While the ideal solution is extending Los Angeles Union Station, the cost to upgrade the line from Rancho Cucamonga to LA Union Station would be just as expensive as building the line from Rancho Cucamonga to Las Vegas itself.

@Geotpf

17 күн бұрын

And this is the real reason. It's cheap to run a new train down the middle of a freeway. Past Rancho, there's no easy right of way. At a minimum, they would need to quad track much of the San Bernardino Metrolink line, in places where there simply isn't room to do so, which means buying and tearing down buildings near the tracks. Better to just piggyback on Metrolink to get people to Rancho.

@Lodai974

13 күн бұрын

@@Geotpf It is better to use the metrolink Riverside tracks which have fewer level crossings, which can be upgraded to 4 electrified tracks and which are more straight, by negotiating an extension of the tracks from Rancho station to the Ontario airport underground. if it is necessary.

@celebrityrog

13 күн бұрын

Don't over promise then. Don't disclose to the public that you will do something that you clearly haven't researched or got any permits, funds, or rights to do. Its pointless. It gets us all hyped up and when its underdelivered we see it as a waste of money. California HSR is one of those cases, Caltrain, BART are others. So I say unless ALL projects have 100% funding, 100% permits and are READY TO CONSTRUCT ON ANNOUNCEMENT then a law would ban them from disclosing ANYTHING until it can be completed in full as described. No more of this patchwork of shit. If that can't happen, then put it to a ballot vote. A ballot vote that will force that law.

@ianhomerpura8937

11 күн бұрын

​​@@celebrityrog it's just weird that every railway project in the US have these insane amount of bureaucratic paperwork, while new highway projects always pass through with ease.

@kyletopfer7818

9 күн бұрын

@@ianhomerpura8937 agreed it is irrational, have a look at Australia which in many respects has a Lot of similarities, but they have lots of electrified trains and spend about 2/3 as much on rail as they do on highways. Big difference! And they are doing all the planning for HSR to run all the way right into their central stations and serve where people want to go.

Extending HSR the 40 miles between Rancho Cucamonga and LA Union Station would probably cost as much as the entire Brightline West line, so there's that.

@JuanWayTrips

14 күн бұрын

Exactly. Brightline barely has the money to do their current plan (and that is with a lot of government support). Even last year, the plan was to terminate in Victorville until funding came through.

I love how the reporters asked the question about why it stops in RC instead of DTLA and then spent the entire video not answering it.

@thomaskim3128

6 күн бұрын

Click bait.

@chedder9999

4 күн бұрын

literality explains it starting at 00:36 even provides a maps ....

This doesn't explain why it doesn't go to Union Station... Which, to my understanding is: 1) Metrolink is resilient to change, especially electrification; and 2) There is only a single-track along the rail corridor. Double-tracking would allow Brightline into downtown without worry of delays to the schedule, and there could be vastly more service on the corridor, especially during rush hour, to promote people out of their cars by seeing those trains go by them every 8-15 minutes instead of 30-60...

@yaush_

13 күн бұрын

Double tracking would be a pretty expensive upgrade. The reality is that first of all if you want to get into downtown you can just take metro link but the major other factor is that most people in LA don’t live in downtown. In fact most business doesn’t even take place downtown. So while in most cities most people will want to travel near the city center, LA is extremely sprawling and dense everywhere so a lot of people might not even go through downtown in the first place. Edit: just to confirm, it is an absolutely necessary project to double track to union station, and electrify. However not everything needs to take place at the exact same time and brightline will still be perfectly feasible without it. The main thing that’s going to decide its success is wether or not metro link aligns its schedule with brightline arrivals and departures (which should be around the same time since it’s a terminal station)

@GraemeMacDermid

12 күн бұрын

The biggest challenge for North American infrastructure projects is getting right-of-way. Building alongside a freeway is fairly straightforward.

@airron5019

8 күн бұрын

I think your both missing that this is a private company not a government program. Its not about cutting your commute times its about getting tourists to Vegas with less headaches than a plane or roadtrip. Building into the city would wreck the margin.

@TheSonic10160

8 күн бұрын

@@airron5019 Getting to Union Station would make it easier for people to get on Brightline, since as a tourist staying in a CBD hotel or just flying into LAX and transferring straight to trains, it means once you get to Union Station, you're on the Brightline train and off to Vegas.

@GraemeMacDermid

7 күн бұрын

@@airron5019 It’s profitable because the right of way acquisition is straightforward.

Simplest reason, it would cost a lot of time and money just to clear a right of way for it. Plus its easy to reach Rancho for a huge portion of the population of So Cal and easy to build a large parking facility.

@TarulWarlord

7 күн бұрын

Every trick in the book to make this project fail. Mass transit system never work in this way. It's actually the opposite, cities are to be built around mass-transit system. This project is going to be a big fail and then everyone who didn't benefit from this project will then use it as an example of why HSR just doesn't work in the USA. Lack of foresight from the planners of this project is shocking.

@user-ov4mk9ox8y

6 күн бұрын

that entire Inland Empire of the valley needs a complete rebuilt anyway....and there's lots of land in all directions.

The terminus should be at San Bernardino's central station where multiple Metrolink lines converge with the sbX and Arrow transitways and with the future California High-Speed Rail to and from L.A. and San Diego.

@lyndakorner2383

20 күн бұрын

San Bernardino's central station also offers express trains to and from L.A. Union Station, and San Bernardino International Airport lies only 1.5 miles to the East. Additionally, the City of San Bernardino owns an adjacent 43-acre site of a former mall that is perfect for redevelopment and that has the room to accommodate high-speed rail running between Las Vegas and San Diego and that will cross the future East‐West line running between Los Angeles and Phoenix, potentially.

@sevshune

16 күн бұрын

Arrow is a stupid distraction the SBCTA uses so it can exploit the Pacific Electric Right of Way as a trail. Southern Pacific had control but somehow lost it to the county. single track standard guage. Route 66 goes underneath the Pacific Electric in fontucky.

Rancho should be the FIRST of several transfer stops, but the terminus should be Union Station in L.A. Downtown is where people want to go. From there, I can easily find my way elsewhere. I will be using this line & don't want to have to get off in R.C. to then wait on a Metro line that far away from the epicenter. It'll take forever to get to L.A. from R.C. and will be a waste of time (may as well drive!). There should also be an Express line option from Vegas straight to Union Station.

@mb32174

20 күн бұрын

Well good for you 👏

@Geotpf

17 күн бұрын

It's just one extra train. Union Station to Rancho then Rancho to Vegas.

@sevshune

16 күн бұрын

you are going to love Apple Valley

@jre617

10 күн бұрын

Yes, any transfer is very time consuming. RC is not the center of LA metro center, it's on the edge of it. There are four existing rail lines (including the BNSF double track main) between the Inland Empire and LA. Something could be worked out.

@brachiator1

7 күн бұрын

Downtown Los Angeles is not where people want to go. And certainly not Union Station. Most people on vacation would want to stay on the West Side, closer to the beaches and Universal Studios and maybe Hollywood. Or they would go to Anaheim and Disneyland. Los Angeles is too spread out.

It will be built on time because it’s going to Vegas. FYI, in Maryland, the Federal Railroad Administration paused a 5 year $28 million study in 2019 for a 40 mile Maglev train line between DC and Baltimore. After work on the study restarted, FRA initiated a second pause in 2021. Nearly three years into the current suspension, FRA says no updates available. Estimated cost is $18 billion. Japan pledged $5 billion toward the project. Northeast Maglev, private company leading the project, withdrew application in late December for a water quality certification from Md Dept of the Environment. MDE was going to reject the request, pointing to a bevy of missing details. Northeast Maglev intends to resubmit application after it acquires more engineering and design information. I bet LasVegas to Rancho Cucamonga is completed first.

@VegasElement

20 күн бұрын

I used to ride the Maglev in D.C. to VA all the time, Pentagon City mainly.

@mattkennedy6115

6 күн бұрын

@@VegasElementbefore or after you hit your crack pipe?

@ISpitHotFiyaa

3 күн бұрын

I bet the MagLev thing never gets completed at all.

The reporter didn't answer the question why it isn't going all the way to downtown. We already know what transfers can be done that was never in dispute. Why aren't we getting what we agreed to initially? And why is everyone in this state always okay with getting ripped off?

@nicksalgado22

20 күн бұрын

Bc A they know the California project to have first dibs. B building into DTLA is probably triple the budget of the RC to Vegas line. C why not wait until the state and fed ready to put money into the last leg of the project

@VegasElement

20 күн бұрын

@@nicksalgado22 They wouldn't be laying new tracks, they'd use the existing tracks to get to Union Station.

@trevorthefoamer220

20 күн бұрын

⁠@@VegasElementYou gotta make sure the track standards are met, as well as build electrification and grade separation. Not to mention Union Station will have to be upgraded fully, especially the platforms to provide level boarding, along with other infrastructure like electrification. So odds are they're gonna wait for CAHSR to actually go to LA and build a dedicated section for HSR. (But that will take 40 years because they aren't getting the proper funds in the first place) But at least it's better than not having high speed rail at all.

@tylerkochman1007

20 күн бұрын

What do you mean “we agreed to”? This is not part of the CA HSR project.

@NozomuYume

18 күн бұрын

Because it would be illegal. The US doesn't make high speed trains, which are lighter, and the crash standards are different. Trains in the rest of the world are designed to not crash, and crumple in a crash like your car does. US-made trains on the other hand are designed to be like tanks and just plow through anything they run into. You can't legally put global-standard trains on US tracks unless US trains are forbidden from those tracks. i.e. if they electrified the Metrolink line and put Brightline trains on it, Metrolink wouldn't be able to run its American-style trains on the line legally (and if the US train crashed into Brightline, the Brightline train would be obliterated).

They need to make the metro link run later times i think the last one from down town la to IE is at 1030pm

It's like buying a plane ticket to NY but the airline dropped you off and landed in NJ instead, as if to tell you, "Here you are, bud! You can go walk or take a cab to NY from here." I mean, isn't that what the people in LA and Vegas were asking for to begin with: a HSR to connect LA and Vegas (NOT Rancho Cucamunga and Vegas)?

@VegasElement

20 күн бұрын

Correct.

@andrewdiamond2697

14 күн бұрын

That's essentially what flying United to Newark is.

Just as long as we establish that any speed below 125mph is not "High-Speed".

perhaps because (with apologies to Mel Blanc) Anaheim and Azusa have uninteresting names

@jaminova_1969

7 күн бұрын

Sounds like some thing Mr. Benny would say!

@user-ov4mk9ox8y

6 күн бұрын

Living in Rancho means you never have to admit you're Cucamonga.

There's no luggage service on Metrolink

@Ven100

15 күн бұрын

Many commuter trains don't offer luggage service. Just bring your suitcase on the train with you.

@goldenstatedepartures

13 күн бұрын

@@Ven100 My comment is in response to the news reporter who claimed there would be luggage service to transfer suitcases from Brightline trains to Metrolink trains.

Awesome!

Contrary to some comments below, Metrolink owns a lot of track in Los Angeles and Orange Counties. The San Bernardino line through El Monte and Claremont is the former Pacific Electric San Bernardino line, and the rest, including the Rancho Cucamonga station, is the former Santa Fe passenger mainline. Unfortunately, there isn't room along most of the ex-PE line for more than one track. Hopefully, Brightline West spurs extension of the Line A light rail line to Claremont and Rancho Cucamonga, which currently ends at Azusa. Nearly all of Line A, from Los Angeles to Azusa, is the former Santa Fe passenger mainline. Metrolink takes about 74 minutes to go from Los Angeles to Rancho Cucamonga, but Metro's Line A provides good connections to places like Pasadena, and even downtown Los Angeles. The Metrolink ticket is $8.00 one-way, compared to $1.75 on Metro.

As a Chicago-area transplant to the Northeast Corridor, I stand flabbergasted. Seems there's a lot to still be worked out regarding LA's Metrolink, while between NYC and DC, mass-transit systems almost (understatement?) run together.

...Brightline, you can forget about $400 roundtrip. Are you kidding me? I fly roundtrip to LAX & back for $120. Less if I plan ahead.

@PelosiStockPortfolio

20 күн бұрын

$280 not to deal with the TSA might be worth it

@supertec2023

19 күн бұрын

​@@PelosiStockPortfoliowhat makes you think they won't have that type of system implemented also because it's a train?

@supertec2023

19 күн бұрын

Yeah in some places like in San Bernardino you can fly to Vegas for half that price

@PelosiStockPortfolio

19 күн бұрын

@@supertec2023 Durrr... because trains currently exist and they dont have anything like TSA

@thastayapongsak4422

19 күн бұрын

​@@supertec2023 because it's a train. Yes.

...and once you get there you can switch trains and drag your luggage across the station while people bump into you which is very convenient.

Will a ticket on brightline be cheaper than flying? Why can’t Las Vegas build a railway from the airport to the strip? How will people get to the strip from the brightline station?

@ywc99411

7 күн бұрын

They should extend the Las Vegas Monorail to the airport and the future Brtightline Station.

I also heard brightline is working with the other high speed rail project connecting LA with San Francisco supposed a connection will be built from the existing brightline rail from Vegas to Rancho Cucamonga to Palmdale. There are high speed rail projects in the North East United States. The Vegas to LA will spur other western Cities to start their own high speed rail projects and possibly start a network in the western United States.

@scottg8660

4 күн бұрын

Lol

@robertmartinjr.4537

4 күн бұрын

@scottg8660 always some jokers got to show up🤣

At least in Southern California, it connected with current metrolink rail system. What about Vegas side? Why can't Las Vegas Monorail extend and connect with the Brightline West high speed rail?

I would like to know why it’s not going to stop in Barstow California

Maybe the Blue Line will stretch all the way to Rancho Cucamonga. That’d be nice.

Wow that's crazy. You know China built their first high-speed rail link in 5 years, it went from Beijin to Shanghai; that's like going from Toronto, Canada to Boston MA USA. The crazy part is Metrolink's plans to take 4 hours to build a HS link that is much much shorter.

Becuase it would likely double or triple the cost of the entire project as the direct route is always the more expensive options. This is what California high speed rail will face once it starts construction in LA, as it’s actually a direct connection that has tunnels and higher speeds.

Having road Amtrak into LA Union Station one thing is clearly obvious the amount of track space available. Surprisingly it's very limited.

Wonderful progress! Long live the Rails!!

@robertherman1146

8 күн бұрын

Wouldn’t take a train in a million years no way no how

@mrpeel3239

8 күн бұрын

@@robertherman1146 Why not?!

Most new high speed rail stations aren’t in the city centre; especially in China. Once I was going from Beijing to another city which is just an hour away by HSR, I took me longer to get to the train station by cab!

Please have an actual express train from union to rancho with zero stops

Rancho Cucamonga seems a strange anchor for a high-speed train to Vegas, but as others have pointed out in the comments (but not in the news story), the cost to connect to LA Union Station would have been so prohibitive it would not happen. Those types of expectations (and local politics) is dooming high speed rail elsewhere in California. What is unfortunate is that Metrolink is not directly connected to the Ontario airport or Los Angeles International airport; passengers have to take a shuttle. Local government planning (and politics) is incredibly short-sighted.

Thank goodness I don’t have to go LA, I’ve been there twice in my life and twice to VEGAS , traffic is horrible, feel bad for people who has to deal with this situation

You can travel through most of Europe on train. UEROPE!! We are so far behind. We need this. Next, they need to expand this to Arizona, NEW Mexico, etc…

@portcybertryx222

20 күн бұрын

You can do that here too but the difference is that train schedules suck and the trains are slow and inconvenient. But yeah you can pretty much connect to most important cities in the US by train. But we do have a long way to go to catch up to Europe but also building rail link doesn’t make sense everywhere in the US as we just don’t have the population density of city pairs that Europe has. We have the best network of inland airports which can help us travel faster. But there are a few key routes and regions that definitely need good rail links like Texas, California, northeast(it already does have one) , Pacific Northwest and the Chicago hub region.

@kdhemingo

18 күн бұрын

The average American is fine with slop since they are averse to taxes and proper levels of public funding , unfortunately

@portcybertryx222

18 күн бұрын

@@kdhemingo that used to be true but with wages going less further than they used to I think the next generation is going to ask for more public services. It has its pro and cons.

@shechshire

15 күн бұрын

@@portcybertryx222 That's a lot of information but that's not the reason. Those are central governments with a socialist economy that provides any amount of tax money the government dictates that people must pay to build whatever the government pleases. This is why cars are a luxury inn most countries. In the USA of course, we have the freedom to choose what we want to spend most of our money on with the exception of democrat ran states. Simply put, most states don't have enough tax money to pay for high speed rail & when they do like California they completely miss manage the project because they don't understand how to run a business in a capitalist country. This is why Bright line is winning & CHSR continues to run out of money & fall behind schedule. They build stations based on politically motivated reasons rather than on what is financially sustainable.

@-Katastrophe

15 күн бұрын

Europe, my dear is smaller and much more dense than the US, for them HSR makes sense. For the US, flights make sense because of it's size, corridors are probably not a bad idea but a full HSR network is not.

Seen Mas transit In LA? Like a cess pool

2:42 0.5 playback: At the center, there is the possibility of creating life

Yeah and when you get to your destination station, you have no car to get around

@pinhead35

20 күн бұрын

That’s why there’s an expansive bus and rail network across Los Angeles, i frequently take Metrolink to Disneyland.

@mikevale3620

11 күн бұрын

Do you have a car to get around in when you fly?

@renzog1237

10 күн бұрын

@@mikevale3620 People who can afford to fly, aren't getting on a train with the rest of the peasants

@mathieufaltys

10 күн бұрын

@@renzog1237 Trains provide a higher quality of life than cars and planes. I live in LA without a car, not because I can't afford one but because they suck.

@scottg8660

4 күн бұрын

​@mikevale3620 with the money you saved by flying, yes.

It shares the exsisting rail corridor between rancho and LA

Cant wait to see the videos on why brightline west failed and the main point being too expensive to not even get to downtown being the main one.

NBCLA: "Woman Stabbed on Metro Elevator" video posted on You Tube 11 hours ago. Current time: 6:05 pm Pacific Time 05/14/24. Check out the comments on that video. Is that what Olympic visitors are going to experience? In order to get to Olympic venues via train, one will have to use LA Metro Rail.

You will spend well over an hour just to get to Rancho from DLA. Then you have to find parking and wait for the train. That's like another hour. Might as well just drive or fly to Vegas.

@indisciipline

20 күн бұрын

STOP! BEING! ANNOYING!

@Vegas_Vampire

16 күн бұрын

just as long as it has a decent bar car on the train, i'll be fun

@Ven100

15 күн бұрын

Even with a transfer to MetroLink, DTLA to Vegas is ~3.5 hours which is still far better than driving (especially in peak hours) and close to the total time flying when factoring in airport pre-departure arrival, deboarding, and baggage claim (if you have checked luggage).

@yaush_

13 күн бұрын

You take metro link smart guy

@scottg8660

4 күн бұрын

​​@@Ven10045 mins to fly and less money

one time i waited 5 hrs for metro!!!!

Viewer in CA asking the same question. CA isn't informed on this project. That is not a quick commute in our area. ENORMOUS inconvenience. Ghost train

This still doesn’t explain why it doesn’t go to Union Station. Just that it goes to RC, and from RC you can get to US and other locations in the SoCal area.

@mi12no

12 күн бұрын

The actual reason is because funding and deadlines would be a lot harder to make. Edit: it’s also because LA wants people to use its metrolink and other country rail systems. That makes it more profitable for LA. Clearly they’re still greedy whether it’s for rail or road transportation.

No way luggage’s transfer…..😮

Might as well drive there you're half way

@pinhead35

20 күн бұрын

And get stuck in gridlock traffic… nah I prefer avoiding traffic.

@sqxpn1433

20 күн бұрын

how is that halfway rancho is like 45mins from la and rancho is another 3 and a half ours from Vegas. do u not know math?

@pinhead35

20 күн бұрын

@@sqxpn1433 brightline’s proposed timetables have the trip from rancho to Vegas at 1 hr and 50 minutes with stops in the High Desert, the entire trip from Vegas to LA Union Station can be completed in 3 hours with a 25 minute transfer at Rancho Cucamonga, 2 hours and 50 minutes with a 15 minutes transfer and, 2 hours and 35 minutes with a 10 minutes transfer. Brightline’s initial schedule will guarantee transfers between 10-15 minutes and when Brightline service is increased to half hourly, 10 minute transfers will be guaranteed for all trains and trips.

@fozzir

20 күн бұрын

@@pinhead35 only days are you are stuck in traffic are Fridays and Sundays. That's why I do my Vegas trips not on those days and it's always a straight shot no traffic. Another option is at night, if you leave it night there is no traffic either.

One HSR (Central Valley) is gov't run. One HSR (Las Vegas) is private sector. Guess which one will be completely clustered.

It's hilarious that they somehow think all people go from Southeast to Northwest or vice versa on a diagonal. What if you're in rancho Cucamonga and you want to go northeast to Southwest straight to the coast? 😆

Metrolink is pretty useless right now; it runs once an hour at best and stops running after like 7 PM in many casee. They would need to upgrade it considerably unless they want a bunch of people stuck in RC.

The Metrolink goes almost nowhere. So, you'll have bright line to Metrolink to uber

What would be awesome if the HSR linked up with bright line… but that will never happen.

1:58 that door is open while it's moving

Why's it going to Rancho Cucamonga instead of LA? Because it was never going to go to LA. It is so much cheaper for Brightline to go to Rancho and get some of that tasty Federal HSR money than it is to go into LA proper, as they'd need to either run a direct line themselves which would probably cost just as much as the cost from Rancho to LV, or they would need to upgrade Metrolink rails/service which again is a cost that Brightline doesn't want to deal with.

Why not build to downtown???? They can expand freeways yet not put down two pairs of track? In China they would have this completed in 2 years running from Rancho to Los Angeles at full 220 mph.

Cowabunga Rancho Cucamonga!

What?? You mean to tell me Rancho Cucamongus isn’t LA 😂

Rancho Cucamonga is one hour car drive from DTLA and over one hour from SFV with no traffic. This is not going to work.

A privately owned company is always going to cash in on the easiest route, so Brightline is sticking to the desert section. The line into downtown LA will be complete when the publicly owned California High Speed Rail does the heavy lifting to upgrade the tracks through the city.

@Netizpossible

7 күн бұрын

That would happen if Cal HSR actually reached LA. Right now that project is overbudget partly because of land aquisitions, and they haven't even finished the first phase, which won't connect to LA or SF or Sacramento yet. Until the government or investors see success with Brightline West, funding for an upgraded link to DTLA probably won't happen, especially not because of Cal HSR.

@mathieufaltys

7 күн бұрын

@@Netizpossible California HSR will go to downtown LA. It has nothing to do with the Brightline West line. It is taking a long time because it is a huge project and it has never been done before in this country. There is no institutional knowledge to lean on. Brightline is using rails and trains compatible with Cal HSR exactly for the purpose of eventually piggybacking on their lines to DTLA.

@scottg8660

4 күн бұрын

You mean one that already took billions in government money?😂

Who lives in Vegas without a car : O? You gotta be kidding me.

It's fine and good to have a stop in Rancho Cucamonga coming from Las Vegas and have the options of transferring to meto service. However, that's not the point! High speed trains in Europe and Japan do this all the time as they make less frequent stops but stops nonetheless, but ALL OF THEM go from one cities MAIN TRIAN STATION to the terminating MAIN TRIAN STATION, they don't STOP SHORT of where you want to go! Do these people think we are idiots who don't understand how trains SHOULD work? i.e. go from city center to center of city. That's how it's supposed to work, not drop you off in some suburb. United States can never get high speed rail to work it seems. It's not hard to see how the rest of the world does this.

@TarulWarlord

7 күн бұрын

US cities are just not designed for mass transit system. In other countries trains connect CBD of one city to CBD of another city with metro links between the CBD and the outer suburbs where people live. Also zoning for housing is done in such a manner that poorer people are always prioritised to have access to mass transit system as richer more affluent people can afford to have private vehicles and drive a bit further. In the USA, most cities do not even take into consideration how people will access mass transit system while doing City planning.

Nobody is riding this train when it costs less to fly.

@humbertovazquez3733

2 күн бұрын

How many flies do they have a day? The train will have more passengers hourly and probably will match competition to fly.

It would cost millions or billions more to extend into downtown. Tunnels, overpasses, underpasses, etc. That's reason this is being done fast and CHEAP. Nothing in the way unlike the CA HSR.

@pigdroppings

17 күн бұрын

$28 Billion is cheap?????

Sure! Nevadans love the idea of using LA’s mass transit-cuz who doesn’t wanna gamble on getting stabbed to death? (Sorry but downtown and surrounding metro areas are outta control right now)

All of you have missed what this project is really about. It's not about trains. It's just a big real estate deal with each train station being a large multi use real estate projects.The train will lose money. The profit is on the real estate side.

Where's the ChUNNEL to go through the mountains???!!

How safe will it be as far as crime onboard? BART is full of crime What’s the trains plan?

@checkoutmyyoutubepage

21 күн бұрын

You try so hard huh?

@meganwynn372

20 күн бұрын

Have you SEEN what it is going to look like inside??? Crime is the plague of the poor and impoverished, you cant afford to LOOK at how much it costs to ride this thing.

@Cyrus992

20 күн бұрын

@@meganwynn372 First class seats

@checkoutmyyoutubepage

20 күн бұрын

@@meganwynn372 you’re a fake bot account.

@roachtoasties

20 күн бұрын

This isn't a city subway system. Is there rampant crime on Amtrak? I think you know the answer.

Not first... the first one went broke in CA

High speed rail can’t go on most old tracks

Im happy that Los Angeles is taking mass transit seriously. For it to be the nation's 2nd largest city, a car shouldn't be the primary option to get around.

@peterwelby

12 күн бұрын

This isn't mass transit. The LA metro is dirty and dangerous. The Mayor finally admitted that this week. People get stabbed every day on buses and trains

Sounds like a Johnny Carson joke.

Because Rancho Cucamonga is a very scenic area 😂😂😂😂

I always thought that Rancho Cucamonga was a made up place on the show work-a-holics

Folks, this will not be complete in our lifetimes. Maybe our kids, kids, kids, kids, lifetime, but not ours.

Metro link AKA homeless train.

Rancho Cucamonga has changed a lot in the last 15 years. It's nothing like it used to be. End of an era. They want to make Las Vegas into a sports town. Makes sense they're tying the train into the future Olympics. Absolutely have no interest in riding it. I spent 5 years riding subways because I had to and hated it.

@Cyrus992

20 күн бұрын

Many drive because it is the only true option.

@sh0t0kan

20 күн бұрын

somebody needs a hug

@pinhead35

20 күн бұрын

Enjoy having less traffic!

@562LA2THEBAY

19 күн бұрын

Has any placed stayed the same after 15 years ? Including yourself?

@Cyrus992

19 күн бұрын

@@562LA2THEBAY lived there from 1996-2009

It's not the first high speed rail line in the US, not by a long shot. The Acela goes 150 mph and has been running since 2000. And this train from Brightline will only do HSR speeds on two very short segments just outside Vegas. You can't call a rail line "HSR" because under 10% of the line will have HSR speeds. That's not how reality works.

@user-vj3qy3rg9p

20 күн бұрын

I live on nyc , the Acela most of the time doesn’t hit that speed. And there’s too much traffic on the north east corridor.

@TohaBgood2

19 күн бұрын

@@user-vj3qy3rg9p The Acela travels at 125+ mph for more than half of its route. This is exactly how about half of the HSR in Europe and about half of the Shinkansen lines work in Japan. Each system tends to have a few faster lines, but the bulk of the HSR lines worldwide are the Acela kind - upgraded express rail with 125-ish mph speeds. Only the scratch built new networks in Spain and China don't have more than half of their HSR networks consist of Acela-like HSR lines.

if the California Progressive party stopped private transportation companies from generating their own electricity what do think is going to happen to DIMLINE?? The L.A.R.W. and Pacific Electric were killed off this way (who framed roger rabbit missed it) go to The Southern California Railroad Museum in Perris California and see for yourself and ride the Yellow and Red Cars again. please call ahead and Be Courteous. a lot of real cowboys in law enforcement out there

Finished in four years isn't going to happen. There are no tracks. They'll need to lay those along with a catenary system for the electric system. Just adding catenary wiring to Caltrain has taken six years, with the tracks already there, and it's a route that's only a fraction in length. Why Brightline is saying four years, I don't know. I hope I'm wrong, but maybe this gets finished in a decade.

@fernyv4368

20 күн бұрын

They will pressure the workers.. Nothing new

@tstahler5420

20 күн бұрын

Las Vegas is involved and it actually goes to a place people want to go.

@tom_rodriguez

20 күн бұрын

Great points and it’s something I’ve been saying in other posts. Additionally, this will be Brightline’s first HSR project. Their Florida projects are similar but not the same.

@pinhead35

20 күн бұрын

With Caltrain and California high speed rail there was fierce opposition to the projects, brightline is facing zero opposition, Caltrain wiring took longer because it is also complicated to electrify an ACTIVE railroad. Brightline is constructing a new railroad from scratch and already has the necessary approvals to allow for completion in 2028. If the schedule goes over, brightline will be forced to pay hefty fines to Unions and Operators.

@user-bb3yv8dy7q

20 күн бұрын

Plus the workers having to deal with the heat a lot of the year, they will probably have to work at night but it is still hot in the desert at night in the summer but at least they won't have the blazing sun on them.

Completed in 4 years? I thought this was fox 5, looks more like Comedy Central….

Because they don’t have the money to deal with strong NIMBYs

what an incredible waste of time. You didn't answer why it won't run to DTLA at all!

Isn't it cheaper and faster to just fly from Vegas to LA ?

@k31than

20 күн бұрын

Does that also factor in and include time spent at the airport prior to boarding?

@pinhead35

20 күн бұрын

Brightline is in direct competition with those flights since traffic getting TO lax adds 1-2 hours to your trip on top of airport security which adds 2 more hours. Brightline will consistently take 2 Hours and 40 minutes from Union Station to Las Vegas with a transfer to metrolink included in the time estimate.

@ChrisJones-gx7fc

20 күн бұрын

@@pinhead35 Metrolink currently takes 74 minutes between LA and RC. Brightline West will take about two hours to reach Las Vegas. Add in say a 10-15 minute transfer at RC, and that's about a 3 1/2 hour trip. Probably still about on par with flying between downtown LA and the Strip, plus the train will be more consistent with its travel time than a plane might, and especially compared to driving I-15.

@TohaBgood2

20 күн бұрын

Cheaper yes, faster no. Airports take forever.

Cool, it'll create more jobs👍

Metro crime ridden . I fly JSX from OC

@mathieufaltys

10 күн бұрын

People in cars are 100x more likely to be injured than those riding Metro. I have no reservations letting my children ride the trains by themselves.

WHAT TRAIN?? the money will go missing AGAIN!!

Rancho Cucamonga is better than Laupt . Nobody goes downtown LA and why funnel everyone down-town just to go back out to the suburbs anyways .

“Luggage will be transferred for you like at an airport” gee that sure sounds like peaches and cream .. Yet it’s not , airports can’t even keep track of their luggage’s they will end up in different states or won’t even leave the terminal or worse stolen .. I don’t trust this train station with my luggage especially from “LA to Vegas” .. I rather just drive and keep my belongings

@pinhead35

20 күн бұрын

You can also take your belongings with you on the train if you don’t trust their checked baggage system, (which in Florida is really good and reliable), unlike airplanes, there is no carry on luggage limit.

Because there will be future extensions to Anaheim and Azusa.

Who wants a train to end up at the Inland Empire?

Meanwhile China has build railway lines that go all the way to London.

@humbertovazquez3733

2 күн бұрын

And nobody whines about it like Americans do.

Wow so much for it being high speed you're going to have to transfer to the METRO. Joke so let me guess the High-Speed rail project that's going from Sacramento to Los Angeles is going to stop at Bakersfield and you're going to have to take buses to downtown LA....

The real answer is they don't have money and it will take longer to construct. They decide to stop at Rancho for you can transfer on Metrolink into LA. Metrolink is not looking to electrify their system at the moment. But in the future California will build another high speed rail line called the High Desert Corridor. It will connect Victorville on the Brightline West and Lancaster/Palmdale on the California HSR network. From there Brightline trains will join CAHSR and into LA Union. But we already have seen the issue in the Central Valley. Once that's open in 2030, they said the next part to open will be to San Francisco. CAHSR needs to dig very long and deep tunnels south of Bakersfield and Palmdale. Where I'm from in the Northeast, the Hudson Tunnels will take about 11 years and they are about a mile or two. Is there a possibility Brightline can help with the tunneling? I'm not sure

@davidjackson7281

16 күн бұрын

CAHSR only plans to have 55 miles of 220-250 mph high speed rail tunnels as part of a 500 mile long system.

@shechshire

15 күн бұрын

California high speed rail ran out of money & fell behind schedule because you build stations for politically motivated reasons rather than based on what's finically sustainable. The real answer is because of the high taxation & the fact it's stupid to build something with a business model that hasn't been proven yet. That's how business works. You have to start small & then invest more when that business proves to be successful. This is why we only had three stations here in Miami where as you guys have nothing yet.

@davidjackson7281

14 күн бұрын

@@shechshire Brightline has a very good business model, CAHSR does not.

@davidjackson7281

14 күн бұрын

Do not count on CAHSR reaching SoCal anytime in a decent future timeframe (40 miles of tunnels). So the High Desert Corridor may end up being a "higher" speed type connection at best to hopefully an upgraded Metrolink Antelope Valley line.

$400.00

Total waste no one wants to go to Californi.

Obvious that it is going to be for the wealthy ,not for the average people.

@TohaBgood2

20 күн бұрын

It'll cost the same as a flight.

This video promotes Metrolink; it doesn't explain why Brightline is not investing in direct service to LA. Local news, bad as ever.

Its a waste of money. It wont attract a lot of riders.

All talk, no action like always.

No, thanks. I'll fly Southwest to Long Beach.

Japan bought their HSR right-of-ways in the 60's...smart. HSR for gamblers, I can already smell the cigarettes....RC to Vegas is a sad joke.

California has already started construction on CA HSR so Brightline is not the first

@mathieufaltys

10 күн бұрын

Plus, Brightline is going to be a little slower than what is internationally recognized as high speed rail.

@realquadmoo

10 күн бұрын

@@mathieufaltys Oh wow even Brightline West?