Both versions sounds great, but I think I prefer the cluttered version of the break best. My adhd brain likes getting lost in the details.

@ASH-ou4cg

Жыл бұрын

😉

@worksofein6449

Жыл бұрын

@positivet7491 I can see how that would be a problem.

@PauLtus_B

Жыл бұрын

Fellow ADHD brain here: Create loads of layers. Then start cutting bits (or fade in and out) away at the points where they don't add anymore. By starting and stopping these bits you will have a lot of variety which in some way sounds more busy but still keeps the mix cleaner.

@worksofein6449

Жыл бұрын

@PauLtus_B hello! Thanks, I'll give that a go!

@SjarMenace

Жыл бұрын

I always asked myself if adhd people like drumandbass i met alot of adhders who love dnb including me

Wow the transformation you can hear by 15:40 is so so good! Great work, thank you so much for all of the knowledge you put out there. Your tutorials have been a great help -- when I've wanted to learn the fundamentals of a genre I find you've already got a tutorial for it that clears up the mystery. Your instruction clues me into new workflows and techniques to make my production better and better -- really, thank you!

The "bad" example at 0:05 is actually some hotness. Sounds like a big hippie festival drum circle. 😂

I love your videos! And, you are absolutely right, these lessons are valuable for every genre. Big thanks!

Gotta love the sound of that break. It's crisp and snappy af!

Thanks Stranjah! Definitely the best dnb production content on KZread! 👏

Dope content and tune as always! I appreciate the glue-compressor-as-clipper tip. I'm using that on my next project.

I’m learning so much from you at the minute, can’t say thank you enough. I’m looking forward to getting the og sample pack

Great vid bro once again keep up the good work

On point! thanks for the video!

Also, good to see Crystl and yourself using each others packs! 👊

finish the track! wtf, was vibing, getting lost in it! good stuff as usual stranjah! big ups

Nice one bro, really useful tips as always

Personally I like to layer breaks, chop it all up so the kicks and snares are all matched up, and then throw my own deep kick and snare sounds to add some punch, finally EQing everything to grab specific elements of each break so they all meld together into one punchy drum beat. If you just throw some breaks overtop of each other it'll just sound like noise, and if you chop them up so they all match the same rhythm it'll sound better but things will still be overlapping and competing making it sound muddy, but if you methodically chop things and eq them properly you can layer drums up so that they can all add to each other and create super energetic breaks.

@christienscott1171

Жыл бұрын

Pitch is also very important and very over looked. If everything should work but certain hits just feel off, try pitching before immediately eqing.

@Hollandvancewright

Жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with your approach, but here’s a couple tips: 1. Watch out for your phase alignment, if you have two sounds moving opposite each other they will cancel each other out. You’ll either lose volume, clarity and frequencies, or you’ll get nasty comb filtering. 2. Less is more when layering drums. With kicks, I like to find a tight thud and layer it with itself pitched up 2-4 octaves to keep it in key and phase. Snares you can go wild adding flams, claps, foley and resampled reverb. I layer different rhythms of hi hats together, but I mix them in their own space so it’s obvious there’s different lines going. Take it with a grain of salt though, I haven’t finished a song for like 5+ years (lots of projects but work, wife, keeping my shitty car alive, etc.)

Really nice Stranjah !

i tryed to proof a point about old school beats and neuro stomp shit ! you just proved my point !!!! may the force be with you

Great video! Thank you.

shits crazy dope at the end

Btw, dude, thank you so much for this tutorial as well as others! Gonna need to tighten up my sound a bit.

Your videos are awesome! Thanks :)

Awesome content man for real, so many useful insights

@portemanteau3802

Жыл бұрын

geogebra c'est toi?

@ConeMedaillon34

Жыл бұрын

@@portemanteau3802 c'est bien moi

Excellent tutorial by the way

Drum production is awesome. Only listening on phone. Will deffo come back to this

I love the picture in picture format! Happy holidays, Stranjah! Love you!

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

Bigup and wishing you well!

@blkrbbt

Жыл бұрын

Such a vibe! And there is some great knowledge in here. Big ups my man.

Another amazing tutorial, thanks you

Another beneficial looking video! 🤘

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Sounding good dude, havent messed with custom breaks in a while, feeling inspired to give it a crack again :)

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

Nice my man!

Both are great. The first one have a more old school feeling the second don't have. But the second sound cleaner. The thing is to use the right one at the best moment. I guess

the cool thing about clipping your breaks is you also get additional headroom, if you noticed the peaks on the waveform were reeally high until he clipped them, but after he clipped it the amplitudes were smaller but the volume is perceived the same, actually it sounded louder after he clipped them but they will have been peaking at a lower dB. dope vid as always!

@Strafuzz

Жыл бұрын

A lot of people sleep on clippers

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

It’s a great point. One of the benefits of clipping.

@Strafuzz

Жыл бұрын

@@STRANJAH There's a dude called Baphometrix or something. He did a 90 minute tutorial on clippers! I like the fact you can put them before a compressor/limiter, so they don't have to work so hard.

@KH_1

Жыл бұрын

Because lots of people read articles on internet said you can only use clipper and limiter in the last step when mastering, but use it to just trim the very high volume spike is ok, it doesn't distort the sound, lots of people just want to follow the rule without understand how things work.

Awesome break and incredibly insightful technical rundown as usual!!!! Thank you for sharing actually good production knowledge with your in the ocean of questionable tutorials that KZread can be! And happy holidays!

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

Much love I'm happy you found this one helpful!

I actually liked cluttered "wrong" version more , and it sounds old school like its 1992, I honestly don't think its wrong. What you suggested sounds way too new school and oversimplified.

@ilikechineseteaespeciallyj7262

Жыл бұрын

ngl first on is very Jungle, and second is very liquid.

@nycyabber7103

Жыл бұрын

The first one sounded cool, but technically, it's def super muddy. It could be cleaned up to sound very similar, but much cleaner and open.

@falk3nn

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more. 1st one has that old school vibe. 1992-1994. love it. don't care if its technically more cluttered, when jungle got clean it got a bit sterile too, imo.

@NihongoWakannai

7 ай бұрын

​@@nycyabber7103 yeah, the first one is still not amazing, but the "fix" is a completely different genre. It's like showing a trance song and being like "this is wrong" then showing a house song and saying "this is right"

@smokedoggbaby953

5 ай бұрын

​@@falk3nn🎉 some people just know

Amazing thank you!

Awesome video, I've learned so much from this vid and the 140bpm Jungle Break Choppage video - That video is the fundamentals right there, a MUST watch, just those little bits that I'm doing wrong or not doing at all(!!!) that make such a big, BIG difference. The tune in the vid sounds lush as well mate, wicked! Thanks for sharing the knowledge man. 🙏

@shitmandood

Жыл бұрын

Funny you mentioned that because I went and re-watched the Choppage video after this one.

@renegadehz9346

Жыл бұрын

@@shitmandood I re-watched it before this one hahaha!!! 👍

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

Much love, I'm happy those videos have stuck!

@renegadehz9346

Жыл бұрын

@@STRANJAH 👊

Holy shit the tune is fire bro damn!!!!

Tight 👏🏼 cheers

great post ✌

some great tips bud.

Incredible video

so aggressive on that intro, but fair enough, you got me and my shitty breaks :(

another great video!

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

Thanks again!

@cclark8088

Жыл бұрын

@@STRANJAH yw

stranjah, don’t know if you already got a video on this but i’m wondering how to make some solid breaks out of strictly one shots… thanks!

why are u looking in my soul rbo

My current WIP definitely sounds like the "before" clip, lol.

Just like that!😎

Great video, love the ideas on keeping break chops natural with the hi-hat variations. Idk if you've tried changing the "Preserve" options in the beats mode of ableton's audio warping? Try changing the two arrows to the arrow and the line symbol (looks sth like |

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

Interesting. I have played with those but have not got the results I wanted. However I will check it again upon your advice!

❤❤❤ big Iove Stranjah

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

Love going back to you!

Yeeaaah!!! Delicious!

Great video, thanks! Where do you get your breaks? Cheers!

Well, Paradox (which is master of sampling breaks imo) said to not quantize xd

Zoned out to the full track part. Lush.

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

Thanks my man

When da breaks are doodoo fard

Title is Savage 😂😂😭😭 !

i think both work. the first could use some cleanup but is still really good sounding, but the second is a totally different style, so i don't think they're all that comparable

i had never considered just layering a bunch of breaks on top of each other without chopping them at all, until this guy told me it was wrong... Also LMFAO nice tracklib ad, love it when youtubers try to slip ads into the content without any separation

I’ve been trying to understand how to arrange breaks and all this time didn’t know people were pitching them up. 😭 I wish I knew this in 2006 when I was producing a lot and trying to get music out. I cut some dubplates and played them out but now I’m ready to go back in!

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

Sick!!! Glad to hear that!

21:10 you can use max for live volume compensator for glue compressor instead of trying to match the makeup db with utility

Tuneeeeee

Really informative video Stranjah as usual! Any change u have a version of your sliver that can be used in ableton live 9?

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

Hey I don't have Live 9 but will see if there's a way

@kmotion1

Жыл бұрын

@@STRANJAH thank u mate

Control/Shift/R 👍

I learned this style of chopping with Reason 4.

Ohh. I wish I knew of track lib. Well now I know 😁

Sweet

Big up 👊

I guess I'm not the only one that actually liked both the "wrong" and "correct" versions

Nice video effect at 25:09 !!

14:37 sounds link the intro to Jonny L - sea red here. ❤

Do you do HipHop Breaks too? Like 90s Boom Bap?

breakcore!!!

hey bro what you used for those motion video clips

wow, great tune though!

Dude you're a cyborg. How do you get all this knowledge in your head?

Love it, these drums really got this Drumemachine’s newest songs vibe

I think you're mistaking "cluttered" for "full". The second mix just sounded glassy and anemic.

wish I had learned on ableton now 🤦‍♂finding it hard to transfer this to other daws that dont have the ableton stock plugins, a video with 3rd party plugins would be cool, id rather pay abit of cash to get the vst and results without trying to learn a new daw

Hey Stranjah, great tutorial! Are there any videos showing your racks like the one you use in this one? If not, do you think of making a video tutorial about these?

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

Can look into it. Thx!

not enough lows, needs a bit of reverb, too much mids, not loud enough. 6/10

crazy that in like 6-12 months there will be an AI that does all of the compression, fading, volume shaping, and so much more for you...

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

Interesting to see where music and creation are going with these tools

@benmartens2885

Жыл бұрын

@@STRANJAH Yea! Such a great video tho, and also it's like you're doing so much of this on autopilot after decades of training your ear etc, very odd to me that algorithms will be probably doing it for a lot of people. like "clean up these breaks and send them to MIDI, give me like 4 different mixes"... also I need that drum rack preset thing or i just need to save my own presets

Psyscope pro is my goto scope these days.

The comments are why I don’t worry about the fine details of my production techniques that much. Everyone saying the cluttered version is better 😂

the problem with these layered drums is always out of phase instruments like stumbling bassdrums or snares, massive dynamics probs when switching on and off, two different insturments layered on top of each ohter sounding odd - not always bad though ^^- too much mud etc etc. i admit i often use that layering method to sketch out fast the ideas. afterwards im too effin lazy to finish it or sober it up properly to my mopre minimal sort of thinking :D.

How can we get a copy of that tune?

do you sometimes layer the kick with a more "modern" kick sample to add extra low end and keep the other kick sample as a texture or is it all sampled breaks loops and hits?

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

I do, depends on the genre and feel I want.. but this kick was suffice for the vibe I wanted

@portemanteau3802

Жыл бұрын

@@STRANJAH makes sense, and when you do, do you try to match the envelopes?

did you released this track?

😍🎶🔊

HAHAH the first example sounded better

Control E 👍

I prefer the cluttered version over the sanitised over produced wet fart 'better' version

24:09 Robert Miles - Children

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

Wow, good ear!

ok but can you go past boring amen and sampling rehashing and create your own breaks and syncopations like Austrian Camo and Krooked???

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

I guess you have seen my other modern break videos 😏

Bro I can find the compression cheatsheet in the links below?

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

Ooop... Amen Compression Cheatsheet → bit.ly/3BYnf6y STRANJAH Slicing Preset → bit.ly/3doS6ji

@lockwood6793

Жыл бұрын

@@STRANJAH legend bro

Hey Stranjah thanks for the video, really nice tutorial ! I have a hs (and a noob I guess...) question there, but why do you say that the song is in F sharp minor while the vocals and the keys are Bm ? Thanks for the answer

@djmage7991

Жыл бұрын

yes I am also wondering this too.

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

I think they mislabelled the vocal from my understanding

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

think they mislabelled it, cuz f# minor made more sense

you're fuckin dope!

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

Much love!

Beneficial video here.

Good stuff. But sometimes this level of editing detracts from the “soul” of the breaks? Kinda turning a live drum track into a drum machine pattern.

@STRANJAH

Жыл бұрын

For sure. Just depends on the direction you want!

👍👍👍

type in the mierder loud ?¿

you gotta finish and release this one man

yeah too many layers is a something habit i need to stop

probably just get your breaks replace at the autoshop innit

Tell that to Squarepusher…