"Update, January 19th: I've updated the title and thumbnail because it turns out a lot of people don't even get to the second sentence of the video before writing me off forever!" ---Tom Scott

@RythmicRaindrops

Ай бұрын

Thank you! I was going to comment that as well. A bit disingenuous to misrepresent what Tom Scott said.

@RythmicRaindrops

Ай бұрын

Thank you! I was going to comment that as well. A bit disingenuous to misrepresent what Tom Scott said.

@Fs3i

Ай бұрын

Turns out, Colin and Samir don't either. Disappointing.

@BazilDay

Ай бұрын

@@RythmicRaindrops It made me go "did they even researched on the facts a bit"

@thomasr1051

Ай бұрын

Tom usually has a reasonable reason for what he does

I think the main reason that Tom Scott adjusted the thumbnail on his last video is to better reflect what he's saying in the video and not because of a sudden change of mind. At around 3 min in that video he describes his plans as "taking a break" and "this probably isn't goodbye goodbye, like not forever" which clearly shows that he is reserving the option of making new content in the future.

@thelifewithnate

Ай бұрын

I think it was just for the shock value honestly, lol. What? My favorite KZreadrs are retiring, where are they going? :O Type of stuff.

@newtalexander

Ай бұрын

@@thelifewithnate barely even shock value because he said he was retiring from the weekly series a long time before that final video

@DominicI1

Ай бұрын

I agree. He was probably one of the most upfront about it and was very clear from even months before that he would stop weekly uploads but he was not quitting entirely.

@wonday2738

Ай бұрын

@@DominicI1 Sounds like he had a sudden change of mind in deciding his thumbnail could better reflect the actual message of the video and not what would he might have thought would get the most clicks...

Tom Scott never said he was retiring for good and 100%, he just said that the regular uploads would stop, he was clear on that for a long time. So the update in thumbnail (and title) is most likely just a change that was needed because many people misread the title.

@interestsavvy6813

Ай бұрын

I agree, he mentioned the consistency of upload will change

@wizardofwinter7696

Ай бұрын

I think you just did more research than the team producing this one did...

@SomeoneNone123

Ай бұрын

Yes! Tom clearly stated that in his video...

@Fs3i

Ай бұрын

Yeah, this is actually insane. Did they ... not watch the video? He's been extremely clear in his Video. "This is not 'woe is me, I'm leaving the internet forever'" is literally within the first 10 seconds. At 2:10 Tom Scott says "it's time to take a breather," and in the first 4 minutes he explains that he might even upload more of the same series. Like, this makes me actively want to watch Colin and Samir less, because basic comprehension is kinda important.

@wizardsmix7961

Ай бұрын

You guys are the idiots here. They are talking about how it was clickbait. They aren’t arguing that his original intention was to genuinely quit forever.

This is why I recently made the conscious decision not to scale. I love the creative side and hate the business side.

@BartDoesArt

Ай бұрын

Although I’m Not Huge Right Now I Feel Exactly The Same. For Some Reason I Try To Overcomplicate Everything And It’s Burns Me Out, However I Always Come Back And End Up Doing The Same Thing That Got Me To Where I Am Now!

@firelordplayz

Ай бұрын

And you absolutely do not need to scale to become immensely successful. The first example that comes to mind: Sam Sulek. He got to 3 million subscribers in less than a year by literally just recording himself at the gym, day in and day out. No fancy stuff, no collaborations, no gimmicks, no nothing. And every video of his has been getting hundreds of thousands or even millions of views.

Mom, i finally made it on a Colin and Samir video

@BartDoesArt

Ай бұрын

😂 That Is Definitely A Huge Achievement!

@Just.anythingyt

Ай бұрын

Lets goo

@LJ_alltheway

Ай бұрын

Congratulations Parker!

Super surprising to hear my name pop up in one of these shows! Thanks for the inclusion in a really fantastic conversation. I absolutely agree with so many points that you all made 👍🏼

Hearing a lot of my internal struggles being validated is very healing. Thank you guys 🫶

@WhizPill

Ай бұрын

Feels a little less crazy for us out there

@BartDoesArt

Ай бұрын

I’ve Dealt With A Bunch Of Burnout For Months At A Time, Idk What Changed Now, But Whenever I Don’t Post I Burn Out. It Be Might Because I Just Don’t Want To Disappoint! No Matter What I’m Not Going To Allow Myself To Burn Out Again, Because If I Don’t Post I Just Don’t Feel Great.

We’re getting to that age in KZread where we get to see what retirement looks like, and it’s weird….

@CalvodeMiel

Ай бұрын

meh it's not that deep

I love the loyalty to Tom Scott in this comment section

After so much struggles I now own a new house and my family is happy once again everything is finally falling into place!!

@BenoitBenedict

Ай бұрын

I'm 37 and have been looking for ways to be successful, please how??

@GabrielMacaulay

Ай бұрын

Thanks to my co-worker (Alex) who suggested Ms Mary Elizabeth Webb .

@GabrielMacaulay

Ай бұрын

She's a licensed broker in the states 🇺🇸

@GabrielMacaulay

Ай бұрын

After I raised up to 325k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states 🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my son's surgery (Oscar). Glory to God.shalom.

@BrendaMcCarthyyy

Ай бұрын

Wow that's nice She makes you that much!! please is there a way to reach her services, I work 3 jobs and trying to pay off my debts for a while now!! Please help me.

What an upgrade with the new intro! Amazing work by the editors for this video.

MatPat and Tom Scott: I am gonna stop doing this specific kind of KZread videos, that I am doing for at least 10 years, its not goodbye goodbye, but its a part of my life and audience for so long that I think it deserves a proper send of. Internet: OMG so you guys are retiring? Never gonna seen again? What a bold move, everyone gonna miss you so much. Also internet after realising they didnt actually retire: You liars

@wonday2738

Ай бұрын

Lol bro, none of their titles or thumbnails said that. A lot of people see titles and thumbnails and never watch the video. Creators are aware of this, it's their fault for clickbaiting.

As an artist (photographer) that got "retired" due to sickness out of my control, and also extremely frustrating because I'm not ready to stop working, I feel that first part HARD. If I wasn't stuck with the changes that got forced me; I'd 100% still be working. Lmao'd at the Tom Scott comment too, I went in late to his channel but he sure had a lot of fun. I see it as the algorithm forcing creators to put out more videos than they wanted because otherwise youtube would stop showing/recommending them. KZread is a very strange medium now that it's trying to be commercialized by google and had lost a lot of it's freedom. Especially with the newfound ad push.

Thanks to you both for this episode. I constantly struggle to find the balance between channel growth and my own sanity. I burnt out super hard last fall and almost quit.

2 views in 1 second, Colin and Samir fell off

@rockhitbant5

Ай бұрын

Damn that's so bad.. they really fell hard

@seanoconnor7355

Ай бұрын

700 views in 7 minutes.. jeeez guys

@Asura6969

Ай бұрын

3040 View in 21 minutes Its Joever 😔

@TeddyMillionares

Ай бұрын

Drop the "why" in the title. More clickbaity

@caleb.mcgregor

Ай бұрын

6,000 views in 37 minutes, Colin and Samir fell off

In my opinion most people that claim they have stress and burnout have never had a really crappy job. I have been in the military and have worked in customer service for Netflix. I wake up every day like it is Christmas because I am a full-time creator. Even when things are rough and the views are down it is better than the best days in the Army and Netflix.

@FosukeLordOfError

Ай бұрын

Burnout I think is generally caused by effort that does not line up with what we get out of it. As linkin park said "I tried so hard and got so far but in the end it doesn't even matter"

@asdasdd320

Ай бұрын

I get your point - but you're simplifying burnout to match your reality of the world 👍

@FosukeLordOfError

Ай бұрын

@@asdasdd320 kzread.infoBpKF-lCxBMQ?si=VYDGfdVr0-6PN49g

@DJ_POOP_IT_OUT_FEAT_LIL_WiiWii

Ай бұрын

Good points here. I'd happily burn out if a job pays well. But after 20 years and no prospect of ever owning anything you do end up thinking that you do it for survival only. Also, health issues creep up and it's easier to burn out when you aren't as healthy as you were.

Opportunity will turn any creator into a daily problem solver. Measuring your time during a week where you’re doing what makes you happy and in the creative lane you want is super valuable for pushing the needle and never having to “retire”. Great conversation guys!

Ayo guys I just wanted to say growing up I watched you guys on the TLN and I saw your guys leaving video. I didn’t know you had this channel till 3 days ago I love getting to watch your videos again glad yall are doing alright.

I have yet to watch the whole video but something that already struck me as weird was MatPat and Tom Scott catching flack for "retiring", when both very clearly stated that they are retiring from continuously hosting and releasing "their" main formats. Both clearly stated that they wont just be gone forever but refocus their attention elsewhere. Tom Scott retired the recurring, scheduled format. MatPat retired his main host role

@wonday2738

Ай бұрын

They're getting flack for clickbaiting it as such, MatPat was just on the show and described his "retirement". Colin and Samir are aware of this, they simply assumed most their viewers could understand the context they're speaking in. Looking at the comments many didn't. Why would you make a comment before watching the whole video? Also, Colin and Samir recently hosted MatPat, how is that flack?

I absolutely love and look forward to your chats together! So glad you are continuing them 😊so much great info❤

Thank god you guys posted! Morning routine with you talking in the background is as good as it gets ☀️

Colin and Samir are like a weekly newspaper on the the creator economy that you eagerly wait for. Thank you guys!

Tom Scott literally NEVER said he was fully retiring, I'm shocked no one picked up on that

That point about the "singular artistic voice" is really interesting. At a certain point as you scale that "artistic voice" also becomes a "brand voice". It might be based on the original voice(s) of the individual creator(s) but as you build a team of people, all of whom have an impact on the final product, it becomes a branded style and tone of voice instead. And it's the scaling up of the projects, teams and scope that requires that shift.

Oh man, this format has the vibe of a talk show, but with actual substance. I’m a fan! Great content, as always.

Excellent video. There are a few points that really resonate with me and my non-KZread job e.g. moving from risk taker to risk manager. I think this is not retiring, but moving forward.

Just starting to reach that point of "do I scale? Do I want to?" I really appreciate this conversation!

4:37 guys *YEEEESSSS* !!! i’m obSESSED with the shottz that show both of you sitting at the table in the frame!!! keep it up!!😮👏👏

You made a point that will stick with me forever. You are a successful video, media platform, “ on KZread”and have been unsuccessful 70% of the time. I took the leap to be a full-time creator, and 2021. Exactly 3 years ago. Averaging 1.5 million views per month that number dwindled down to 250,000 per month. I am technically a failure on KZread at this point yet I still manage to do this full-time. Because of a massive pivot. ( won’t get into what I did here ) but, hearing you guys say this, and living through it myself really helps me not feel Alone. You guys rock I watch everything you do and thank you so much for putting your best foot forward 100% of the time so that 30% success rate can keep you going because you guys sure add so much to this space Chris .

blessed be thou when colin and samir upload

Not only youtubers/creative people building a team or a business need to only move forward at the pace that trust can be built - if you want to life a healthy (in all respects) life - that's invaluable advice as well.

Lovely! Enjoyed the perspectives. 😊😊

Liked and subscribed. This topic is hot and has been discussed by lots of KZreadrs, you 2 made the best deep dive and analysis of this topic and it makes it kind of emotional as a beginner content creator.

Absolutely love this new intro, it's just so clean!

thanks for the update my man

Honestly loving the inclusion of the creator support style conversations in between the epic interviews Missed the deep end! both provide so much value.

The thing a lot of people are forgetting about Tom Scott is that he announced he’d stop a year before it happened. In both his original announcement and his goodbye video he talked about it being a break instead of permanent, and that he’s still going to be doing his Lateral Podcast, Technical Difficulties etc., and the thumbnail change is just because people saw the thumbnail, made assumptions that he’d be stopping forever, and didn’t watch/pay attention to the content of the video.

@muneebelahi7580

Ай бұрын

True.... I was thinking about that. It seems like not many of the people know of the video he made a year ago explaining his decision

Watching this part on jackets - 29:19 -i really liked how Colin and Samir used this video to demonstrate their point. This vid felt typical of a Creator Support video), and i enjoyed seeing an example of how you can pick up an identity, even after two weeks of “retiring” and old one :p

I mean, regarding Tom, he always said (before his retirement video) that he's just retiring from the consistent weekly videos, not forever. The thumbnail "GOODBYE." was kinda just click-baity.

I missed that format ❤happy to have you back here. Creator support gang 🙋🏼‍♀️

I really like the matrix bit. Especially when Colin has the matrix background. A lot of value added in this video. Thank you

Thanks for sharing it. ✌️

The montage is wonderful

Woahh that new intro is so cool! 🔥

LOVE THIS the deep end made me smile

This reminds me of “Great Big Story” who took a 5 year break and came back super strong!

Glad these are on the main channel. Never understood the 2nd channel as helping creators is what yall talk about.

Love the spicy takes in this! I want to see more of Colin and Samir's real opinions on stuff. Even if there's a little bit of a roast!

Awesome video always enjoy your video's!

Simplicity is a gift. 🙏

@BartDoesArt

Ай бұрын

For Sure! Every time I Try To Overcomplicate/Change Something On My Channel I Get A MASSIVE Burn Out! I Thing Ive Learned The Hard Way At This Point 😂

I feel like at the same time the "false" retirements are also clickbait into getting people to know what their next projects are in a way. It's a weird but effective way of selling something controversial to generate some market interest. Awesome video as always!

You guys are true thought leaders. The ideas you talk about in these videos are the best, so happy the “Breakdown” style videos is back (a bit) on the main channel. I love the interviews, just also think that you guys have so many original and poignant things to say about the Creator Economy

U GUYS ARE MY FAVORITE PODCAST AND SAMIR IS LIKE AN ELDER BROTHER TO MEEE IDK WHY HE GIVES ME THOSE VIBES ALSO COLIN LOVE U TOO 😂❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💛💛💛

As a wedding photographer, I started just myself and my wife, and then we grew a team. After a while, I realized this isn't what I wanted to sign up for. I think you guys are spot on with not retiring but trying to figure out what is my new creative identity.

This became my favourite show ever:)

dude the part bout risk management and risk taking... so real...

@thelifewithnate

Ай бұрын

Do you agree with the sentiment that KZreadrs are risk takers? I'm not sure if that's applicable with what we do on the platform.

@WhizPill

Ай бұрын

some people take risks and it takes real commitment to make this youtube thing work long term@@thelifewithnate

It’s like the concept of “How can I miss you if you won’t go away?” Sacrifice some frequency, but it makes those returns mean that much more.

I'd love to see more documentary style videos from y'all - highlighting the 'how' behind creator events

Tom never planned on leaving forever.. he literally says so in the video. Colin and Samir, I'm disappointed. I expected you all to do proper research, but just the first minute of this video says otherwise.

I like your words on your board.

shots fired! I got my floaties on! hahaha .. love yall's content always

Just so sad to see the legendary KZreadrs leaving us.

@MohammadShahanKhan025

Ай бұрын

KZread and the world will not be the same without them.

6:25. I remember this is why Matt D’Avella decided to not scale. He mentioned in his video once he sat down on a zoom call in front of a team he wasn’t doing what he loved about it. As a Software Engineering manager, I totally understand. I wouldn’t want this to feel like what I do at work.

Love the new intro

👍👍👍 and SUB! Great video, great discussions. Always present online, and myself included, I always think about youtube creators such as yourselves.

We see the bigger channels quitting, but the middle class creators are exiting a lot as well. It feels like we just can't break the ceiling and with KZread, you don't get all the time in the world.

Colin got it right at minute three. Amazing analysis.

have a happy retirement guys!

Same for music producers: As soon as the album is out you're already thinking about how to keep the buzz alive with the next one. The hussle is exhausting.

I like that “jacket” metaphor (analogy?). Though I do think that hasn’t always been the reality. Up until very recently, the understood rule on KZread has been, “you cannot afford to take a break because people will forget about you and not care when you come back.” Not that that’s always been the case; plenty of very successful channels have taken long, announced breaks and returned to even greater success. But they’ve always been seen as the exceptions. I’d say pre-COVID era creator advice would say, “You might as well burn the jacket, because if you put it away, whenever you decide to take it out of the closet and try it on again, no one will be there to see it.” I think the quality of a creator’s content and the audience/relationship with said audience that they’ve already garnered provides a more padded safety net of the viewers patience. And more recently I’ve been finding more and more creators reinforcing that sentiment when offering advice, y’all now included. I hope it becomes more normalized across the board that breaks are not something to be afraid of (*as long as you’re making stuff that you believe in and not just riding trends.) Good people will wait for good videos.

28:32 that’s such a perfect way to describe it. And it makes the fact that MatPat ended his final theory by literally hanging up his jacket even more awesome. Because it’s always possible that he could put it back on again someday

I love episodes like this.

KZreadrs leaving on their own terms has always been a thing, and it's the best way to go. I guess this brings awareness that these careers are short, and it's best to take it in your own hands. I made a video a few months ago all about how creators cope when they lose their fame on their own terms vs. when the attention falls off of them, and it's pretty fascinating to see the difference.

Hey mom, There’s a new Colin and Samir ep.‼️‼️‼️

yay new CS upload

Awesome creator support video podcast it's back... I mean the Colin & Samir show

I wish I had a Colin/Samir in my life to talk to about stuff in depth :(

Thanks!

Valuable chat as always, thanks fellas! By the way if you ever wanna hear the thoughts from a small creator hit me up... I've put in the work and post more then y'alls favourite KZreadrs lol I've got some thoughts on this platform that aspiring creators might find value in.

@thelifewithnate

Ай бұрын

What an amazing channel I just found! How long have you been doing KZread for mate? Those cinematic videos are awesome.

@EvanLindy

Ай бұрын

@@thelifewithnate Glad you enjoyed them Nate! Started this channel in 2016 and started taking it more serious in 2022!

Great vid!

Adam Raguesa recently posted one of those videos, but in it he really just said he is kind of moving away from a set schedule & topics and planned on broaching the scope of his channel which I think is kinda similar to what you guys are saying

Ideal show for me to watch while taking a break from creating for lunch. Thanks guys. Not retiring.

New INTRO GRAPHIC IS SPICY!!!!!

The first person to really retire, and made his channel scaleable is the king of random, he passed away and his channel is still here supporting his family

I needed to hear this … slow down! Don’t have to go beyond the pace of trust!

Plogging is a combination of jogging with picking up litter, merging the Swedish verbs plocka upp and jogga gives the new Swedish verb plogga, from which the word plogging derives

Samir coming in with the freshest of trims

29:16 this also speaks to the “nostalgia” boom, how companies realize they can just remake or continue old entertainment properties and people will eat it up

Until next Monday then!!🎉🎉

It’s not “fake retiring” for people like the game theorists or Tom Scott. Those two are doing more of what top gear, and by extension the grand tour, did. The BBC replaced the top gear hosts, and Jeremy, James, and Richard went off to host slow production, high quality shows.

i look at it like the military: when your a low rank aka scaling, your boots in the mud working hands on. when you rank up, you become more like a manager using the troops below you to write scripts, edit, etc

10/10 Content Bro

I love that Colin and Samir disagree on points when it comes to retirement and the KZread journey! Actually refreshing …

What is retirement?! I’ve been at same “job” for 12yrs and I’m just now tapping into my creative juices 🎉let’s see what I can learn from this!! 💜you guys

@Rykiion

Ай бұрын

you seem like a cool mom

It'd be really interesting for you guys to interview the crew of the OSP (Overly Sarcastic Productions) KZread channel. Because they've chosen not to scale. They're an amazing Channel and I think that creators like them are left out out this conversations.

To Samir's jacket analogy that he got from Deep Cut or Full Time Filmmaker now, MatPat literally ends his farewell video hanging his jacket. He will pick it up again at some point, just not now. Don't ever think you're done creating

Samir calls the sections "projects". I like the idea of "seasons". I like for example "Jet Lag: The Game". They are maybe filming three seasons a year. With flying to the places and such they may take three weeks a year plus cutting the footage. There are like five months in between most seasons. And thats totally fine.

I'm really happy that I got further in this video than you two did on Tom's...

This reminds me with anthpo who said he’d finish when he finished college and that’s exactly when he finished.

Colin and Samir are throwing shade and I'm all for it 😆😆😆