In case you're wondering, this was filmed back in December 2020 and comes from a now-defunct channel. You can probably nab a Fiesta ST150 for £2,500, but you might struggle finding a Clio 182 for under £5,000!

@richardburns5925

Жыл бұрын

That's because the Clio is so rare, when did anyone actually last see one on the road? Exactly. The ST150 is cheap because they are still plentyfull and the ST180 was so much better in every way, they do hold their money, a 13 plate with 50 or 60 thou on is still 8 grand, anything 6 thou or under is cat registered, every time. Surprisingly they all seem to be reasonable or low mileage. Try finding a 59 or 60 plate Golf TDI with less than 140 thou on, if you do, get ready for the price.

@richardburns5925

10 ай бұрын

And a year on, still 8 grand for a 13 plate, now ten year old ST 👍

Owned a 2005 model from new . Still have it and now garaged and used on dry days will never part with it . Been a mechanic for over 30 years and would never buy a french chlio no matter what the performance. This has taken us all over the world and back . To me that means everything as you wont see that from any clio . Love it its fun and you can tune to more than the chlio easily . Would buy one again in a hartbeat .

@jord_2wYT

3 ай бұрын

How's the fiesta in general as far as reliability and do they have any specific failings?

@NathanFuller-sr9hl

Ай бұрын

@@jord_2wYT Had mine for about 7 months so far, and its been perfect, done long motorway journeys, had nothing major go wrong, just a couple minor bits like my seat handle for getting into the back broke but i think thats a common thing and cheap to repair yourself

GREAT SPORT ROCKET FORD & REVIEW--THANKS FOR POSTING

what a great review, very professional, baffled at the low number of subs

I’ve owned both and I agree with you. I remember the ST150 as the best steering front drive car I’ve driven. It was more fun than the quicker Clio RS (172/182 in GB for obvious reasons).

@ReplicantBattyman

4 ай бұрын

Really? I've owned both as well and felt the 182 was leagues better than the ST150 in every single way. Steering, chassis, engine, interior, styling, everything.

super high quality video! you just got a new subscriber

@camtait

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much! Got lots more videos on the horizon.

Good Vid Cam ,great cars :)

I’ve literally just bought a ST150 after owning a Clio 182 and a 200. The Renault sport’s definitely are just that bit quicker , But overall a lot more expensive for like 20-30hp more as most of the 182’s don’t even dyno at the acclaimed horsepower anyways.. Maintenance isn’t cheap on the Clio’s either Belts and dephasers setting you back near enough £700-£800 from a specialist , Ball joints made of chocolate, The 197/200 suffer from Gearbox synchro’s crunching had 2nd and 3rd done again costing in excess of £600… So far the ST 150 has been cheaper to insure, Cheaper to tax and a bit better on fuel.. Also looking through parts a lot cheaper to fix and the parts are far more common to find. Timing chain also over a belt! Again they do have some common issues but from what I’ve seen not as bad or as prone to happen compared to the Clio, I think every single owner of a clio has had to fix the above issues at some point. Overall the ST 150 is definitely the best bang for buck, And really putting £1000 into the engine bay some intake mods, Cams , Exhaust , Map etc.. Would be a very healthy contender for not much spent.

Subscribed. Have one st myself. Thing corners like on trails rails, the seats are snuggy and the engine just pulls

I went from a megane 225 to a fiesta XR4 (aussie version of st150) as my 'fun' car and I do have to agree with many of your points. Its a bit of a weird premise to a video that I haven't seen before but I agree with it. Also in comparison my current daily driver RSQ3 Performance, I still pick the XR4 everytime I get the chance because its just so much more fun although its much slower. My one which has ITB's, custom 4-2-1 manifold, Quaife diff, cams and some minor handling mods is one of the most fun cars I've ever driven. My close mates and I drive each others cars fairly often and its on par with their GC8 STI V5 and R32 GTST (yes my xr4 is slower than them even at 160 wkw). Its because they're the only 3 of the lot that have this weird unwarranted sense of speed. These things feel so violent and you feel genuine fear at times until you look at the speedo and realize you're only doing 120kph. I cant put my finger on it but the way I'd put it is, the xr4 at 100kph feels like you're going 200kph while my RSQ3 feels like you're going 100kph when its actually doing 200. The sense of drama in the xr4 is insane! Even when it was stock you can feel something similar but to a much smaller degree. Plus the N/A ITB setup takes it to a whole other level. Also to anyone thinking of doing a setup like mine on their st, either swap to a stronger gearbox (easiest swap is mtx75) or have a couple ib5s on hand at all times like me.

@TheKrystiano91

7 ай бұрын

Damn, how much torque do you put down ? That it makes you keep spare boxes around.😂

There’s a reason everyone went for the 182! The Supercharged Mini Cooper s was a better rival to the 182 than the st150. For me the only rival to the st150 was the Suzuki swift sport.

I agree, any 182 below 5k has been through the rounds.

Facelift has the 6 disc changer. CDC6006

Least it’s more reliable than a Renault and parts are cheaper as the car isn’t French

@DanielJopQ

4 ай бұрын

I had 2 of them. They were not an unreliable as people say and parts are not crazy expensive. And it's a far better hot hatchback than the Fiesta.

A good one is 5k now?

It's reliable (except for the PCV hose) but can't beat the RS performance. Even if you mod it you can only get it to the stock performance of a Clio RS unless you're willing to spend silly money on it, which is kind of pointless

Got 3 of those shitboxes. They're pretty good cars. Except for some point. Hear me out: weakness on the rodbearing shells if not maintained correctly from miles 0. Power steering liquid reservoir is directly connected to the pump it's overheating rapidly if you drive it like it was meant to be, ( the cap of the reservoir just flies off when the pressure is too high ). Handles on the seats to get on the back are just so fragile. And they are expensive if replacement is needed. ( I'm glad I removed the backseats on one of mine and added a rollcage ). And there is no oil level lights on the dashboard when it don't have enough oil in it. (Major Issue)

What I'd do is tune the car to 182... New exhaust and 4-1 bore intake manifold ;)

I wouldn’t find a 2500€ Fiesta ST if it was crashed over here

What's the fuel economy? That year looked better than the newer one. Wish we could get them in the US but Americans are pigeons and like roll over death machines (SUVs). Depending upon its curb weight 148hp is not really that bad. If it is only 2200 lbs, as it appears to be, 148hp should move it pretty well.

I am sorry but I think the Clio was a lot more characterful hatch. I remember test driving these when new and it didn't excite me whatsoever. It was also more expensive in Mexico than the Clio Sport. My Clio had automatic everything, really awesome headlights and the chassis was way more planted than the Fiesta. Maintenance wise is just the cambelt and using quality oil. There really not that hard to upkeep.

How is the turning circle on this fiesta st150? The turning circle on my st150 is probably worse than a Volvo V70. Hoping for answer, cheers mate

@camtait

2 жыл бұрын

Haha! Yes it’s dreadful. Quite possibly the worst turning circle I’ve experienced in a normal car. Glad I’m not the only one who thinks that!

@andreasstre8296

2 жыл бұрын

@@camtait it does not make sense that a small car like a fiesta has such a horrendous turning circle, that was the first thing I noticed in my st150🤣 Even shocked to this day😅

@wiciuwiciu2783

8 ай бұрын

We bought it and thought "it would park pretty easily". No way. It gat to get 3 turns while our Subaru Outback needs one. And that's 1,2m difference xS

@josephstjohn3871

Ай бұрын

😂 the turning circle caught me out within a week of buying mine, smashed my headlight

Lol.. at 2:10 or so your time reads 18:22 (182... 😮). Pure luck or intentional?

Renault clio RS is the king of this category ❤

I have but 1.4. Its super car

I went for the tdci

@wiciuwiciu2783

8 ай бұрын

Fiesta S. With only a little tuning you get the same amount of hp, and way more torque

@Scott-tz5nf

2 ай бұрын

@@wiciuwiciu2783 A little tuning is a bit of an understatement 😂

@wiciuwiciu2783

2 ай бұрын

@@Scott-tz5nf well maybe that's right :P However compared to naturally aspirated engines, amount of work is "little" :P

@Scott-tz5nf

2 ай бұрын

@@wiciuwiciu2783 that's true 👍

I love my Ford fiesta St 500 edition, I will never sell it

7:22 This! Every new BMW for instance is ruined by electronic steering and the lack of feel it has...

Over 8 secund to get there

@wiciuwiciu2783

8 ай бұрын

So something is broken 😢

sorry but disagree. Dull car. It absolutely was a warm hatch. Mine had some decent mods but being n/a it was only pushing around 160bhp. the clio 182 was much more lively and had more grunt. I think the 182 was the better looking motor and i was always a ford head. The series 1 rs turbo on the other hand..proper ford hot hatch of its day.

Omg Clio RS fanboys got really upset in the comments xDDD "How dare you say that anything is good?! Only 182!! *autistic screams*"

Had a Clio, GREAT little car. Also had a Focus, Ka and Fiesta, all handled great but also all pieces of junk, specially related to built quality. Never buying the brand again.

1000 euros is the tax to have a fiesta in Greece.They all sale the st s due to this hi tax

Of course it's better

Cams and remap, decat the stock exhaust… you really don’t need much else

"A warm hatch " 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Hard to make a comparison video if your not driving both in the video. Tbh there not even in the same class. The 182 beats a fiesta in every performance department by miles..its like comparing the fiesta to a ep3 .

@camtait

2 жыл бұрын

I'm just saying why I bought an ST150 over a 182. Not trashing the 182 either but to say they're not rivals is just wrong.

@burghs1

2 жыл бұрын

@@camtait they aren't a rival at all.. when you try race and 182 or a type r you will see why they aren't a rival. 30 bhp different and 100kg different. 182 , type r and golf gti are the same class of that era. A 182 will keep with a 2013 fiesta st turbo. A 150 doesn't stand a chance. It was a poor attempt at the time. I own a 2015 fiesta st3 and can tell you handling wise there isn't much init with the 182 having owned one as well. There is a reason why track days are full of 172 and 182 ans it isn't just the price. A 150 st has nicer seats and that's it. Lol 😆

@camtait

2 жыл бұрын

@@burghs1 there’s way more to a car than numbers which is literally the point of this video. But sure if you want a car that can theoretically beat another car at a race track then buy a 182 🤷🏻‍♂️ but yes, they are rivals.

@burghs1

2 жыл бұрын

@@camtait ford really dropped the ball with the st150. Was hardly a hot hatchback when the performance was so far off the other hot hatches that were out.a 2015 zetec s is just as quick. Performance is the point of a hothatch not just the size of the car

@samsmith8177

2 жыл бұрын

@@burghs1 a 2015 zetec s is nowhere near as quick, also you'd be paying double the price for a worse looking and worse handling car

"The 182 is the car everybody goes for"... Wodering why 🤔🤣

@Gronkhsau

Жыл бұрын

I wonder why I only see such comments from 182 drivers😂 And also, nowadays the fiesta st‘s is what everybody goes for. Nobody buys a clio sport or rs) anymore

@Twongz_does_anything

11 ай бұрын

​@@Gronkhsaucause everyones simple. The mk7 st is 10 years newer and it still has trouble keeping up with the 182 and the 197s

@Gronkhsau

11 ай бұрын

haha not even in the slightest@@Twongz_does_anything

if you can’t find a good 182 for the money clearly have a little patience and looking in the wrong places Not saying the 150’s are all that bad at all but I’d know which one I’d pick Forums and fb groups are a good start Juuuuust putting it out there for the people who are looking don’t be put off cause they’re a right good laugh and the maintenance isn’t as bad as it’s made out to be

@camtait

2 жыл бұрын

Oh don't get me wrong, the 182s are awesome. But (particularly at the time of filming this) it was always "182 or nothing". I think the Fiesta ST150 is an awesome alternative. Thanks for watching dude.

@Hello-ww5bi

2 жыл бұрын

@@camtait 🤡 my bets are you haven’t even driven a Clio sport to even compare

Don’t think KZread will let me type out everything wrong with this “comparison” clios are levels above a fiesta s150

Clio is a far superior car in terms of looks power and handling ( so every way possible )😂😂

@slinavan

Жыл бұрын

Power yes, handling is very similar and on the looks well you are just so wrong :D

@JackJardine

Жыл бұрын

@@slinavan Not wrong at all the fiesta has aged horribly in terms of looks.

@slinavan

Жыл бұрын

@@JackJardine I'm comparing the looks of the two, not how much it aged in terms of looks. You just spit that and didn't even look at the car. And if you are talking about bad aging the Clio is better at it 😀

@AndresV0182

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely superior in performance but not as reliable

@wiciuwiciu2783

8 ай бұрын

*Škoda Fabia VRS has entered the chat*