HR is not your friend. They are there for the benefit of the company.

@jeffreyconyers8735

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!

@jeffreyconyers8735

3 жыл бұрын

Do HR employees do exit interview?

@magicrobharv

3 жыл бұрын

You nailed it !!! HR is not your friend.

@Over50tv

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! But it depends on the organization. I see it more when a manager leaves and less when a line worker exits.

@b-genspinster7895

3 жыл бұрын

Well said, Anthony. Well said.

They didn't care what I thought when they were paying me.Why now.

@ApartmentKing66

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent point.

@captainhotbunz659

3 жыл бұрын

True that👍🏼

@CraigFactsareFacts

3 жыл бұрын

They are hoping that you won't challenge them in court. If they can ferret you out now, they can prepare a better defense.

@silverstar4289

3 жыл бұрын

Good point

@annwilliams5515

3 жыл бұрын

That's been my stance forever. I make my questions, issues, concerns known while they can work on it. After I've resigned, I no longer have a vested interest in whatever happens.

HR is not there to help. They are there to mitigate risk.

@sitdowndogbreath

3 жыл бұрын

And guess what sweet pea you are that risk they are managing that's how look at you with the security guard escorting you out the door

@JasonW.

3 жыл бұрын

@@sitdowndogbreath fpund the Karen working in HR

@scarling9367

3 жыл бұрын

@@JasonW. Definitely.

@BELCAN57

3 жыл бұрын

They work for the company!

@dampergoldenrod4156

3 жыл бұрын

@@sitdowndogbreath the toxic atmosphere and antagonism is a risk in any environment whether you work there or not

Always be on your guard when dealing with HR. The number one purpose of HR is to protect the company.

@BadMannerKorea

3 күн бұрын

Which is exactly why I report people to both HR and management. I’m a top performer and I never stay quiet when people are doing wrong. And guess what? They’ve taken action numerous times because of what I’ve said. And I almost always do exist interviews.

The funny part is that now that I'm over 50, I'm much more inclined to tell them exactly what I think.

@sitdowndogbreath

3 жыл бұрын

That's why they don't hire us we tell it like it is

@EMDSD40T2

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly...

@cherylmockotr

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, and 2020 drama only made it worse.

@jeanc819

3 жыл бұрын

I have exactly the same problem and that's why I declined doing an exit interview with my last employer of 20 plus years. Now, come retirement... well that's a different story. Probably going to be more of a "Can we talk?".

@MyGumby123

3 жыл бұрын

Amen!!

26yr male here, this advice is applicable at any age. Trust me, they don’t care about what you think needs to be changed and you absolutely do not say where you are going until after you already start the new job for a few weeks. I didn’t update my LinkedIn until a full month after transferring from my last job, you cannot trust anyone in the corporate world.

@Over50tv

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Thanks for the comment!

@VenturiLife

3 жыл бұрын

Particularly if you're going to their competition, which is often likely.

@grandetaco4416

3 жыл бұрын

You bring up a good point with linked in. "check out my linked in profile it will have all my details on what I'm doing." then don't update it.

@drew8256

3 жыл бұрын

I had a coworker who left, never said why. Then he posted on LinkedIn how happy is is to be unemployed and how toxic his las place of employment was.

@musicjunkie421

3 жыл бұрын

The heck with that, don't update LinkdIn until you're looking for another job!!

I used to be a Recruiter: he’s right. Just resign, offer to give two weeks, andthat’s it. Do not say where you’re going.

@DovidM

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I have received calls from companies that someone left telling me not to hire so and so in case they’ve applied. It is not something I would do, and I doubt that it’s legal.

@norcalbry

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t it put the company at risk if they say anything negative about a former employee? I heard HR will just agree to verify a person’s employment and that’s it.

@zedex1226

3 жыл бұрын

@@norcalbry That's what's legal. Just one of a handful of labor laws that are commonplace to violate

@CloningIsTooGoodForSheep

3 жыл бұрын

Exit interviews are a data gathering exercise for your soon to be ex employer

@clone1eighty7

3 жыл бұрын

nah i always tell them im gonna work for McDonald's MGR of the fry station 9 to 5 that usually shuts them down quickly

Lawyer Here: Unless its in your contract, no interview. I'd read the contract provision carefully. Tell them to submit the "questions" in writing. Get advice about how to respond. Chances are, the company is "ass protecting" and trying to set up defenses if you file a lawsuit for wrongful termination, harassment [breach of contract,] or other work place prohibited conduct.

@mylesid

3 жыл бұрын

Sir, Thank You, Sir! When knowledge has been brought to me I appreciate, it more than anything, especially for free!

@rustiehead

3 жыл бұрын

Great advise, thank you!

@67marlins81

3 жыл бұрын

Fred G - Thanks for that perspective.

@never2yield20

3 жыл бұрын

My forced retirement at 59 required a signature on a legal agreement that I would not challenge my termination, and unless I signed I would not get the maxed out years-of-service termination pay. I heard a few older employees decided to challenge. (probably hadn't been with the company as long as I had). But I just thought to myself, man the only people that would get any money in doing that challenge would be the lawyers. The termination numbers clearly indicated they were unloading as many higher paid employees as they could. But they had spread the distribution throughout the age range to make it look legit.

@fredc3543

3 жыл бұрын

@@never2yield20 "Golden Handcuffs" suck. Happened to a high school lawyer friend of mine. They fired him at the top of his department, later hiring 3 replacements. You probably made the correct decision, being practical about the choices offered. Lawyers are expensive and nothing is guaranteed.

This is what happens when you romanticize "work". Work is where you go to earn money hopefully politely and efficiently. It's not a place to get a life, friends, a surrogate parent, etc. No one will take care of you better than you. A company you "love" will dump you just like that when it's bottom line demands. So never marry your job because all divorces are messy!!!

@Mrch33ky

3 жыл бұрын

Pow! With the Truth Bullets!

@knelson3484

3 жыл бұрын

Well stated.👍

@never2yield20

3 жыл бұрын

My older brother once told me. "Even if I'm working for someone else, I'm always working for myself first"

@m.asquino7403

3 жыл бұрын

Their can never be loyalty to a job because they'll get rid of you in an instant. Nothing personal they'll say only buisness

@shannon2748

3 жыл бұрын

100% truth. That's why I'll never understand workaholics. Work is a means to an end. Aka a paycheck.

One nice thing about being over 50: You're old enough to remember a song that Johnny Paycheck sang in the 1970's.

@floatthecreek

3 жыл бұрын

Take this job and shove it, I ain't workin' here no more.

@jaklumen

3 жыл бұрын

I'm 46, and I remember it just fine. I remember when he made an appearance on The Dukes of Hazzard, too.

@erictaylor5462

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaklumen Well, you were 5 when that song came out, and it has been in a BUNCH of movies, so even someone who is 5 today could have heard it.

@collegeman1988

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm 🤔 What song is that?

@Milesco

3 жыл бұрын

@@collegeman1988 : Scroll up and look at Gene Bradley's comment.

Don't talk to the police... don't talk to HR... It will always end badly for you.

@kotro88

3 жыл бұрын

I'm a cop...over 50....I concur.

@Darrylizer1

3 жыл бұрын

That's funny! I was thinking the exact same thing.

@MyLongevityExperiment

3 жыл бұрын

😂true

@alisterfolson

3 жыл бұрын

Everybody wants to hear some spilt tea

@VenturiLife

3 жыл бұрын

HR = Human Remains.

Why waste your time on an exit interview? You're not on their payroll anymore.

@Over50tv

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, another good point! It’s definitely a waste of time!

@johnreed9050

3 жыл бұрын

They wanted me to do an exit interview from every job I've ever done. I told them all no. They wouldn't pay me for it and I was no longer on the payroll. They don't make changes anyway so why would it matter to me as someone who's out the door.

@jamescaley9942

3 жыл бұрын

Unless you are having a "Jerry Maguire moment" and storming out on impulse, there is usually a notice period before leaving.

@nghtwtchmn129

3 жыл бұрын

Many of the "fired" employees in the 2009 film Up in the Air were recently laid-off in real life. They were asked to either react the way they did on their last day, or else say what they WISH they had said.

@willylumpnj

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamescaley9942 Not always. I have been walked out the door several times. Nothing I did wrong, just job elimination. From big very well known companies. That's what they did to all of the employees they let go.

A short and sweet exit interview: Sorry, I enjoyed working here so much, I can't stand it any longer.

@donaldoehl7690

3 жыл бұрын

Good one!

@ThunderStruck94660

3 жыл бұрын

Ha ha ha, perfect!

@shawnbruce6934

25 күн бұрын

LOL!

You should never give an exit interview at any age.

@qdllc

3 жыл бұрын

Like they really care why you are leaving.

@MK_ULTRA420

3 жыл бұрын

This is the real answer. It's like you're back in school and you have to go to the principal's office.

@bluegrasskid4835

3 жыл бұрын

@@qdllc Most really do want to know why you are leaving but you would be smart to keep quiet.

@Sylvan_dB

3 жыл бұрын

@@bluegrasskid4835 The only reasons should be those you have carefully considered and decided to put in your resignation letter.

@skaldlouiscyphre2453

3 жыл бұрын

@@MK_ULTRA420 The only difference is you're already holding the diploma.

I never ever tell my current employer where I am going. It's none of their business

@whatsup7253

3 жыл бұрын

My last employer I never told them where I was going. I believe that may be the reason I will be looking for a new job

Never become more loyal to the company then they are to you.

@strongholds12

3 жыл бұрын

So no loyalty what so ever

@trueriver1950

3 жыл бұрын

Nicely put.

Dont tell anyone anything. Ever.

@DavidLLambertmobile

3 жыл бұрын

I left a resort security post, 🏕 campgrounds, RV, lodges summer 2020. I was not employed long but I did quit & later sent a detailed email to the corporate ethics office. I did it mainly to let them see how the security staff is really run & the serious flaws that need corrected.

@willylumpnj

3 жыл бұрын

And don't ever "burn your bridges". A few times in future interviews, I had to provide references from former supervisors.

@Random-rt5ec

3 жыл бұрын

Google knows more about each of us than we know about ourselves.

@whazzuphere

3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidLLambertmobile If you think they gave a damn...think again.

@CraigFactsareFacts

3 жыл бұрын

@@Random-rt5ec *Shhhh! We know you had a blueberry muffin for breakfast and you yanked it in the shower this morning. And that's just for starters.

My mom was an HR expert for years. When someone calls for a reference on an ex employee, most companies will only confirm that he/she worked for them. They won't say anything negative (or good) because they don't want to be sued.

@charlespratt8663

3 жыл бұрын

Thats referred to as the "tombstone" letter.

@johndubose1395

3 жыл бұрын

they dont say anything on the phone, but on the golf course.............................

@SamWesting

3 жыл бұрын

@John Milton Not necessarily. When potential employers call to check on your job history, most HR will just confirm you worked there with little to no comment. If you want a past employer to go in depth on your job performance, get a letter of reference from them.

@bones549

3 жыл бұрын

@John Milton no we have automated system that the employee has to authorize via self service request. You get a key and give to employers and the can go to website gives start stop $$ then expires

@kenthhamner2641

3 жыл бұрын

@John Milton wrong HR policy is to confirm employment. Performance references or suitability can be confirmed by having your manager willing to be a favorable reference. HR rarely knows anything about your actual work or strengths.

Because when you hit 50 you tend to be more upfront, honest and to the point. No employer really wants to hear that.

@Over50tv

3 жыл бұрын

So very true! That’s why it’s not to your benefit to give an exit interview! Avoid exit interviews.

@sitdowndogbreath

3 жыл бұрын

And watch all the employer dry up and die you have to be Innovative right now this waiting on line at Marshall's is a joke you're begging to be decimated

@Dian2Gig

3 жыл бұрын

I would tell them nothing! You are the only one that has your back.

Charge a 1000 bucks for an exit interview and if they pay - tell them how wonderful they are!

@VictorianMaid99

3 жыл бұрын

exactly

@RARenfield

3 жыл бұрын

Small potatoes. Charge what the Corporate Suite gets per hour for the interview. V.P. of retail where I last worked took home the lump sum equivalent of $36,057.69 an hour. How do they make ends meet?

@starshake8998

3 жыл бұрын

I seriously doubt the Corporate VP conducts the interview, though.

@chee5935

3 жыл бұрын

Omg....I was going to comment the exact same thing !! 🤣🤣😂

@creditczar6979

2 жыл бұрын

@@RARenfield 🤣

My Exit interview went like this: HR: You leaving? ME: Yep.

@korbindallas8224

3 жыл бұрын

Also you- You: (fart)

@Darrylizer1

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, pretty much.

@yanni2112

3 жыл бұрын

I used my supervisor's comment back at him "Things change!" I tried the day before to resolve an issue and it's what I got, sooo I used it the next day

@gregbenwell6173

3 жыл бұрын

I left a company after working for them three years of loyal service to them! I had been hired through a temp agency and worked my way into a full time position with them! When I asked for a raise the answer I got was "You could be replaced!" basically telling me "Shut up and do your job" which at that point I was doing the work of my one supervisor and two of the engineers who worked in my department, yet I was paid less then most of the people I worked with, even people who'd been there far less time then I had too!! So one morning as I got ready for work I decided "Why bother?" and normally I (seldom if ever) called in....so that morning I didn't bother calling in to ask for a day off! It was THEN I just stopped going to work!! I spent the day, all day, relaxing, and the next morning when I again did NOT go to work and didn't call in either again, the phone started ringing off the hook around 10 A.M.!!! The head of HR asked me if I was going to return to work! I told him "NO" and further explained I had "no incentive to return". He offered me a "position change" but no raise and I told him politely "Thanks but NO!" and that was the end of that call!! And hour later my former boss called begging me to come back to work and I told him I couldn't!! The job certainly wasn't worth the $5 a hour pay I was earning then the nearly 30 mile drive to get there offered me nothing as well!!

@Darrylizer1

3 жыл бұрын

@@gregbenwell6173 You'd think they would have offered you a lot more money to continue! You did the right thing for sure.

I left my former employer after 38 years. My exit interview consisted mostly of them going over the company issued equipment that I was turning in. Of course, the fact that I had maxed out my pension and that staying even a few days longer would cost me multiple six-figures, well, they knew why I was I leaving. I have to say the last year there i felt I was walking on egg shells and just wanted to survive that last year without incident. But, I made it. The stress relief was incredible.

@BryanTorok

3 жыл бұрын

@TrueKen I was actually in a program that was designed to encourage experienced people to stay on. But, the program had a limit of 8 years. If I stayed beyond that I would lose a boat load of money. And the way the system was structured, it was revenue neutral to the employer and the pension fund.

@BryanTorok

3 жыл бұрын

@TrueKen Well, while I haven't gone back to work, things haven't gone as planned and I considered it. I even sent out a few applications. You see, about the time I retired, my wife got laid off from her job due to the position being eliminated. Does that sound familiar from other Over50TV vids? I had planned to go on her Med Insurance. Instead I ending up spending $18K per year for COBRA. BUT, I won't be going back to my former employer.

@dungeonmaster6292

3 жыл бұрын

pensions don't exist for anyone under 50

@frankcorrea9702

3 жыл бұрын

P

@BryanTorok

2 жыл бұрын

@@dungeonmaster6292 There are lots of major employers who still have pensions. Mostly, those that are union jobs. Also, lots of government jobs, police/fire/ems, have pensions. Interestingly, the job I retired from had a decent (not great) pension but I was not covered by Social Security or Medicare so I don't get either of those. Well, do get Medicare, but I have to pay for it about $400/month.

When you get down to it, it's none of their business why I'm leaving, and like he says, if they had any concern at all during your employment, there wouldn't be any need for it!

After years of dealing with bad HR reps I was so happy when they shut the HR office down and now HR is online with remote reps instant karma for being useless

@HighSpeedNoDrag

3 жыл бұрын

Actually Instant Dharma which is in one's present life. Karma pertains to one's next life.

@Xanduur

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t so wish we would do this!

You should never do an exit interview. Period. The company already knows what their issues are, they just don't care.

@LeSyd1984

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't even know this was a thing... Wouldn't an exit interview just devolve into yet another "it's not you, it's me" bullshit kind of thing anyways?

As the saying goes, "Discretion is the greater part of valor."

This good advice for anyone of any age when they leave a company.

Just remember, HR is not your friend.

@Stalicone

3 жыл бұрын

Really? So the time a co-worker was being treated for cancer and used up all her PTO, and HR allowed me and other employees to donate our vacation days to her, HR was being the enemy? Ummm, yeah...I don’t agree with you. YOU are HR. It’s the employees who build the culture. The HR department is a reflection of...yourself.

@georginatoland

3 жыл бұрын

Ahem. I have worked in HR and it is absolutely your one and only friend when you suffer from an injury on the job, need some help with work/life balance, or must report illegal activities witnessed on the job.

@HighSpeedNoDrag

3 жыл бұрын

We know.

@asj-124

22 күн бұрын

@@georginatoland Ok, that's why employees who have been being sexually harassed on the job report to HR. Yeah, that really happens. Please, lady, give me a break.

Weird. My results to do the exit interview worked very much to my advantage. A few years ago when the company I worked for was about to start layoffs, I asked the director if he would put me at the top of the list, because unlike a number of my younger colleagues had home mortgages, kids, car notes, and little to no savings. I lived in an apartment, all my vehicles paid for, kids grown up and moved out and I had a nice savings. Anyhow, sure enough, a couple of weeks later, HR calls me in and lays me off, and with much confusion in his eyes, I reach over with a big smile, shook his hand and said, "Thank you so very much, this is AWESOME!". While he was still baffled at my response to getting laid off, he goes into the details and ultimately closes with a large severance. Once the formalities were done, I mentioned I happened to be working on a large project for the company, and what were they going to do now? HR guy said probably hire contractors. I mentioned I was the only one in the company that had all the certifications and licenses to work on the job, and what a pain it was going to be for him to find people with those kinds of qualifications. I then asked would the company possibly be interested in hiring me as a contractor, and he said yes, so they hired me as a contractor, and I went back to work doing exactly the same thing the next day. But ultimately, the company was doomed due to poor management and I left 6 months later for a major sweetheart job with the time my negotiations bought during that exit interview. The lesson here is to NEVER be the last rat off a sinking ship, be the first one. Sorry my story didn't really fit the narrative of the video, but that is how that exit interview went. And that director who laid me off, after he and I had taken different paths and a couple of companies later, we are still working together today.

@Over50tv

3 жыл бұрын

Wow! I loved this comment. Talk about a happy ending. Thanks for sharing!

@latsnojokelee6434

2 ай бұрын

Very true. Years and years ago, I was the first person laid off from a company that was going under. I was the only one that got two weeks severance. By the time they got to everybody else there is no money left.

Good advice. When you find yourself "suddenly incompetent," you will find it hard to stay calm, talking to people who have been tasked to get rid of you. It's just a formality on their part and a complete waste of time on your part.

@nghtwtchmn129

3 жыл бұрын

My industrial psychology class recommended sending out questionnaires to former employees some months AFTER they leave. Once they are secure in a new job, they will give you more useful feedback.

@shardlake

3 жыл бұрын

@@nghtwtchmn129 I doubt my place would want my feedback :) I left and refused an Exit interview, people were leaving in droves due to the new managements policies, I doubt they wanted to change. Covid finished the company off... Lucky escape.

@johndoogan3712

3 жыл бұрын

The exit interview is an event which requires a similar amount of preparation equal to going into a courtroom, whether they're getting rid of you on account of age, been fired or handed in your resignation. The important thing is that you must remain at all times in the driving 💺 seat controlling the interview, not the HR person facing you as you may be negotiating the best leaving package 📦 from that company and it is important to never berate the company or any of their employees, even in jest and to impress upon the interviewer the company's good will making it known that they treat their personnel right even though you know that is not the case. If you're facing a messy termination, it is important not to mention anything about lawyers. That comes afterwards. Part of their package is a good reference which is classed as a legal document in some countries and never reveal your plans apart from taking a well deserved holiday. I have actually been fired and entered a long illustrious career afterwards which I would expect pisses off the company that sent you out the door?.

@sitdowndogbreath

3 жыл бұрын

I gave one young fella. Thousand yard stare like Mr can you hear me and I kept looking at him he gave up and walked out of the interview

Ultimately, never burn your bridges, however you feel. Twice I have returned to a company I previously left, and there is every possibility you will cross paths again with a previous hiring manager elsewhere. Most importantly, leave with your head high and with a clear conscience.

@Chris-tg3qy

3 жыл бұрын

I went on to a new job that requires periodic background checks for security clearances. They have contacted former managers a few times. Although, I was laid off from my previous job, I kept a positive attitude and it definitely paid off.

@markd9130

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. There is no way burning bridges helps. I've returned to companies. Former bosses have been my employees and vice versa. Unless you are changing industries you'll probably see the same people. As much as people change jobs these days, you never know.

@wmason1961

3 жыл бұрын

I have been with the same company for 30 years. Except for the 2 times I quit. Once for 2 years and once for 3. They kept offering me more than I could say no to. I can retire in 2 years and I will burn bridges this time so I don't get sucked back in again.

@michaeltaylors2456

3 жыл бұрын

You will trade positions with your supervisors several times before it’s all over with

@frankstantonjr1153

3 жыл бұрын

I always say once you learn how to build bridges it's much easier to BURN A FEW.!

This is great advice. I also recommend, from personal experience, that if you are interviewing for a new job that you NOT say anything to the prospective employer that even remotely could be interpreted as a criticism of your prior or current employer. I learned this lesson the hard way and regret it because in retrospect I think the prospective employers may have been saying to themselves, "Would he say the same thing about us?" As a result, I didn't get the new job that should have been a slam dunk for me. Sometimes less is more and the less you say about a prior employer the better. Learn from my mistake and keep your mouth shut.

@Wookey.

3 жыл бұрын

If they don't want to take me in my full forthrightness, then I don't want to work there. I'm not into censoring what I say or being polite about companies that don't deserve it. If they don't like that, then fine. So far I've found being direct with people has stood me in good stead.

@67marlins81

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wookey. Direct is fine, but be careful it doesn't SOUND negative......best way is to practice speaking your answers out-loud, then being really honest about how those answers might sound.

@jason5265

3 жыл бұрын

Interviewing 101: never say anything negative about a former manager

I never tell anyone when I give notice..I hate long goodbyes.

@Over50tv

3 жыл бұрын

So do I.

Reminds me of the dictum I was told by a friend while I was state worker ,"If you find a problem in a bureaucracy, then you are the problem. "

@DandinXY

3 жыл бұрын

This is very true.

@sufisage7597

3 жыл бұрын

I don't understand

@latetotheparty3070

3 жыл бұрын

@@sufisage7597 it's like the expression about "shooting the messenger"

@sufisage7597

3 жыл бұрын

@@latetotheparty3070 gotcha, thanks!

@Over50tv

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting!

In my experience, HR often comes on in a very friendly manner as if they are a sympathetic friend when in reality they are there to protect the interests of the company first and foremost. Forgetting this reality can entice you to drop your guard which I happen to believe is often their true intent. I've seen it happen to coworkers who suddenly find their motivations and actions being called into question when the tables suddenly turn and end up regretting their mistake. The less said the better.

@jdsartre9520

3 жыл бұрын

"HR often comes on in a very friendly manner as if they are a sympathetic friend when in reality they are there to protect the interests of the company first and foremost" do you see that anywhere else in other parts of society?

@user-cc5od3zk4p

Ай бұрын

HR is totally useless and it’s not a real job. What skills do they really have?

Good advice, bosses and HR never act on “the truth” in a meaningful way.

I never did an exit interview for the major corporation I worked for. I had nothing good to say and I was leaving to be self employed. They didn't want me to leave, so I politely declined without any explanation.

Young folks - It's really important that you establish yourself professionally at an early age so that you don't have to be working for other people by the time you hit your fifties. Stay out of debt and invest so that when you're older you can have some peace of mind.

@Wookey.

3 жыл бұрын

I don't have to be working for other people (I don't have to be working at all). I was out of debt in my 20s. But working for an existing organisation is easier than running my own company. So yes to giving yourself options, but there is no need to specifically avoid working for other people. Just avoid doing jobs you don't like.

@mamachicken4602

3 жыл бұрын

Owning your own business is the best way to earn a living. Hopefully Biden/Harris won't destroy small business or make it impossible to start one.😕

@67marlins81

3 жыл бұрын

@@mamachicken4602 I admire your dedication, but some of us cannot stomach the risk of going out on our own, and sometimes over 50 you may not want that instability, or having to 're-invent' yourself.

@YukinagaFinn

3 жыл бұрын

I've never been in debt but have never had enough money to invest, either. Now in my early 40s with a young family and cannot get a loan. Have always worked hard but nothing to show for it. (Materially , that is. I have a lovely healthy family.)

@mamachicken4602

3 жыл бұрын

@@YukinagaFinn One thing you can do. Invest your time and energy into your kids. They are your best investment. Raise them right and it won't matter that you don't have an inheritance for them. They will get along well in the world if you raise them right.

Entire video happens in this quote, "There's no benefit to you to do an exit interview." Priceless for any age group.

I wish I had seen this 25 years ago! I left 2 straight jobs and didn't hold anything back telling them why.

HR depts use exit interviews as a box ticking exercise.

@Over50tv

3 жыл бұрын

Yep!

Sometimes bridges NEED to be burnt. In my 40 plus year employment career I have burnt two bridges. Things happen and they were as glad to see me go as I was to leave. If necessary to burn a bridge, make sure they remember the fire.

@HighSpeedNoDrag

3 жыл бұрын

Easy now pyro.

@theresa78201

3 жыл бұрын

May the bridges you burn light the path to your future.

.Nothing should be put in your personal file that you have not seen and signed by you. Exit interviews are done by HR what else do I need to say. Never tell them where you are going, do not give them a head start on a IP or non-compete.

@zmanphx

3 жыл бұрын

Dont update linked In profile right away either.

I totally agree with you, nothing good will ever come out of an exit interview for you! When they asked me (they actually told me it was required) I reluctantly agreed & then made myself very scarce for the rest of my 3 weeks notice, which was very easy as we were flat out at the time & my schedule had me out on the road before the office staff arrived & back after they had gone home! HR department didn’t realise until after I had left & still wanted it done after I was working at my new employment! I very politely told them I was very busy settling into my new role & was no longer available!

*I walked into HR for the exit interview...I took the paperwork, gave them short basic answers, and walked out in under 10 minutes.*

I quit a company about 8 years ago and they insisted on the exit interview. Scheduled it on my last day. I went to it, being the first time I've ever done an exit interview. I was given a questionnaire prior to the interview about how pay and compensation should have been improved. So I thought that was the interview. I sat down in the HR department (the largest single department at that company) and she was only asking me questions about diversity. Did I feel there was enough people of color being hired on, did I feel that there was enough people of color in management. I finally had enough of these questions and said "Look, I honestly don't care about the gender, sexual orientation or skin color of those I work with and for. I only care that the person who I report to was hired because that person was the best candidate for the job and not hired because of their skin color, sexual orientation or gender." She looked at me and said "I am glad this is your last day. We don't tolerate racists." Yep, never going back to that company. Never even shopping there again (this was their corporate office that I was working in).

@dudoklasovity2093

9 ай бұрын

that’s typical! woke freaks labeling and totally missing the point 😂😂😂

My last job was an “at will” assignment and when it abruptly ended with 2 days notice the company HR “ reminded” me 2 hours before the COB on the last day that I had not submitted my last self-evaluation ( which I had ). Knowing that my company email was soon to be disabled, I elected to ignore their request. If your exiting employer asks you where you are going, tell them something obscure like “ I’m thinking about getting a hot dog cart and finding a good corner. That will be the LAST time they ask you that question.

@rchn1315

3 жыл бұрын

@Alan Smithee Hmmm... donuts! - Homer Simpson! LOL!

@solidcatink

Жыл бұрын

haha

Good information, but you can drop "When You Are Over 50" from the title. Everything in here applies to leaving a job at the age of 30.

@Celebok

3 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking that. But then I realized, of the times that I've voluntarily left a job, I've never been asked to do an exit interview. They already knew I was moving onto other things in my career. Or back in my college days, I was going back to school. So maybe exit interviews are just more common when you're over 50? Or for employees who have been at a company for a really long time? I'm turning 50 later this year, so that's why I watched the video.

You say “I respectfully decline, thank you”.

In a similar manner, watch out for company surveys.

@shawnbruce6934

25 күн бұрын

I never did them. I wasn't going to get booted but I can't lie either. No upside to any of that.

@BadMannerKorea

3 күн бұрын

@@shawnbruce6934 Company can't improve if everyone is afraid of telling the truth. You can be scared, I'll be the one to say something.

No company is perfect. Every company has good and bad people. When I remember the past I prefer to think about the reasons why I feel gratitude, because there are always such reasons. The only feedback that I would have to give them would be about spreading situations that generate gratitude in people. Thinking is difficult, this is why people judge. I try to be the best version of myself, not allowing the dark side to go in, and that will eventually attract good people. It is better to stay close to good people and away and stay away from bad people. Good people are not those who say good things, they are those who DO good things.

@Over50tv

3 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed reading your comment. Good lessons can be taken from your words. It is wise to make an effort to stay close to good people and away from bad people . Thank you.

Great advice! Especially about the Headhunter advising that the new hire gets settled in first.

I have an exit interview when I left my company. I said a lot of polite and many direct things, and I meant every word I said. I hope everything was written in my file, because it will prove prophetic one day. I walked out feeling great, and still feel great today.

Remember word goes around in the sector you are in and HR people talk to each other, especially when they requesting a reference from your last employer. Do not trust HR with any insights or hints about your true reasons to leave, remember word spreads.

@Iron-Bridge

3 жыл бұрын

Good advice

Very few companies will even want you to give an exit interview! They do not want to hear the real truth and do not want to disturb the status quo.

@churchofpos2279

3 жыл бұрын

@mgbs- They already know what the problems are and have no plans to change.

@robertjohnson4401

3 жыл бұрын

Most companies are terrified of exit interviews. They feel they have no control over you at that point and that is threatening to them. I never had one. If I was asked, I would turn it down. It can only benefit the company. After being treated poorly, I am not interested in helping the company.

@j_freed

3 жыл бұрын

But a smart company would care. It would be foolish for a company not to know everything that you were thinking, especially if you volunteer the information ingenuously in some unguarded moment. This is all for their advantage not yours, knowledge is power.

Nothing good ever came from an exit interview - just busy body HR manager justifying their job

There was this one time I was being let go. They started off telling me that I was getting a month Severance and my benefits would be covered for almost two. As they were talking I was having this conversation with myself in my head. I kept telling myself don't say a word - you can only hurt yourself. This was hard especially when I was told that I was a good accountant but that there wasn't a spot for me. Meanwhile three weeks earlier they brought someone on for a part-time position that didn't exist before.

@Over50tv

3 жыл бұрын

Wow! Sorry to hear that. I hope you were able to bounce back better than ever!

@Rian-vk8kj

Жыл бұрын

I agree

The exit interview is just a to-do item for HR.

My last exit interview was about 30 years ago. Their first question was how much more money I will get in my next job. My response was, "I will get less money than what I was earning here." I got up and walked out, as the HR drone sat there with a stunned look on his face.

@leehelppie4544

3 жыл бұрын

that's a take this job and shove it' moment...lol

@sitdowndogbreath

3 жыл бұрын

@Lone Ranger probably living in mommy's basement just to pay the electric bill

@spikefivefivefive

3 жыл бұрын

What would make HR feel like they have a right to know what your next salary would be? Unless they were going to try and give you a raise to get you to stay.

@EMDSD40T2

3 жыл бұрын

Been there done that

@stevel9914

3 жыл бұрын

@Lone Ranger It was 30 years ago.., lol

Exit interviews are a great way to leave doors opened. You have to go into them thinking how it can benefit you; never say anything negative. Think of it as a game of wits. Also, most believe that the exit interview is only with H.R., it isn't. It starts when you give notice. When management wants to take you out to a fair well lunch, it's most often a way to lower your guard in the hopes to get information. You may also see them change their attitude towards you and appear friendlier and more approachable. They'll make comments like, "Guess you must me feeling great to finally be leaving this dump." Always answer positive towards the company and your colleagues. The battle of wits ends when you're at your new job not when you exit the building.

@kekelaward

3 жыл бұрын

"I'll let HR know that you think this great company is a dump".

@zone07

3 жыл бұрын

@@kekelaward it's important specially if you signed NDAs or NCCs. Some exit interviews want to know if you're going to the competition and how to keep from paying you owed bonuses, accumulated leave, 401K matches or other incentives. They're not really looking for your feedback to improve employee retention. They do that by providing "anonymous" company mandated training to their employees.

You can do an exit interview on only one occasion. If you win the lottery. Then you can say whatever you want!

@RemoteViewr1

3 жыл бұрын

!!!!!

@tracyalbino-daggett4032

3 жыл бұрын

Or when you retire

@glennpearson3056

3 жыл бұрын

...Many lottery winners end up broke.

@RemoteViewr1

3 жыл бұрын

@@glennpearson3056 they say. I wonder if it is in fact true

@ThunderStruck94660

3 жыл бұрын

@@glennpearson3056 I’ll take that chance:)

At my last job I got suspended for 3 days because I had my hair cut too short. I told the boss it would take longer than 3 days for it to grow back. While I was gone those 3 days, I went to the national corporate office about what happened. I went back to work after the suspension and HR presented me with a check for those 3 days. Oh, I was planning on a new multiple sclerosis treatment that was a form of chemo. That is why I had my hair buzzed.

SO glad I came across this video. Hope to be exiting my current job and I was unaware of some of these tactics. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

When I was let go from the company ,they wanted an exit interview ,,I finally learned to shut up and say two things only.."Good luck" "thank you for your support"

@Over50tv

6 күн бұрын

I can't think of a better way to leave a company. Thank you!

"Be discreet about your commercial dealings." - Book of Five Rings Tell them as little as possible. It's none of their business anyway.

They absolutely do tell prospective future employers things they shouldn't. I've heard it happen with my own ears. I never trust people who tell me things are confidential or kept private.

Thanks for the reminder. I knew this but it had slipped past my recollection and I was on the cusp of making both these mistakes.

What an excellent video. Thank you Lou. Emotion and pent up frustration often gets the best of people when they're put in that sort of situation. It's a slippery slope once you start detailing the concerns you had in a job and as others have pointed out, even if you're trying to "help" it's not going to assist in the way you'd hope.

@Over50tv

3 жыл бұрын

I am glad you enjoyed the video. I think many people, including myself, learned some of this stuff the hard way. Thank you for the comment.

3 words: “at will employment”

@curtisstewart9594

3 жыл бұрын

Ah, HR forgets they are at will employer's. You are free to leave or end your employment at any time for any reason. Or no reason. With or without notice.

@sitdowndogbreath

3 жыл бұрын

@@curtisstewart9594 they usually keep somebody in the flash pan just in case if somebody quits got into a car accident goes to jail or even win the lottery and never comes back always have somebody in the flash pan

My current fire chief stopped doing exit interviews for retiring guys after they all told him he was the biggest detriment to the Dept . . . lol

@Stalicone

3 жыл бұрын

Well, the fact that it is the Chief performing the exit interview should raise a red flag right there.

I'm SO GRATEFUL I've found this channel!!!

I really respect your courage and positivity to broadcasting this channel, to help the seniors fighting and improving their life, I am soon 50 and I am convinced that I need to build up my own business. But you know, the most painful part for me personally is to acknowledge my mistakes in my life so far, not only at my jobs and also how I manage my personal financial situation. Here is my lesson I learned: start to face myself without any excuses and find the best quality of myself, and make it to the utmost power to engine my life. Thank you for your channel!

@Over50tv

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Pang Lila! Thank you for the kind comment. I think the lessons you mention you learned are good lessons we should all follow. I encourage you to build up your own business. Another thing you may want to consider is to work with a business or career coach. Thank you for the comment.

The real issue here isn't the exit interview, it's communications skills. People judge you based on everything you say. Nothing will cement long-lasting impressions of you in others more than what you say. To succeed in your career, master your communications skills and always speak professionally and like the calm, level-headed, considerate colleague that you want everyone to know you are. Always project what you want others to think about you. If you have poor communications skills and don't have control of your emotions, then yes, there is risk in exit interviews.

@Over50tv

3 жыл бұрын

You are spot on! I couldn't agree with you more. Thanks for the comment.

HR in WA State can’t legally say more about you to a potential employer than you worked for them and the dates of employment. Otherwise, it’s a lawsuit. The same holds true in many other states.

I retired as a technician for a telecom company. I gave my supervisor 5 days notice and I was being generous. I could've gave them just one day's notice. I didn't even attend my retirement party. Too many slackers in attendance, including supervisors. When I turned in my company laptop, they asked for my password. I told them it was "I hate this job".

@richardrizzo7360

3 жыл бұрын

That's cold you didn't attend your own party 🤣😂🤣

@2-old-Forthischet

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardrizzo7360 I'm sure they had a great time commenting on how great they were in their own mind.

@happycouple2976

3 жыл бұрын

“could’ve given”

@Sylvan_dB

3 жыл бұрын

Last time I turned in a company laptop I wiped it first. It wouldn't even boot, much less ask for a password. No hardware damage, just securely wiped the disk.

@rob-fb5xs

Күн бұрын

@@Sylvan_dBwhy?

I'm retired now, but I never burned any bridges. As you said, there are no upsides. I think this advice also applies to people under 50.

@Over50tv

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, this advice applies to all workers but I also think older workers should be extra wary about participating in an exit interview. I say this because the potential fallout could impact older workers more severely than it would impact a younger person given older workers employment options grow increasingly limited over time due to ageism.

They're leaving themselves open for a lawsuit if they give you a bad reference. Most companies won't do it.

@MarionetteMuse

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! If they do, immediately contact the EEOC and get a lawyer.

Best answer: Are you willing to make me a better offer?

@michaelcap9550

3 жыл бұрын

Many say never accept a counter-offer. Those that do, do not stay long (things that made you leave are still there).

@michaelcummings6178

3 жыл бұрын

Are you willing to put up with bad management & a degenerative work envirenment

@M-hc9xm

3 жыл бұрын

It's never just about the money. Counter offers don't change the culture, lousy bosses, etc.

I totally agree. The key is that there’s zero benefit to you. HR are there to protect the company, not you.

@Over50tv

2 жыл бұрын

Fred! Yep, HR is there to protect the company. I believe the exit interview is a wasteful exercise.

Keep it simple. They’re glad to see you go. Hr does not care about you. Just say “thank you for the opportunity I wish you the best. Take care. “

@Over50tv

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

Good advice, and I've used it at all 10 full-time jobs I've resigned from. If they insist, just go in and constantly say 'Decline to state' to all questions they ask. First company I worked at laid everyone off suddenly (moving production to S.E. Asia, mgmt. consolidated in Georgia offices), and they wanted to do exit interviews - REALLY?!?!? At the second company I was 9 months out from finishing a mech engineering degree and kept applying to get one of the many engineering jobs they were always recruiting for, but was always turned down since I was still in school, even when I was two months away from graduating and even though they recruited seniors at local colleges!. I got a job with another company in a related field, resigned, and my former employer wanted to know why I was leaving - another "REALLY?!?!?' moment.

@jamesmorton7881

3 жыл бұрын

If the job is not a bargain for you and the employer, leave. Also go interview every few years to obtain leverage for negotiating for your market value. 3% per year is NOT a raise. I managed 5% year over year so that i doubled THE 4% year over year inflation number compound interest works

@ruthlessreid9172

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesmorton7881 Yeah inflation is over 3% no raise at all.

I gave an exit interview once.... They talked me into staying, huge raise, less hours, a small piece of the company and first right of refusal when/if the owner decides to sell... I still work there 8 years later.

@michaeldorego7313

3 жыл бұрын

This definitely an exception, not the rule. But congrats either way

Thank you for the insightful videos on this channel. From a younger corporate worker respectful of older ones (and I know I will be in the same spot one day!)

Really excellent advice. Thank you so much for your honest and realistic portrayal of what it's like for people over 50 in the workplace.

@Over50tv

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

I worked for a company who required an exit interview in order to get your bonus payout. I was told (by someone outside the company) that the reason they require the interview, is to get on paper that there was nothing you could come back to them on with a lawsuit. They ask specific questions about whether you were sexually harassed, discriminated against, treated unfairly, in a toxic work environment, etc. They document all that as a no, so you can't come back later saying it happened.

@Over50tv

3 жыл бұрын

I've had a few similar comments on this video. If you experienced any of the treatment you outline I'd think about getting legal advice. Either way, tread carefully.

Exit interview is not there to air grievances. Most of the time, a "I have a better offer" will suffice. Let them know it is part of your improvement and you did not see a clear path forward in advancement, and cite lack of a raise in 3 years or decline in benefits, such as health care cost being a factor. Never mention having personality problems with coworkers or a boss. The direct reason is lack of a path for advancement. If I am suddenly "Incompetent" you can state, the job was a poor fit for my skills, so I took an offer for a better fit and more opertunity to advance my career. Since making the move, I have received bonuses, 2 pay raises, and good reviews.

@cesarsanchez9697

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the days of getting hired at a place and staying there 40 years with a gold watch waiting for you at the end are gone. In order to advance you have to play some hopscotch. If you don't take other offers you seem to be valued a lot less. A friend of mine was offered better positions with other companies and would always turn them down. After being passed over a couple of times for promotions he finally left. Six months later the company courted him and offered a director position. We discussed what happened and we agreed that if he hadn't left he would still be at his old position.

@isettech

3 жыл бұрын

@@cesarsanchez9697 Very true. I have been head hunted 3 times that I accepted. 2 of the 3 were before I submitted a resume. I have turned other offers down as often I had entry level positions, and I haven't been entry level in decades.

I thoroughly enjoyed exposing my boss to HR.

Excellent info. Thanks for sharing.

I'm former HR and our corporate attorney recommended that we not offer anything other than confirm dates of employment and the position the person held - period. We couldn't say anything at all other than that including whether they quit, were fired....nothing else, not a thing... no matter what they asked, we were only allowed to state that it was corporate policy to provide only that information for any and all employment references or verifications. No exceptions.

@lorenzoboyd6889

3 жыл бұрын

I have a client that is a long-time HR consultant. What you stated is, in fact, gospel. At least in the US.

@svenhaile5946

3 жыл бұрын

Good advice! What if the job title was incorrect? Promotions don't always make it into the personal file when an HR department is overwhelmed. Can trigger an unwanted or embarrassing discussion trying to set the record straight, when instead each side intended to keep the meeting short. Happens even in multi-$BN revenue companies

No, they already know what you're saying is true, they probably agree with you, but there is just no fix. It goes in your file and its forgotten. Thats what crotchety old people are for, to have some guts to say what everyone else is thinking but is afraid to say.

Thanks for this video, very good advise I did not think of

Spot on. Just feed them platitudes and that you’re sad to leave, but circumstances have changed. NEVER trust HR. NEVER tell them or your colleagues where you’re going. No bad mouthing the company even though you’re probably bursting to say something.

@Over50tv

3 жыл бұрын

Agree 100%! Thanks for the comment!

I declined the exit interview when leaving a toxic company because i knew they would not believe what i said....AND anything i said could not have helped me,

@DovidM

3 жыл бұрын

True. They might label you as whiner or a malcontent who could not accept the blame for their own actions.

@j_freed

3 жыл бұрын

It's a rare scenario when you could say something that would actually constructively help the company and they would appreciate and respect the feedback in good faith. It's too late, if you have that kind of status and rapport with the company would've already help them in those concerns to the best of your ability.

Hell, I don't even go to candidate interviews let alone exit interviews!

Right. They really don't care about you. They will not suddenly say wow thank you for your wisdom. We will make those changes.

You are correct. I was offically reprimanded for emailing our Division Manager.

Having been a recruiter in Japan since the '80s I can say that your advice is spot-on. The emotional side of things is more of what I see than the risk of information leaks (solid points still). The never say where your going and 'I'll contact you when I'm settled for heart-to-heart is 100% correct'.

@Over50tv

3 жыл бұрын

Recruiting in Japan sounds like an interesting career. Thank you for watching!

@happycouple2976

3 жыл бұрын

“Where you’re going”

Everything you say will be used against you. This always applies.

Great video, you are 100 percent correct with your advice on this topic.

That's why a written "Arbeitszeugnis" (Letter of recommendation) is almost mandatory in Germany, everyone gets one after leaving a company.

@Over50tv

7 сағат бұрын

So the company "must" give a letter of recommendation? That is very interesting. Does that also mean an exit interview is mandatory?