Why Zoom lenses are a Nightmare for photographers...

This week I'm talking zoom lenses with my Sony 24-70 f2.8 GM II. Zoom lenses are very useful, but I also think they're difficult to use especially for beginner photographers, and here I explain why...
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  • @SibruOfficial
    @SibruOfficial Жыл бұрын

    James explaining photography concepts through random, seemingly unrelated examples has got to be the best part of these videos!

  • @newsigmundfreud3023

    @newsigmundfreud3023

    11 ай бұрын

    ye ye.

  • @WarKrieg
    @WarKrieg Жыл бұрын

    I am in a tiny minority that absolutely *haaaaates* the beginner advice to stick to primes at first. I tried that and hated it and immediately bought a zoom lens and finally found JOY in my camera. Zooms are FUN. This is a factor that so much of so-called serious photography advice ignores. I spent my first year of photography running around with a travel zoom capturing all kinds of things near and far and loving every second of it. After a while, I had enough experience to become aware of the limitations of zoom lenses and the advantages of prime lenses and began using and appreciating the latter. We all have cell phones nowadays and when we first buy a "serious" camera, it needs to offer something significantly better for the interest to stick. For me, that was the zoom lens. It made photography a lot more fun than with my cell phone. That's how I fell in love with photography. When people start out, they just want and need to have fun. They don't need artificial limitations for the sake of pedagogy.

  • @volodymyrd6132

    @volodymyrd6132

    Жыл бұрын

    That plus as a beginner you get the possibility to try a bunch of different focal lengths and decide what primes to get if you want them later.

  • @traceybartlam7737

    @traceybartlam7737

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed with you!

  • @jacklachlangill8935

    @jacklachlangill8935

    Жыл бұрын

    Hard agree with this. I started out with the gx80 and it's 24-70mm equivalent kit lens and I immediately went and purchased the 90 - 300mm equivalent zoom for a trip round SE Asia for 3 months. Having access to such a wide range meant that I could take pictures of whatever I wanted and I discovered an absolute love of portrait photography that I never would have got with just a 35mm or even the kit lens by itself. I've since swapped the kit and zoom for a superzoom 28-300 travel lens (which I love) and bought myself small fast primes for speiifc purposes that my superzoom can't quite do justice to - a 40mm for street, a 90mm for portraits, and I'm currently hunting for a wide angle for astro. So yes - get some zoom, have fun, and see what you enjoy shooting at / taking photos of. After that we can look at honing our craft

  • @manicfoot

    @manicfoot

    Жыл бұрын

    Couldn't agree more! My zoom lens enables me to think on my feet. If I had a prime I'd have no choice but to move on my feet😅 I haven't tried a prime yet, but I don't see myself giving up the flexibility a zoom lens gives me anytime soon.

  • @josefsvitak4313

    @josefsvitak4313

    Жыл бұрын

    Please bear with us, dinosaurs from the last century, whose first camera was a point and shoot and who went to large sensors in search of sharpness and large apertures.

  • @MrFcasas
    @MrFcasas11 ай бұрын

    Just a little tiny observation: a lock with three wheel, each going from 0 to 9, has 1,000 combinations (000 is a combination), and if it has four wheels, then you have 10,000 possible combinations.. On other matters, I love zoom lenses because they allow me to capture details of faraway subjects that I can't get close to.

  • @halimrahman

    @halimrahman

    11 ай бұрын

    I was about to comment on this one 🙂 The event space is between 0 and 9, giving you 10 unique random variables that are mutually independent. Each wheel is independent, and each wheel must then exist in its own R+ dimension. Indexing each random variable to an integer, "0" maps to 0, "1" to 1, etc, we can safely assume (although it is already concretely in R) that the probability space lies in the R^3, uniquely for the three wheels probability. Then you can count all the possible events by multiplying the max number of events for wheels 1, 2 and 3 ie 10 x 10 x 10. Then, it is a similar process for any number of wheels. I have a love-hate with zoom lenses and I own only one, the Sony FE 24-70mm F2.8 GM and 8 prime lenses. If it is a stage concert (I volunteered several times to take photos during our uni annual party), I prefer the zoom lens as we are not allowed to go onto the stage. But if the events let me get closed and allow me to mingle around, I'd prefer to have Sony FE 35mm F1.4 GM almost the entire time. But, I do usually have Sony FE 55mm F1.8 Zeiss the entire time, just in case. Last week I was in Spain for a holiday and I just got Sony FE 24mm F2.8 G that I bought two weeks prior and I just fall in love with this lens. Street photography, group photos at a table in a restaurant, foods on the tables, individual plates, beaches and half-body portraits. It might not be the best, but it works most of the time. Perhaps because it is small and light.

  • @arthurkallinen

    @arthurkallinen

    11 ай бұрын

    I was about to comment this as well. You mean tele lenses. There are Wide&Tele lenses, and Prime("Fixed")/Zoom lenses. Zoom is with variable focal lenght (sometimes also variable apeture at different focals), 24-70mm would be a zoom lens 24mm is wide-end, 70mm is tele-end. 50mm lens is a fixed, considered tele lens. ≤24mm is ultra wide 24-35mm is wide 35-200mm is tele ≥200mm is super tele (These are half my assumptions, some have other definitions as well)

  • @j797s25

    @j797s25

    4 ай бұрын

    him saying "if i got the maths right" when he was wrong was just bait for us to comment and increase engagement and we fell for it.

  • @CharlesLockyer

    @CharlesLockyer

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@halimrahman this is what I came here for, and didn't watch the rest of the video until I found the right answer 😅

  • @matthewsparks9005
    @matthewsparks9005 Жыл бұрын

    Came for the lens discussion, stayed for the far-reaching analogies. Great as always, James.

  • @savnac
    @savnac Жыл бұрын

    FINALLY somebody addresses the problem with “zooming with your feet”. It’s almost never that parallax from “zooming with your feet” won’t ruin a composition you want to simply tighten into without shifting the components of your image. This is where zoom lenses are superior. Prime lenses are great for portability, low light, and intention. Knowing you have a specific focal length on your camera to shoot a certain way (for example, 35mm for environmental subject photography, or 16mm for establishing shots), it allows for less distraction and laziness from just zooming your lens when you may actually want to shift your composition around without realizing it. You can of course do this with zooms too, but you must stay mindful of that before turning the barrel. Also your point in a zoom lens offering a wider variety of options muddying up your workflow is SO relatable. I love how with a prime lens I can just walk away from a scene in little time because I only have so much I can capture, and limitations breed creativity, but with my zoom lenses I tend to stay there so much longer just looking for shots using every focal length printed on that lenses barrel. In conclusion I have yet to decide on wether I want to shoot all zoom or all prime, and for now I have a mix of both because they are apples to oranges indeed. I think your fail-safe mentality with zooms is a great way to use them, and a way I’ll try to use my tiny prime-sized Sigma 18-50mm 2.8 myself.

  • @plusgood15

    @plusgood15

    Жыл бұрын

    Calm down

  • @savnac

    @savnac

    Жыл бұрын

    @@plusgood15 huh?

  • @mgegibson

    @mgegibson

    Жыл бұрын

    Fujifilm gang

  • @savnac

    @savnac

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mgegibson yessiirrrrr

  • @remektekmedia6641

    @remektekmedia6641

    11 ай бұрын

    Get a high resolution sensor camera and just crop in during post.

  • @paul.zothner
    @paul.zothner Жыл бұрын

    So close. 0-9 has 10 values as zero is its own distinct option, so 999 has 1000 options. I bought my camera with a 28-70mm kit lens and bought a 50mm prime later for the sweet, sweet bokeh. I forced myself to take all my pictures with the 50mm so I can learn the techniques for composition. One of the few times I've felt like a zoom lens would be better for me is when I've taken photos at a crowded event and not been able to move back far enough to get people in frame.

  • @DavidinEssexUK

    @DavidinEssexUK

    Жыл бұрын

    Thx. You beat me to it.

  • @Lucy-dk5cz

    @Lucy-dk5cz

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, this is right. We start from 000 not 001

  • @MarcelVolker

    @MarcelVolker

    Жыл бұрын

    And on a related note, the 100-400mm lens would have 301 focal lengths by mm ;)

  • @pinatacolada7986

    @pinatacolada7986

    11 ай бұрын

    If you happened to have a suitcase with a 3 digit combination lock that was missing the number zero - there would be 729 possible numbers.

  • @mrmicro1416

    @mrmicro1416

    11 ай бұрын

    There are 10 types of people.... People that get it and people that dont.

  • @banditalley9592
    @banditalley9592 Жыл бұрын

    My own advice about zooms is to leave the camera in the bag. Find your shot with your eyes - decide what you want to include and what orientation, then get the camera out and adjust to zoom to fit your vision. Otherwise I just 'see through the camera' and spend a lot longer fiddling about rather than just deciding what the composition is with my eyes, then using a camera to get it.

  • @ThisIsWideAngle

    @ThisIsWideAngle

    Жыл бұрын

    It's a very good advice, but not exclusive to zooms.

  • @johnanthonycolley3803

    @johnanthonycolley3803

    Жыл бұрын

    Excellent advice 🤗

  • @tonyblake8841

    @tonyblake8841

    Жыл бұрын

    Your birds in flight photos must have a low keeper rate 😂

  • @thomasmaughan4798

    @thomasmaughan4798

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tonyblake8841 "Your birds in flight photos must have a low keeper rate" You beat me to it.

  • @173jaSon371

    @173jaSon371

    11 ай бұрын

    Said no wildlife photographer ever haha

  • @SilatShooter
    @SilatShooter Жыл бұрын

    I'm a zoom fan, yes I have primes too but when traveling especially there are times and places I can't 'zoom' with my feet and/or I don't want to encroach on a stranger's space. Not to mention, having multiple focal lengths in my hands and less weight to carry all day is a major convenience. I gave up being a purist with primes and all the snobbery that went with it (at least for me) and have embraced my zooms.

  • @reinhard8053

    @reinhard8053

    6 ай бұрын

    I think you can easily use both. Find a motive, move as far as possible until it looks good, then use the zoom to get as much as you want on the picture. And additionally maybe zoom a bit out for further changes on clipping or if you need portrait instead of landscape or vice versa. With film it was even more important because most of the time you needed to fill a slide exactly as you wanted it because you nearly couldn't change anything afterwards (especially with a projector). I just tried a new camera (with zoom) in the city and found several motives. I also took a SLR with film and a 50mm. There were lots of motives which just couldn't work because you are limited on position. And even if you can move there often will be other obstacles get in you way.

  • @SilatShooter

    @SilatShooter

    6 ай бұрын

    @@reinhard8053 agreed completely with you. Obstacles absolutely exist and get in the way of getting closer to your subject. Thus zoom lens...

  • @stefanwagener
    @stefanwagener Жыл бұрын

    As long as you have got only 1 or 2 primes, yes, the choices and decision about focal length is easier than a zoom. But once you got a lot of primes like 24, 28, 35, 50mm your decision process which focal length to take (decide either at home which lens to put in your bag or when carrying all of them around) isn't really much easier but much more cumbersome if you want to check different focal lengths before taking the shot!

  • @zeissiez

    @zeissiez

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly

  • @andrevaca6700
    @andrevaca6700 Жыл бұрын

    It’s 1,000 combinations. 000 is included Great video!

  • @Roterknopff

    @Roterknopff

    Жыл бұрын

    wanted to point it out as well ^^

  • @anthonymartinez4212
    @anthonymartinez4212 Жыл бұрын

    I personally always go for zoom’s because i don’t have the funds to be buying 4 quality prime lenses vs 1 quality zoom lens

  • @peterhayward1848

    @peterhayward1848

    11 ай бұрын

    Agreed!

  • @orvvro

    @orvvro

    11 ай бұрын

    Not to mention the inconvenience of having to carry around so many prime lenses. 1 zoom and 1 prime could be more than sufficient though

  • @slampest

    @slampest

    11 ай бұрын

    Its about the same price, depending on which prime lenses youre thinking of. One quality f2.8 is hella expensive. But you can zoom 4 primes likewise adds up, but you have to change the lenses. I would say a mix between zooms and primes is good.

  • @NDakota79

    @NDakota79

    5 ай бұрын

    You don't need 4 primes, 2 is plenty

  • @basuramanya
    @basuramanya Жыл бұрын

    I love that you say the island had not great photo options and then proceed to take a photo better than anyone I have ever taken. Great video.

  • @Hangiinjohnny

    @Hangiinjohnny

    Жыл бұрын

    So far. And don’t forget we are our own harshest critic so you may have more gems than you think

  • @TooTurntToad
    @TooTurntToad Жыл бұрын

    I feel like i'm listening to a 5 year old tell me a story, and somehow i'm understanding every single bit of it while understanding none of it. Job well done James!

  • @DanaPushie
    @DanaPushie Жыл бұрын

    The One Handed Southpaw Newbie Photographer here James. Love the channel! So very glad your out there. I think I most enjoy your approach to explaining your personal view of photography and your photos of course. Inevitably I come away with a better, deeper understanding of things like: concepts, this gear versus that gear; why do this not that. Love the dialogue. Love the stream of consciousness and your awareness of your surroundings. I'm quite glad I'm a Johnny come lately, because there is so much I want to learn and your a part of my library. My almost daily walks with my camera are now more intentional, focused and enjoyable. I really don't care if anyone ever sees my photos because that is not the point. As they say, It's the journey I'm into. All the best. Regards from Nova Scotia. Thank you for sharing.

  • @Lazyparkbench
    @Lazyparkbench Жыл бұрын

    I love how James is able to humanize his craft by putting himself in the shoes of a viewer that’s more than likely not as successful as he is. When I watch these videos I feel like a friend is talking to me and not a seasoned veteran (I mean that in the best way possible). Thanks for staying humble James!

  • @NIGHTWULF

    @NIGHTWULF

    2 ай бұрын

    I think "down to earth" is the term you're looking for :)

  • @Lazyparkbench

    @Lazyparkbench

    2 ай бұрын

    @@NIGHTWULF ahah well yeah that’d summarize the long version perfectly!

  • @holycaketree
    @holycaketree Жыл бұрын

    For me the main reason to have a zoom lens (16-70 f4) is that I sometimes just want to take 1 lens with me without having to compromise on the possible compositions. Sure, I compromise on the aperture compared to my 30mm f1.4 or a 85mm f1.8 but most of the time thats not the main concern. Often my main concern is weight and portability. I dont want to carry an extra backpack just for lenses if I am going for a walk. And always sticking with one prime doenst work forever I believe. At some point you start seeing so many great shots that would benefit from a slightly different focal length.

  • @jake_teki
    @jake_teki Жыл бұрын

    I will never get tired of your random interjections that have seemingly nothing to do with the topic at hand. It manages to keep videos interesting and engaging, top notch humor and great video as always!

  • @shaunieponde7080
    @shaunieponde708011 ай бұрын

    I’ve been a fan of this channel since I started my first year in college. I find the subject you talk about easy to understand and often times similar to how I feel about photography. Each week I look forward to your videos and can’t wait to see how this channel continues to grow. Also I hope anyone reading this has a lovely day.😊

  • @christophernewton5816
    @christophernewton5816 Жыл бұрын

    0000 is also an option, so you have 10,000 options. That aside, I really appreciated the zoom vs "zoom with our feet" illustration. I'll have to dust off the zoom!

  • @elho001

    @elho001

    11 ай бұрын

    And then there is the additional option to use a TSA key instead of bothering to fiddle around with those dials... 😜

  • @stew_redman
    @stew_redman Жыл бұрын

    The Canon 28-70mm f2 has been a game-changer for me. It's attached to my camera 90% of the time, taking the place of a few primes for most use cases.

  • @dannymacs

    @dannymacs

    11 ай бұрын

    excuse me, 28-70 f/2? WOW, I had no idea those existed. Not with Nikon it doesn't, sadly

  • @jacksong6226

    @jacksong6226

    11 ай бұрын

    I use a vivitar 28-75 on my Canon A-1

  • @stevemadrid6522

    @stevemadrid6522

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah, the 28-70 is a beast! Best lens I've ever purchased!

  • @aidanwilliams9452
    @aidanwilliams9452 Жыл бұрын

    Always love hearing your thoughts, all the random tangents and spontaneous background events included

  • @erikyoung2193
    @erikyoung2193 Жыл бұрын

    Yes, yes! Couldn’t feel more similar about zooms/primes. Seems ridiculous but using a zoom as a secondary option simplifies everything massively

  • @hakeryk
    @hakeryk Жыл бұрын

    Oh my god... I started my photo journey with 50mm f/1.8 and after that slowly I grew my lens collection with primes only: 85mm 1.8, 135mm 2.8, 35mm 1.8 and I always wanted to have zoom lens. Finally, after almost 8 years I bought 70-200mm f/2.8 AAAAAAAND.... I was so disappointed. I thought that it will be so versatile, that now the land of opportunity opened for me, no more missed shots, perfect composition every time. Oh how wrong was I. Thank You for this video because I can agree with every word in it. I thought that there is something wrong with me that I just cannot use zoom lens properly. "Limiting yourself" is actually more creative, it is forcing you to find this perfect composition with every inch of your body. You just have to start feel the place around You. I will keep this 70-200 because I will be shooting with it only with fixed focal like 135 or 200mm because - same as You and for other reasons like sport/event photography.

  • @hjalmargrip
    @hjalmargrip Жыл бұрын

    Big fan of your content!! You always go on such nice jurneys and show of the best of landscape photography!

  • @DylanSpitz
    @DylanSpitz Жыл бұрын

    Your analogies have a way of hooking me in, making me laugh and almost losing me, then making sense. Great video, James!

  • @_NoDrinkTheBleach
    @_NoDrinkTheBleach Жыл бұрын

    The thing I realized when I got a 24-70, is that if I'm not shooting 24 or 70, I'm almost always somewhere between 35mm and 40mm. So I ended up buying a 35mm lens and use it most of the time. (and additionally, I use an X100 more than my mirrorless camera, probably for the same reason) I find the value of zooms to be more important on the long end of things. I shoot auto racing and team sports. 70-200 gives me a lot of useful focal lengths. 100-400 even more so.

  • @jaynepainter1839
    @jaynepainter1839 Жыл бұрын

    Zooms have opened up a new world for those of us that are less able and do not have the option of zooming with our feet. Great video thank you .

  • @AlfieRonin
    @AlfieRonin Жыл бұрын

    as a concert photographer who started off with only a prime lens, it was an absolute ballache of a learning curve and i had to work so much harder than those around me to get 'the' shot. however, i wouldn't have had it anyother way; i learnt some really useful discipline while also developing my eye for composition at (what felt like) an accelerated rate. but with that said, i only ever use a zoom lens now and i love it

  • @ethannarrow5209

    @ethannarrow5209

    Жыл бұрын

    How are you able to make money doing that?

  • @trekkeruss

    @trekkeruss

    Жыл бұрын

    I shoot for one band, and I am not constrained to a pit or three songs. I can shoot entire shows, and from anywhere. That said, I am still bound by the layout of venue and the stage wings (or lack thereof). My most used lens is a 100-400, followed by the first lens I ever bought, a 24-105. Last is a 14-24. I also use 70-200, but the 100-400 has mostly replaced that. I have been wanting to add a prime or two, not for the focal length, but for the stop or three of extra light.

  • @DeepinLife
    @DeepinLife5 күн бұрын

    Hey James new to the channel! I really enjoyed hearing your thoughts on this topic, as a video first person, this reminded me when I first started going down the visual journey. If as a new Photographer/Videographer you find yourself not know what to shoot because of the endless options, what focal lengths to shoot, what composition, aperture, iso, etc. Limit your options! Limiting your options may sound like a bad thing when you're first beginning, but ironically the process of limiting yourself helps you refine your thought process on an individual factor, allowing oneself to practice more of that skill. For example most of us could can communicate, but we didn't start with telling our life stories. We started with learning the sounds of each alphabet, practice writing out each individual letter, putting letter together to form words, Learning what the formed words meant. Putting words into a sentence, putting sentences to form a paragraph. You get the point. So, I like to refer to the concept as the three C's, Constraints Creates Creativity. Similar to how back in English class the teacher gave us a topic to write about because they knew that most of the students wouldn't even know where to start. Thanks for the video James!

  • @samuelcook9196
    @samuelcook9196 Жыл бұрын

    I love your photography videos as well as your photography. As a beginner I'm still striving to take just a couple shots that capture a scene as well as the ones on your website.

  • @natadm_5188
    @natadm_518811 ай бұрын

    I love the means in which you explain your ideas and get your points across, the tangents such as the pin lock and guitar make all your explanations memorable 😁

  • @dronevideos1872
    @dronevideos187211 ай бұрын

    I think what you want to say in this video is: "Don't forget that you still have the option to walk forward and backward when you have a zoom lens!" This way you can put a beautiful mountain or whatever into or out of view. The zoom function can glue photographers to the ground. Thanks for this eye opening video! 👍

  • @MassimoRosamilia
    @MassimoRosamilia Жыл бұрын

    Wow, James, your ability to seamlessly transition from ambulances to guitars in a photography video is truly remarkable! Can't wait to see what noises you'll bring us in the next video!

  • @thomaswhittaker5199
    @thomaswhittaker5199 Жыл бұрын

    Having recently picked up film photography after acquiring my uncle's film camera and lens collection this was my exact reasoning for just grabbing the 50mm and sticking with it. In comparison to my digital camera where I'd shoot aperture priority with autofocus, going to completely manual was definitely a step up so to make the whole process easier my first thought was to remove the need to think about focal length. So far it's been great and I don't see the need to pick up any other lens for the foreseeable future.

  • @taliesinwilce5786
    @taliesinwilce578611 ай бұрын

    Watching James has really helped me enjoy photography more and get better at it. His advice of sticking to one lens on a day of shooting really makes you look for a photo opportunity and think about the composition more, without the panic of swapping lenses constantly and finding you've missed a shot from all the faffing around. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. Thanks, James.

  • @jonstout7635
    @jonstout7635 Жыл бұрын

    Always great points that pierce the heart and mind. Any footwear advice for great foot zooming techniques?

  • @pastapleton
    @pastapleton Жыл бұрын

    I think there are cases for both. I found that as a beginner with not a lot of cash, a cheap prime was a great way to get some quality glass on my camera. But then when it comes to work, I would say that my 24-70 is by far my most used lens. It’s just so useful when you need to be fast and get shots on the go. But then again it’s much more expensive. So I think there is many reasons for both primes and zooms, all depends on what you need 😊 Great video and nice photos James. Looking forward to the next one!

  • @rabonour

    @rabonour

    4 ай бұрын

    The price factor is real. When I was in photojournalism school we all bought 50s because they were cheap and, with cheap cameras with bad high ISO performance, we often needed the wide apertures. Once we had nicer cameras and could afford good glass we started caring 24-70/2.8s and the primes became more niche tools.

  • @liamrodgers3391
    @liamrodgers3391 Жыл бұрын

    Being new into photography and already obsessed with it, I'm really glad the algorithm showed me your channel James! Really helpful advice for a newby like me

  • @Tardsmat
    @Tardsmat Жыл бұрын

    Interesting to see zoom lenses positioned as the more advanced, more difficult option. I think more often you see zoom lenses associated with beginners. Honestly this video made me wanna use zoom lenses and master the difficulty.

  • @somedude8604
    @somedude8604 Жыл бұрын

    Restrictions often make the best art. Really gets you thinking outside the box :)

  • @WarKrieg

    @WarKrieg

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think it's a good idea to start photography with restrictions, which is why I reject the advice to start with prime lenses. Start with a zoom lens and have fun. Over time you will learn the value of prime lenses and restrictions. But a beginner should be free. I think people automatically import into photography this ethos that austerity/restrictions are good for beginners, without absolutely any evidence that this is in fact true. I think restrictions only force creativity once one has become comfortable in the craft. And the best way to be comfortable is to have unrestricted fun. Use that zoom. Shoot all kinds of things as a beginner. Little by little, over time, you will start appreciating the value of restrictions and start using prime lenses, film, etc. But for a beginner, forget all that. Get a zoom and lens and go out and enjoy yourself. Capture beautiful images that bring you joy without regard for artificial restraints.

  • @ChrisThe1

    @ChrisThe1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WarKrieg as a beginner i loved shooting on a prime and got tired of zooms quickly. guess everyone works a little different

  • @Jazodog
    @Jazodog Жыл бұрын

    I recognized Croatia on first clip. Hope you had a great time, Brač is my favorite Island and summer destination for last 20 years. Thank you James!!

  • @utahnl
    @utahnl Жыл бұрын

    A year ago i started using specific focal lengths on my standard zoom to learn their different perspectives and later on different focal lengths for their specific perspective, it really helped my creative process and got me creatively un-stuck again.

  • @johnclay7644
    @johnclay7644 Жыл бұрын

    Informative video Thanks James.

  • @SamoScopom
    @SamoScopom11 ай бұрын

    I have a few thoughts on this 1) since I got a mirrorless camera I find that a lot more dust gets in compared to my DSLR, so changing lenses has become a more dangerous operation 2) I definitely had been thinking out this exact thing - that having a zoom makes me more lazy. You said it perfectly with the phrase muddies the water. 3) If you know what you want to say with your picture the range of options narrows down quickly. Yes, saying to somebody to get fixed focal length is good, but with one focal length they will never understand why I'm running away from the subject and zooming in rather than staying where I am and zooming out. I was shooting a concert yesterday (just for fun, not hired) and I had a fixed 20mm on, and a three of my friends waved at me from their table to take their picture, I snapped it on the 20mm because I was lazy to change lenses plus they didn't feel like moving closer together, and of course the picture came out bad. Had I had a zoom on, I would step back and zoom in.

  • @jshariff786
    @jshariff78611 ай бұрын

    Fantastic video and advice as always, James!

  • @chirantha
    @chirantha9 ай бұрын

    Great vid as always mate! Keep it up!

  • @mmsa6465you
    @mmsa6465you Жыл бұрын

    what you say always is about new angles to things compared to many photograghy channels I follow, and the way you say it is like a nice friendly chat, and even the subtle jokes you make are just well balanced and natural :)

  • @iainmacadam2119
    @iainmacadam211911 ай бұрын

    So glad to see someone actually address the problem with zooming with your feet: your feet are what controls perspective, and using them to zoom will create fundamentally different images. I think there's perhaps value in having a beginner stick to a prime precisely because it forces them to observe how position impacts the composition, and gets them out of the trap of standing wherever they end up and composing by zoom, but it shouldn't be dogmatically pushed on them as the only proper way to learn. And for many it's just a learning tool, not something they should commit to for an extended period, and that's why the advice to buy a prime, and ignoring the possibility to simply use a zoom like a prime, is often impractical and a bad use of funds. Better to have a beginner commit to a focal length on a zoom, experiment with others when they realize a choice won't work, and get experience with multiple focal lengths before committing to one in a prime. I'm an exclusively prime shooter myself, but I think the advice pushing beginners towards primes often gets a little out of hand. Maybe a prime will be perfect for them, maybe it'll harm their development to be stuck with it-either way they should get some experience with multiple focal lengths rather than investing in just one before they're qualified to know if it's right for them.

  • @brucedelorme5026
    @brucedelorme5026 Жыл бұрын

    James, I love your perspectives. I feel like I just sat through a calculus class in college. But weirdly I totally understood what you were saying. Great job

  • @dance2jam
    @dance2jam11 ай бұрын

    Late to this party, and probably first time to this channel. Two quick points. First, it never fails that different genres, boiled down to their basics, are very much alike. In dance, when more people are having difficulty with slightly more complex choreography, it's helpful to have them go back to the basic roots of the movement, and understand those first. Second, I enjoyed your discussion on PRIMEs vs. ZOOMs, and in sum, agree. That said, for action or sports photographers, shooting at only one focal length is possible, but means lots of missed moments and potential shots. I know you meant this in a general way. You did say, that only when you couldn't get the shot at a focal length, you engaged the zoom. However, most sports photographers I know live with their hand on a zoom ring these day. Thanks for a thoughtful and uncommon look at this topic on KZread. From your comments and views, you do not need my well wishes. Lovely work.

  • @MacnTeensVisuals
    @MacnTeensVisuals Жыл бұрын

    A man of many analogies. Lovely shots and totally agree with the prime lens thing 👍

  • @rdallen9211
    @rdallen921111 ай бұрын

    I truly enjoy your take on zoom lenses. For years I've been told by many other photographers to "move your feet and get closer" as opposed to zooming. Now you've brought my main argument against that school of thought to light. For this I thank you!!

  • @jeffreywrightphotography
    @jeffreywrightphotography Жыл бұрын

    Always interesting to hear your perspective and this one is very different from the way I photograph. I never think about the focal length I'm using, i find the composition first, then find the lens that lets me achieve that. I did start out with a 50mm prime on a film camera about 35 years ago though; and though I'll still use a 50mm perks for some things it remains my least favorite focal length.

  • @PhilipBallGarry
    @PhilipBallGarry4 ай бұрын

    Totally agree James 👍 Typical scenario for me: Prime lens on - let's go! Initial composition ✅ Decide depth of field ✅ Exposure ✅ Check composition again and click! Zoom lens fitted: Composition - erm... Choose appropriate focal length - erm... Depth of field - erm... Exposure... Change focal length Change focal length Erm... 🤔🤔🤷‍♂️

  • @inshadowz
    @inshadowz Жыл бұрын

    I use zoom more or less as a “live cropping tool”, i.e. I don't think too much about the actual focal length while shooting, but concentrate instead on getting the composition I want (which still involves moving around to get the right angle). Tons better than cropping in post! The Nikkor 18-140mm (~27-210mm) is my go-to, like 95% of the time with my D7200. Yes, it's a budget solution; yes, it's a hobby; no, I haven't sold any… yet? But it's decent quality for the cost and convenience. Also I'm lazy, so my feet don't zoom very well. If I want the fixed focal length challenge I do also have a 35mm (~50mm), which can be really nice some times, and it sets a whole different mood for the shooting process. This all said, I do most of my shooting “from the hip”, picking subjects as they appear. This doesn't allow for much planning, focal length wise, so the zoom is essential.

  • @nathandoras
    @nathandoras Жыл бұрын

    This is exactly how I use zoom lenses. Cut down option paralysis by sticking to the common focal lengths, and pick my preferred focal length for the scene. Might take more trial and error than using a zoom the 'lazy' way but imo this gives some of the benefits of using a prime lens while still having the versatility of a zoom. Great video and discussion, James!

  • @nq3052
    @nq305211 ай бұрын

    Great video love the honesty and light hartedness top notch boyyoooo

  • @AcidGrains
    @AcidGrains Жыл бұрын

    I only carry two lenses, I carry two primes, the 24mm EF-s is always on my camera for my home town documentary photography project and spontaneous street in the city, my 50mm is for when i specifically ask for a portrait where i want compression and separation, the 24mm covers everything else that I do (Documentary stills, street, architecture, and travel).

  • @user-fn8yt1tr4c
    @user-fn8yt1tr4c Жыл бұрын

    Great and chill video. Enjoyed

  • @rickyfrost8860
    @rickyfrost88607 ай бұрын

    Love the video (as usual). Next time you might want to touch on my reason to use primes over zooms, maximum aperture. I sometimes am looking for the look that only the 50mm 1.2 will give me.

  • @ShonSayfuddinov
    @ShonSayfuddinov Жыл бұрын

    Love James joke deliveries and the random guitar comparisons. Never fails to crack me up!

  • @EntropicRemnants
    @EntropicRemnants11 ай бұрын

    Hi, James. Good video as always. I don't struggle with zoom lenses at this point -- maybe because I'm 68 and been doing it so long -- but there's a principle I now use rather instinctively based on the idea of inclusion vs. exclusion. It also relies on one's ability to pre-visualize one's shot. You kind of hit on it at the very beginning about the mountain. I'll take a moment to explain if I may. Painters work by "inclusion" -- they put in the work what they want. Photographers must work in the field by exclusion -- framing to make sure nothing is in the frame we don't want since we don't control the scene. That is the first thing I consider before choosing a focal length of a prime or on a zoom. Do we want a lot of context in the non-subject areas? Or do we want less because it's "busy" -- some of the things one thinks of. The next of course is where to shoot from which really must be considered with the first idea. However, now it's more based on getting the distance relationship between background and foreground nailed down to once again control what's included in the shot and how it appears relative to the subject. Sometimes it much improves things to shoot wide and get close to make the background "small". Other times one wishes "compression" from the shot and a "longer" focal length is appropriate from farther back. Ha ha. I'll contradict myself now and say the FIRST thing I consider is whether or not it's a tight portrait. That immediately moves me into "longer" focal lengths. Never the less, I do believe that having some simple "rules" that eventually become instinctive, all based around the inclusion idea, rather simplifies the process. At least for me. Although maybe I'm kidding myself as I do believe you are a better photographer than I may be. And if I'm describing things you already know, please forgive me. Perhaps someone else will read this and benefit.

  • @laurencet4502
    @laurencet45025 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this James. Your explanation neatly pulls together all the reasons I have always found using anything but telephoto zooms difficult. If you had asked me, I probably couldn't have given a reasonable explanation, but you've summarised it in one short video. That isn't to say a wide-medium zoom wouldn't be handy in some situations - it would - so I like the explanation of how you use your zoom - that's worth experimenting with. Cheers.

  • @user-cr5wt6gl2o
    @user-cr5wt6gl2o11 ай бұрын

    You've pointed it out very nicely. I too feel myself often lost with zooms, like I have too many choices with no way to determine which is right to pick. To many variables in the expression so it's progressively hard to solve. That's why I most often find myself on the very ends of my zoom range :D

  • @neeravnaik
    @neeravnaik Жыл бұрын

    This is just so relevant to me. I have been limiting myself to primes all these years due to the exact reason. The options really muddies the decision making.I am deciding between the sigma 28-70 or the Sony 35 1.8 to go along with my 50 1.8. Key reason being easier to have to at zoom while travelling but afraid I would not enjoy the process of shooting it due to the points you made.

  • @christopherparsons7125
    @christopherparsons7125 Жыл бұрын

    I completely agree with you. When I started properly getting into photography, a knowledgeable family member of mine recommend I get a prime. However, when I bought the lens I did not realise that it was a prime. For the first while, I hated it. But then I started getting into it and I am now so thankful that he recommended that lens to me. It forced me to search and work for my compositions. These days, I use a 24-70 primarily. I do miss the days of just using a prime but I do feel a zoom lens has helped me to get better photos. One of my favorite things to do when finding a composition is working out exactly what should and should not be in the frame. It's something that James has echoed in previous videos. The biggest challenge in photography (at least in my experience) is working out how to simplify a photo to make it look good. That's where zooms come in to my workflow. I work out what I want in my frame and choose a focal length based on that. If I want less in my frame so I can focus on my subject I use a larger focal length. If I want more in my frame then I zoom out. That's something I can't do with a single prime. But the temptation to just be lazy and stand in one spot and zoom without thinking about the consequences is massive. I've fallen into that trap more times than I would like to admit.

  • @diypma
    @diypma Жыл бұрын

    Always enjoy your insight on why these easy turns of phrase are rarely as true as they first sound. We'll work on your counting skills for future videos...

  • @jasmijnnobelen445
    @jasmijnnobelen445 Жыл бұрын

    With so many trips I can't wait to see the addition of vol. 4 to your photobook collection... Last December my partner found it really hard to find me some other gift ;)

  • @georgebarronjr
    @georgebarronjr11 ай бұрын

    As mentioned in the video zooms give you options. Options equal flexibility. For the opportunistic photographers like myself, flexibility is critical. Sure, the options can be overwhelming if you dwell on them too much. I prefer to look at the scene, decide on a composition and then make it work. You move, you walk, you change position and you zoom to get the composition you want. Simple. I fell for the purist street photography mantra of carrying a single prime and making it work. Went so far as to buy a Fuji X100v (fixed 35mm equivalent lens). It is an excellent and very cool (for the hipster doofus in all of us) camera and I got lots of great images on my last trip to Italy. But I also saw, but was unable to capture, a lot of other great images due to the inflexibility. A small camera or a typical DSLR with a small prime can be a pleasure to carry. However, for me the gigantic ponderous 24-70 f2.8 is going to be my go-to most of the time.

  • @lisasimpson9343
    @lisasimpson9343 Жыл бұрын

    Just love your approach James, always makes me laugh. I have nearly always used a zoom lens, I find primes very restrictive. I'm not in your league but I never procrastinate over a shot, I see something I like, adjust my zoom to what I like and take the shot, no thought apart from taking the image I'm seeing in my minds eye. Maybe I'm just not careful enough..... Cheers, keep up the good work.

  • @colbybundy6082
    @colbybundy6082 Жыл бұрын

    Still waiting patiently for James Popsys Vol. 4, the next masterpiece in my photobook collection.

  • @brandonburridge
    @brandonburridge Жыл бұрын

    Great video! I personally find myself much more creative with primes. They force me to simply find a way to get the shot or move on to something else. I wish I had the discipline to use them the way you do!

  • @nicolasquermia455
    @nicolasquermia455 Жыл бұрын

    I am using exactly the same approach with my zoom. Forcing to use a specific focal lens help to improve my composition. I usually do use the 45/50 range. When I did look at all my pictures, interestingly, most of them are often around 50mm as they look more 'natural'. Thank you for all your great video.

  • @DanielBuford
    @DanielBuford Жыл бұрын

    I started with primes so the whole zooming with my feet was never something I dwelt on. Truthfully even though I mostly use zooms now I still on occasion move back and forth rather than adjust the zoom. At any rate another great vid James.

  • @greenmedic88
    @greenmedic88 Жыл бұрын

    You know what would solve the problem? Clicks on the zoom ring. Some will instantly get it. Others will ask, "what's the point?" Part of the problem with zooms is there's no real reason nor indicator for shooting at any given focal length, which for a lot of shooters, is a part of what defines their signature or at least their intent when they go out to shoot. Presumably, at least some of those shooters use zooms like primes: they set the focal length and move to compose appropriately.

  • @1NebraskaPyro
    @1NebraskaPyro Жыл бұрын

    I LOVE your editing style

  • @yakamo
    @yakamo Жыл бұрын

    Great topic! im battling with what lenses to get when i upgrade my camera. So difficult to figure out. I love my primes.

  • @fotografi4fun
    @fotografi4fun Жыл бұрын

    Finally some words hinting about a new book 😊 Looking forward to it 😊

  • @billb8262
    @billb8262 Жыл бұрын

    Great point about zooming with your feet. There are really two options when using primes and we ignore the more difficult one when using that comment. The other, to get a tighter shot but preserve the view, is to change lenses. That takes extra gear, a bit of time, and patience that, in a moment, may not be reasonable or could force a missed shot. I’m a mostly prime shooter, taking zooms only when going to unknown places with unexpected shots at any moment, and I feel the pain of not just carrying a couple zooms at times. It’s a choice for me, mostly about size and weight for convenience. However, it’s a trade off and one that has to be made consciously to avoid situations like the shot around the 4:00 mark. I want to use quality zooms, but most are larger than I want to carry. I feel like i could talk about this endlessly because it truly is a choice and a set of trade offs.

  • @FalloutUrMum
    @FalloutUrMum11 ай бұрын

    I've personally always shot with a zoom lense, unless it's raining then I'm using a DJI Osmo Pocket I don't mind getting wet. But the way I've learned to think of compositions is I'll see what I want a photo of and visualize what I think it'll look good at, then zoom in or out to that level. It's also interesting to experiment with lense compression on certain shots as well

  • @NicPandaOfficial
    @NicPandaOfficial Жыл бұрын

    5:25 you are missing 1 to make it 1,000 possible combinations hehe. Kidding aside, great video and a lot of learnings from your channel. Subbed!

  • @petermcginty3636
    @petermcginty3636 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you James, great video. I really liked the photos where you obscured the horizon. I prefer to shoot with primes 50mm+. I use a 100-300 like as a prime and as a way of getting, 100mm, 150mm, 200mm etc.

  • @Augnos
    @Augnos8 ай бұрын

    Interesting perspective. I’m fighting myself to keep using my 24-70 instead of buying more prime lenses, and I’m only scratching the surface of keeping the zoom at a pre-determined focal length to get the look I want. Thanks!

  • @LowGrav1ty
    @LowGrav1ty11 ай бұрын

    Just I thought I'd mention, as someone who uses shallow depth of field for creative choice, with a prime you have much more freedom as it will allow the lens to open much wider 👌 and... zooming with your feet is not zooming... its moving... not the same thing at all... and you also have to deal with lens compression too when you're zooming in... anyway...love the videos, James! 👍

  • @AmorLucisPhotography
    @AmorLucisPhotography Жыл бұрын

    Thanks to the crop tool, you have the same problem with a prime as you have with a zoom. The basic difference is whether you are faced with the extra choices in the field or during post-processing.

  • @JohnSmith-ov7iz
    @JohnSmith-ov7iz Жыл бұрын

    I don't know about where other folks live, but around here when I see potential shot I get one option of where to take it from. Right here. Otherwise you are in traffic, in someone's yard, in a load of poison ivy, etc, etc. I have a 50mm prime on an old canon AE-1 I have been trying to learn, and quite often I have to give up on a shot because it simply cannot be got from "right here". I don't own a prime for my Fuji X-T30.

  • @douglasmccart8963
    @douglasmccart8963 Жыл бұрын

    Best explanation and methodology for using primes and zooms brilliant analogy as well helped me make a final decision as well thanks a million mate

  • @julianheritage6436
    @julianheritage6436 Жыл бұрын

    Love that boat filling station image too James, my kind of image. Lots of negative space, the light was stunning making it more intriguing as to where the horizon was too. Oh and the human element rounded it off nicely 👍

  • @austinarmentrout10
    @austinarmentrout10 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, I have tried using my prime 50mm for some shots but since that’s my only prime, I tend to lean more towards my 18-135mm for my shots especially when out doing landscape.

  • @cameronmencuri4306
    @cameronmencuri4306 Жыл бұрын

    Tons of opinions in here, and none are wrong. In the end people need to do whatever gets them out shooting photos. Thanks for all the work you put into these videos James.

  • @ledheavy26
    @ledheavy26 Жыл бұрын

    When i started in film days with an old ae1 with a 50mm I bought a 24 and a 100mm lens to accompany it, and I hated carrying multiple lenses and changing them when I didnt have the focal length needed. I then switched to a Nikon autofocus body and bought a 28-70 f2.8 zoom after seeing how the pros really just needed a trio of 2.8 zooms from 17-300mm. That one 28-70 zoom stayed on my camera for years until I got my first Dslr, again with another zoom. This was before photography youtube channels making everyone second guess everything. I never thought about what specific focal length I was at unless it was getting dark and I needed to worry about my shutter speed. I would see a scene I wanted to photograph, zoom or not to get the desired framing (including moving with my feet) and then focus/expose. That zoom lens was a GODSEND for me, not a NIGHTMARE. Some of my favorite images even to this day were taken with just the one 28-70 on my Nikon, just grab the camera and go. I honestly think that the vast amount of youtube photography channels can be looked at as a nightmare for beginners because theyre looking for guidance and often getting confused by wildly differing answers to their questions or they get stuck with the same tropes that get passed along by people repeating bad information.

  • @Wildicon19
    @Wildicon198 ай бұрын

    You know James, You have unorthodox explanations, however they make sense. I have a 200 - 600mm Zoom and I just adjust it on the fly to suit my preference in the shot I take at the time. You have a great eye for composition, and a sound knowledge in the nuances of photography. Thank you for sharing your wisdom.

  • @MarcelVolker
    @MarcelVolker Жыл бұрын

    Brac - very nice! We were there almost exactly a year ago, on a daytrip from Split. Visited Bol too, lovely and very photogenic.

  • @HansBaumeister
    @HansBaumeister Жыл бұрын

    Interesting aspect, thank you for giving food for thought! Image compression at different focal lengths is another factor that the human brain can’t fathom anywhere near the speed it would need to in order to make a good decision on the focal length to choose. I certainly don’t have the mental capacity to take that actively into consideration as I walk through a town to shoot photos. I’m hoping that experience is helping me there on a level I don’t even realize (though probably not…) There is a different consideration, of course, if you’re not doing walkabout shooting but rather shooting events where you simply need different framings of activity as you move closer or farther away. Perhaps you could get away with using a near-perfect 35 or 50mm and a 45mPixel+ sensor and then just crop as needed, but most of us don’t have the cash for the needed equipment and need to resort to zoom lenses.

  • @Fotznerwin27
    @Fotznerwin27 Жыл бұрын

    A very interesting topic I must say. It really hits a weak spot of mine. I've got three zoom lenses for my Nikon D700 - a 20-35mm, a 28-80mm and a 70-210mm. The only one I use regularly is the 20-35mm and this lens exactly is the reason why I haven't bought myself a 35mm prime yet. I just use this as my 35mm lens and only go wider if I can't get my composition right. The 28-80mm is a nice go-anywhere-do-anything lens and I love shooting with it everytime I put it on my camera but it's almost a little too much in terms of different focal lengths/options. Long story short, zoom lenses are a joy to use and a nice little challenge if you use primes almost exclusively.

  • @JACKnJESUS
    @JACKnJESUS Жыл бұрын

    I only have two zooms... a long one...because I cannot justify dropping over ten grand for one lens. The other is the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8...because it's an f/1.8. Thing is...all of my images have the same 'look' with the zooms. That can be a plus for some. You can change the focal length...but it's the same lens...and is going to have the same look. Having primes...gives me...'flavors'...it also gives me a bit more DOF options. I do think everyone needs at least one zoom...but I personally only use it on occasion...so it keeps its' 'flavor'.

  • @adreaminfocus
    @adreaminfocus5 ай бұрын

    I’m a beginner photographer and I chose to go with prime lenses for exactly this reason. I felt totally overwhelmed by having to think so much more using a zoom. I love how you use it and I’ll have a go using my kit lens❤

  • @JayKay0245
    @JayKay024511 ай бұрын

    Great video! Thanks

  • @hilleviupmanis8687
    @hilleviupmanis868711 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the video!

  • @christopherdallenbach2524
    @christopherdallenbach2524 Жыл бұрын

    James you bring up some interesting points, here are my thoughts. The “zooming with the feet” isn’t an end all solution and while there are many cases where changing your position can help with composition there are just as many examples where it can have undesired results like the one you showed in your video. As for a zoom lens being an issue for a photographer I think that depends on how you go about using that tool. When I am taking pictures with a zoom lense, I am combining different focal lengths and different positions. In the era of digital photography where there is very little consequences to taking multiple photographs and having the flexibility to change your composition with a quick flick of the wrist is invaluable to me. When I first got into photography I started with a prime 35mm on full frame and quickly learned the limits of that focal length. It wasn’t until I got a proper zoom lense that I really started feel growth in my composition as a photographer. Certain shots and compositions are often best captured at different focal lengths and switching lenses is often not in the cards for many reasons. I believe that a 24-70mm or a 30-120mm zoom lense is the best option for a beginner. Primes should come after you start to discover that you are shooting a certain focal length more than another. Found that I love 85mm for that exact reason and it is my favorite prime lense in my kit. Let’s also not forget that if money is deciding factor as it often is for everyone, why not choose the tool that offers you the largest amount of options and flexibility? Primes are for the experienced shooter or for someone that has a specific use case. Product photography and vlogging come to mind as examples where getting a prime might be the right choice out the gate, but for everyone else go with a zoom.