Why You Can Legally Steal From a Sinking Ship
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Now, I just need to find a place where sinking a ship is legal.
@epcg2media
Жыл бұрын
Probably somalia is your best bet
@ryshow9118
Жыл бұрын
Everything is legal if you don't get caught 😅
@bobbyfeet2240
Жыл бұрын
It's legal everywhere as long as you make it look like an accident.
@E1craZ4life
Жыл бұрын
Anything is legal for you if you can make it look like someone else did it.
@cnordegren
Жыл бұрын
Russia Somalia Venezuela North Korea Eritrea Iran
~10 years ago while sailing in the Caribbean early one morning we came across a 32ft center console power boat drifting straight towards a bunch of rocks with no one onboard. We boarded the vessel and towed it to a nearby port where we were requested by the police to tow it to the next harbor. During that transit time the police had tracked down the owner and confirmed that someone had attempted to steal the boat overnight and when they couldn't start the engines they left it drifting. The police asked us if we intended to file a pure salvage claim as it would be 100% in our rights to do so, but informed us that to collect on it would require going to court and may take months or years before the money was awarded. Given the good weather and minimal risk and cost to ourselves (only cost us half a day of vacation), we estimated that we would not get much more than $3-4k in the end. The owner offered to put up a $500 tab at the bar and restaurant we were planning to go to that evening which worked out to a $100 tab for each of us and we happily accepted feeling it was a good enough value on top of the great story and fun memories of the event. When we got to the restaurant that afternoon the staff were very curious why a local had given a bunch of sailors on vacation from the US a $500 tab, when we told them the story and told them that whatever was left on the tab that night they could keep as the tip, they declared that we were eating and drinking for free the whole night and gave us anything we wanted (and pocketed a nice $500 tip for themselves in the process). Needless to say the next morning was "rough", and I heard that someone had a security camera that allowed them to catch whomever tried to steal the boat, so it worked out well for everyone.
@MesaperProductions
Жыл бұрын
Now that sounds like a helluva vacation!
@petergerdes1094
Жыл бұрын
Except the thief.
@wraithcadmus
Жыл бұрын
You got a good night out, the owner got their boat back, the bar got a good tip, and the thief got caught. In the words of the poet O'Shea Jackson Sr, it was a good day.
@noneofyourbizness
Жыл бұрын
great addition to the vid. cheers !
@fpnbrian
Жыл бұрын
@@petergerdes1094 he got caught, so it worked out well! (ok maybe he thinks differently, but everyone else is happy with the outcome)...
As a mariner this is fairly well explained. In fact most ships carry on the bridge a template contract for "pure salvage" called Lloyds Open Form, which has massive letters on the front cover "NO CURE, NO PAY". Lloyds Open Form is so standard that even oral agreement to terms and conditions of LOF is enough to stand in court as legal agreement.
@Speedster___
Жыл бұрын
What is no cure no pay?
@sjcodan
Жыл бұрын
@@Speedster___ Something covered in this very video.
@Wolfy8668
Жыл бұрын
@@Speedster___ it means salvor get paid based on results and not efforts
@cvbattum
Жыл бұрын
Damn, maritime law is such a rabbit hole of interesting facts...
@wraithcadmus
Жыл бұрын
Lloyds, so old and essential to shipping there is literally a flag code for "Please report my location to Lloyd's of London" (ZD2).
Just wanted to clarify that the criteria of "voulentary" applies to both parties. You cannot just tow a random ship into port during a storm and claim salvage, if the ship didn't agree to it. Even if the ship was in actual peril, and you succeded in doing it.
@InventorZahran
Жыл бұрын
The ship must provide informed, uncoerced consent.
@maymeksykanin27
4 ай бұрын
- Hey guys, u look like u are sinking, maybe u need help? - U just want to claim our cargo, f*** off
@maymeksykanin27
4 ай бұрын
- Hey guys, u look like u are sinking, maybe u need help? - U just want to claim our cargo, f*** off
@maymeksykanin27
4 ай бұрын
- Hey guys, u look like u are sinking, maybe u need help? - U just want to claim our cargo, f*** off
@maymeksykanin27
4 ай бұрын
- Hey guys, u look like u are sinking, maybe u need help? - U just want to claim our cargo, f*** off
you missed some of the more fun elements. Rules for shares of the prize can apply. The owner of the ship is entitled to the bulk of the money, but the captain gets the most shares of the remaining amount on down do the lowest sailor who gets a single share. The captain can award additional shares for gallantry if a crew member did something above and beyond that put their life at risk to cause the rescue to succeed. There was a supertanker in the mid Atlantic that caught fire and a Canadian supply ship came to its rescue. It pick up the crew in the water and then used its helicopter to land firefighting crews put out the blaze and then attached a tow line. They started taking it back to Ireland. Along the way they they were ordered back to Canada so they signed a contract with a tugboat company to transport their prize back to Ireland. They ended up being screwed by the tugboat and the vessel owner who cut a sidebar deal at a lower rate and the Canadian government didn't pursue it. They gave the sailors a bit of cash and said it was done. The Captain quit the navy and sued. His settlement was covered by an NDA...
@rkan2
Жыл бұрын
Right on ! :D Seems like that is one of the most binding international laws lol. Even above rules of war !
@yuki-sakurakawa
11 ай бұрын
I just make my crew walk the plank if they question their share of the booty. 🦜
@Laotzu.Goldbug
4 ай бұрын
Do you know the name of either vessel involved?
@Distantshoreman
3 ай бұрын
@@Laotzu.Goldbug is was either HMCS Preserver, Provider or Protector. Not sure which one. I do not know the name of the tanker.
In Brazil we have a similar rule about lost property. If you come across some valuable thing you cannot just take it for yourself but you can return it the original owner in which case you would be entitled to a fraction of the value of the thing and the costs of preserving the thing until the owner picks it up. I don't recall any headlines of this being an issue probably because most lost stuff is either too cheap for a lawsuit to be worth it or the owner just offers to pay out of gratitude (this seems to be more common with emotional stuff like heirlooms and pets).
@user-xb9yv2ci4c
Жыл бұрын
In Germany, we also have this and call it "Finderlohn" which means "finders wage". It is 5% for goods under 500€ and 3% for everything above.
@jbird4478
Жыл бұрын
We have a similar system here called "Your wallet was empty when I found it. But hey, at least you have your cards back."
@iandavidvillaloboswong5180
Жыл бұрын
I found your dog, can you give me one of its ears?
@thelegend8570
Жыл бұрын
We have this in Switzerland as well.
@blessedafricarains6429
Жыл бұрын
I am entitled to a percentage of your dog ! *Chops off two limbs from the puppy*
A few years ago we broke down with our crappy little 25hp outboard engine on an inflatable boat maybe 1 mile off the coast of croatia. So we yelled at some other guy nearby with a similar setup if he could drag us home which he ofc did. So yeah pretty similar story, but I'm grateful he didn't demand our toolbox and 2 sandwiches afterwards.
@dylanherrera5395
4 ай бұрын
Damn! I'd be sad if I lost such a fortune like that too!
@miproduction6196
Ай бұрын
You better knock on wood, because there’s no expiration date! Hell be at your door in a couple weeks here! Hell he’ll take that too!
Now I need to figure out how to sink ships…
@notaplic8158
Жыл бұрын
No...
@ImBeezer
Жыл бұрын
Yes.....
@k1dtw1st
Жыл бұрын
Bot
@naturesguard8745
Жыл бұрын
a well placed torpedo has been known to do the trick
@h7opolo
Жыл бұрын
loose lips might...
There was an incident several years ago in the UK where a lot of cargo containers fell off a ship and washed up on a beach. Locals then "salvaged" the contents of many of these containers. In the end I do believe under UK maritime law it was considered "pure salvage" and those who had taken goods from these containers were entitled to a salvage fee of around 10% of the value of the goods. Which was a nice little bonus for a few lucky beachcombers who had managed to get something valuable out of a container.
@spookydirt
Жыл бұрын
was that the one with people driving away on the BMW motorbikes they'd salvaged?
@Croz89
Жыл бұрын
@@spookydirt Someone managed to get some quad bikes I believe.
@somethinglikethat2176
Жыл бұрын
Important to remember that you need to register your claim with the insurance company of the ship.
@laratheplanespotter
Жыл бұрын
I remember that!
@Croz89
Жыл бұрын
@@trollolol705 With salvage contracts you'd price in the cost of recovery, with pure salvage if it's not worth recovering it doesn't get recovered. In this case since the costs were only the time of a few beachcombers, the salvage fee is generally worth it.
Now you just need to do a video explaining the legal differences between flotsam, jetsam, lagan and derelict cargo.
@40below1000
Жыл бұрын
Flotsam = cargo washed overboard "floats" away. Jetsam = Cargo intentionally thrown overboard (jettisoned) by the crew to lighten the boat
@ferretyluv
Жыл бұрын
Not sure about derelict cargo, but I know the other three. Flotsam fell off the boat, jetsam was thrown off the boat, and lagan is stuff thrown or fallen off the boat that’s on the sea floor.
@zrspangle
Жыл бұрын
@@ferretyluv derelict is cargo where there's no reasonable expectation of being able to recover it.
It also works for airplanes. In 1983 a fighter jet from the RAF got lost and landed on a container vessel. The crew of the vessel was awarded 570 000 British pounds.
@ferretyluv
Жыл бұрын
That must have been a long container ship if a fighter jet could use it as a landing strip.
@johnadler6987
Жыл бұрын
@@ferretyluv Could've been a Harrier.
@ferretyluv
Жыл бұрын
@@johnadler6987 I was thinking of that as I was writing, but were those out in 83?
@JustAnotherRandomPersonOnline
Жыл бұрын
@@ferretyluv I believe so, yes. (at least a quick google search seems to say yes?)
@mistertagnan
Жыл бұрын
@@ferretyluv yes, they were introduced in the late 60s and continued serving until the early 2000s (in some cases)
As an Italian American, I endorse the boat-driving joke. I'd note that Christopher Columbus was an Italian, but that really only helps your case.
@rincwind666
Жыл бұрын
Maybe he had the good sense to not actually do the driving at least
@dgpsf
Жыл бұрын
Check it out, guys! It's-a India!
@zaphod4245
Жыл бұрын
"As an Italian American", so... an American
@michaelvick2872
Жыл бұрын
@@zaphod4245 you don’t understand how immigration works?
@marsovac
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelvick2872 it is not that, the joke was on "italian american" something that an american has on OCD on specifying both countries. italians would just say italian or american.
"It's legitimate salvage!" is the maritime version of "I'm a legitimate businessman!"
@SuprSBG
Жыл бұрын
Accidental “The Expanse” reference?
@SebAnders
Жыл бұрын
@@SuprSBG Not intended but fully endorsed, The Expanse is a great series
This is very cool, Sam. Thank you for the legal advice.
Ah, I see Ben's working through the list of rejected Crime Spree laws again. Edit: in my defense, I said this before I finished watching it, and did not expect the Crime Spree reference at the end.
@Speedster___
Жыл бұрын
Nah that’s Adam
@unidentifiedperson1357
Жыл бұрын
hey i remember you from hermitcraft recap
@soundscape26
Жыл бұрын
@@romangiertych5198 Admittedly I never watch the credits but does Sam ever write anything?
@soundscape26
Жыл бұрын
@@romangiertych5198 Yes, I know he should be the main (sole?) scriptwriter at Wendover but I curious if he ever wrote any episodes for HAI. Maybe at the very beginning.
“At sea there is no such thing as weird behavior”
@wraithcadmus
Жыл бұрын
"It's okay if it's underway"
@somethinglikethat2176
Жыл бұрын
Below 40 degrees south there is no law; below 50 degrees south there is no god.
me on my way to be a legal pirate
@mastershooter64
Жыл бұрын
okay jack sparrow
@Sparticulous
Жыл бұрын
Keep careful as the coast guard can still blast you out of the ocean.
@matthew_natividad
Жыл бұрын
Also checkout the epic how to be a pirate
@idkwhybut...
Жыл бұрын
"I believe you mean privateer"
Sam I loved the video! rarely does admiralty law get enough love. Two things I wanted to add. First marine peril does not have to be actual. Marine peril can just be the apprehension of peril, like in Markakis v. SS Volendam. This cases had a disabled cruise ship being towed in reasonably calm water to avoid shallow water and the Cuban navy. Second, the 6.4 million was not the final number. That was what the trial court ruled, later that number got reduced on appeal to 4.125 due to a whole re-evaluation of the rocket. see Margate Shipping Co. v. MV J.A. Orgeron. Keep making great videos!
@mnxs
Жыл бұрын
Correction, it is _Volendam,_ not _Voldendam_ (which, on a side note, is not not be confused with the Dutch ocean liner from the 1920s of the same name). How do I know? Because I googled the case to find out what it was about with the Cuban Navy. And congratulations, you just casually referenced a case that seems so obscure, the only results that came back are the Google Scholar reproductions of the actual court documents. I'm impressed.
“At sea, there’s no such thing as weird behavior” sums up a ton of maritime traditions, laws and outfits.
My dad and my uncle did this many years ago. A pleasure craft had torn the moorings in a heavy wind, and they went out in a boat and towed it in. They got a certain percentage of the pleasure crafts value. The owner was quite angry to have to pay that, but otherwise the boat might have ended up in some rocks somewhere so that's real peril.
But as long as you’re not the one that caused said ship to sink, right?
@notaplic8158
Жыл бұрын
Yes chief
@sirel33
Жыл бұрын
_Right?_
@chwriter7138
Жыл бұрын
as long as they can't PROVE you're the one who caused said ship to sink
@prim16
Жыл бұрын
@@chwriter7138 *Hey Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today*
@sephikong8323
Жыл бұрын
The law only apply if they're fast enough to witness you do it
States in the great lakes area have similar laws for salvaging. Usually someone drives their vehicle over an ice covered body of water. The vehicle, shanty, falls through and the owner has 3 days to get the item out and face fines for pollution depending on what fell through the ice. Usually after 3 days the item is available for anyone to salvage and keep as their own even without a title.
An answer to the question "What would happen if we let an Italian drive a boat?" Cue flashback to the first Punic War.
@TheCheck999
Жыл бұрын
A man of culture I see.
@wraithcadmus
Жыл бұрын
Even the more Romaboo channels I follow all go "yeah the Romans couldn't sail for shit"
@scythal
Жыл бұрын
Remember that one Italian guy who landed on the wrong continent thinking it was India... who was it...?
It triggered me that it was referred to as a weird old law because we have a similar rule in the law here in Germany: Anyone who conducts the business of another without authorization to protect their rights has a claim against them. Through this video, I did some research and found out that such a law exists only in some legal systems.
This it well explained. I occasionally have to go over this with smaller boats and paid salvage/tow boats. The in danger part is always the sticking point. Someone broken down is not in danger-but some “salvage” boats will try to tell them that darkness automatically means danger.
My husband is big on history and piracy in general. He has a Jolly Roger tattoo for crying out loud. Any time I think he’s underhanded in a game or something he just smiles and goes, “Pirate.” This video is going to make his day. 😂
@bullzebub
Жыл бұрын
has he heard ye banished privateers?
@bullzebub
Жыл бұрын
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When I was studying marine engineer, we were taugh some maritime law and case history too. One in particular involved a crew abandoning ship due to some issue (I think a storm?) And once the storm subsided they saw the ship was still okay. So they went back on and claimed it as salvage.
Some jurisdictions have a restriction on open salvage of derelict vessels. In Canadian waters if you get an abandoned vessel into safety so it is not a hazard to the environment or navigation you are limited to getting your costs incurred back. The "derelict fleets" dotting many waterways would be easy to clear out with this, drag them to a shipyard and get them hauled out and stored on the yard, the fuel costs for the tow, the haulout cost and storage costs ( ever increasing storage costs so it needs to be resolved quickly ) are the recoverables. If it sits on the yard long enough complete title is granted as it's value is the same or less than your expenses. Check your local laws for things like that, you can get rid of those falling apart boats anchored in a lot of areas if they have similar regs.
I haven't been following it, but I read a while ago that the firm that unblocked the Seuez canal after the ever given famously blocked it also did so without a contract and it seemed they were going to claim part of the value of the cargo. Don't know whether they ended up doing so tho.
1:45 "We do not endorse the previous joke. Half as Interesting supports all Italians"
“Ferb, I know what we’re gonna do today!”
Please write out 100 times, "Salvage is not theft."
@somethinglikethat2176
Жыл бұрын
Like many things in life, consent is important.
1:39 Wonderful.
"we just let the pirate steal it since they were going to anyways"
Philippines had close to 2000 cargo ships beached during the Odette typhoon. more than 900 spilled oil within a week. was one of the biggest maritime oil spills in South East Asia last Dec 2022
Your videos have so much more personality, great content as always :)
There's another weird maritime law: Back in the early 2000's, there was a ship anchored in Table Bay off Cape Town South Africa. A heavy wind came up, and Port Control radioed the ship to warn them that they are dragging their anchors. The captain of the ship's response was "Don't tell me my job, I'm far too clever!" And so it came to pass that the massive ship beached itself and the captain packed his back and got a cab to the airport and sayonara'ed outta there. So now there was a massive containership on the beach, and nobody wanted to foot the bill to yank it off. The owners were some US corporation, and I'm not sure what the story with the insurers was. There was hazardous cargo which included explosives, low-pressure gas and corrosive acids, antimony and uranium ore. And so the ball was kicked around between various government departments, and authorities and nothing happened. At this point, the cargo was still on it, and since it was a huge ship there were a lot of people who had cargo on the ship and they were all begging anybody who would listen to please tow the ship off the beach. Eventually some of the cargo was magic'ed off the ship (not an easy job due to location or whatever) and the fuel oil was pumped out. So there was a huge bill for cleanup and unloading the cargo and cutting up the ship because it was on that beach where everybody takes the pics of Table Mountain from when they need to prove to Facebook that they were in Cape Town. So who's gonna pay? So high powered lawyers get involved, probably funded by the insurers, and they dredge up an ancient maritime law that says everybody who owns cargo on the ship is responsible. Say what? So a whole bunch of Capetonians and companies and such got a bill and had to pay. How about flogging the victims? I can't find confirmation that the cargo owners were stuck with the bill, but that was definitely what I remember. Check it out - Sealand Express.
@kaimuller169
Жыл бұрын
pretty sure that everyone got had stuff on the evergiven also had to pay part of the cost of that desaster as well due to some kind of similiar law
@dougerrohmer
Жыл бұрын
@@kaimuller169 Yeah, it's nuts. The captain was warned, he screwed up and hit the airport so fast it made your head spin.
The fake brick advertisement at 5:57 is why I keep watching this show. Long live the bricks!
Surprisingly concise and well written. Just finish my law report on salvage. Maybe you can talk about maritime lien as well
It seems like maritime salvage laws fulfil the same function as squatter's rights laws - it encourages messy situations to be cleaned up. Salvage provides an incentive to rid the ocean of abandoned ships, squatter's rights provides an incentive to rid the land of abandoned dwellings.
Lloyd’s Open Form hasn’t been no cure no pay since like the 80s. Every LOF has the SCOPIC added since then. It’s not a “it sometimes happens”. Now every contract has the SCOPIC for pollution remediation. You can also have a Wreck Hire, Wreck Fixed, lumpsum, daily hire, time & materials, and other contract types.
Friend of mine got salvage money after a group of kids rescuing an sailboat who was adrift and was close to running aground. They towed it to an marina. Some there called insurance companies. Think he got around $3K back in the 80's so serious money for an kid.
Time to become a superhero who sinks ships and then rescues them right afterwards
@kpolitis6958
Жыл бұрын
I have the perfect place for you...go to ukraine
2:40 Byzantine playing some Civ 5 I see
Little known fact, if you steal something from an airplane before it hits the ground and explodes, you can keep that shit too
@Krisjoverovovejovovichtski
3 ай бұрын
So you do some james bond parachute outta there before it lands
Actually the helmsman of Costa Concordia was a an Indonesian migrant who had lied about his qualifications. The Italian Captain was not at the wheel.
Here's one for the annual "mistakes we've made" episodes, and yeah I'm gonna be that guy : 0:11 is that really how you spell "Posiedon"?
@estebancamacho2282
Жыл бұрын
this has got to be on the 2023 mistake compilation xD
@hanshyttinen9966
Жыл бұрын
He managed to misspell both Poseidon and Orgeron.
-Purposefully sink ship containing Arizona Green Teas -Loot all the Arizona Green Teas -??? -Drink the sweet nectar of the gods until diabeetus has it's way with you
I love how you went from a video about pillaging straight in to "half as interestings crime spree" 😂😂😂
This is a complex issue. It depends on the maritime area it sinks. In the US, we have local state waters, federal waters, and international waters. You have to be certain of which salvage lawset you are under when you salvage the ship.
Where's Legal Eagle when we need him?
@SpeedBird6780
Жыл бұрын
I don't think he specializes in maritime law.
@mfmageiwatch
Жыл бұрын
No one ever needs Legal Eagle, he's a hack.
Now I just need to figure out how to legally sink a ship
🎶 Yourrrrr’e a crook Captain Hook Judge won’t you throw the book At the Piiiirate... 🎶
Great video THank you
1:42 There goes the Italy season of JetLag 🤣
I’d heard of this but never knew all the details. Somebody called it “pirate law” but didn’t know all the details
This not only applies to ocean going vessels but if Sea Tow or the others get your boat hooked up for any reason you are paying them and it can be up to 800 bucks.
That Italian joke fell flat because…well Venice. Now if you said let an Italian drive a ship without using a stick
Random thing to learn on a Friday morning, but kinda interesting. Like not fully interesting like a video about bricks would be, maybe.. half as interesting. 😊
I fully expected a comment about the average flight speed of an unladen swallow at some point, but despite that disappointment (such is life), full marks. Well done.
In the future you might be able to salvage a Martian Naval ship as legitimate salvage.
I want a reddit AMA with the folks on the oil tanker who got the salvage money.
really funny story behind that Costa Concordia, i really recommend watching Internet Historian's video on it
Lol I wouldnt call it too obscure, at least within the maritime field. I had test questions about pure salvage on my Chief Mate exams I took last week. I also know a guy who is captain of a salvage ship, that industry is very much alive today.
Does the money go to the company that owns the ship involved in the salvage, or does it go to the captain and the crew involved?
So i just need to legally sink a sheep now, hmmm that's a little too easy
well time to try this now
"no such thing as weird behaviour" at sea really explains ben and adam's cream trip...
Now I need a video on how the crew didn't get any of the payout on how the form that owned the tanker got all the money. Because you know that's what happened.
Hehe. PosIEdon. Time to update that mistake list EDIT: 0:12
@samiraperi467
Жыл бұрын
Also: 0:12 J. A. Oregeron, 3:04 J. A. Orgeron Dunno which is correct but at least one of them is wrong.
imagine you save a ship and they say gj buddy, but you were also on our ship that was about to kill you too, so because you saved yourself we wont reward you
The most unusual salvage claim I know of was in WWII when a merchant vessel was attacked and a fire got out of control, so the captain gave the order to abandon ship. After a few days in life boats some of the crew sighted the ship which was still afloat and the fires had burned themselves out. They eventually were able to claim salvage as the captain was not part of the salvage efforts, there was a legitimate reason to abandon ship and they had obeyed orders when abandoning ship.
My friends and I jokingly call the Coast Guard the Puddle Pirates. Lol
So, if I was on one of those casinos they float on the Mississippi river to get around gambling laws and somehow it mysteriously catches on fire or starts to sink, would I be able to grab whatever I wanted, bounce, then keep whatever I grabbed once I'm off?
hi sam!! love ur vids!!!
This is so reminiscent of South Park's "It was coming right for us!" Justification.
Did the crew get the money or the owner if the ship?
I suggest we don't give people that already seem detached from existence some assumptions that someone can sink a ship and plunder it
There was a fun salvage case in the 60s when a USAF B-52 carrying nuclear weapons crashed off the coast of Spain. A local fisherman found one of the bombs and asked for a modest 1% finder's fee--on a $2 billion value. (They settled out of court for probably a lot less and supposedly never paid up. I don't know for certain, but I wonder if one of the counterarguments was "you know what, keep it, it's yours... which makes you a nuclear armed non-state actor. best of luck with that.")
3:51 I want to see this as an scp now 🤣
@0:50 StarSector Admirals represent!
Guess Sam read the book “In Peril” and it gave him the idea to make this video about the situation lol
“Their official job to guard coasts” hahaha..
And that oil tanker will play hell getting someone to help them in the future.
@tisjester
Жыл бұрын
Why? The same rule would be in play for them. If someone comes to their aid then they would get awarded salvage just the same. As a result of their action, Strong and his crew were awarded the American Merchant Marine Seamanship Trophy. They put themselves and their boat at great risk to rescue the Tug and cargo. The suit was due to how to determine the value of the ET-70 tank as there is no open market value - that had to be determined by a court.
Finally a new career prospect
Question: was the amount awarded to the boat that helped the other boats by a court given to the company that owned the boat or to the employees who worked at the boat to help the boat in danger? Like, in those cases, is the sum awarded to the people who literally helped, or to the company that employs the people who literally helped?
Purser: why are you looting the ship is sinking?? Passenger: I’m not looting I’m salvaging!
Main thing keeping me off nebula is the lack of a TV app. Hate watching content while sitting on my desk
@petergerdes1094
Жыл бұрын
I hate the lack of ability to create playlists and the fact that I can't just listen to audio without the miniplayer on iOS (and everytime I close phone to just listen I have to hit play again)
So basically theres still some validity to becoming a seafaring adventurerer
2:23 I can confirm that weird behavior is perfectly normal: source, I’m sailing on a cargo ship right now.
Next time they move a Space Shuttle overseas on a ship, you know where you will find me.
Well a sociopathy diagnosis not a psychopathy diagnosis, at least till direct harm to others are considered.
It's hardly obscure, it's been the mainstream rule of abandoned stuff floating at sea since forever. Enshrining it in law was just recognising that very little could stop fishermen stealing abandoned stuff in the mdidle of nowhere with no witnesses and finding a way to tax it.
@fakiirification
5 ай бұрын
yeah, this law simply encourages people to report their findings rather than stripping them for everything of value and scuttling the rest that cant be resold without documentation like hull resgestration, etc.
Pelican Soup. I'm dieing 😂😂
@2200stiffy
Жыл бұрын
PELLICAN SOUP!
@TheAres1999
8 ай бұрын
So are the pelicans
SAM YOU DIDNT DESERVE THE SEASON 8 WIN
I thought Sam had a stroke trying to say "Oregon"
Ahh, I beg to differ, I can save my ass or save your boat, and if I save both, bet your ass is going to pay me...
I'd be shocked if that tanker crew got any of that salvage payment.
I feel like this nebula ad is directly trying to combat Linus’s comments on the platform
Wow, very cool. Maritime law is so weird, and so interesting.
@apveening
Жыл бұрын
Maritime law is so weird because it evolved over centuries with lots of legal systems involved.