Why you are high skill, but low MMR
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In this video, Jenkins talks about the #1 problem with people who are actually really good at the game, but are ruining their MMR with bad hero picks.
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@nischalvyas3245
2 жыл бұрын
Yo
@barbossa9254
2 жыл бұрын
Allo
@ralecosue
2 жыл бұрын
Sup?
@CityColourr
2 жыл бұрын
Hi
@aslightlydisappointingsala6414
2 жыл бұрын
ALLO?
So professional but the cuts of Jenkins smirking at his computer…*chef’s kiss*
@classicheraldgameplays5364
2 жыл бұрын
That's how i look at dota 2. 😇
@abigailjean7375
2 жыл бұрын
Shit so corny, it works like heck LMAO
@Necroneer
2 жыл бұрын
So random but so good somehow.
@julianaharmatiuk2662
2 жыл бұрын
Perfect
Those camera shots of Jenkins just smiling and nodding are pure gold.
@TenebrisSolus
2 жыл бұрын
Reminded me of Cole Phelps from "L.A Noire"
this level of production value is not the diet pepsi pudge picker that we know
@MyNameIsThe_Sun
2 жыл бұрын
Yes she should be given oscar for thie production
@Kryptnyt
2 жыл бұрын
This is the fabled Get-Jacked Pepsi at work
6:24 "... because they thing they need to sacrifice their game as a pos 5." That reminds me of the vidro Jenkins did on what defines roles and what personality trait you need for those roles And he very correctly defined the pos 5 role as "strategic"! Not sacrificing. Not resigning. Not serving the team. Strategic!!! For very good reasons!
@Ninjat126
2 жыл бұрын
Pos5 is a role with a lot of CONTROL to it. Your cores can't afford to miss farm, so you're setting the pace of your lane. You need to decide when to harass, when to pull, when to pressure for a kill, when to roam, when to stack. As the game goes on your cores come online, but you're still a major pace-setter. You're most likely in charge of your team's vision, which will determine what order you take objectives in. If you've got saves, you decide who lives. If you've got disables, you decide who dies.
@chocolatecandycake
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ninjat126 only if your team allows it. They may just buy wards and plant them in selfish positions for themselves to farm and other teammates blame you for no vision. They may just fight and die before you can save them then blame you. They may just let you die when you disable someone on the enemy team, then blame you.
@CrizzyEyes
2 жыл бұрын
Team captains in comp are very often position 5 for this reason.
"My friend mmr is just number nothing special" - *friends who always declines my invite*
"People generally know what their roles should do." Doubt.
@randomf2pplayah768
2 жыл бұрын
💀
@chaz-e
2 жыл бұрын
_"generally"_
@antoniospappas2575
2 жыл бұрын
There is knowing and there is doing.
@silversrayliegh5924
2 жыл бұрын
Archon here. Not seen offlaner on my team pick an offlane since the 18th century. It ranges from OD to Midas ogre to huskar to wk always. 100% out of these or similar non-offlane heroes. Help please.
@edwinselvaraj8323
2 жыл бұрын
@@silversrayliegh5924 lol same happened to me so i started playing strength offlane heroes myself. it's easy to carry with them cuz nobody really counters regen and tankiness in archon every game
Hey Kenkins! Dude, I've discovered your channel like 2 weeks ago and I'm loving it! The analysis and the fun there, making people realize that the main objective of DotA is to HAVE FUN. Crazy Builds, your "complements" about the "rare" performance of a player is so genuine! Really different and awesome and even wholesome content right there. To end, just wanna say that i'm downloading DotA 2 again feeling special being a noob because of the hug that you give to the "noob players". Thanks a lot! :D
On this topic, a video idea: a tier list of the heroes that fit these descriptions best (best “Mario” heroes for each role, best scaling heroes for each role, etc). Love the videos and streams!
@exzenosisharbingaar9000
2 жыл бұрын
at 0:12 you can briefly see him gauging offensive heroes usefulness like he was trying to describe. I too wish to see that. I've dropped out of Dota 2 since the Source 2 update and don't really wanna pick up again despite wanting to play Techies again now that I got a better PC for that
@iMost067
2 жыл бұрын
Literally anything that can "somehow" stay the lane and be valuable with 1-2 cheap items. As example DK need only blink to have almost 100% gurantee 3,5 seconds stun on initiation, he can organise some push with ulty and maxed passive, and he generaly dont suffer on lane unless its something crazy like carry axe. Other examples would be Axe, Pango, Centaur, Spirit Breaker, Tide, Earth Spirit.
@Nilbez
2 жыл бұрын
I would watch this. there needs to be more ranking videos.
@Mirddes
Жыл бұрын
@@exzenosisharbingaar9000 whats wrong with source2?
@exzenosisharbingaar9000
Жыл бұрын
@@Mirddes My computer at the time couldn't handle the new engine and made it barely playable even on the lowest settings possible.
i kinda like this new edition and camera angles, the final work looks way more interesting and funny
Oh hey, look, it’s the video I’ve been waiting for my entire Dota career.
@rohantewari2367
2 жыл бұрын
That makes two of us sir
@BigDBrian
2 жыл бұрын
if you think you're high skill low mmr you just don't understand the game as well as you think you do
@rohantewari2367
2 жыл бұрын
@@BigDBrian I dont think I'm high skill low MMR...but I do agree with the point he makes that heros that work in pro games or pro pubs dont work in my games...
@BigDBrian
2 жыл бұрын
@@rohantewari2367 yeah I'm not disagreeing with the video itself
This is the kinda content I was looking for. Great speculation on a wide variety of topics. You explained it in pro level. Loved your content GIGACHAD👍
Honestly one of the best guides ever created, everyone needs to know this
Really ,really great analysis Jenkins. I have 11k hours and still a 2k player. Yes i play 11 games in a row till i get tired and lose all gained mmr but you nailed it. You really nailed it: a self-sacrificial coordination-relied non-scaling support is not gonna win games even if you played well. And that in turn will frustrate and tilt you, which will make you lose even more mmr. Thanks for giving me the clarity of direction and thought
I am always looking forward to Jenkins video as he is super informative and his description is easy to understand. Keep up the good work!
Production value is god tier, but I miss the "hello friends (self depricating statement) here!"
@Somerandomegamer
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if we had both
@Mggggssss
2 жыл бұрын
i miss donny
Better term for"Mario" heroes are proactive picks. Those that can be first picked, are self sufficent and aren't hard countered by many heroes. Something like Broodmother would be a reactive pick - extremely good if enemy doesn't counter it, awful if they do. In pubs people often first pick reactive heroes and get dumpstered even before the game begins.
Thanks for the content Jenkins!
Love the production quality on this one homie, keep at it
Hey Jenkins I've watched a lot of your videos and this one really impressed me, loved your energy man!
Ngl I'd like to see an elaboration on mario heroes for each role.
@alwaysradical1613
2 жыл бұрын
For support, I find dark Willow is always viable. He mentions shadow shaman. Lotta people say jakiro or cm. I like puck as well for about any position, if you know how to play puck. Juggernaut is a good Mario carry.
@shigerufan1
2 жыл бұрын
ET is usually played support in competitive, but can actually carry really well with just echo, silver edge, and BKB thanks to his W buff and passive. Plus, even if you don't manage to get those items his abilities still allow him to impact the game anyway. Plus it's funny to watch agi carries die in two hits from his briefcase.
Jenkins smiling at the screen is literally me watching a Jenkins video.
Great video, would you share your thoughts on what you consider to be those types of heroes for each role outside of SS?
Great video. Very well explained and I like the new professional looking editing style.
I always knew that me and my 72hours of dota were high skill anyway now I just need to get 100hrs and get that high mmr I deserve with my monkey king support
@tacokoneko
2 жыл бұрын
hi
@nithinsid9547
2 жыл бұрын
Hello herald 🤪
@nitinshooter
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely herald... Hahahahha...
@sesshonuyasha
2 жыл бұрын
you rock go ahead and get that solar crest with blink dagger bro; i believe in you sincerely a jakiro and centaur mid player :)
@rev9115
2 жыл бұрын
go meme hammer 1st item .... I've lost 5 game streak for mk supp but only a chosen one such as you can make it work ... carry on the legacy young lad
i like the different style u got on this video
Very nice, made my work day so much better. Thanks for the content Jenkins
Hey Jenkins, just subbed, nice video. You should make a tier list video for heroes that work in this way. That would be interesting to watch. :)
Thanks Jenkins! Lots of tips learned. Also learned arcane boots. Disassemble to Aether. Always great tips! More power
I would have loved some more examples of heroes that scale or mario heroes for each role, as I am relatively new/noob. But good vid thx
@thecipher8495
2 жыл бұрын
Roles Carry - PA, juggernaut, Bristleback, medusa Support - Jakiro, lion, shadow shaman, CM
A really great one! Thanks for the video!
Thank you for being concise and honest. The dota pub scene is an absolute nightmare and you offer the occasional bonfire to rest between fights.
First time hearing about mario heroes 🤣 Thanks for this
That opening statement is the whole Wyvern mid in a nutshell When it shines so much as pos3 rather than 2 (in my bracket)
@farizcerberus8331
2 жыл бұрын
Crusader/archon ? I find it very funny when i picking a hard carry strength hero that have everything like ck, wk and kunka always owning my enemy in offlane until they call all of their team only for killing me
@LordofPotatos
2 жыл бұрын
@@farizcerberus8331 Ancient 4 😔
This is exactly how I feel playing support in pubs by the time I get to the late game I feel so irrelevant. Great Video quality!
That first minute was just beautiful. You just described a problem in SOOOO many games with an esports scene.
As a "Legendary" herald V player...I always start early game as support...but later need to change the whole build to full tanker because pubs loves to pick 4 carry.. no need tanker/support.. to make it even worst.. with full items.. your hope the 4 Carry that had farm the whole game.. end up feeding 1 by 1 from ganks. No buy backs.. just purely waste of time.
@thanaka8416
2 жыл бұрын
I feel you. Yesterday i lost 400 mmr. Down from guardian 4 to guardian 1 ... Drow first item euls scepter and second item blade mail. Medusa first item blade mail, second item linkens sphere. Wondering why they cant kill ... and of course its the supports fault.
@ibnelaiq
2 жыл бұрын
@@thanaka8416 Same here, My Safelane picked ORGE. -_-
@psd993
2 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as tanker independent of networth difference. Tide with boots, vanguard, and blink at 10 min is almost unkillable. The same hero with those at items at 30min can barely survive. So you will be a lousy "tanker" after starting at pos 5 and trying to become the offlaner 20 min later.
@izack2781
2 жыл бұрын
@@psd993 just wanna say that, damage block from tide's kraken shell and vanguard dont stack, so its a useless item for him
@pandalah
2 жыл бұрын
@@psd993 agree to disagree.
"Offlane builds Aura items" Me, Offlane player: "What the fuck is an Aura Item?"
@oyuyuy
2 жыл бұрын
I don't even know why he said that tbh. The only offlaner that consistently buys auras in this meta is Brood and she's only picked in 7k+ anyway. The most popular offlaners are Mars, Axe DK and SK. Neither buys any auras in any bracket.
@DellaVas
2 жыл бұрын
@@oyuyuy Almost all of these heroes can buy itens that provides utility for his team, and that was what he's trying to say. U can build assault, halberd, atos, pipe, sheevas and so on. U don't do it "only for you", you see? Is always to counter or give some utility.
You, nice video, i were needed some time to learn this, back in the days when i played dota, "the guys" teached me it, and i later knew what hero do what to be able to play like this, thats awesome that you telling people how to play in such nice and easy to study way!
Hey Jenkins did you make this for gamersclass? I got this video as an ad a week or two ago.
Jenkins please I need the Dragonclaw hook to feed my wife and kids we are literally starving and living inside a dumpster also love the new style
@default2591
2 жыл бұрын
He already give it away
@imbrand5040
2 жыл бұрын
@@default2591 guess my family's gonna star- oh wait they're already dead oh well
@C0wsmacker
2 жыл бұрын
@@imbrand5040 Now they no longer consume both your food nor your internet cafe fund rations.
@JustYesntMan
2 жыл бұрын
Take their bones and make your own hook
@sleep3417
2 жыл бұрын
Stop spending on gacha and you'll have enough for all those dragonclaw hooks
A perfect video for me damn
Been watching you for some time now and this video got my full respect for you Jenkins. Because this is one of the biggest issues I have encountered in most character team based games like Dota, LoL, Overwatch etc. This is literally the unspoken truth.
I really needed these advices, thanks.
Jenkins: Why you are high skill but low mmr. Speed: You have low mmr because you don't have gameleap subscription. BSJ: You have low MMR because you belong there, you aren't as good as you think you are. 🤣
even in low 5k my games dont really tend to last very long, and im pretty sure the average 8k pub is like 30 minutes. this video seems to be catered to lower level players but you tried to universalize it in a way that doesnt really seem to be correct, im not sure why.
@farrel_ra
2 жыл бұрын
Agree, but what he means is in pub, in the end it would be better to prolong the games, for a good reasons: late game war tends to end in 3 to 5 man wipe, and thats when buyback starts coming in. Those buybacks creating a gold gaps, and in the end the team with high gold lead would win the war easier and push faster after that. The keyword here is "chaos", since most of the times we hv low to zero coordination starting from drafting phase. This would be different if u playing with ur frens or one team counter the others pretty hard.
Was an eye opener jenkins.. Thanks alot. I'm gonna start doing it from today
The editing is fantastic! Prime work here
finally i understand everything in pubs, now lets play pudge! :D
A better example for a “generic” character is the Ryu. That’s the archetype/lingo that everybody uses in FGC, and it predates Mario in Smash.
@SecureLemons
2 жыл бұрын
Florida Gateway College?
@PANICWORKS
2 жыл бұрын
Not to be that guy, but that's the Shoto. And yes, Shoto characters are probably the most well rounded characters in the FGC, its an apt description for Mario heroes.
@defearl
2 жыл бұрын
@@SecureLemons the Fighting Game Community
@defearl
2 жыл бұрын
@@PANICWORKS Incorrect. Ryu is a shoto, but not all shotos are Ryu. Shoto is a subcategory of characters that wield a fireball, an uppercut, and a tatsu, but that doesn't make them all a "jack of all trades" which is what Ryu is designed to be. Akuma is a shoto, but he's far, far from jack of all trades; in fact he's a glass cannon whose weaknesses easily get taken advantage of by the competent opponent.
Hey Jenkins, Watched a lot of your videos, you talking about a lot of useful stuff , still wonder what is your ranking (mmr) ?
Good tips Jenkins, thanks!
Jenkins more like Chickens
All this is why Winter Wyvern is my main. Shes always usefull. She scales with the enemy team, as well as your own. And shes very flexible in the items you can build on her. Only two problems are that shes not a good farmer, and that she absolutely needs coordination. Cause both you or your team can realy mess up if she ults or cold embrases in the wrong moments, or they react wrongly to her actions. Luckily, theres a voice chat. And luckily, I have an always maxed out behavior score, and get put together with people who dont abuse the mic xD
@ricobacalla7834
2 жыл бұрын
All ww supports i met are impostors lol
@twisted5039
2 жыл бұрын
winter wyvern clears waves just as fast as shaman does, she is one of the faster ones
@rev9115
2 жыл бұрын
WW supp i know are always camping T1 mid and spamming skill 2 ez farm they say
I am so Happy to see that you are making frequent videos in KZread love you Jenkins
Love the angles Jenkins
Dark Willow is the ultimate pub support. Can control the enemy 3 different ways, solo kill with bedlam, immunity from right-clickers (+ targeted spells) and level 25 attack speed with aghs is damage you can't ignore. Also, she has FIVE spells!!
Will anyone read my Luki x Masao hentai fanfic?
@jqa16
2 жыл бұрын
Wait you're a facebook bassist
Hey @Jenkins. Can you possibly list some of the top "Mario" supports (pos 4-5), and then some of the anti-top "Wario's"?
All players that play ranked need to see this, some of the best tips out there. Love your vids bro! :)
So it was pro player's fault all along?
XD
I was waiting on some kind of elaborated prank or plot twist due to all those creative camera angles. Mr Jenkins sir, you're a devilish teaser.
Thank u sir.....my MMR is growing just because of u 🤗 n i m subscribed to ur channel !
i want some carry advices all u said was about 5 and 3 like what is a mario hero for pos 1 or 2 or how can i pick good heroes in pos 1 i've been spamming TA and i had long lose streaks and i lost 1.5k mmr
Thanks. This is exactly what I have been thinking lately.
ayo jenkins video with some actual cinematography POG
Dang you’re correct, weird that this don’t happened in LoL often. I haven’t played LoL in years but I remembered their pub game end quick they always likes to fight and group up.
So Jenkins, what do you recommend when your offlaner picks an agi carry? play offlaner from safelane?
@nicolasoliveira4903
2 жыл бұрын
Report + Avoid
Had an ad with jenkins in it before this video
Cinematic shots of jenkins is just on another level.
Those close up camera shots, never realized how beautiful Jenkins eyes are. So dreamy!
Hi Jenkins, tks for e vid. Im from singapore playing sea server. Ask u, i used to play 5 but now transiting to 4. However, i have in alot of games see my 5 not doing their role n end up i hv to buy pos 5 items for the team n it damages my own item build. When i call them out, they rage.. wat can i do? Im in a divine bracket. Btw i hate bsj
I am SO happy someone finally discuss this. I had a huge argument on that on one of BSJ “how to play X hero” video ( i think it was slardar). He was suggesting to not pick certain items that make absolute sense in a game where you have a carry that will carry, a support that support and so on. In most of my games, if i play offlane i most likely HAVE to build as a carry if I have a decent lane. If I don’t, more time than not we lose. Slardar in a coordinated pro team and slardar in a archon pub game should not be played the same .You cannot rely as much on your teammate in pubs, they will do stupid things. People look at hero builds of pro game and think that’s how the hero must be played. Finally someone address this, it should be said more often.
Good insight. Thx!
I like the new quality editing :)
Hey,great work man.congrats for that but those shot of u smiling to your PC is super creepy
You mentioned Tiny in the offlane, do you have any tips for that? I’ve found tiny 3 to be fun but inconsistent when I tried it.
@mihaidinulica5133
2 жыл бұрын
He meant it as pos 4.
@Eko_Kats
2 жыл бұрын
The trick is that he did not specify if he talked about tiny offlane pos 4 or tiny offlane pos 3...
@melee5568
2 жыл бұрын
Tiny pos 3 is really good! Hero timing for that is Echo saber and blink. That's just it and aim back lines. You can mix it up with BKB and Daedalus or other items such as cuirass. Focus on grouping up with 4 and 5 since it can potentially kill someone instantly.
Ayy, this is hella fire. Much better than that other banana duuude
I like how everyone's so focusing on Jenkins' face rather the content he's talking abt LOL Good stuff btw!
I agree with this wholeheartedly, earlier I had my turbo pub game where the enemy was easy, they had a bunch of magic heroes and we had a good draft of carries and np. (I chose silencer) I noticed that we didnt had any support, so i said I'd go support which I did, however, the rest of our team didn't exactly take the role that they chose to be. We had a feeding TA whom I've given her a ton of early farm, but when the time came to fighting, would be either passive and watch or run away with FULL HP/MP alongside me (who was near death.) (Late game, ta would have nonsense items and kept buying and selling her blink dagger for no reason.) We had a NP who kept trying to push mid. Told him to push either off or safe, he would but 'only' when the enemy was there. (Also, he never once came to teamfight) We had a LC who kept starting fights without the group, never pinged, never said anything then after she solo fed, said "I pinged, team sux". (She had done this 3+ times.) Me trying my best to buy wards, trying to be a Pos 4. I was doing alright but I could never get the team to "group". And lastly, we had a Void who never once wanted to chrono. Would only chrono without the team to solo kill people. And would prefer to feed and fight with the lc rather than actually teamfight. Long story short, we lost and void/lc kept pointing each other the finger for who fed/was the most useless between the 2.
Instant like for the smirking at the screen creativity
This also works on many MOBA. That also kind of works in reverse but sometimes a good hero for pub is only references for Pro and work in reverse too. Nice advice
my boy jencums doing a good job editing his videos nicely done, now i have some ransom let me describe it for you, its bsj playing the hero pudge and losing in 9 mins and abandoning before being throned, you want it boy send me that dragon claw hook, ill send out that sweet sweet match id baby
i always waiting for u jenk
your videos are incredible man!
Sweet, thanks for this lil piece of knowledge.
Would be great with some examples of your opinion on picks which should be avoided in pubs as opposed to the pro meta.
Nicely done bro ... tbh this is a guide we wanted in true sense ... 😎😎
Hell yea, the quality of 100k++ subs production video
i dont think i deserve this production quality jenkins
This video is better because I can see more of Jen.
Nice video Jenkins! ty
A final point I would add is how do you survive when their hard carry gets bkb (think troll, pa, drow, etc). Have a pick or item or something to deal with them.
One of your best videos so far.
Love the new editing!
But what if i do all you said and my carry drow goes first item euls scepter and second item blade mail?
Jenkins, I got ban from rank 10 years. Is there any other way to save it?
i suggest you to make a video about item optimization too jenkins
Need more examples of versatile pos5 heroes and also "mario" heroes!) Great vid!