Such a nice video, thank you! I’m still exploring the stage manager feature and this is very helpful. One thing I really love about stage manager is that some iPad apps that only support portrait mode can finally be open in the landscape mode now. In the past, you have to manually rotate your iPad to use those apps. It makes it much easier when my iPad is connected to a keyboard and can’t move around.

I’m kinda surprised how people seem to be divided about their thoughts on stage manager. “No true window resizing/moving?” Did we really expect Apple to be so flexible? Also, I actually kinda like the “gridded” approach to window sizing and location, it makes it easier to manage especially for me who uses an 11” Pro. The sizes actually make sense once you try playing around with it more with different apps. My biggest gripe with it now though is how the window arrangements get completely crazy when flipping orientations (requiring me to fix the sizes and locations AGAIN), so now I just lock it to landscape since 90+% of the time I use it on my magic keyboard anyway. I do hope this is addressed in an update, perhaps give users the option to save window sizes and locations based on display orientation.

@techinrl9869

Жыл бұрын

There are two reasons why Stage Manager acts the way it does, differing from SM on the Mac. One is that Stage Manager on the iPad is finger-oriented, not mouse-oriented since even the mouse cursor simulates a finger. Apple moves apps around so some small part of every app is exposed so the finger can touch it easily. With a mouse that has pinpoint accuracy, that isn’t necessary. The moving of apps is intended to help users by keeping every app available to be touched and brought to the foreground. Many have criticized this behavior, but without knowing why Apple does this. It’s actually intended to prevent frustration of people who can’t see or touch the apps sitting behind other apps. The other thing is how apps only take up certain sizes and shapes. That is determined by iPadOS’s prior multitasking. If your app supports Split View and Slide Over, those are the shapes these apps can take. This is something Apple can’t really do anything about unless they allow apps to look extremely ugly like on Android. For instance, Luma Fusion can handle Split View but not slide over, so it’ll only show up at best half-screen. It is the apps that control the shape since developers wrote their programs assuming only Split View and Slide Over exist. On your gripe over re-orientation, moving from one to the other invokes the shift algorithm to maintain proper shapes and sizes along with ensuring parts of each app are exposed since apps may no longer be visible on the other orientation in its entirety. Moving it back to the prior orientation doesn’t remember where they were but simply re-invokes the algorithm and likely puts them in different spots. I imagine each app probably isn’t the same shape, let alone the same position after a second shift. I suppose it’s fixable, requiring Apple to save state of each app before shifting including prior shape, size, and location. I can’t think of any other way to fix that because the algorithm would be determined by all the apps’ new shapes, which would likely change per orientation (e.g. too tall, too wide, no longer on screen). Macs would have similar problems, but since the orientation of a monitor rarely, if ever, changes, it’s not likely anyone would see it.

Update: So I just tested this. Contrary to your findings in the video. If you grab a Mac and put it next to your iPad’s external display, you can use universal control to control the iPad and the external display with the Mac keyboard and mouse. Which is what I expected. You can also control the Mac with the iPad keyboard and mouse and you cannot use the iPad to control another iPad (as you did in the video). There has to be a Mac involved. I am typing this from my Mac’s keyboard on the iPad’s external display.

Hey. Great video and yes, I made it to the end 🐬 I’m still surprised about how stage manager seems to divide people. One of the best things about this feature is that it’s OPTIONAL. Apple is not forcing people to use it, it is just another tool for people to use if they wish. Personally, as an M1 iPad Pro 11 inch owner, the thing I’m most looking forward to is the extended display support. Looking forward to the iPadOS 16.2 rollout!

Really happy to see the direction they’re going. Finally heading towards real productivity/multitasking.

@slob5041

9 ай бұрын

If they could enable true multi tasking on a pro iPhone or a similar system I think it could compliment it really well

@slob5041

9 ай бұрын

Agreed with you a lot

I love Stage Manager. My M1 iPad Pro 11 has been my real estate business machine since last November. Waited years for this, and now I can use my iPad Pro as a desktop machine. Got my cake and eatin' it too. Whooo Friggiinngg Hooooo!!!!! I use a BT keyboard with an Apple Trackpad 2. Feels very natural and intuitive to use a touch device to control a touch device. Also have an Anker hub with a Samsung T7 SSD for external storage. Life is good and luvin' iPadOS. Thanks for another great video Fernando. That little one of yours is such a cutie.😍

Adding some insight on hardwired audio when using an external monitor with 16.2 public beta: Audio will work via USB DAC or on any Headphone hardwired on my USB hub or monitor. Case 1 (works) iPad>Hub>(HDMI)>Monitor >Hub>(USB3.0 or 3.5mm headphone jack)>USB DAC/Hardwired headphone Case 2 (works) iPad>Hub>(HDMI)>Monitor>Hardwired headphone Haven’t tried with a USB-C monitor but reckon it’ll work. The USB DAC I’m using is an usb-c FiiO E10K.

Ive been playing with stage manager and still haven't found it to help me as much as I wanted it to. I did get some ideas here from your vid thanks so much.

🐬 One solution to the external lack of audio problem is to use a DisplayPort connection instead of HDMI. Then the audio continues to flow out of the iPad’s own speakers.

@klarapopilkova5791

Жыл бұрын

Will it be compatible though? Almost everything now usesHDMI, Display Ports are kinda rare today.

@guycortesi

Жыл бұрын

Simon and Kiara - yes using DisplayPort is a good workaround. This is what I am currently doing with a Samsung monitor model LU28R55, which has a DisplayPort connection along with 2 HDMI connections.

@SimonHewett

Жыл бұрын

I use a USB-C dock that has DisplayPort, but a USB-C to DisplayPort cable will work just fine too directly from the iPad Pro. It only requires that your monitor supports it.

@klarapopilkova5791

Жыл бұрын

@@SimonHewett Yea thats what I was thinking. But I wasnt sure if Apple isnt like blocking the interface or something. But thats cool, thanks. Also Guy thanks for confirmation :). Though my name is Klára (but thats okay, lol)

@dplj4428

2 ай бұрын

if your monitor has HDMI input, you can use Apple adapter usbc to hdmi out with hdmi cable that is constructed to do audio over ethernet. Doesn't actually require ethernet. it's supposedly because of wiring configuration inside cable. Of course, if Apple does not disable or mangle these adaptors in 2024 update/upgrade.q Funny thing, i was told for years i was told by forum experts that my meditek chipped chromebook does not run displayport off its usbc port. Turns out they just didnt know. Good reason to keep asking because experts know a lot but not everything.

🐬 Thanks so much Fernando! Great overview of Stage Manager! Hoping for two features to come: selectable audio output and claim shell mode

Didn’t realise they had extended stage manager support to the original iPad Pro. Just checked my control centre and lo and behold. I now have stage manager! Haha. Thank you! Great video.x

I am surprisingly liking stage manager on my mac with a large screen monitor. I use it on the iPad, but mostly to make iPhone apps stay vertical in landscape mode.

@chrismichaelis7259

2 ай бұрын

The only good reason to use it on the iPad haha

I like stage manager a lot. It’s fun to use and a great new use for my Apple device.

Thank you for explaining Stage Manager. I’ve been nervous to use it. I see it takes time to get use to it.

Great review! Thank you 👍

I love stage manager, the better not take it away because of some unhappy campers

Best demo and instruction on Stage Manager I've seen yet. I may have to rethink my thoughts on Stage Manager given your great video. I'll give it a second chance, and spend more time with it. Thank you.

Thank you for making this as comprehensive as possible for something so new. I have been looking for a video to explain this feature and how it works. Also your desk setup is 🔥 I need one like this lol 🐬

I love the extended monitor support on my M1 iPad Air. I despise Stage Manager in its current incarnation. Not for what it can or cannot do, but for the fact that this is just a taste of what is to come! iPadOS 17 will undoubtedly build upon this, making it useful enough for daily work. In the meantime, I am still rocking an M1 Mac Mini connected to a 4K 27-inch monitor. The iPad comes close to replacing it with regard to my work as a writer and editor. Close, but not close enough! Ugh!😮‍💨

If you’re curious about it. Stage manager is like a super power that lets you peek at every application at once

Wow! Thanks for the mini tutorial. Stage Manager is a game changer for me.

Apple should pay you for this great video. Great info and delivery

Good job Fernando . . . All the best! (Dolphin symbol)

Stage Manger has potential for desktop metaphor replacement if executed well. It could very well replace virtual desktops and the dock on mac.

I actually use stage manager on my Mq MacBook Pro and like it a lot. I use it when I need to focus on one task at a time. It's a unique experience that I think Apple should really take time to develop.

Thank you for the great video. First time I turned Stage Manager I quickly discounted it and turned it off. After watching your video I have started using it and find it very useful. I still miss Slide Over, I keep sliding my finger hoping to bring my notes across from the right.

Great video!!! Thanks for breaking it down like a pro. Subscribed

🐬 I haven’t used this yet but I’m sure I will eventually. My iMac is just used for basic tasks that can be handled by my iPad. Since the Mac has reached the end of OS updates this might be an economical way to have a larger monitor

The Luma Fusion part got me like damn!

Excellent video. I’m using iPadOS v16.2 on iPad Pro M2 and really appreciate Stage Manager. I use it with an external 4K monitor, Anker hub and a variety of USB-C devices. My only real complaints are specific to some specific applications that do not handle Stage Manager well (e.g. Proton Mail, VNC Viewer and several others). For the most part, the majority of iPad applications work well with Stage Manager. Unfortunately, the few that do have issues are the ones I use most frequently. I expect these minor issues will be resolved in upcoming releases.

@guilhermebrumdutra7683

10 ай бұрын

Which is your usb c hub ? Could you send the exact name here?

Really hoping they change the audio output thing. I have also experienced SIGNIFICANT issues in zoom when trying to change audio output. It sent me into an endless crash loop when I tried to switch from AirPods to HomePod lol it was pretty embarrassing since I was on a client call

16.1 does same thing with Camera … once the size goes small enough that the ratio changes from “landscape” to “portrait”, then the camera view rotates 90 deg so that from the camera’s perspective, it is always landscape! 🐬

Covered everything! Thanks!

I love stage manager. I already have a MacBook but I always find myself in a position where an iPad would be perfect. might take the dive with the m1 air!

At work we have 34” monitors that have usb built in for keyboard, mouse , headset - it would be good to know if this sort of pass-thru functionality were supported before I consider shelling out on a new iPad. I’m assuming the usb camera we use would not be?! 🐬

@RabianskiT

Жыл бұрын

I’ve seen someone using a keyboard and mouse connected to the monitor directly (plus iPad). But I’m not sure if it works with all monitors etc. I guess it’s best to try it with your friend’s M series iPad or something.

Still early days for these features it seems. Patience will hopefully allow Apple to iron out the quirks. 🐬

Since u came to 9to5 the views are shrinking

🐬 Great video as always Fernando. Loving Stage Manager on my M2 11”.

Universal Control is between Mac and iPads, not between multiple iPads. You should test (even I could test this) your mac and universal control with stage manager with a second monitor.

The camera behaves in the same way in 16.1. I'm getting to grips with Stage Manager but so far I like it.

Stage manager kind of reminds me of the old Looking Glass Linux OS by Sun I saw on KZread back when I was a kid.

The camera app is also a little wonky with Stage Manager in 16.1, i.e. its window rotates through 90 deg if you resize too small.

The only missing on ipados 16 is the continuity camera. Hope apple will bring these feature to future ipad os ❤

this is a very good review/explainer of the stage manager ❤👍🏻 (i dnt find it useful 99% of the time, but it is super useful moving files between photos and file manager )

Stage manager is ok, however I would lose it just to get extended monitor on my 2020 iPad Pro

Great video however, I also have the 12.9 inch iPad and I LOVE stage manager on my external display.

using iPadOS 16.2 and clamshell mode does work if you unselect “Lock/Unlock” in Settings > Display & Brightness, which is used to “Automatically lock and unlock your iPad when you close and open the iPad cover”

Жыл бұрын

Yes that worked for me too… next wish is to unlock the iPad (while in clamshell mode) with my apple watch and support for the Apple keyboard with touchID.

Can you move files between apps by dropping ? Also can you add attachments to email by dragging from one window to another ? Like if I have Gmail and photos open in stage manager?

I’m using Stage Manager on my M1 iPad Pro. It is a little confusing, but I’m a fan. I am not using it on my M1 iMac running macOS Ventura since I like it on a smaller screen.

iPads have a bunch of different aspect ratios through all the different models. I wish that the iPad only apps would be able to switch through those aspect ratios. Othehrwise, this has changed how I feel about my iPad Pro. I knew I didn’t waste my money 😭

These windowing problems remind me of early efforts of Google situating Android apps inside ChromeOS desktop spaces.

Thanks this was helpful. 🐬🐬🐬

Awesome vid and appreciate the walkthrough. Now I have to upgrade my iPad #sigh

🐬 Thanks for the great walkthrough!

@savinayn

Жыл бұрын

🐬 Very in depth with edge cases. Thanks for the detail!

To use with lid closed go to display and brightness settings turn off lock|unlock.

@thatguitarist25

Жыл бұрын

I used to do this back three years ago with my 2018 iPad Pro! Had to rely on it for a week while my Mac was at the Genius Bar. Good times… that was a rough experience lol much better now though! Using M2 11” on this 16.2 beta

🐬 great video I wonder if the audio of the phone issue will be fixed makes me want to return my iPad when I use external monitor the speakers suck. I just want to use the iPad sound. Thanks for the video.

External monitor support is able to work without the Magic Keyboard?

M1 IPads 2021 version are on Apple’s refurbished website 128gb for $639 right now…cheaper than the M1 Air…FYI

Thank you for most exact information about external monitor support. What about cable to connect e ternal monitor? Ant better performance with thunderbolt4 cable?

It's a hodgepodge of concepts that adds a ridiculous amount of manual busywork. Tried to force myself for 10 days, hate it on iPad. Okay-ish for Mac users.

What about connecting it to a 4k TV?

@ChristopherSmithey

3 ай бұрын

Would like to know also. What equipment is used to connect the iPad Pro to two external monitors?

Regarding the camera orientation, I kinda think that the apps thinks you rotated the ipad to a landscape mode (since the window side was large, and the scale you choose was 3:4). but I believe if you change the scale to 4:3, then it would rotate back correctly. this I believe developers have to fix it when they force apps to be 4:3 (wide screen size). Note: I am using 6.1 official IOS (not beta) and facing same issue.

What monitor are you using?

Stage Manager with External Display Support is a game changer. iPad Pro desperately needs more Pro functionality. Dell, Microsoft, HP and others keep improving their 2in1 devices. Don’t sleep this off Apple!

I am not sure about the rest of you, but when I connect an external display I am not able to change the resolution. That means at 23'' monitor the size will be relatively good. With a 43'' the icons are huge. With widescreen the icons and windows are are stretched.

thanks🐬

Can you use camera now, stage manager and on iPadOS 17.5.1?

Informative

I wish they give us more customisable key options for other keyboards.

Does using stage manager on iPad turn off if you switched over to using sidecar? Just wondering, it’s so intriguing how many options or different ways there are to use these devices this day. We can use a secondary display with the iPad, or use the iPad itself as a secondary display, it’s pretty cool. And universal control allegedly does work with a secondary display according to some commenters here who tested it out

9to5Mac has become a homemade video channel

Great video, as always. I just upgraded to the Apple Magic Keyboard and still rocking the 2018 iPad Pro 12.9. Debating on upgrading to the M1 or M2 iPad for Xmas for external monitor support. Thoughts? My iPad is my main computer outside of work windows laptop. 🐬

i can finally do this now that i downloaded iPadOs 16.2 but i'm wondering, is this also possible with the ipad screen off ?

How are you connected to your 4K monitor? What cables or dongles do you need?

Can you show what would happen when you are using an external monitor and share the screen on something like Teams, Meet, etc? Will iPad let you choose which screen to share?

Thanks so much for this tutorial of how to use stage manager correctly. This is exactly what I was looking for to work with this new feature! 👍

In the future IPad Pro will become more laptop like and you will have users use main iPad Pro as the “desktop”, a iPad mini as stream deck. And a regular iPad for a external monitor. And your iPhone pro max as your main webcam.

Nice video

Apple needs to allow for the ability to play multiple videos at once for Sports junkies, news junkies, etc

Apple should have kept Stage Manager a Mac only feature. Its totally outta place on iPad.

9:23 same thing happens on 16.1 public release if you resize the camera app

does monitor support work better with an apple monitor?

Hi, congratulations for your video, it was amazing. Will separate Stage Manager function work only with cable connection or would it be possible on Air Play compatible smart monitors and television?

What is the advantage of using Luma Fusion (from the iPad) to project onto a bigger, when Luma runs natively on IOS?

Does Stage Manager allow two active programs to be placed one over another to allow all 4 open apps to be seen at once? Thanks for another great video!

Is there a software/app requirement for windows 10 laptop to use the ipad m2 external display feature?

If you shift click on another app inside the stage manager dock does it open that app next to the app you currently have open? This is the way it works on Mac OS. I would love that as an option. This makes me want to daily an iPad Pro instead of my MB pro and iPad Mini.

So using zoom on stage manager with a studio display, does zoom on the iPad use the studio display webcam ?

I tried doing this with my iPad and feel like an idiot because I realized this for beta lol well I'm excited to use it when it eventually goes public.

Ironically, I enjoy using Stage Manager on MacBook more than my iPad Pro.

Which iPad magnetic stand are you using?

What about Xoom and screen sharing in this mode

Here's the big question I have: how do the magic keyboard (and others) swipe gestures work with the shelf? I think it's a three finger swipe right or left to switch apps with those keyboards' trackpad to change apps--with stage manager, does that switch between shelf slots?

Can you use SIDECAR from your MacBook Pro M1 to extend to the iPad Pro when the iPad Pro is feeding an external monitor? i.e. can the MBP extend to a monitor connected to an iPad Pro?

Is there any chance to play audio (while it's connected to a monitor) without use of BT, plugging a hub instead?

🐬 thank you. Where can I get the wallpaper .

If you double click the 3 dot bar, it will do fullscreen. Also still no multiple audio playback come on Apple... 🐬🐬

That audio thing with secondary monitor is pain in the ass

Does Microsoft Remote Desktop work on both screens via the screen extender?

hi, can some one please tell me which iPad stand you use ?, I really like it