Fun Fact: You should NOT try to play a Betamax tape in a VHS machine, Nor a MiniDisc in an 8-Track player. Join me on my next TED talk about things NOT to do while high.

@recordsnphonographs7263

Жыл бұрын

I’m laughing my ass off

@f.g.5967

Жыл бұрын

Hey I was curiououous. Thanks for the enlightment at the cost of that fine muzak vinyl!

@RN1441

Жыл бұрын

When I was 16 a friend and I were hanging out and we decided to see what would happen if we put the magnetic media from a 3+1/2 floppy disk in to the DVD drive on a PC. The tray opened up, the magnetic plastic plus metal hub set perfectly in the middle, the drive closed, the drive struggled to do anything. When I pushed the tray open button the tray slid out but the disk was GONE! Turns out the mechanism inside for holding a CD/DVD had magnetic tension so the steel insert in the centre of the 3+1/2 disk had stuck perfectly on to the magnets.... My friend laughed uncontrollably... Took an hour to get it out with careful tweezering.

@tiredoftheliesalready

Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Betamax doesn't fit or look like it would fit in a VHS, and neither does a MiniDisc in regards to an 8-track player. Vinyl _does_ fit on a gramaphone, and the technology looks remarkably similar to those who don't know much about the differences or what to look for. Try harder next time, and come up with better examples...then it'll be funny.

@jamesslick4790

Жыл бұрын

@@tiredoftheliesalreadyI said "while high..😵‍💫So the examples are supposed to be absurd. And the channels owner thought it was funny and even "hearted" it.🤔 Plus a MiniDisk is much smaller than an 8track. You certainly CAN put a MiniDisk in an 8Track deck. You'd have to disassemble it to get your disk back.

Great video! But Lionel Richie did not deserve that pain😭

@notmanatee2445

3 күн бұрын

2 of my recently purchased vinyls are scratched but they didn't deserve that pain! 😭😭 I hope someone knows how to re clean them and bring them back to a state like they are brand new!

Thanks for the advice. I always wondered what WOULD happen if you were to play a more modern or contemporary record on an old-school gramophone (especially a wind-up one.)

And that's how breakbeat was invented

Considering that your 'gramophone' is actually a crapophone (a badly made Indian fake antique), you shouldn't even play decent 78s on it: it will chew them up as well. Also, late electric 78s, from the mid 1930s on, should not be played on any acoustic machine. Those records were made with softer shellac, designed to be played with lighter electric pickups, and did not have the fillers that would shape the needle into compliance with the record groove. Furthermore, they were recorded with much higher modulation, which can damage older reproducers. If you have a *genuine* acoustic horn gramophone, generally stick to acoustic recordings from before 1925 or so. The somewhat later 'Orthophonic', 'Viva-Tonal', and similar acoustic machines from the late '20s, were better designed for early electric records.

@recordsnphonographs7263

2 жыл бұрын

Lol I know

@nnewt8445

Жыл бұрын

What really annoys me is that most records don’t even say when they came out, so you have to look it up on Discogs. On the plus side, if a 78 specifically says the speed is 78, you know it came out *after* the LP was invented in the late 1940s, hence the need for that distinction.

@jamesslick4790

Жыл бұрын

@@nnewt8445 True. No one before 1948 called shellac 78 RPM records "78s" they were just called "records" (many were cut at 80 RPM too, so there's that!) "78s" is a "retronym", just like when people today call LPs and 45's "Vinyl" or even though SOME are actually NYLON.

@vincentpavon2350

Жыл бұрын

How can you tell its a fake?

0:50 sounds like a modern hip hop song intro, expected some voice to go “yeah” at the end

@prodgroovyCHU

Ай бұрын

Man bro chose a Motown album to do this to

You shouldn’t play ANYTHING on those old things unless they’re already screwed. I have nice rock 78s and they get a standard ceramic cartridge with a proper stylus at 4.5 grams. It’s futile to play 78s with a magnetic cartridge at 2.5 grams - they’re just too noisy; they need a bit more pressure because the grooves are gigantic compared to modern vinyl.

@recordsnphonographs7263

2 жыл бұрын

No shit lol did you watch the video ?

@pip5528

2 жыл бұрын

There are magnetic cartridges that are recommended to track heavier. AT-MONO3SP T 5g, MP-110 with a wider stylus at 3g or higher (normally up to 2g for vinyl), and others.

@Cave4590

Жыл бұрын

Playing normal period correct 78s is completely fine

@charlottewhyte9804

Жыл бұрын

agree totally

@ronb6182

Жыл бұрын

@@charlottewhyte9804 yes agree. Vinyl no the speed is too fast to play a 45 or slower and the needle is just what it is a needle. Vinyl records need a stylus and cartridge with proper tracking. 73

You could use a modern needle or stylus and retrofit it to a horn. You could also use an old timer ear phone and hook it up to the cartridge and use a horn to amplify the sound. It won't ruin you collection and you will have some volume. It's best just to play acoustical records on the old phonograph and play newer records on an old stereo. Mono records should be played on a hi fi record player and stereo records using a stereo cartridge and stylus I was also told a wired stereo cartridge can be hooked up to a mono record player. If you don't have a stereo record player. Some mono stylus can ruin a stereo record. You need to match up record to cartridge types. This is old school music reproduction. Some things should be played on the era equipment that it was made for. You can backwards a CD to an old tube amp but to play old music recordings don't play on modern equipment. My 45 don't fit in my CD player or could play if it could fit. Two different eras for music. 73

@nnewt8445

Жыл бұрын

You sure there’s not too much tracking force on a gramophone arm? Because that’s my main concern - even a dinky little Crosley player is notorious for eating the records it was designed for.

@ronb6182

Жыл бұрын

@@nnewt8445 that has nothing to do with using a modern tone arm on an old record player. Modern tone arms has much lighter tracking. It depends on the record on how much tracking is right old records can have more weight. A hifi record player arm was heavier but didn't hurt any of my old mono records. I would not play stereo records on a mono record player unless I wire a stereo cartridge and adjust the wright. A talking book tone arm was heavy but maybe because the spring was missing I remember the spring coming undone and the tone arm was too heavy and you could hear the difference (more distortion). Bottom line just use modern turn tables for modern records. Every manufacturing company claims theirs is the best do your own research and not listen to a salesman. 73

Very nice to hear what it would sound. What about putting a gramophone record into a modern record player? If you can't play modern records onto a classical phonograph, why not the other way around. Who's to say it would work. I wouldn't be too suprised.

@cowhydrodynamics

Жыл бұрын

you can do it, you just need a special needle and belt for the turntable

@pip5528

Жыл бұрын

You can and I do but ideally it should actually support 78 RPM and you should have a larger stylus for the wider grooves of old shellac records because the normal LP size would just sink to the bottom of the groove and not read it properly, making the infamous swishing noise. Whether to use a stereo cartridge or a true mono cartridge is a topic of much debate and depends on use cases such as casual listening vs. archiving and how you want to go about the latter. Stereo lets you pick the less noisy groove wall but mono has less surface noise overall because mono cartridges don't read verticality which the standard laterally cut 78 RPM records don't have anyway. Pathé records and Edison Diamond Discs are vertically cut records however.

@pip5528

Жыл бұрын

@@cowhydrodynamics Nice, we made basically the same point but I went into more detail since I figured it would help our friend here.

@wintersbattleofbands1144

Жыл бұрын

@@cowhydrodynamics Why would you need a (special) belt? Your machine either has the 78 speed or it doesn't.

I was searching for this kind of test. Thanks for share with us!

You are my hero thank you. I tried playing a new record on my antique phonograph and it kept skipping. Any way to fix this or its just won’t work to play new records on old antique turntables?

What movies have you seen has the part when they are playing vinyl on old gramophone.

I recently inherited a pretty good size collection of 78rpm records. Now, I just need to find a gramophone to play them on (but I suspect I’ll end up buying a special cartridge and stylus so that I can play them on one of my Pro-Ject turntables instead)

@tsuwaque

Жыл бұрын

Why do you need a gramophone?

Damn!!! I would've paid $1000. for that record..

@recordsnphonographs7263

2 жыл бұрын

Lol sureeeeee

@Nico-pl6sf

Жыл бұрын

Dude at least $1200 U maniac!!!!

While the music is actually in the side of the groove in modern records it is different as far as I know

@jamesslick4790

Жыл бұрын

Um YES...and NO. Early NON EDISON disk records had only a "side to side" modulation. Edison disk records ("Diamond Disk"s) used an "up and down" modulation. (Edison's cylinder records ALSO use a vertically modulated groove). "Modern" stereo (Post 1958) records used (and still do..) use BOTH! (needed for 2 channel sound..). The BIGGEST problem with playing an LP or 45 on anything designed for 78 RPM records is: 1, Obviously the SPEED is wrong for both. 2, LPs and 45's are "microgroove" records. a 78 rpm stylus is just too big and will gouge the grooves. Record players form the 1950's till the 1980's often had a "flippable" stylus carrier with one for 78's and the other for LPs/45s for this very reason.

Are there any modern shellac records you can play on your gramophone? Fortionatly you can easly get vinyl records nowadays cuz they are made again, what about shellac ones? Also, can you play a shellac record on a modern record player?

Videos are meant to be shot HORIZONTALLY!

Wind up record players are yes made for shellac 78s not modern Vinyl records.But you can play a shellac 78 record on a modern 3 or 4 speed record player

@recordsnphonographs7263

2 жыл бұрын

Your right I have my lp120 for my rare stuff

@neilmansfield8329

2 жыл бұрын

@@recordsnphonographs7263 And don’t forget modern vinyl 78 rpm records can only be played on a modern 4 or 3 speed record player

@ronb6182

Жыл бұрын

I used to play old records on my hi fi and turned down the treble to get rid of the noise. It's like I never listen to Rock and Roll. I didn't fit well with my peers but I got an appreciation for big band and early modern music. I did have some R and R favorites but my favorite genre was beautiful music and Classical music and of course Big Band music. It's funny you stick with what you grew up listening to. 73

@Musicradio77Network

Жыл бұрын

@@ronb6182 It can also play doo-wop, early rock & roll 78’s from the 1950’s on a wind phonograph or gramophone. I have a bunch of 78’s from the 1950’s and it plays good on a gramophone. I remember listening to “A Thousand Miles Away” by the Heartbeats and “A Sunday Kind Of Love” by the Harptones or “Goodnight Sweetheart Goodnight” by the Spaniels, they all sounded good on my Victor Orthophonic VV 8-4.

couldn't a finer thinner needle be used that would play on the finer 45 rpm record tracks . the 78 records had large music tracks and the old record players had large needles to play in the larger sound tracks .

Pobre vinilo de 45 RPM al ser tocado por esa púa, la debe sentir hasta lo más profundo de su ser 😟

What about the other way around; playing old records on newer record players?

good video! really informative and in depth for just 3 minutes!

@recordsnphonographs7263

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Try a cassette, can it play a cassetet, please help, I need for a party (work related)

I'm sure that Lionel Richie record was made out of styrene also. A regular vinyl record may be minutely more forgiving, but definitely don't try it at home. You basically re recorded it. That is a great demo.

It's likely the needle, though idk

Why shoot vertical video for posting on KZread? #TotalNonPro

Only a big fool would play vinyl records on a wind-up gramophone.

@recordsnphonographs7263

2 жыл бұрын

It was for educational purposes

I imagine you can probably buy a gramophone lookalike to play vinyl records though.

They aren't made of bugs but the bugs excrement it's the resen they used from the bugs excrement

Have you ever played a gramophone record on a modern record player? Does it do damage? If so, make a video about it!

@digidoridvideos3672

Жыл бұрын

No, the gramophone records grooves are wider than microgroove vinyl records and it will not damage it.

@notmanatee2445

Жыл бұрын

It will not cause damage provided you have the proper 3 mil stylus to play old gramophone 78 records on a modern turntable,and should of course play 78rpm,if you play a microgroove stylus it will sound poor and could cause damage to needle.

Is this first in the series "Obvious, Needless Lessons for Morons?"

Hello. Since this shows that modern records cannot be played on old gramophones because of the different material and revs. Is it possible to RECORD, modern songs on a Shellac 78, then play it on a grammophone? Thank you.

@recordsnphonographs7263

2 жыл бұрын

There are companies who make them but it’s 300$ per side I can’t afford that bs lol

@GCho733

2 жыл бұрын

@@recordsnphonographs7263 Expensive… but at least I know it’s possible. I’m not doing it either. Lol.

@ronb6182

Жыл бұрын

I think some fool already recorded a Led Zeppelin on a 78 format just to say he played it on a victrola. Some people have too much money. 73

Are you kidding me a Lionel Ritchie record.

@recordsnphonographs7263

Жыл бұрын

Yup lol

@Musicradio77Network

Жыл бұрын

@@recordsnphonographs7263 It’s “The Only One”, the B-side to “Love Will Conquer All”. I still have it.

That poor record !😮

You can play vinyl mate on gramophones but it has to be 78 rpm I’ve been doing it for ages absolutely fine. 45 rpm however are actually shite and shouldn’t be done on a gramophone

@digidoridvideos3672

9 ай бұрын

I played my 45 record on my homemade acoustic phonograph and it sounds fine on my turntable after that.

@digidoridvideos3672

9 ай бұрын

I used candle wax and dull the steel needle by playing an early 78 record for 6 seconds to reduce wear.

@Tmilitaria

9 ай бұрын

@@digidoridvideos3672 perhaps because is homemade…

@digidoridvideos3672

9 ай бұрын

@@Tmilitaria Yeah but it's an victor phonograph imitation so I glued the coins to my soundbox to weigh the same as an real soundbox would.

why have a high-tech cell phone, and use it to take videos in a vertical position, rendering a video slit

Dosnt skip at all lol

Why don't u care about the record, it sounds awesome :(

Some gramophones are near perfectly capable of playing modern 45 and even 33 rpm records. Refer to videos on my channel for examples.

bro what is that turntable 💀 shit looks like an actual toy

@recordsnphonographs7263

Жыл бұрын

It is

Is there a wind up record player that can play that record?

@recordsnphonographs7263

2 жыл бұрын

Nope only electric players only

@ronb6182

Жыл бұрын

This is getting deep. You could use the turntable and then use a tone arm and hook it up to the old high impedance earphone. You will have to slow the turntable down to 45 or 33 and 1/3 rpm. I don't think you will get good results using the horn. Head and earphones would work better in this experiment. It's something you might get your child interested in. We did a similar experiment using a straight pin and a milk carton on a record player. It ruined the record if it wasn't already but you did hear sound. 73

That needle is too wide for the groove of the record.

@recordsnphonographs7263

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I know if you watch the video I explain everything

@01chippe

2 жыл бұрын

@@recordsnphonographs7263 I don’t remember why I posted that comment. But I did watch the whole video, and you never commented on that, you only commented on the tracking weight of the gramophone stylus.

You can only play 78 rpm records on a gramaphone

With a real gramophone not a crapophone it is possible with bamboneedles

Can't you just modify it with a modern needle?

@recordsnphonographs7263

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not possible because it’s basically kinda like playing a cd in a cassette player there different formats

@pip5528

2 жыл бұрын

Gramophones were designed for 78 RPM shellac records exclusively so no.

@ronb6182

Жыл бұрын

I think you can l, when the Amplifier quit I could still hear the record playing from the stylus and cartridge . If there is a will there is a way. It may not be practical but it may have better results. Mods need to be done on equipment you cannot expect to just put a record on and play with the wrong needle. Even a 78 will ruin with an LP stylus. Both could be damaged . 73

@Musicradio77Network

Жыл бұрын

@@pip5528 I played the “Pinocchio” soundtrack 78 on my Victor Orthophonic and they sound pretty darn good. I played “When You Wish Upon A Star” on my windup phonograph and it sounds amazing. I also tried to play doo-wop from the 1950’s on my windup phonograph and it sounds not too bad depending how loud it is.

It's absurd to put a disc on a gramophone that's not in the right format. Start with a 78 rpm disc, then it'll work. It's not a problem of recording era. You could very well record today's music on a 78 rpm disc.

stop stop stop stop stop stop

Please for your sake get a real antique phonograph. What you have is an Indian crap-o-phone. A modern reproduction with poor quality materials and horrible quality. Get yourself something like a VV-IV or a VV-VI to start off. Perhaps a suitcase portable. Anything besides that modern piece of junk.

@recordsnphonographs7263

2 жыл бұрын

Literally look at my other videos this was for science lol

@possiblyli5510

2 жыл бұрын

@@recordsnphonographs7263 understandable. just looking out for another collector. gotta be on your toes for th best playback methods

Shame on you!!! U destroyed a very good Lionel Richie song.

Haha this is Indian made fake phonograph. It's newly made junk.

@recordsnphonographs7263

2 жыл бұрын

It sure is lol

@vinylman1973return

2 жыл бұрын

@@recordsnphonographs7263 This is my phonograph! kzread.info/dash/bejne/paeepK17mqzPaaw.html

@ronb6182

Жыл бұрын

At least someone is making new old stock it's for people who cannot afford to buy an antique record player. It doesn't matter where it's made I seen worst in the stores made from China. 73

@aces78s

4 ай бұрын

But this fake indian machines are as much as an original vintage gramophone. these fakes ruin 78s@@ronb6182