Why You Can Legally Steal From a Sinking Ship

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  • @samyakjainjss
    @samyakjainjss Жыл бұрын

    Now, I just need to find a place where sinking a ship is legal.

  • @epcg2media

    @epcg2media

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably somalia is your best bet

  • @ryshow9118

    @ryshow9118

    Жыл бұрын

    Everything is legal if you don't get caught 😅

  • @bobbyfeet2240

    @bobbyfeet2240

    Жыл бұрын

    It's legal everywhere as long as you make it look like an accident.

  • @E1craZ4life

    @E1craZ4life

    Жыл бұрын

    Anything is legal for you if you can make it look like someone else did it.

  • @cnordegren

    @cnordegren

    Жыл бұрын

    Russia Somalia Venezuela North Korea Eritrea Iran

  • @fpnbrian
    @fpnbrian Жыл бұрын

    ~10 years ago while sailing in the Caribbean early one morning we came across a 32ft center console power boat drifting straight towards a bunch of rocks with no one onboard. We boarded the vessel and towed it to a nearby port where we were requested by the police to tow it to the next harbor. During that transit time the police had tracked down the owner and confirmed that someone had attempted to steal the boat overnight and when they couldn't start the engines they left it drifting. The police asked us if we intended to file a pure salvage claim as it would be 100% in our rights to do so, but informed us that to collect on it would require going to court and may take months or years before the money was awarded. Given the good weather and minimal risk and cost to ourselves (only cost us half a day of vacation), we estimated that we would not get much more than $3-4k in the end. The owner offered to put up a $500 tab at the bar and restaurant we were planning to go to that evening which worked out to a $100 tab for each of us and we happily accepted feeling it was a good enough value on top of the great story and fun memories of the event. When we got to the restaurant that afternoon the staff were very curious why a local had given a bunch of sailors on vacation from the US a $500 tab, when we told them the story and told them that whatever was left on the tab that night they could keep as the tip, they declared that we were eating and drinking for free the whole night and gave us anything we wanted (and pocketed a nice $500 tip for themselves in the process). Needless to say the next morning was "rough", and I heard that someone had a security camera that allowed them to catch whomever tried to steal the boat, so it worked out well for everyone.

  • @MesaperProductions

    @MesaperProductions

    Жыл бұрын

    Now that sounds like a helluva vacation!

  • @petergerdes1094

    @petergerdes1094

    Жыл бұрын

    Except the thief.

  • @wraithcadmus

    @wraithcadmus

    Жыл бұрын

    You got a good night out, the owner got their boat back, the bar got a good tip, and the thief got caught. In the words of the poet O'Shea Jackson Sr, it was a good day.

  • @noneofyourbizness

    @noneofyourbizness

    Жыл бұрын

    great addition to the vid. cheers !

  • @fpnbrian

    @fpnbrian

    Жыл бұрын

    @@petergerdes1094 he got caught, so it worked out well! (ok maybe he thinks differently, but everyone else is happy with the outcome)...

  • @Wolfy8668
    @Wolfy8668 Жыл бұрын

    As a mariner this is fairly well explained. In fact most ships carry on the bridge a template contract for "pure salvage" called Lloyds Open Form, which has massive letters on the front cover "NO CURE, NO PAY". Lloyds Open Form is so standard that even oral agreement to terms and conditions of LOF is enough to stand in court as legal agreement.

  • @Speedster___

    @Speedster___

    Жыл бұрын

    What is no cure no pay?

  • @sjcodan

    @sjcodan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Speedster___ Something covered in this very video.

  • @Wolfy8668

    @Wolfy8668

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Speedster___ it means salvor get paid based on results and not efforts

  • @cvbattum

    @cvbattum

    Жыл бұрын

    Damn, maritime law is such a rabbit hole of interesting facts...

  • @wraithcadmus

    @wraithcadmus

    Жыл бұрын

    Lloyds, so old and essential to shipping there is literally a flag code for "Please report my location to Lloyd's of London" (ZD2).

  • @frederiknielsen6038
    @frederiknielsen6038 Жыл бұрын

    Just wanted to clarify that the criteria of "voulentary" applies to both parties. You cannot just tow a random ship into port during a storm and claim salvage, if the ship didn't agree to it. Even if the ship was in actual peril, and you succeded in doing it.

  • @InventorZahran

    @InventorZahran

    Жыл бұрын

    The ship must provide informed, uncoerced consent.

  • @maymeksykanin27

    @maymeksykanin27

    4 ай бұрын

    - Hey guys, u look like u are sinking, maybe u need help? - U just want to claim our cargo, f*** off

  • @maymeksykanin27

    @maymeksykanin27

    4 ай бұрын

    - Hey guys, u look like u are sinking, maybe u need help? - U just want to claim our cargo, f*** off

  • @maymeksykanin27

    @maymeksykanin27

    4 ай бұрын

    - Hey guys, u look like u are sinking, maybe u need help? - U just want to claim our cargo, f*** off

  • @maymeksykanin27

    @maymeksykanin27

    4 ай бұрын

    - Hey guys, u look like u are sinking, maybe u need help? - U just want to claim our cargo, f*** off

  • @Distantshoreman
    @Distantshoreman Жыл бұрын

    you missed some of the more fun elements. Rules for shares of the prize can apply. The owner of the ship is entitled to the bulk of the money, but the captain gets the most shares of the remaining amount on down do the lowest sailor who gets a single share. The captain can award additional shares for gallantry if a crew member did something above and beyond that put their life at risk to cause the rescue to succeed. There was a supertanker in the mid Atlantic that caught fire and a Canadian supply ship came to its rescue. It pick up the crew in the water and then used its helicopter to land firefighting crews put out the blaze and then attached a tow line. They started taking it back to Ireland. Along the way they they were ordered back to Canada so they signed a contract with a tugboat company to transport their prize back to Ireland. They ended up being screwed by the tugboat and the vessel owner who cut a sidebar deal at a lower rate and the Canadian government didn't pursue it. They gave the sailors a bit of cash and said it was done. The Captain quit the navy and sued. His settlement was covered by an NDA...

  • @rkan2

    @rkan2

    Жыл бұрын

    Right on ! :D Seems like that is one of the most binding international laws lol. Even above rules of war !

  • @yuki-sakurakawa

    @yuki-sakurakawa

    11 ай бұрын

    I just make my crew walk the plank if they question their share of the booty. 🦜

  • @Laotzu.Goldbug

    @Laotzu.Goldbug

    4 ай бұрын

    Do you know the name of either vessel involved?

  • @Distantshoreman

    @Distantshoreman

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Laotzu.Goldbug is was either HMCS Preserver, Provider or Protector. Not sure which one. I do not know the name of the tanker.

  • @gjvnq
    @gjvnq Жыл бұрын

    In Brazil we have a similar rule about lost property. If you come across some valuable thing you cannot just take it for yourself but you can return it the original owner in which case you would be entitled to a fraction of the value of the thing and the costs of preserving the thing until the owner picks it up. I don't recall any headlines of this being an issue probably because most lost stuff is either too cheap for a lawsuit to be worth it or the owner just offers to pay out of gratitude (this seems to be more common with emotional stuff like heirlooms and pets).

  • @user-xb9yv2ci4c

    @user-xb9yv2ci4c

    Жыл бұрын

    In Germany, we also have this and call it "Finderlohn" which means "finders wage". It is 5% for goods under 500€ and 3% for everything above.

  • @jbird4478

    @jbird4478

    Жыл бұрын

    We have a similar system here called "Your wallet was empty when I found it. But hey, at least you have your cards back."

  • @iandavidvillaloboswong5180

    @iandavidvillaloboswong5180

    Жыл бұрын

    I found your dog, can you give me one of its ears?

  • @thelegend8570

    @thelegend8570

    Жыл бұрын

    We have this in Switzerland as well.

  • @blessedafricarains6429

    @blessedafricarains6429

    Жыл бұрын

    I am entitled to a percentage of your dog ! *Chops off two limbs from the puppy*

  • @captainevenslower4400
    @captainevenslower4400 Жыл бұрын

    A few years ago we broke down with our crappy little 25hp outboard engine on an inflatable boat maybe 1 mile off the coast of croatia. So we yelled at some other guy nearby with a similar setup if he could drag us home which he ofc did. So yeah pretty similar story, but I'm grateful he didn't demand our toolbox and 2 sandwiches afterwards.

  • @dylanherrera5395

    @dylanherrera5395

    4 ай бұрын

    Damn! I'd be sad if I lost such a fortune like that too!

  • @miproduction6196

    @miproduction6196

    Ай бұрын

    You better knock on wood, because there’s no expiration date! Hell be at your door in a couple weeks here! Hell he’ll take that too!

  • @Seed
    @Seed Жыл бұрын

    Now I need to figure out how to sink ships…

  • @notaplic8158

    @notaplic8158

    Жыл бұрын

    No...

  • @ImBeezer

    @ImBeezer

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes.....

  • @k1dtw1st

    @k1dtw1st

    Жыл бұрын

    Bot

  • @naturesguard8745

    @naturesguard8745

    Жыл бұрын

    a well placed torpedo has been known to do the trick

  • @h7opolo

    @h7opolo

    Жыл бұрын

    loose lips might...

  • @Croz89
    @Croz89 Жыл бұрын

    There was an incident several years ago in the UK where a lot of cargo containers fell off a ship and washed up on a beach. Locals then "salvaged" the contents of many of these containers. In the end I do believe under UK maritime law it was considered "pure salvage" and those who had taken goods from these containers were entitled to a salvage fee of around 10% of the value of the goods. Which was a nice little bonus for a few lucky beachcombers who had managed to get something valuable out of a container.

  • @spookydirt

    @spookydirt

    Жыл бұрын

    was that the one with people driving away on the BMW motorbikes they'd salvaged?

  • @Croz89

    @Croz89

    Жыл бұрын

    @@spookydirt Someone managed to get some quad bikes I believe.

  • @somethinglikethat2176

    @somethinglikethat2176

    Жыл бұрын

    Important to remember that you need to register your claim with the insurance company of the ship.

  • @laratheplanespotter

    @laratheplanespotter

    Жыл бұрын

    I remember that!

  • @Croz89

    @Croz89

    Жыл бұрын

    @@trollolol705 With salvage contracts you'd price in the cost of recovery, with pure salvage if it's not worth recovering it doesn't get recovered. In this case since the costs were only the time of a few beachcombers, the salvage fee is generally worth it.

  • @HenryGK
    @HenryGK Жыл бұрын

    Now you just need to do a video explaining the legal differences between flotsam, jetsam, lagan and derelict cargo.

  • @40below1000

    @40below1000

    Жыл бұрын

    Flotsam = cargo washed overboard "floats" away. Jetsam = Cargo intentionally thrown overboard (jettisoned) by the crew to lighten the boat

  • @ferretyluv

    @ferretyluv

    Жыл бұрын

    Not sure about derelict cargo, but I know the other three. Flotsam fell off the boat, jetsam was thrown off the boat, and lagan is stuff thrown or fallen off the boat that’s on the sea floor.

  • @zrspangle

    @zrspangle

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@ferretyluv derelict is cargo where there's no reasonable expectation of being able to recover it.

  • @jobsteigstra2885
    @jobsteigstra2885 Жыл бұрын

    It also works for airplanes. In 1983 a fighter jet from the RAF got lost and landed on a container vessel. The crew of the vessel was awarded 570 000 British pounds.

  • @ferretyluv

    @ferretyluv

    Жыл бұрын

    That must have been a long container ship if a fighter jet could use it as a landing strip.

  • @johnadler6987

    @johnadler6987

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ferretyluv Could've been a Harrier.

  • @ferretyluv

    @ferretyluv

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnadler6987 I was thinking of that as I was writing, but were those out in 83?

  • @JustAnotherRandomPersonOnline

    @JustAnotherRandomPersonOnline

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ferretyluv I believe so, yes. (at least a quick google search seems to say yes?)

  • @mistertagnan

    @mistertagnan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ferretyluv yes, they were introduced in the late 60s and continued serving until the early 2000s (in some cases)

  • @bobbyfeet2240
    @bobbyfeet2240 Жыл бұрын

    As an Italian American, I endorse the boat-driving joke. I'd note that Christopher Columbus was an Italian, but that really only helps your case.

  • @rincwind666

    @rincwind666

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe he had the good sense to not actually do the driving at least

  • @dgpsf

    @dgpsf

    Жыл бұрын

    Check it out, guys! It's-a India!

  • @zaphod4245

    @zaphod4245

    Жыл бұрын

    "As an Italian American", so... an American

  • @michaelvick2872

    @michaelvick2872

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zaphod4245 you don’t understand how immigration works?

  • @marsovac

    @marsovac

    Жыл бұрын

    @@michaelvick2872 it is not that, the joke was on "italian american" something that an american has on OCD on specifying both countries. italians would just say italian or american.

  • @SebAnders
    @SebAnders Жыл бұрын

    "It's legitimate salvage!" is the maritime version of "I'm a legitimate businessman!"

  • @SuprSBG

    @SuprSBG

    Жыл бұрын

    Accidental “The Expanse” reference?

  • @SebAnders

    @SebAnders

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SuprSBG Not intended but fully endorsed, The Expanse is a great series

  • @cassiemyersconcertvids
    @cassiemyersconcertvids Жыл бұрын

    This is very cool, Sam. Thank you for the legal advice.

  • @Lyarrah
    @Lyarrah Жыл бұрын

    Ah, I see Ben's working through the list of rejected Crime Spree laws again. Edit: in my defense, I said this before I finished watching it, and did not expect the Crime Spree reference at the end.

  • @Speedster___

    @Speedster___

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah that’s Adam

  • @unidentifiedperson1357

    @unidentifiedperson1357

    Жыл бұрын

    hey i remember you from hermitcraft recap

  • @soundscape26

    @soundscape26

    Жыл бұрын

    @@romangiertych5198 Admittedly I never watch the credits but does Sam ever write anything?

  • @soundscape26

    @soundscape26

    Жыл бұрын

    @@romangiertych5198 Yes, I know he should be the main (sole?) scriptwriter at Wendover but I curious if he ever wrote any episodes for HAI. Maybe at the very beginning.

  • @jakerydont
    @jakerydont Жыл бұрын

    “At sea there is no such thing as weird behavior”

  • @wraithcadmus

    @wraithcadmus

    Жыл бұрын

    "It's okay if it's underway"

  • @somethinglikethat2176

    @somethinglikethat2176

    Жыл бұрын

    Below 40 degrees south there is no law; below 50 degrees south there is no god.

  • @emborg3145
    @emborg3145 Жыл бұрын

    me on my way to be a legal pirate

  • @mastershooter64

    @mastershooter64

    Жыл бұрын

    okay jack sparrow

  • @Sparticulous

    @Sparticulous

    Жыл бұрын

    Keep careful as the coast guard can still blast you out of the ocean.

  • @matthew_natividad

    @matthew_natividad

    Жыл бұрын

    Also checkout the epic how to be a pirate

  • @idkwhybut...

    @idkwhybut...

    Жыл бұрын

    "I believe you mean privateer"

  • @thejudges1267
    @thejudges1267 Жыл бұрын

    Sam I loved the video! rarely does admiralty law get enough love. Two things I wanted to add. First marine peril does not have to be actual. Marine peril can just be the apprehension of peril, like in Markakis v. SS Volendam. This cases had a disabled cruise ship being towed in reasonably calm water to avoid shallow water and the Cuban navy. Second, the 6.4 million was not the final number. That was what the trial court ruled, later that number got reduced on appeal to 4.125 due to a whole re-evaluation of the rocket. see Margate Shipping Co. v. MV J.A. Orgeron. Keep making great videos!

  • @mnxs

    @mnxs

    Жыл бұрын

    Correction, it is _Volendam,_ not _Voldendam_ (which, on a side note, is not not be confused with the Dutch ocean liner from the 1920s of the same name). How do I know? Because I googled the case to find out what it was about with the Cuban Navy. And congratulations, you just casually referenced a case that seems so obscure, the only results that came back are the Google Scholar reproductions of the actual court documents. I'm impressed.

  • @Canniba11er
    @Canniba11er Жыл бұрын

    “At sea, there’s no such thing as weird behavior” sums up a ton of maritime traditions, laws and outfits.

  • @ThorRuneHansen
    @ThorRuneHansen Жыл бұрын

    My dad and my uncle did this many years ago. A pleasure craft had torn the moorings in a heavy wind, and they went out in a boat and towed it in. They got a certain percentage of the pleasure crafts value. The owner was quite angry to have to pay that, but otherwise the boat might have ended up in some rocks somewhere so that's real peril.

  • @EpicgamerwinXD6669
    @EpicgamerwinXD6669 Жыл бұрын

    But as long as you’re not the one that caused said ship to sink, right?

  • @notaplic8158

    @notaplic8158

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes chief

  • @sirel33

    @sirel33

    Жыл бұрын

    _Right?_

  • @chwriter7138

    @chwriter7138

    Жыл бұрын

    as long as they can't PROVE you're the one who caused said ship to sink

  • @prim16

    @prim16

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chwriter7138 *Hey Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today*

  • @sephikong8323

    @sephikong8323

    Жыл бұрын

    The law only apply if they're fast enough to witness you do it

  • @jakesmith9089
    @jakesmith9089 Жыл бұрын

    States in the great lakes area have similar laws for salvaging. Usually someone drives their vehicle over an ice covered body of water. The vehicle, shanty, falls through and the owner has 3 days to get the item out and face fines for pollution depending on what fell through the ice. Usually after 3 days the item is available for anyone to salvage and keep as their own even without a title.

  • @JorneDeSmedt
    @JorneDeSmedt Жыл бұрын

    An answer to the question "What would happen if we let an Italian drive a boat?" Cue flashback to the first Punic War.

  • @TheCheck999

    @TheCheck999

    Жыл бұрын

    A man of culture I see.

  • @wraithcadmus

    @wraithcadmus

    Жыл бұрын

    Even the more Romaboo channels I follow all go "yeah the Romans couldn't sail for shit"

  • @scythal

    @scythal

    Жыл бұрын

    Remember that one Italian guy who landed on the wrong continent thinking it was India... who was it...?

  • @gargoyle7863
    @gargoyle7863 Жыл бұрын

    It triggered me that it was referred to as a weird old law because we have a similar rule in the law here in Germany: Anyone who conducts the business of another without authorization to protect their rights has a claim against them. Through this video, I did some research and found out that such a law exists only in some legal systems.

  • @bradlevantis913
    @bradlevantis913 Жыл бұрын

    This it well explained. I occasionally have to go over this with smaller boats and paid salvage/tow boats. The in danger part is always the sticking point. Someone broken down is not in danger-but some “salvage” boats will try to tell them that darkness automatically means danger.

  • @AmaraJordanMusic
    @AmaraJordanMusic Жыл бұрын

    My husband is big on history and piracy in general. He has a Jolly Roger tattoo for crying out loud. Any time I think he’s underhanded in a game or something he just smiles and goes, “Pirate.” This video is going to make his day. 😂

  • @bullzebub

    @bullzebub

    Жыл бұрын

    has he heard ye banished privateers?

  • @bullzebub

    @bullzebub

    Жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/c6KKrcuQdZXRkZs.html

  • @diante50
    @diante50 Жыл бұрын

    When I was studying marine engineer, we were taugh some maritime law and case history too. One in particular involved a crew abandoning ship due to some issue (I think a storm?) And once the storm subsided they saw the ship was still okay. So they went back on and claimed it as salvage.

  • @jaquigreenlees
    @jaquigreenlees Жыл бұрын

    Some jurisdictions have a restriction on open salvage of derelict vessels. In Canadian waters if you get an abandoned vessel into safety so it is not a hazard to the environment or navigation you are limited to getting your costs incurred back. The "derelict fleets" dotting many waterways would be easy to clear out with this, drag them to a shipyard and get them hauled out and stored on the yard, the fuel costs for the tow, the haulout cost and storage costs ( ever increasing storage costs so it needs to be resolved quickly ) are the recoverables. If it sits on the yard long enough complete title is granted as it's value is the same or less than your expenses. Check your local laws for things like that, you can get rid of those falling apart boats anchored in a lot of areas if they have similar regs.

  • @lolicantthinkofabettername3437
    @lolicantthinkofabettername3437 Жыл бұрын

    I haven't been following it, but I read a while ago that the firm that unblocked the Seuez canal after the ever given famously blocked it also did so without a contract and it seemed they were going to claim part of the value of the cargo. Don't know whether they ended up doing so tho.

  • @danieltelemiare8747
    @danieltelemiare8747 Жыл бұрын

    1:45 "We do not endorse the previous joke. Half as Interesting supports all Italians"

  • @InsaneSoloClutch
    @InsaneSoloClutch Жыл бұрын

    “Ferb, I know what we’re gonna do today!”

  • @lauraketteridge324
    @lauraketteridge324 Жыл бұрын

    Please write out 100 times, "Salvage is not theft."

  • @somethinglikethat2176

    @somethinglikethat2176

    Жыл бұрын

    Like many things in life, consent is important.

  • @dannypipewrench533
    @dannypipewrench533 Жыл бұрын

    1:39 Wonderful.

  • @jabber1990
    @jabber1990 Жыл бұрын

    "we just let the pirate steal it since they were going to anyways"

  • @79adventures
    @79adventures11 ай бұрын

    Philippines had close to 2000 cargo ships beached during the Odette typhoon. more than 900 spilled oil within a week. was one of the biggest maritime oil spills in South East Asia last Dec 2022

  • @yobaafett
    @yobaafett Жыл бұрын

    Your videos have so much more personality, great content as always :)

  • @dougerrohmer
    @dougerrohmer Жыл бұрын

    There's another weird maritime law: Back in the early 2000's, there was a ship anchored in Table Bay off Cape Town South Africa. A heavy wind came up, and Port Control radioed the ship to warn them that they are dragging their anchors. The captain of the ship's response was "Don't tell me my job, I'm far too clever!" And so it came to pass that the massive ship beached itself and the captain packed his back and got a cab to the airport and sayonara'ed outta there. So now there was a massive containership on the beach, and nobody wanted to foot the bill to yank it off. The owners were some US corporation, and I'm not sure what the story with the insurers was. There was hazardous cargo which included explosives, low-pressure gas and corrosive acids, antimony and uranium ore. And so the ball was kicked around between various government departments, and authorities and nothing happened. At this point, the cargo was still on it, and since it was a huge ship there were a lot of people who had cargo on the ship and they were all begging anybody who would listen to please tow the ship off the beach. Eventually some of the cargo was magic'ed off the ship (not an easy job due to location or whatever) and the fuel oil was pumped out. So there was a huge bill for cleanup and unloading the cargo and cutting up the ship because it was on that beach where everybody takes the pics of Table Mountain from when they need to prove to Facebook that they were in Cape Town. So who's gonna pay? So high powered lawyers get involved, probably funded by the insurers, and they dredge up an ancient maritime law that says everybody who owns cargo on the ship is responsible. Say what? So a whole bunch of Capetonians and companies and such got a bill and had to pay. How about flogging the victims? I can't find confirmation that the cargo owners were stuck with the bill, but that was definitely what I remember. Check it out - Sealand Express.

  • @kaimuller169

    @kaimuller169

    Жыл бұрын

    pretty sure that everyone got had stuff on the evergiven also had to pay part of the cost of that desaster as well due to some kind of similiar law

  • @dougerrohmer

    @dougerrohmer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kaimuller169 Yeah, it's nuts. The captain was warned, he screwed up and hit the airport so fast it made your head spin.

  • @Virtrial
    @Virtrial Жыл бұрын

    The fake brick advertisement at 5:57 is why I keep watching this show. Long live the bricks!

  • @idevoru
    @idevoru Жыл бұрын

    Surprisingly concise and well written. Just finish my law report on salvage. Maybe you can talk about maritime lien as well

  • @3rdalbum
    @3rdalbum Жыл бұрын

    It seems like maritime salvage laws fulfil the same function as squatter's rights laws - it encourages messy situations to be cleaned up. Salvage provides an incentive to rid the ocean of abandoned ships, squatter's rights provides an incentive to rid the land of abandoned dwellings.

  • @leighsowers5099
    @leighsowers5099 Жыл бұрын

    Lloyd’s Open Form hasn’t been no cure no pay since like the 80s. Every LOF has the SCOPIC added since then. It’s not a “it sometimes happens”. Now every contract has the SCOPIC for pollution remediation. You can also have a Wreck Hire, Wreck Fixed, lumpsum, daily hire, time & materials, and other contract types.

  • @magnemoe1
    @magnemoe1 Жыл бұрын

    Friend of mine got salvage money after a group of kids rescuing an sailboat who was adrift and was close to running aground. They towed it to an marina. Some there called insurance companies. Think he got around $3K back in the 80's so serious money for an kid.

  • @prim16
    @prim16 Жыл бұрын

    Time to become a superhero who sinks ships and then rescues them right afterwards

  • @kpolitis6958

    @kpolitis6958

    Жыл бұрын

    I have the perfect place for you...go to ukraine

  • @yeti4269
    @yeti4269 Жыл бұрын

    2:40 Byzantine playing some Civ 5 I see

  • @UnleashthePhury
    @UnleashthePhury3 ай бұрын

    Little known fact, if you steal something from an airplane before it hits the ground and explodes, you can keep that shit too

  • @Krisjoverovovejovovichtski

    @Krisjoverovovejovovichtski

    3 ай бұрын

    So you do some james bond parachute outta there before it lands

  • @Mephitinae
    @Mephitinae Жыл бұрын

    Actually the helmsman of Costa Concordia was a an Indonesian migrant who had lied about his qualifications. The Italian Captain was not at the wheel.

  • @clandestin011
    @clandestin011 Жыл бұрын

    Here's one for the annual "mistakes we've made" episodes, and yeah I'm gonna be that guy : 0:11 is that really how you spell "Posiedon"?

  • @estebancamacho2282

    @estebancamacho2282

    Жыл бұрын

    this has got to be on the 2023 mistake compilation xD

  • @hanshyttinen9966

    @hanshyttinen9966

    Жыл бұрын

    He managed to misspell both Poseidon and Orgeron.

  • @TheFallingFlamingo
    @TheFallingFlamingo Жыл бұрын

    -Purposefully sink ship containing Arizona Green Teas -Loot all the Arizona Green Teas -??? -Drink the sweet nectar of the gods until diabeetus has it's way with you

  • @TS_Mind_Swept
    @TS_Mind_Swept Жыл бұрын

    I love how you went from a video about pillaging straight in to "half as interestings crime spree" 😂😂😂

  • @ianbelletti6241
    @ianbelletti62414 ай бұрын

    This is a complex issue. It depends on the maritime area it sinks. In the US, we have local state waters, federal waters, and international waters. You have to be certain of which salvage lawset you are under when you salvage the ship.

  • @heidirabenau511
    @heidirabenau511 Жыл бұрын

    Where's Legal Eagle when we need him?

  • @SpeedBird6780

    @SpeedBird6780

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think he specializes in maritime law.

  • @mfmageiwatch

    @mfmageiwatch

    Жыл бұрын

    No one ever needs Legal Eagle, he's a hack.

  • @ONEMoneyONE
    @ONEMoneyONE4 ай бұрын

    Now I just need to figure out how to legally sink a ship

  • @SalMinella
    @SalMinella Жыл бұрын

    🎶 Yourrrrr’e a crook Captain Hook Judge won’t you throw the book At the Piiiirate... 🎶

  • @13thravenpurple94
    @13thravenpurple94 Жыл бұрын

    Great video THank you

  • @thefareplayer2254
    @thefareplayer2254 Жыл бұрын

    1:42 There goes the Italy season of JetLag 🤣

  • @akidshistoryandaviation
    @akidshistoryandaviation Жыл бұрын

    I’d heard of this but never knew all the details. Somebody called it “pirate law” but didn’t know all the details

  • @finscreenname
    @finscreenname Жыл бұрын

    This not only applies to ocean going vessels but if Sea Tow or the others get your boat hooked up for any reason you are paying them and it can be up to 800 bucks.

  • @N3UROTOXIN2505
    @N3UROTOXIN25054 ай бұрын

    That Italian joke fell flat because…well Venice. Now if you said let an Italian drive a ship without using a stick

  • @andrewrockwell1282
    @andrewrockwell1282 Жыл бұрын

    Random thing to learn on a Friday morning, but kinda interesting. Like not fully interesting like a video about bricks would be, maybe.. half as interesting. 😊

  • @AmaraJordanMusic
    @AmaraJordanMusic Жыл бұрын

    I fully expected a comment about the average flight speed of an unladen swallow at some point, but despite that disappointment (such is life), full marks. Well done.

  • @Pwn3dbyth3n00b
    @Pwn3dbyth3n00b Жыл бұрын

    In the future you might be able to salvage a Martian Naval ship as legitimate salvage.

  • @bes03c
    @bes03c Жыл бұрын

    I want a reddit AMA with the folks on the oil tanker who got the salvage money.

  • @NoSlaying
    @NoSlaying Жыл бұрын

    really funny story behind that Costa Concordia, i really recommend watching Internet Historian's video on it

  • @Trusty_Shellback
    @Trusty_Shellback Жыл бұрын

    Lol I wouldnt call it too obscure, at least within the maritime field. I had test questions about pure salvage on my Chief Mate exams I took last week. I also know a guy who is captain of a salvage ship, that industry is very much alive today.

  • @jareddavies1699
    @jareddavies1699 Жыл бұрын

    Does the money go to the company that owns the ship involved in the salvage, or does it go to the captain and the crew involved?

  • @ajayluhach007
    @ajayluhach00710 ай бұрын

    So i just need to legally sink a sheep now, hmmm that's a little too easy

  • @Ze-hy9gw
    @Ze-hy9gw Жыл бұрын

    well time to try this now

  • @artielikesthings
    @artielikesthings Жыл бұрын

    "no such thing as weird behaviour" at sea really explains ben and adam's cream trip...

  • @TheWebstaff
    @TheWebstaff Жыл бұрын

    Now I need a video on how the crew didn't get any of the payout on how the form that owned the tanker got all the money. Because you know that's what happened.

  • @valdermaar
    @valdermaar Жыл бұрын

    Hehe. PosIEdon. Time to update that mistake list EDIT: 0:12

  • @samiraperi467

    @samiraperi467

    Жыл бұрын

    Also: 0:12 J. A. Oregeron, 3:04 J. A. Orgeron Dunno which is correct but at least one of them is wrong.

  • @Raphael-pt7rx
    @Raphael-pt7rx10 ай бұрын

    imagine you save a ship and they say gj buddy, but you were also on our ship that was about to kill you too, so because you saved yourself we wont reward you

  • @grogery1570
    @grogery15704 ай бұрын

    The most unusual salvage claim I know of was in WWII when a merchant vessel was attacked and a fire got out of control, so the captain gave the order to abandon ship. After a few days in life boats some of the crew sighted the ship which was still afloat and the fires had burned themselves out. They eventually were able to claim salvage as the captain was not part of the salvage efforts, there was a legitimate reason to abandon ship and they had obeyed orders when abandoning ship.

  • @STEPHEN1463
    @STEPHEN1463Ай бұрын

    My friends and I jokingly call the Coast Guard the Puddle Pirates. Lol

  • @JeffreyAllanBackowski
    @JeffreyAllanBackowski Жыл бұрын

    So, if I was on one of those casinos they float on the Mississippi river to get around gambling laws and somehow it mysteriously catches on fire or starts to sink, would I be able to grab whatever I wanted, bounce, then keep whatever I grabbed once I'm off?

  • @pepsicle4725
    @pepsicle4725 Жыл бұрын

    hi sam!! love ur vids!!!

  • @djaceofpentacles
    @djaceofpentacles Жыл бұрын

    This is so reminiscent of South Park's "It was coming right for us!" Justification.

  • @jaridkeen123
    @jaridkeen1235 ай бұрын

    Did the crew get the money or the owner if the ship?

  • @feritperliare2890
    @feritperliare28904 ай бұрын

    I suggest we don't give people that already seem detached from existence some assumptions that someone can sink a ship and plunder it

  • @pervocracy
    @pervocracy Жыл бұрын

    There was a fun salvage case in the 60s when a USAF B-52 carrying nuclear weapons crashed off the coast of Spain. A local fisherman found one of the bombs and asked for a modest 1% finder's fee--on a $2 billion value. (They settled out of court for probably a lot less and supposedly never paid up. I don't know for certain, but I wonder if one of the counterarguments was "you know what, keep it, it's yours... which makes you a nuclear armed non-state actor. best of luck with that.")

  • @KlaxontheImpailr
    @KlaxontheImpailr11 ай бұрын

    3:51 I want to see this as an scp now 🤣

  • @seniorbob2180
    @seniorbob2180 Жыл бұрын

    @0:50 StarSector Admirals represent!

  • @Maik_Grnto
    @Maik_Grnto Жыл бұрын

    Guess Sam read the book “In Peril” and it gave him the idea to make this video about the situation lol

  • @matthewshambler2644
    @matthewshambler2644 Жыл бұрын

    “Their official job to guard coasts” hahaha..

  • @finscreenname
    @finscreenname Жыл бұрын

    And that oil tanker will play hell getting someone to help them in the future.

  • @tisjester

    @tisjester

    Жыл бұрын

    Why? The same rule would be in play for them. If someone comes to their aid then they would get awarded salvage just the same. As a result of their action, Strong and his crew were awarded the American Merchant Marine Seamanship Trophy. They put themselves and their boat at great risk to rescue the Tug and cargo. The suit was due to how to determine the value of the ET-70 tank as there is no open market value - that had to be determined by a court.

  • @KaranLopez
    @KaranLopez Жыл бұрын

    Finally a new career prospect

  • @nahuelma97
    @nahuelma97 Жыл бұрын

    Question: was the amount awarded to the boat that helped the other boats by a court given to the company that owned the boat or to the employees who worked at the boat to help the boat in danger? Like, in those cases, is the sum awarded to the people who literally helped, or to the company that employs the people who literally helped?

  • @KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain
    @KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain Жыл бұрын

    Purser: why are you looting the ship is sinking?? Passenger: I’m not looting I’m salvaging!

  • @EinfachFredhaftGaming
    @EinfachFredhaftGaming Жыл бұрын

    Main thing keeping me off nebula is the lack of a TV app. Hate watching content while sitting on my desk

  • @petergerdes1094

    @petergerdes1094

    Жыл бұрын

    I hate the lack of ability to create playlists and the fact that I can't just listen to audio without the miniplayer on iOS (and everytime I close phone to just listen I have to hit play again)

  • @dehno3538
    @dehno353811 ай бұрын

    So basically theres still some validity to becoming a seafaring adventurerer

  • @42111
    @42111 Жыл бұрын

    2:23 I can confirm that weird behavior is perfectly normal: source, I’m sailing on a cargo ship right now.

  • @GojiMet86
    @GojiMet86 Жыл бұрын

    Next time they move a Space Shuttle overseas on a ship, you know where you will find me.

  • @johnwang9914
    @johnwang99143 ай бұрын

    Well a sociopathy diagnosis not a psychopathy diagnosis, at least till direct harm to others are considered.

  • @peterhoulihan9766
    @peterhoulihan9766 Жыл бұрын

    It's hardly obscure, it's been the mainstream rule of abandoned stuff floating at sea since forever. Enshrining it in law was just recognising that very little could stop fishermen stealing abandoned stuff in the mdidle of nowhere with no witnesses and finding a way to tax it.

  • @fakiirification

    @fakiirification

    5 ай бұрын

    yeah, this law simply encourages people to report their findings rather than stripping them for everything of value and scuttling the rest that cant be resold without documentation like hull resgestration, etc.

  • @2200stiffy
    @2200stiffy Жыл бұрын

    Pelican Soup. I'm dieing 😂😂

  • @2200stiffy

    @2200stiffy

    Жыл бұрын

    PELLICAN SOUP!

  • @TheAres1999

    @TheAres1999

    8 ай бұрын

    So are the pelicans

  • @bandi10xx31
    @bandi10xx314 ай бұрын

    SAM YOU DIDNT DESERVE THE SEASON 8 WIN

  • @LeFerret335
    @LeFerret335 Жыл бұрын

    I thought Sam had a stroke trying to say "Oregon"

  • @kevinfreeman3098
    @kevinfreeman3098 Жыл бұрын

    Ahh, I beg to differ, I can save my ass or save your boat, and if I save both, bet your ass is going to pay me...

  • @Thermalions
    @Thermalions Жыл бұрын

    I'd be shocked if that tanker crew got any of that salvage payment.

  • @lego_minifig
    @lego_minifig Жыл бұрын

    I feel like this nebula ad is directly trying to combat Linus’s comments on the platform

  • @TheHylianBatman
    @TheHylianBatman Жыл бұрын

    Wow, very cool. Maritime law is so weird, and so interesting.

  • @apveening

    @apveening

    Жыл бұрын

    Maritime law is so weird because it evolved over centuries with lots of legal systems involved.