I completely lucked out last week... My wife was driving home from work, and she saw a small (14' V-Hull) boat sitting in a front yard with a sign on it, The sign said $200.00. She came straight home, picked me up, and took me to the boat. I talked to the guy, he was selling the boat, along with the trailer, a small trolling motor, and cheap depth finder. All of it for $200.00 so before he could change his mind, I paid him, and raced home to get my jeep, to pick up my new boat. I could take it out right now, but I plan on putting some seats, a floor, some storage compartments, lights, etc... but it is water worthy as she sits. Some times the stars align just right, and you find that perfect aluminum boat by pure luck.

@WayneTheBoatGuy

9 ай бұрын

That's a great score!!

@oznabrag

3 ай бұрын

Ha! Boats come and go, buddy, but never let go of your wife. DEFINITELY a keeper!😄

@COWBAYOUBADASS

3 ай бұрын

Nobody cares about 14' boats. This is about 10' and 12' boats. Come back when you find one of those for $200 otherwise stfu.

@DonKin-om7yr

2 ай бұрын

You stole that boat and gear !!

@matthewharr6372

Ай бұрын

I snagged a 14 ft flat bottom and trolling motor for 300 last weekend. I'm on the hunt for a trailer now.

In the 30s, my grandfather was a metallurgical engineer. He was developing inert gas aluminum welding. One of the first large welded objects ever made was a small fishing boat he made for his own use. It lasted well into the 80s. His welding techniques and equipment contributed significantly to the art, even to the present day.

@lelanburns6182

7 күн бұрын

@@michaelf7093 I would love to have meet him,we could have talked far a while on that subject.

Time to go through your old popular mechanic magazines and find the plans for that 10 foot WOODEN John boat. !

I’ve got a tracker 1032 that I bought 10 years ago. I paid $800 for it new in NH. I used to fish off a 13’ angler kayak, but fighting the wind became unbearable, hence the Jon boat purchase. I could load and unload by myself from the bed of my truck and fish all the same places my kayak could go. Love my Jon boat!

When I was around 12/13 years old in the early 90’s in Florida my parents wouldn’t buy me the things I really wanted. Fishing lures, rods, reels so I went out and made my own money. I was mowing and empty overgrown lot for a guy and found a 10’ jonboat. Ask the guy about it and he told if I take it he’ll give me an extra 20 bucks. And this was the beginning of my love of bass fishing. There were around 8 ponds/ small lakes in my neighborhood and I fished every single one of them.

@WayneTheBoatGuy

Жыл бұрын

That’s cool!

@whereswaldo5740

Жыл бұрын

Great story!

@comfortablynumb9342

Жыл бұрын

I love it!

@russellkasprzyk4934

Жыл бұрын

Nice!!

@murphmurph2124

Жыл бұрын

I bet you were thrilled 😁😄

It reminds me of when soda bottles switched from glass over to plastic.

@likeablecloud2454

Жыл бұрын

Plastic boats aren't that bad. I've been in a few they are pretty good. But nothing beats a good aluminum boat.

@user-cw5cz5vr5i

14 күн бұрын

@@likeablecloud2454 prefer diamond encrusted titanium personally ,wears better...😉

Just bought a weldbilt 1448 jon for $2650 and $1900 for the trailer. Put on a 25hp yamaha and its perfect. Will keep this boat the rest of my life

Wayne I am a retired VP of A major boat company. The boats you are showing at the start of this video are not Jon boats . They are V bottom aluminum utility boats. There is a difference between a Jon boat and A V bottom aluminum boat. We actually had a separate plant where we built just Jon boats and the V bottoms where made with our regular aluminum and glass boats. You should do a video on the new thing that is happening. People are taking those older aluminum small boats and turning them into boats built with decks and hatched compartments like a Bass boats and fly fishing rigs with a nice casting deck. Boats have gotten so expensive that the average guy has gotten creative. There are companies now that sell products exclusively for doing exactly this.

@jacka55six60

Жыл бұрын

Yup. Made me want to dismiss anything he had to say after that...

@ColoradoStreaming

Жыл бұрын

The Tiny Boat Nation builds are awesome. Its crazy what people are doing to those old boats.

@bartfoster1311

Жыл бұрын

The popularity and availability of kayaks is really booming now too

@rickarmstrong4704

3 ай бұрын

in Canada if it really is that anymore! We just call all those kind of boats tinners or that is all I know them as !

@rmiller334

3 ай бұрын

@@jacka55six60and I have

They're sticking it to us. 75000 for a pickup. Greed will be the end of us

@kf1416

Жыл бұрын

i tinted a 92k jeep wrangler the other day lol

@leveen2836

Ай бұрын

Ford has lost 4.7 billion on EV’s. GM has lost 1.7 billion on EV’s. The government is pushing them to make EV’s regardless of their shortcomings in range of operation in really hot or cold weather. The charging infrastructure isn’t there. And the mining of the resources needed for the batteries is extremely hazardous to the environment as well as the disposal of depleted batteries. But all of that and the others negative ramifications of EV’s doesn’t matter. Full steam ahead. The manufacturers have to try to make up some of the lost revenue on combustion engine vehicle sales. So if you want to find someone to blame look at Washington DC

@Davidhillborn

Ай бұрын

Greed and regulations.

I just bought a 2005 Lowe 1032. After watching ur video, I can surely say that I will definitely never get rid of it!

I'm a welder and sheet metal fabricator, want a boat hit me up. Shipping, state inspection, and tagging will be your responsibility tho. Unless the market is worth the time. Side note, I built my own 10' because I was to cheap to but one. Front and rear seats are fully encapsulated and center folds up for jackets and tackle boxes. Hell, the local game warden loves the damn thing

@mikeburrill779

Жыл бұрын

I like to see a picture of that

@jacobs1563

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeburrill779 looked in my phone but can't find the pictures. It's actually at the game warden and her husband's property right now. I use it on their property more than anywhere else. I'll see if I don't have pics some place else.

@lancevinet1868

Жыл бұрын

Would love a pic

Make small aluminum boats great again.

@jacka55six60

Жыл бұрын

That's Rich...

@CaptRich-bi3gp

Жыл бұрын

@@jacka55six60 I see what you did there...

@ChrispaulPeters-pu9dr

3 ай бұрын

And pickups

@hotchihuahua1546

2 ай бұрын

The replies are the icing on the cake with the original post ! 😂

@lelanburns6182

7 күн бұрын

@@CaptRich-bi3gp I have a Alweld from Ark. 14 ft John boat. It is damn good boat.Saved my ass a few times in bad weather and locations. Check them out.

The popularity of plastic kayaks over the last decade and a younger generation of boaters has probably had allot to do with the creation and sales of cheap plastic boats, we the older generation will deep dive into the reasoning behind what's happening but I think that the answer is much simpler and that is that all the younger generation knows of is plastic kayaks and plastic boats

@thereader7776

Жыл бұрын

I agree they are everywhere which in turn is great advertisement

@eddienylund6736

Жыл бұрын

Yea, and the cost of aluminum has skyrocketed

@primate2744

Жыл бұрын

@@eddienylund6736 Even with that being said, I was at Ass Pro the other day and noticed that their aluminum bass boats, boat motor trailer are WAY cheaper than the fiberglass ones. Their "Pro Skiff 17" was just a tick under $30k! That same boat, minus the revamped front casting deck was around $10k less just a few years ago.

@gman4480

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you but I'd say that this has been going on for far more than a decade probably for over 25 yrs now plastic kayaks have become super popular, you throw them over the top of the car and take them anywhere. In my opinion most of the younger generations (with an S at the end) would most likely see a metal boat as an antique or an antique idea, these kayaks are everywhere and self advertise given their popularity

@primate2744

Жыл бұрын

@@gman4480 maybe they do want a nice, metal Jon boat, but can't afford the steep pricing these days. I used to see used ones for sale all the time, cheap.

The best thing about the small aluminum boats is that you can customize them for your style of fishing and it gives the boat character

Itll be hard to buy any boat pretty soon.

@joshcantrell8397

Жыл бұрын

@ronald8792 you better claim your prize man before I do!!

@ronald8792

Жыл бұрын

@@joshcantrell8397 Claim it, because I wont.

@Lomhow

Жыл бұрын

Seadoo jetskii engines had a shortage thanks to the war in Europe. Globalization smh

@ronald8792

Жыл бұрын

@@Lomhow We will not be a nation that consumes like a plague of locust after the dust settles.

I think people have to get back to making things for themselves. It used to be that most small boats were home built, lots of plywood punt plans on the internet. The problem was that the price for small Jon boats ( not vee hulls) got too cheap so people bought them instead of making them. You can build a plywood Jon boat or a punt for a few hundred dollars and a weekend or two work, great father and son/daughter project!

@GilmerJohn

2 ай бұрын

Really? When was that. I KNOW it was more than 50 years ago.

@waynemanning3262

2 ай бұрын

@@GilmerJohn Look online, quite a few plans and sites for small plywood punts, very suitable for fishing still waters

@justdoingitjim7095

Ай бұрын

I did that very thing and built a 12 foot long, by 3 foot wide fishing skiff from scratch (no plans). I got it registered and titled and put a trolling motor on it. Now five years later I'm noticing some wood rot and the fiberglass matting is getting holes. It's been fun, but I just purchased a used 14 foot modified v-hull aluminum boat for the same cost of materials for my plywood fishing skiff. This is a 1969 Proline with no leaks, still solid (kind of heavy) and the only wood on it was the plywood tops of the 4 seats. They looked original, but worn so I replaced them with solid yellow pine. Still, not bad considering it's 55 years old. So, 55 years versus 5 years...homemade may be soul satisfying, but it's not really economically efficient.

@waynemanning3262

Ай бұрын

@@justdoingitjim7095 wood is more maintenance for sure but with the proper sealers available now rot can be almost eliminated. Fiberglass has caused the death of more wood boats than anything else! I built and repaired fiberglass boats and if it’s not done right with the proper materials it can cause more problems than they ever cured. A good old aluminum boat if not abused will outlast most of us but people can ruin just about anything!

Trying to find 12' aluminum boats is no problem. Finding a 12' aluminum boat with a title is an entirely different issue.

@codyrivenburgh6007

Жыл бұрын

In my state a 12 foot boat or smaller doesn't need a title...

@miitoob8278

Жыл бұрын

@@codyrivenburgh6007 In Texas, it you put a trolling motor on a piece of driftwood, you need a title.

@bumpysmile

Жыл бұрын

None of them come with a title when buying new, you have to apply same o same

@umpatas5468

Жыл бұрын

In ohio you can get 10' to 12' all day long new. No title needed. 14' + needs title. But the certificate of origin works fine. I don't know what he's talking about.

@kavonbor

Жыл бұрын

@@miitoob8278 lol, same thing here in North Carolina

I remember being out in the middle of the Rappahannock River in my 12ft. jon boat, when suddenly, from some grey clouds, I saw a lightning strike nearby, and I realized I was an aluminum "lightning rod" a mile from shore! I needed to either jump overboard in 60 foot of water, or get moving! That was the longest ride of my life! I rolled right up onto the beach and ran for the trees!

@lelanburns6182

2 ай бұрын

Done that many times on Toledo Bend lake.not by choice. Let the storm go by and get back to the fish! It's that time of year right now. Go fish!!

@HughButler-lb6zs

25 күн бұрын

The trees were lighting rods.

@saludanite

25 күн бұрын

@@HughButler-lb6zs Yeah, but there were LOTS of them!

@HughButler-lb6zs

24 күн бұрын

@saludanite was fishing a cove on Toledo Bend many years ago A storm came up but I didn't notice it until it was right on me. Pulled out of the cove into big water and the wind started blowing and it was hailing. Couldn't turn around for fear of capsizing. Got back to camp.and my tent was gone A tornado picked it up and dropped it about 200 yards in the woods. The contents were pretty scrambled but the tent was not damaged.

@lelanburns6182

7 күн бұрын

@@saludanite imagine that same experience and not able to swim.thats what I have to do, to fish Toledo and no body will go with me,now I'm 68 and need them to.

I have a neighbor couple, retired for years now but as long as I can remember (30+ years) they've had their aluminum flat bottom with an outboard. It still looks new even though they take it out & fish together every year. They're sweet. I've wanted one for a while but have lost hope.

I’m a kayak guy for sure and plan on buying another for this coming summer. I fish from it and explore the local areas a ton. It’s easy to load/unload and costs nothing after the upfront price. That said, I’d love to add a 12-16’ aluminum boat in the next year or two for when I want to take the wife, friends, or other family members out to one of the local lakes.

@northamericanproductions

Жыл бұрын

I bought a 16ft aluminum jon boat for the same reason as you. I considered a kayak powered by a small 2.5hp gas outboard, but taking people and my dog with me outweighed the kayak in my decision and I don’t regret it. My 16ft Lowe allows me to spread out and move around on it and my dog now loves his boat. My only suggestion is don’t buy smaller than a 16ft because of stability purposes.

You're a good man, informative but I really appreciate your attitude most.

@WayneTheBoatGuy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks - I appreciate that!

I just got a sale flyer from Bass Pro Shops/Cabelas that had 2024 model, 10, 12 and 14 foot Grizzly all welded, aluminum flat bottom jon boats. The 1236 was $1470.00 after freight charges. That's outrageous compared to pre-pandemic prices, but at least there are definitely small aluminum jons being manufactured and made available. I'd definitely pay it before I went plastic... but that's just me.

hi Wayne Wayne here i have been looking for a 12ft jon boat and i wanted an old aluminum one to leave to my boys and your absolutely right you cannot find a new aluminum boat anywhere

Just bought a new 12 ft Tracker Jon for $1300 from the dealer attached to my local BPS. There were 3 other 12 ft boats just like it in the stack below, right next to a stack of 5 10 footers. No shortage here.

I was looking into buying a small aluminum boat just in the past year. I wasn’t told they weren’t making them anymore. I would just have to order it and wait like everyone else. No, they’re not running off stock inventory, but they’ll still make them.

@WayneTheBoatGuy

Жыл бұрын

From the comments on this video, it seems like some companies may still make them (or do so again) while some others might not.

Small aluminum boat dealer here.. the waters around me only allow 12-14 ft aluminum boats here. Duranautic still manufactures 10-14 ft Jon boats but the price is $1,000 over the price they were in even September of 2021. I’m seeing many manufacturers shut down as well. Smokercraft does still make 12 ft semi v’s though! We were alumacraft and grummans largest quantity dealer for multiple years in the 90’s.

@CtrlAltRetreat

Жыл бұрын

Where are you based out of? and $1000 over a $1000 boat? they doubled in price in a year and 4 months?

@newmoon54

Жыл бұрын

I get your thoughts here, BUT It's baloney to stop making an introductory jon boat for the many thousands of new families that don't have $4K, $5K NOT to mention the motor which will absolutely cost them, (or ~sink them~!) $5K, not to mention rigging, and the needed gear!!!! I live in the south, and I'm a 35 year Johnson & Evinrude service tech., and down here we have tons of lakes, ponds, and rivers that an 8 footer with a 2 or 3 h.p. small egg beater will marry up with perfectly!!!! And so Wayne here is afraid to speak up against these manufacturers, and call a spade a spade!!! Simply put, they're forcing the public into buying the bigger jon boats,, and that stinx .................. like a week old bucket 'o bait!!!!

@Kana0211

11 ай бұрын

​@@newmoon54would you still recommend a boat that came with a johnson/ evinrude? Are parts still avalible as much as a yamaha or mercury? I'm looking at 20ft boats and most I'm interested in have 90s Johnson evinrudes. 150 - 200hp.

5:58 "And I still thinks that" 😝 haha awesome! I like this guy and the fact that he didn't edit that out. We all get a little tongue-tied from time to time.. About time to get some lines in the water.!

Plastic has a shelf life when it comes to us rays

@jeffreystorer4966

Жыл бұрын

I have a polycraft tuff tender 3m plastic in Australia ,it's 2o yrs old been in sun and daily service since 2oo6 had no maintenance bar new bungs,on its 3rd Yamaha all new ,we still have aluminium dingys but not many under 14 ft

@1101agaoj

Жыл бұрын

It's almost like manufacturers have planned for consumers to come back into the market once what they have depended on starts to fail. How many cell phones have you owned...? See how they got you buying and replacing or "upgrading"..

@piterpraker3399

Жыл бұрын

@@1101agaoj Exactly right, engineered obsolescence. Because you're not allowed to truly own anything of high quality anymore.

Make them out if Graphene!!! Hell yeah!!!

Interesting take! That is a good observation people may be leaning towards small plastic boats and kayaks and even paddle boards these days. I live in a pretty rural town on the west coast of BC Canada and by far the most common boats i still see out here is the classic sears 12’ tinner theyre unmistakable. The dirt road boat ramps are still littered with them chained to trees on the side of the road. I personally know 2 people that have had one in the family for decades. Maybe thats part of the lack of demand is that they last too long haha! Or maybe all the hipsters are just buying plastic boats! I was fortunate enough to be able to purchase a brand new 16’ alumacraft last spring. I cant say enough good things about that boat. Its got about 300hrs on it already many of which in the ocean under less than ideal conditions and she has landed some big fish! I still love the ole 12’ sears and my 10’ flat bottom smoker craft that i throw in the back of my truck for lakes with no boat ramp

@WayneTheBoatGuy

Жыл бұрын

16 ft is a great size!

Went through this recently, was looking for a little run about for the kids to take out on their own this Summer. Couldn't find one, used ones either didn't have a title or were scrap metal. Ended up buying a BRIS.

I just bought a used 05 Lowe 1032 for $300. After seeing yr video, I’m going to cherish it and never get rid of it!

Built them for a few years here at tracker … cost will have to go down quite a bit before we or anyone else picks them back up. Your video nailed the issue. We use to build 52 10-12ft Jon boats a day now that line is totally gone and is building bigger grizzly boats

@WayneTheBoatGuy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting!

@newmoon54

Жыл бұрын

Bullsquat!!! There's always been,, and always will be a good market for 8, 10, and 12 ft aluminum boats!!!! FACT!!!! DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW MANY YOUNG FAMILIES ARE WANTING AN AFFORDABLE ENTRY-LEVEL BOAT??????? GEEZZZ LOUEEZZE!!! THIS IS A PLOY ON THE PART OF THESE COMPANIES TO STRONG-ARM FOLKS INTO SPENDING $3k, $4K, AND OVER $5K FOR THE BOAT ALONE,, LET ALONE,, THE $4/$5k FOR THE OUTBOARD MOTOR, AND THE RIGGING,, AND THE REST OF THE GEAR AS WELL?!?!?!?! I'M A 35 YEAR JOHNSON & EVINRUDE TECHNICIAN, AND I KNOW MANY, MANY PEOPLE WHO USE 8, AND 10 FT JON BOATS TO FISH THE SMALL LAKES, PONDS, AND SMALLER RIVERS/CREEKS!!! LIKE BIDEN SHUTTING DOWN THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE,, HE DID IT TO GET GAS PRICES TO HURT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC!!! HE SUCCEEDED!!!!!

@alexmydosh8816

Жыл бұрын

@ToddBudd88 Are they still making the grizzly 1448s? I don't see them advertised anymore

@d-arts7139

10 ай бұрын

@@alexmydosh8816 i was told by tracker that they stopped making then around 2020. thats what i wanted. im going to buy a boat from 1980 tomorrow. all welded kinda v-bottom. v in front and down the front sides, 22" sides, but pretty flat for the first couple benches from the rear. its in really good shape and probably will fit what i want to do pretty well.

Plenty of the around if you aint worried about some fancy name on the side. Come down to the delta of AR or down in LA there are small shop guys building small boats and most of them are better quality than the mass produced stuff. Just find where the duck hunters and crawfishing guys are locally having their boats built. You gonna have to put the catalogs and internet down and do it the old way.

@shirleykubica2606

Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah this dude must be a Yankee

@Alcisco504

11 ай бұрын

Facts from Plaquemines Parish

@davidkermes376

3 ай бұрын

most of us wouldn't know how to find these small shop boat builders. we're conditioned to look through catalogs or do our shopping online. bummer, isn't it?

Thanks, Wayne.

Thank you for the information.

I'm guilty of neglecting my 10' alumacraft. I purchased an inflatable kayak and set it up for fishing. It's just so much easier to deal with.

@WayneTheBoatGuy

Жыл бұрын

That seems to be quite common these days

@jjm2948

Жыл бұрын

Who really cares

@BennysThoughts

Жыл бұрын

@@jjm2948 The people who are considering buying a small boat, probably.

@sail4free1

Жыл бұрын

@@jjm2948 -- Let me guess . . . single?

I just faced the same problems you described The advertised prices were just too high for the quality. The few used ones were over priced and usually thoroughly bashed. So I chose to build a 4x 12 x 16 inch deep jon boat for less than $500 Including 2 gallons of epoxy resin to completely seal all of the wood, Add a little fiber glass at the joins if you wish. Finish it out with exterior latex paint. Ive' used latex for many years with great results. You will have a more stable boat due to the additional weight, and the satisfaction of building it yourself. Jon boats are almost boxes and are simple to build. You can dress it out as much as you like once the basic boat is built. Plus, you don't need flotation foam to keep it from sinking. UV will eventually damage the plastic boats and make them brittle. Iv'e seen them puncture due to an inadvertent bump.

@BlackWarriorLures

Жыл бұрын

Yup, building is a better and better choice, especially since lumber prices are coming down.

@kwatt-engineer796

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackWarriorLures I'm in the final stages of construction now, wiring trolling motor, bilge pump and ,navlights plus deck hardware, cleats, etc. One unplanned benefit of the higher free board is that seats are higher above the deck making the seating position more comfortable. Overall, I'm pleased with the build vs buy choice.

@newmoon54

Жыл бұрын

REFUSING TO BUILD THE SMALLER LINE(S) OF JON BOATS IS SIMPLY A PLOY TO STRONG-ARM THE PUBLIC INTO SPENDING MORE CASH ON THE BIGGER BOATS! WAYNE ISN'T GUTSY ENOUGH TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT THESE BOAT MANUFACTURERS!!! THE PROOF IS OBVIOUS! THEY'VE MADE THE SMALLER 10 FT.AND 12 FT. LINE FOR YEARS AND YEARS!!! WHY??? BECAUSE THERE IS A VIABLE MARKET FOR THEM!!! WHICH WAYNE HIMSELF ADMITTED TO,, AND MANY NEWBIE BOATERS WANT A SMALLER BOAT, PARTLY BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO SPEND $10k OR MORE, ON SOMETHING THAT THEY FEAR MAY BE A BIG MISTAKE! ONLY TO LOSE A THIRD OF THE MONEY SPENT WHEN THEY GO TO SELL IT!!! THESE COMPANIES COULD SIMPLY RAISE THE PRICES OF THE SMALLER LINE OF BOATS, ~MODESTLY~, TO REFLECT THE INCREASE IN ALUMINUM SHEETING, INSTEAD OF DISCONTINUING PRODUCTION!!! IN MY OPINION, IT'S SIMPLY BAD BUSINESS TO PREVENT THE BUYING PUBLIC FROM HAVING A CHOICE OF BOAT(S) TO PURCHASE!!!

@norml.hugh-mann

11 ай бұрын

You will regret using latex It's not used in watercraft applications for very good reasonz

@kwatt-engineer796

11 ай бұрын

Iv'e been using it for over 15 years with excellent results. Never below the waterline for obvious reasons It can't be applied directly to aluminum though. You will need a base coat with some kind of solvent paint for adhesion. It doesn't peel fade or crack. Is easy to touch up. The match is always invisible. I just finished building two Jon boats & put it on both of them. The same as I have for several other small boats over the years. The first time was on a small $200.00 boat just as an experiment & have been using it ever since.

I love my kayak, the work I put into it. First i put a bro craft mount, fit it with a 30 minkota run by a lithium batteries, 7 inch Garmin with control panel under water lights, bow and stern lights. Best part, no need for a trailer. It is amazing, I’m able to fish where boats can’t go and let me tell you! The big bass, no joke Hugh! Financial independence, I see so many boat problems. Sure boats have the luxury of space, but the maintenance cost on a boat is nuts!

I still have my old Grumman 14' modified Jon since 1988! She's logged many adventures from deep in Canadian lakes to 200' feet plus lakes in PA to Lake Okeechobee FLA she will be with me till the end! Same boat old boat with original a Mercury 20 HP !

I bought a 4' x 2' .063 thick aluminum panel last week and it was $77. Right now aluminum futures are dropping but still higher than in 2020. Good thing I already have my old Alumacraft. I am customizing it to be a bass boat but for saltwater. It has lots more storage, rod locker, custom aluminum bait well and cooler, etc.. Even with the price of aluminum it is still going to be cheaper than a new aluminum boat. Plus, it's a lot of fun to build it myself.

@WayneTheBoatGuy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

@norml.hugh-mann

11 ай бұрын

Why would anyone need a bass boat for saltwater ? Bass cant live in saltwater

@CheapJeep800

11 ай бұрын

​@norml.hugh-mann because everyone knows the only fish you can catch from a bass boat are bass.... good thing sea bass are not a thing...

@opticmanz

9 ай бұрын

​@@norml.hugh-mannever hear of a striped bass?

I have a 15' Aluminum Jon Boat that is probably from the 1950s or 1960s. It sat upside down at my Grandma's small lake in Nebraska for over 30 years and I finally brought it home. It needs a new wooden transom and some new rivets but aside from that its in really good shape. Aluminum basically lasts forever.

@WayneTheBoatGuy

Жыл бұрын

That's very cool - I have a video about replacing a transom in one!

@chrisandsneaky2453

3 ай бұрын

My grandpa bought a 14 foot aluminum jonboat new in 1971. He paid $125 for it! Before he died in 1999, he gave it to me; I still have it and its in great shape aside from the fact that a lot of the paint is worn off and faded (it was painted green from the factory).

Good information! I got lucky a month ago and found a used 12’ Lowes boat, all tricked out, with new trailer.. trolling motor and everything for $1500

@WayneTheBoatGuy

10 ай бұрын

That is awesome!

Interesting thank you 🙏

I'll hold on to my 12ft, it's easy to handle for an older fella.

I think the system is failing us

@ckennedy309

Жыл бұрын

That or we are failing the system....I'll think about it.

@jackjohnson291

Жыл бұрын

It failed long ago.

@boatrvme8478

Жыл бұрын

No the system is busted by a bunch of politicians that have never held a job or balanced a check book!!! The country is being ran by a bunch of buffoons and the biggest buffoons are biden and giggles!!!

Bought a Lowe 10’40” in 2020. Love it. It wasn’t my entry level boat. My wife and I fish small lakes for pan fish and trout. My dad bought a used 12’ StarCraft in 1965. We left it on the beach of the Chesapeake bay and fished it for 30 years before a hurricane took it and crushed it. Wonder what a plastic boat will look like after 30 years on the sand in salt and sun.

I work next door to a Lund dealer in Canada and they have about 15 brand new12’ aluminum boats stacked up in their lot

Gosh darn it Wayne, I love your videos.

@WayneTheBoatGuy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy!

Time for wooden boat artisans of old to rise up.

@darkiee69

Жыл бұрын

With plywood and "stitch and glue" you can be your own artisan.

@trainwreck412...

Жыл бұрын

There are sheet metal workers that can start building small aluminum boats, too.

@tsriftsal3581

Жыл бұрын

Our savings are being bled but at least we can afford the war machine in other countries.

@Shade_Tree_Mechanic

Жыл бұрын

@@tsriftsal3581 Yeah it's great. We're helping secure the Ukrainian border, but our own southern border? No way

@Wallyworld30

Жыл бұрын

@@Shade_Tree_Mechanic When Mexico starts killing 100's of thousands of Americans I'm sure we'll also find resources to address it. Your comparison of the 2 borders is so wild it's as if your doing a Parody.

I will point that while my brother retired from the boat business and we are almost done with the cleanup and recycling of all the junked out old motors, we were getting almost .70 cents per pound for clean cast aluminum when we started to about .30 cents a pound today. At this time period the spread between market price and recycled price got wider and wider. I feel that even accounting for fuel costs today there has been some serious gouging going on. Also to add that after recycling about 30 tons of aluminum ( still not done) this amount would have made a lot of john boats. The last boat we had left was a small john, ironic.

@newmoon54

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Your point is well made! I've been in the outboard motor service business for 35 years! Scrap irony/alum. was up as much as 60 cents and clean cast alum. was bringing $2.00 a pound back in 1995/96 up on Long Island, N.Y. and I had the sense enough to scrap a whole bunch of outboard motors I think I had around 1,000 plus pounds of combined scrap. The scrap buyers are ripping people off too! They're not paying the current advertised market prices so the public always gets shafted!!! In my opinion, these boat manufacturers are simply forcing the public to buy the more expensive bigger jon boats, and if they discontinue the smaller boat line(s), people are forced to spend many thousands more than they would normally lay out!!!! Sad state of affairs in today's world! It's like the so-called ~inflation~!!! Biden shuts down the Keystone Pipeline,, and almost overnight,,, gas prices went up over a dollar a gallon, and hit $7.00 a gal. in some states!!! I was used to buying the 18 count carton of eggs at Walmart for $1.87 each, and less than 4 weeks later I was shocked to see the price rose to: $8.07 a carton?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

WOW! I feel very lucky considering. I bought my Lowe 1240 brand new in Spring of 2021 and have made a few mods on it. Cost about $1K before any mods made. I'll think twice now before letting her go, if I ever do, lol... Awesome skinny water boat I can STAND in and work the shoreline for bass on a variety of waters... Bonus is I can put it in the back of my 8 foot pickup bed and hand launch with the transom wheels I put on it. Cheaper than a high end kayak and more versatile IMO...

I will never buy a plasticboat.

I am a welder in Canada and will make 10ft to 14ft boats for anyone who want to pay the costs.

@ToddBudd88

Жыл бұрын

Not how that works … you’ll have to have a design that is coast guard certified and I hope you don’t mind bucking rivets

@Proxtor

Жыл бұрын

@Budd Todd who says I don't already have the plans from a marine boat designer.

It all boils down to what the dealership orders. My local dealership has a couple 12ft and a 14ft in stock. Pre Covid they could get 30 boats a year. And now only allowed to order 10

I have not been in a boat for 50 plus years the family had one aluminum double ended duck hunting boat with flotation cells and tubes for poles to anchor it in shallow waters. 2 canoes made of wood one built in the 1890's. Club boats were a split between clinker built and wood with fiberglass sheet to seal the outside the clinker built date from the 1900 to 1940's with the newer designs still being assembled on the private club property in Northern Michigan. I follow all transportation modes online which have the slightest chance of being used by military units around the world. Our local boat dealer in Northern Illinois shut down in the late 60's last boat I looked at there was priced in the several 100 thousand dollar range with Teak and Mahagony planking.

Most people buy their first "tinner" used.

Well said and explained. Thank you

When I was working at bass pro last year Tracker rep said they were making too much from the bigger ones an they couldn't even keep up then. I really wanted something small like a 14 or 15 but I guess I'll just stick to the ole 17' Coleman canoe and maybe do a side mounted trolling motor.

In away I think it is a blessing in disguise, It is saving alot of older boats from going to the scrap yard. As a teenager back in the 70's I grew up on the older Crestliner's and Starcraft's and so far I have 2 that I have rebuilt and fish with all the time, I have a 1976 16 foot Crestliner voyager deluxe and a 1973 18 foot Starcraft SS inboard. And I would not trade either one for a new aluminum boat in the same size class. Like the old saying they don't build them like they use too.

The avg. American has gotten bigger. I would imagine the average weight for an average male would be 225 and about 6' tall. So if you going to fish 2 per boat the 10 or 12 ft boat are probably too small for comfort or safety.

@hunterwaits408

10 ай бұрын

Average person is NO WHERE near that size....

@gordonvorenkamp6306

2 ай бұрын

My 12 ft Lowe had a sticker limiting weight to 365 lb. I was over weight with a gas 5hp and fuel tank so I moved up to 14 ft with a 695 lb sticker. Still mostly a one man boat for me and I would like to go bigger for safety.

Totally agree! Love the rotary phone hahaha!

I have owned 3 Grumman Sport Boats over the years. I love 'em! Why have I owned 3? Because when you're young you tend to do silly things you learn to regret. Like selling your aluminum boat! The one I own now was built in 1974. I will never sell it! 15'x 52" 110lbs dry. But it can haul 700lbs of people and gear. I row it, stand and pole it, or use a SUP paddle. And from time to time I use a 35lb thrust trolling motor. Really a good choice for skinny water bayous. Lightweight, durable, and considerably more stable than a canoe. And even though I store it outside bottom up on a rack in Florida, the summer sun has no effect. Love it. Yeh, the wonderful old Grumman Sport Boat is hard to find, but if you do find one grab it! Your great-grandchildren will thank you!

I bought a 12ft lund boat from Gone fishn in Dixon,CA (november 22). They also had 10ft (I saw 3 at least in their inventory).

When my sister bought a house, it came with a small aluminum boat. She uses it as a garden bed.

@FeelFreeToThink

Жыл бұрын

😅

@george344

Жыл бұрын

Build her a new one and empty the boat.

@conqueringlion420

Жыл бұрын

Great now is there anything else you forgot to tell us about going on in your personal lives?

I love my 250$ plastic kayak

@tomwiggins1225

Жыл бұрын

Thats cheap, mine cost over 1k

@SSHitMan

Жыл бұрын

I love my $2800 plastic kayak. 🐟

@Janotes

Жыл бұрын

Mine was $199.00 at Costco..

@floridagunrat1625

Жыл бұрын

Bought one used at the pawn shop for $125.00.

@noturfather1106

Жыл бұрын

16 ft royalex (plastic) canoe for 500 bucks

Pond Prowlers, Bass Raiders, Quest, Sun Dolphin, not to mention, kayaks that keep getting better. You're right! I have a kayak, and a Bass Raider 10. So yes, my next move, if I need to make one is, a 16ft aluminum boat. Right now, I don't need it, but if the grandkids ever decide they want to fish, I will be picking one up!

Good news for me as I will be selling my 10' jon boat this summer. Gunna raise the price!

Good video. I was wondering why these boats were all gone!

@WayneTheBoatGuy

Жыл бұрын

You and me both!

Cabela’s has the grizzly

@stairman3151

Жыл бұрын

Bass pro owns cabalas

I miss my first boat that I ever owned. 16' semi v haul with rounded keels. Was very wide. Held five adults comfortably with equipment. My 15' and 17' boat now have way less room

I bought a 11 ft kayak and it works fine for small lakes and streams but you are stuck sitting the whole time and it gets uncomfortable after awhile so I was looking for a 10ft jon boat so I could stand and move around and now you can't get them so it sucks that they don't make them right now and trying to find a used one is hard up north I see them all over in southern states cheap but here in North Dakota they are rare and hard to find and when you do find one they want more than they sold for new

Probably why Lowe stopped making a tiller option

I think that sucks I've been looking for one .

@ClintL63

Жыл бұрын

face place book market place has a shit tonne of used boats

Interesting.. thank you

You can walk into Bass Pro shops and walk out the door with one. They are more expensive than they was a couple years ago. But they have Jon boats right in store. They start with 10,12,14,15 + up.

Thanks for the info things are changing but not for the better

@la_old_salt2241

Жыл бұрын

They never do, it seams.

Back in the late 1980s, a boat like this caused an interesting thing to happen in the old railroad yard. At the west end of the yard, the tracks funneled down to a three-way junction and the switch and signal "interlocking plant" was remotely controlled by an operator in the yard office about half a mile away. The old trackside tower, where the operator had formerly been posted, had been taken out of service by this time, so the operator could no longer "see" what was going on, except for the indicator lights on his control board. Anyhow, one night about 10pm the track circuit lights started blinking on and off in progression from the bottom of the board to the top. Then about 2am the track circuit lights did a reverse, blinking on and off from the top of the board to the bottom. The next night the same thing happened. I don't recall how many times over how many days this occurred, but one night they had a signal maintainer parked in his truck beside the tracks. In short order a pickup truck with a boat in the open bed showed up. It turned out that two fishermen were dragging an aluminum john boat across the tracks to the river. The unpainted bottom of the boat was bridging both rails as it was dragged across the tracks, causing the track circuits to shunt and showing indication on the board. The maintainer advised the fishermen to stop doing that and find another way to the river or they could expect a visit from the railroad police. Thus ended the mysterious lights on the control machine.

@WayneTheBoatGuy

Жыл бұрын

That's a cool story - thanks for sharing!

@scottfw7169

2 ай бұрын

Hehe! Definitely fits the "You can't make this up" category. Gonna hafta tell a few people about this.

My one all aluminum boat had the ribs crack in tidal water. Delta areas where I went for oysters. I went into fiberglass boats also under 17 feet.

This explains a lot. I've been looking for an aluminum canoe for a while. I have a beautiful fiberglass canoe but as I'm getting older, it is harder for me to lift/handle my heavy fiberglass canoe especially by myself. Aluminum is much lighter. I've seen several used aluminum canoes for sale but they ALWAYS have issues (sun damaged, dented up with loose rivets, dirty beyond power washing cleaning, etc.). After about a dozen times traveling miles to look at someones garbage, I decided to just buy brand new. The only thing out there is fiberglass.

Most states have passed laws were you cannot register a boat or motor without a title big brother trying to save oem and Johnson failed but there's lots of boats sitting in yards that can't be used .

G3 still makes a 10ft boat.

@Ray56z

Жыл бұрын

I just seen one at the ramp this week. think it was a G3 1030? I also see a lot of off-shoot manufactures boats in the 10 and 12 foot lengths at the river ramp a block down the street-I'm talking about new ones.

Our local dealer has plenty of 10fts. I just purchased a 8ft new 3 weeks ago.. The smaller boats are hard to find because they sell fast for ponds.

I am a potter. I make a large and a small Tea Pot. Large is 3.5 lbs of clay at 40 cents a pound. The small is 2.5 lbs. Large sells wholesale for $60; The small sells for 30$. It takes the exact same amount of time and procedure to produce both tea pots.

Meanwhile small fishing kayaks are popular as hell.

@corsairyacht9839

Жыл бұрын

Wayne ye old fart ye stand corrected!

I work in manufacturing. Most of our parts are made from aluminum. Many of our jobs have come to a halt because of aluminum shortage. Thank Joe Biden.

@sinjonbradberry4475

Жыл бұрын

Biden seems to be the most powerful man in the world.

@stephenbrand5661

Жыл бұрын

🤣 Dark Brandon is responsible for ALL that ails us!!!!

@cnobillbradley9673

Жыл бұрын

So in March 2022 the president waved a magic wand and made sheet aluminum go up in price are you delusional. It supply chain issue.

@jupitercyclops6521

Жыл бұрын

No. You really think Joe makes decisions? Our financial problems exist because both parties in congress have been writing hot checks for decades. That & fed reserve. Both parties support fed reserve.

@jupitercyclops6521

Жыл бұрын

Funny how price of scrap aluminum hasn't gone up much.

Have a Lowe 1430 Jon Boat for ponds. Never get rid of it. It's seen 1K's of bass come over the side.

I had a 15 ft aluminum canoe back in the 70s. It was a Michicraft which was probably the chief competition to Grumman. Every bit as good for a lot less money.

Much has changed. When I was growing up in the mid-1950s, our fishing boat was a 14 foot Lone Star.

I have a old Sears 10 - 36 flat bottom it's great for pond hopping

The plastic boats are actually nice ! The old aluminum boats are nice to if you can find one with a title. It’s a hassle but with the proper leg work, you can get a title for it I just picked up an 1970 sears aluminum 11 ft boat and trailer with the trade of my basic Lincoln stick welder . I’m currently getting it ready for the water and waiting on a title Good Luck fishing this year and safe boating

@norml.hugh-mann

11 ай бұрын

What's the fascination with a title?

Marlon production makes small aluminum Jon boats and V hauls still. My brother in law bought a new 12 foot last spring

I love my 14ft Jon Boat, perfect size but not too small.

@gunfisher4661

Жыл бұрын

That`s the way I think of my 12` jon boat it is perfect size for one of my fishing hobbies, but I can`t carry the kitchen sink with me.

@FloodGates27

Жыл бұрын

@Karl with a K well it all depends on your style, I fish with another man which my 14’ fits both of us fine but also fits enough so we have comfortable space

@pain_weaver

Жыл бұрын

@Karl with a K you don't need to register the trailer

Price of Aluminum will only keep going up.

@kencleg7721

Жыл бұрын

They took the coal plants away Alcoa alum was the best the by product of useing coal Nope from 3 rd world place thanks lefties

I just paid $3700 for a riveted 1448 G3. In the first few months of the pandemic I paid $2800 for a sea ark welded 1648. Prices are insane right now. My local dealer does have pretty much every size of Jon boat… but you’re gunna pay

@newmoon54

Жыл бұрын

WAYNE IS BEING DISINGENUOUS HERE! HE'S AFRAID OF ANY BACKLASH IF HE SPOKE THE TRUTH HERE! MOST YOUNG FAMILIES USUALLY START OUT BUYING A 10 OR 12 FOOT JON BOAT AND IF THEY ENJOY BOATING, WILL GRADUATE INTO A 14 OR 16 FOOTER! SO, THE BOAT MANUFACTURERS ARE DOING THE BUYING PUBLIC A HUGE DISSERVICE BY REFUSING TO MAKE, WHAT THEY'VE BEEN MAKING FOR 50 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It all makes sense sir ! 👍

Tracker isn’t even making the 1448 grizzly either!

Southfork makes a 12 ft in 42", 44" and 46" bottoms.

@mikegrant8490

Жыл бұрын

Do they make a 14 ft x 42? What guage is the aluminum?

@matthewjones7935

Жыл бұрын

@Mike Grant they do in flat bottom, flat bottom v nose and v bottom. They are .100. I beat the crap out of my 1652 flat bottom and it takes it all.

I'm currently modifying my lowe 1040... Bought new a year ago under $1000... I did search a while and did end up one state over. Profit margin was the explanation I heard then as well.

Got the last Sun dolphin my wife and I love it,fits in the back of my pick up great price to 509.45