge, but The Edge Pro involves too much work & concentration, heck, I would just as soon continue honing by hand. So the KME will be my choice. Thanks for the video, I really enjoyed it, and very informative.

Very good video man!

I have the edge pro and although the WE seems like a great system I have no regrets. My learning curve on the EP was very quick. I knew that I had to make sure I didn't roll the blade while sharpening and it wasn't hard to handle. For the money, I prefer the EP vs. the WE. That's just my opinion. You can't go wrong with either.

I hope to get a Wicked Edge pro pack sometime in the future. The Sharpmaker is a great system for the price, especially if you get the diamond rods for tougher jobs.

Awesome vid. could you do a video of you using the wicked edge?

Is your edge pro still available? If it is, I'm interested. Thanks

Which system would sharpen blades that have a full flat grind easier?

damn dude, well made video!! I've been torn b/n buying one of these two high end sharpeners for a while now and your review was a big help. I will pay more for better sh!t, I just hate paying more for equal or lesser sh!t.

Not yet, I know I have to get them soon though.

Also Modifiedz has some REALLY good videos on maintaining and caring for the WE

Yep, it's all preference and accessibility. They're both equally good systems in their own right. Like I mentioned the WE system is significantly more expensive than the EP, if you can afford the EP you'll be happy with it I'm sure. Same goes for the Wicked Edge, or even the Sharpmaker for that matter.

i don't understand, aren't you supposed to use the clamp on the edge pro to hold the knife in place??

Diamond stones don't last forever they wear out too just don't need to be leveled and you can get those for edge pro too. Btw just wondering, how do you do a long knife on a WE? And also you use a magnet on edge pro that pretty much keeps your blade still

And a side note, I have never found the sharpmaker for $40, the lowest I have found was ~$51 on amazon. Its almost $60 on bladehq and other sites

Did you ever sell your Edge Pro?

From some studying, I found out that diamond stones should only be used on ceramics. Even though some steels are extremely hard, they're still to soft to use diamond stones. What happens is the diamonds start sticking to the steel when sharpening and come out. Diamonds should only be used when sharpening ceramics or leveling out your stones. If it matters, so it doesn't seem like I saw some vid and passing the info out as my own, I've worked my whole life in the metal fabrication industry as a welder and machinist. And from my own experience, this info is mostly true, there are circumstances where diamonds should be used on different types of steels, but it's on metals that are not normally used in knife blades.

@bob22610

8 жыл бұрын

dumbest Shit I've read in awhile...

@JoeTies

7 жыл бұрын

That's funny, because he's correct. Diamond stones are not solid diamond, they're diamond impregnated. You can think of it like little bits of diamond are glued to the stone (or held together by the "stone" material). Because diamond is so much harder than steel, the diamond pieces sink into the steel and when that happens to a sufficient depth, the steel surrounding the diamond bits will apply enough resistance to rip them from the stone. If you've ever used diamond stones on steel knives, you know that the stones wear out (they don't really physically wear much because the diamond that is not exposed is still there, it's just not functional) rather quickly despite removing a ton of material. That's why. That's not a guess, that is directly from the mouth of a mechanical engineer (develops machinery for Johnson and Johnson) who holds a masters degree in materials science and is probably the smartest man I've ever met. We had that conversation almost 20 years ago, and he showed me using a microscope that the diamond material comes off of a DMT stone with alarming speed when run over 1095 carbon steel, because I didn't believe it either. Diamond stones work great on ceramics, and will last a long time. They also work decently on certain very hard steels like Elmax (60-61 HRC or better). If you run a sharpening service and you DON'T know this, I'd say you need to do some research.

@TorlingJarl

7 жыл бұрын

hate to say it guys, but most if not all diamond sharpening stones are not ACTUAL diamonds. there is monocrystalline and polycrystalline, to put it simply, a monocrystalline should not break down. also, the results of a sharp and performing knife can't be argued. if something works for someone, let them be. the only exception in my opinion is carbide, that's a real blade ruiner.

@TorlingJarl

6 жыл бұрын

Ok, another thing now that I am quite educated on sharpening rather than new to sharpening like I was in the previous comment. Diamonds should not be glued to a surface, they should be bonded to the steel on the stone. That's what makes a high quality stone. KME for example. And again if something works for someone, let them be. I use diamonds with my KME and get good cutting and hair whittling edges at 600 grit. So that fact, true or not. Doesn't matter.

Good to know

I have been going back and forth on which system to buy for a week now. I want to be able to put a nice edge on my edc knives. I dig the wicked edge system but just think it is way over priced... I want to love the edge pro system. the owner Ben seems like a good dude and the price is a little more reasonable. But dang that wicked edge system just keeps pulling me in. I want to hate it, I want to go to the hardware store and build one lol. Some rc truck tie rods and a lansky sharpening system... Bottom line, any doubts I had about the wicked edge system are gone after watching these videos from guys like you that have actually owned and used both systems. Thanks for taking the time to make the videos. I'm gonna pull the trigger and grab a wicked edge system.

@aaronshapiroedc

10 жыл бұрын

You won't regret it.

@3obardThawn3

9 жыл бұрын

IM ON THE SAME BOAT !!!

Ah yeah, fair enough. Honestly I just ballparked that since it was an alternative. The prices on the WE and EPA are both from their sites though.

heh also true. Do you have the extra fine stones?

Hah, yeah eventually. Let me get a little better at it. X4CTO has an amazing video of his whole sharpening process that I would recommend.

Good review, albeit a bit biased.

Great review!!! I've never seen one of those "angle cubes" I think you called it? Where can I get one? Are they expensive?

@ronnieshirilla

8 жыл бұрын

Around $50

Thanks. I have a Edge PRo that I have used for several years. I have not used a Wicked Edge. Yes, the rocking of the blade can be a problem on smaller knives with an Edge Pro. If you are sharpening a knife or two, the Edge Pro is a great system for the money. However, it becomes very slow if you have to do a bunch of knives. You put in the coarsest stone you want to use, then sharpen all the knives at once (assuming the same angle), they you clean that stone, and insert the next finer stone and repeat. It can easily take a hours to do a bunch of stones. BUT (and there is always a but) from what I have seen, the Wicked Edge system has limitations on very small knives, whereas the Edge Pro does not. In fact that's it greatest strength-it can handle all sizes and shapes better than almost anything else, even recurve blades. From what I have seen, the Wicked Edge is a faster system to use, with more than one or two knives, and typical sized knives. The one thing I would NOT buy is one of the new Chinese copies of the Edge Pro that are currently floating around-Another Chinese rip off.

That is why I said that. If you're interested watch and see why, if not you have your answer.

I prefer the wicked edge also, but I can't afford it : ) by the way the spyderco is more like 50 bucks, and the ultrafine stones bring it up quite a bit more.

If the edge pro added a horizontal vice, that would (in my opinion) make it a lot better.

Not very biased in this review are you? Perhaps you should read the instructions that come with the Edge Pro and set the blade stop correctly so the blade doesn't wobble on the table as you showed more than once.

Maybe i will give the wicked edge some more time then. Thanks

And next to a ~$400 sharpener, what's $10 lol. I still love my sharpmaker. And I wish I could afford a WE so bad!

Stones are supposed to be consumable, just like the Japanese stones the pros have been using for hundreds of years. Korin knives in NYC has a youtube channel and they show you how to sharpen your knives taught by a apprentice of a master trained in japan. They teach to develop one side then the other. I personally think if a technique that has been used for so long is still being used today by the masters, why change it

I ended up getting the wicked edge. Its cool i can put a pretty good edge on a knife with it. But im thinking about ordering the edge pro. After owning the wicked edge now im thinking the edge pro would probably put an edge on a knife faster. I could be wrong, time will tell. I wont discard my wicked edge until i give the edge pro a shot.

@aaronshapiroedc

9 жыл бұрын

You'd be wrong.

@drivingmuffin

8 жыл бұрын

+wake boarder Do you like the wicked edge better now, or did you end up going for the edge pro? :-)

@XxWakeboarder911xX

8 жыл бұрын

+Andris Kompelien I've got the wicked edge and like it. It took upgrading all the hardware to make it great. My brother bought the top of the line edge pro. There are things I like about his and things I like about mine. In a perfect world I would have both. I like his for kitchen knives or large knives and like mine for pocket knives. Can't go wrong with either one. They are both awesome tools.

@drivingmuffin

8 жыл бұрын

wake boarder Thanks for your reply, it's really helpful! Nok easy to find many good comparisons of these systems. I think I might go for the edge pro professional first, but I also hope my wallet allows me to get a wicked edge after a while too :-) hehe

The wicked edge is better for me, stones doesnt wear out, you get super razor sharp and is smaller

ON THE SHARPING SYSTEM THE BLACK ONE IF YOU UNDO THAT WING NUT THE SILVER METAL WILL SLIDE UP AND HOLD YOUR KNIFE

@aaronshapiroedc

8 жыл бұрын

+Charless Hunt WHAT?!

@stoneybeek5257

8 жыл бұрын

+EDCish lulz

LOVE HOW YOU CUT THE BULLSHIT OUT !!!

Hah thanks.

I've been using edgepro sharpener for years, 100% better than the wicked edge & much safer than wicked edge, also way more Versatile than the way over priced wicked edge.

@markworledge

4 жыл бұрын

I have the wicked edge gen 3 with every add on you can buy I thought it could never be bettered that is ou till I bought the Edge pro professional with the Edge Pro Matrix stones I'm afraid the wicked edge gen iii is just a very expensive piece of DIY sharpening gimmick in comparison to the Edge pro professional

1:30 min in Wicked edge Wins. don't need to watch the rest of the video now lol.

If you want to get your moneys worth, or just simply get real value and get a sharpener that does exactly what the wicket edge does wich is way way overpriced, get the KME sharpener, check it out before you WASTE your money on either one of these products.

TL;DR: Wicked Edge Master Race Edge pro peasants

both systems are extremely over expensive for what they are. For the r&d? What development? its not rocket science, my seiko watch probably needed 10 times more development than these simple jigs. To anyone Id suggest tormek t7 if its available in your country, thats a much better system with lots of capabilities from knives, to carving tools, planer bledes to turning tools, axes etc.700 bucks for a sharpening jig and finger size stones for knife sharpening? That must be an american joke, sigh..