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Why Were Victorian Beach Holidays So Deadly? | Hidden History | Absolute History
The popular Georgian "Health Retreat" on the Brighton seaside was blooming into a full-blown resort town in the Victorian era. Millions flocked to this small coastal village every year seeking fresh sea air. But "Dr. Brighton" was secretly serving up heavy doses of cholera, typhoid, and venereal disease.
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"Why Were Victorian Beach Holidays So Deadly?" I wonder if there was anything about victorian era that wasn't "so deadly"
@philipibaugh2925
2 жыл бұрын
I think it's a title used to attract people who maybe aren't interested in history as much as hearing about disaster. It could just say Victorian beaches and I'd watch but most need more to grab attention. I could be wrong
@pjaybasmaignee
2 жыл бұрын
@@philipibaugh2925 I think you hit the nail on the head.
@leslietonn3181
2 жыл бұрын
There's no Era in history that isn't without death.
@lindsey9728
2 жыл бұрын
There's a pretty good chance future people will look at our time period and think the same thing about our apathy towards micro plastics.
@indiosveritas
2 жыл бұрын
They did not attempt to make little boys into little girls and visa versa ( such as presently the case ).
I love they tracked down someone that actually has lived long enough to remember it themselves. That 102 year old gentleman was as quick as any 35 year old. Absolutely amazing
@eddiesroom1868
2 жыл бұрын
0:19 M&Ms
@ashleelarsen7765
2 жыл бұрын
@@eddiesroom1868 thanks mom!
@karenbrown4524
2 жыл бұрын
And so very dapperly dressed and handsomely groomed, of course, as well.
@mrsbluesky8415
2 жыл бұрын
He was a joy to watch for sure. And a nice fashion sense.
@ashleelarsen7765
2 жыл бұрын
@@mrsbluesky8415 fun
10:00 What a good looking 102 year old man! He looks younger than most men, who are good 30 years younger than him. And he is still mentally so young. Wonderful!
@ingridakerblom7577
Жыл бұрын
It's often like thatz if they reach 100 y they are often clear in ther mind & indipendent, they often have the "go with the flow" mentality, little things just don't upset you when you been around for so long. I work i elderly care.. It's wierd to go from a 103 y old lady, so fast on her feet that us staff have a hard time keeping up with her.. to a 60 something, with multiple severe conditions, barely able to move.. I've had a few 100+ y old clients, they are similar in many ways
@WhatsCookingTime
Жыл бұрын
He's probably continue to exercise and keep himself busy long after conventional retirement age that's usually the case with all of these men and women
Every time I see something about the Victorian era, the word deadly is attached to it
@einwurm
2 жыл бұрын
Or lethal.
@chiquitabanana2272
2 жыл бұрын
i think because a lot of todays tech was invented in this era, the victorians was the test dummies so we could be some what safer today 🤷🏾♀️ gotta admit they were both smart and incredibly stupid lol
@willmfrank
2 жыл бұрын
@@chiquitabanana2272 "From the evidence, I believe his wisdom must walk hand in hand with his idiocy..." -- Dr. Zaius, "Planet of the Apes"
@chiquitabanana2272
2 жыл бұрын
@@willmfrank bout sums it up 👏
@willmfrank
2 жыл бұрын
@@chiquitabanana2272 Every time I see the words "Victorian" and "Deadly" together, I think "Yay! Susannah's back!" Not saying I'm disappointed with this one, but... I did kinda sorta say "Oh. Who's this guy?"
102 year old gentleman was sharp and looked so young for 102! Cheers to him!!
"why do you go in this very cold water?" "STICK!" I laughed so hard I had to pause.
My dad is a veteran "winterbather" he gos & swims in the sea every day of the whole year. We live in Finland, so maybe 3momths out off a year, the water is not freezing.. but he dislikes it when it's a nice temp, it's better when there is an ice sheet to him..
@c.s.7266
2 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine how cold it would be but I understand that many people ice-bathe..
@bingbingbaobei
2 жыл бұрын
My Finnish aunt use to bring us for ice baths in Maine. I have fond memories of it.
@sacrilegioussasquatch
2 жыл бұрын
@@c.s.7266 saunas make it fun. You have to cut a hole in the ice sometimes tho
I like how articulate the old people they interviewed were. Each word is pronounced clearly and with deliberation!
@patconstantinou1846
2 жыл бұрын
All school children had to read aloud on an everyday basis from about 8 - 11 years old, if my memory serves me, and woe betide us if we mispronounced a word, gabbled or mumbled. I don't think that happens today, more's the pity.
@jonc4403
2 жыл бұрын
@@patconstantinou1846 So it was essentially tortured into them as children. How sad.
@patconstantinou1846
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonc4403 Not at all. The teachers were dedicated to helping children reach a modicum of reasonable speech because the world was so class divided in those days that no matter how bright the child, doors remained closed to them the minute they opened their mouths, such was snobbery then. Subsequent generations benefitted from this as this upward mobility, however slow, allowed for more opportunities for all. Don't deride attitudes from which you have probably benefitted. It is very short-sighted.
@roselee4445
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonc4403 well, depends upon teacher and how she presents it
@WhatsCookingTime
Жыл бұрын
Up until probably 20 or 30 years ago we were all taught that we were judged on how we spoke people would talk to speak properly in schools and to conduct themselves a certain way
I've been to one really crowded beach (Mediterranean Sea, Italy) and for the life of me I can't understand how anyone could enjoy it. All the magic of the waves and sand is completely erased by having people so close to you on all sides that you could almost touch them, and have to listen to their conversations, arguments, whining kids, etc. I couldn't wait to leave; even the boring hotel room was better than that.
@LathropLdST
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but that is on you. There are beaches in Italy that you can actually enjoy, if you only researched enough. I hate the most prominent places and found several cheaper, hidden jewels just by the simple act of doing my research.
@classyalien9722
2 жыл бұрын
It depends, if you go to a more tourist prone area or to a "famous" beach then yeah it can get pretty crowded especially in August. I don't really mind it tho i think it's part of the experience 🤣 I'm from Southern Italy.
@audreymuzingo933
2 жыл бұрын
@@LathropLdST I'm sure you're right about about better beaches in Italy, but in this case it wasn't on me; I was the guest of someone else who was making all the decisions.
@joydixon3440
2 жыл бұрын
It's not just Italy it's all over the world at any resort, if you don't want to be around all those people and get sick from the crowd.🧏🤒 Yes your right you don't have a choice if you're a guest. But if you have a choice research google and KZread and pick a beautiful beach with very few people but it has more things/ activity to do. 🏖️🧳🏄🏊🤿🩱🩳🌃🌭🍾🥂🍹
@n.p.5810
2 жыл бұрын
In my 28 years of life never habe i Met someone with same opinion . Nightmare for me and i will never understand people
That gentleman brought back a fond memory of my grandmother, in those days. When I was a kid, I asked her why she didn't go swimming with me(at my great uncles cottage), and she always said, she wore the knees out of her bathing suit, and didn't have another one. gramma had a lot of funny stories RIP gramma and grampa, I miss you. Peace
@possiblychey
2 жыл бұрын
It’s so wonderful that you were able to feel a piece of your grandmother after she’s passed. I’m truly sorry for your loss, but I’m glad you can relive those happy memories and keep her spirit alive.
I remember watching a video on William Morris wallpaper where people escaped to the beach to be able to breathe air free of arsenic
I never realized that piers were such a big deal? I grew up in Brooklyn NY. The coney Island pier is still standing. I was there daily. It was free it's also not beautiful anymore. But nothing is in coney Island. Their hay day was the victorian era by far.. then there are the piers in Manhattan.. just tons of them. And in NJ shore.. I guess I took it for granted. I simply had no idea it was a big deal!
I think my favorite part is when the little girl looks super disgusted that 'Boris' was stabbed. Lol. 😆 I think modern kids probably don't get that sort of humor.
This was enjoyable and informative. I do wish they would consider restoring the pier as it once was.🖤🇨🇦
@AbsoluteHistory
2 жыл бұрын
I hope so too!
This is a ridiculous come-on title for a piece that had very little “deadliness” in it and was instead a nice historical review of the history of beach-going in Britain.
@willmfrank
2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting an episode of Susannah Lipscombe's series "Hidden Killers."
@DragonsAndDragons777
2 жыл бұрын
@@willmfrank She is a great show host!
@willmfrank
2 жыл бұрын
@@DragonsAndDragons777 Absolutely!
@lynnflynn5591
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Unfortunately, this channel often uses misleading titles. Sensationalism. The real topic of this program was much more interesting than the title. 👏
@jameshaury2716
2 жыл бұрын
They did not need to lie. This was interesting stuff.
I remember going onto the Steel Pier in Atlantic City, N.J., USA when I was a child. It was spectacular. I can only imagine what this great pier must have been like.
ahhh cholera and the victorians - a genuine love affair
Wow this doc is so well done. I would have never understood her actions had I not listened and empathized with both parties. Thank you.
That was a long introduction. I thought it was the Superbowl.
The ice cold water is very similar to the cryogenic booth. Also you’ll find athletes take “ice baths” to help rejuvenate their bodies after working out as well as after their games.
21:51 I'm sorry I had to laugh! He just sounded so horrified is the most polite way possible!🤣
Arson is such a terrible thing. Even if a fire is put out the water damage usually finishes destroying a building. Many times the building isn't even the worst loss. Irreplaceable and sentimental items are lost forever. If/when an arsonist is caught I think a 20 year, minimum, prison sentence should be applied. Depending on what was burned or if lives were lost life without parol maximum. Btw, I believe in exceptions to every rule/law. That means if say someone is charged with arson for burning down their collapsing barn cuz it's cheaper than tearing it down, maybe a fine is more appropriate.
MY MUM USED TO BE ON BRIGHTON BEACH WHEN SHE WAS A LITTLE GIRL , AND SHOWED ME A PHOTO! THIS VIDEO WAS REALLY INTERESTING TO ME. MY MUM WENT THERE EVERY YEAR AS SHE LOVED THE MEMORI
@susanfurlong2002
2 жыл бұрын
........MEMORIES SHE HAD..
@RoundBaguette
2 жыл бұрын
OKAY WE HEARD YOU
@susanfurlong2002
2 жыл бұрын
@@RoundBaguette GOOD!
@angelam3517
2 жыл бұрын
Dear Susan, typing in all upper case letters on the internet means you are shouting.
@susanfurlong2002
2 жыл бұрын
MAYBE TO YOU, NOT TO ME.......STOP JUDGING WHAT I DO & FOCUS IN ON YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
Len Goldman looks 75, not 102. He is a human history book.
As an English woman, I find the accents of our elders so lovely. It’s a shame our world has no pride in itself anymore. We are losing so much.
@653j521
2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people look back with rose-colored glasses.
@dittohead7044
2 жыл бұрын
Too much immigration
This is an extraordinary video/documentary! While I do live in the States, I have deep sentiment for Brighton. This video, the various persons you have interviewed, as well as yourself, really radiate the passion for such a wonderful Seaside location. Good health and special appreciation to the 102 yr-old gentleman! Lastly, the incredible lady that lost her father is undoubtedly a quality human being, that words cannot adequately describe. Thank you for your wonderful work! 💯%
Boy, l could go to Blackpool right now and eat a 99. No beaches here in Arizona. I miss that so much.
@Graciesmom-gp5ng
2 жыл бұрын
Love a 99.
@roselee4445
2 жыл бұрын
99 ?
@meman6964
2 жыл бұрын
Arizona has plenty of "beach", the trouble is no ocean!! After 19 years on New Mexico, I finally moved to Cocoa Beach... finally water to go with all that sand🌴🌞
@cynthiahogan4598
2 жыл бұрын
From the Cadbury website: An Ice Cream served in a cone with a Flake 99 is the UK's favourite ice cream. In the days of the monarchy in Italy the King had an elite guard consisting of 99 soldiers. Subsequently anything really special or first class was known as "99".
That was so interesting and enjoyable. Thank you.
This is such great material and I love every episode, however I think it would get more views if there weren’t so many ads and so much repetition. It’s distracting.
@spiritualtruthseeker1947
2 жыл бұрын
You may need to install an ad blocker.
@animeloveer97
2 жыл бұрын
@@spiritualtruthseeker1947 the repetition is the worst part to me i dont wanna watch the same thin g 2x in the same vid yknow
@dittohead7044
2 жыл бұрын
@@spiritualtruthseeker1947 yes but everyone and everything on YT wants money for stuff. I just can’t
@phoenixrising573
2 жыл бұрын
EVERYTHING History Hits does ends up being annoying even if they stole good videos in the first place!!
Thank you for these quality videos.
All I could think of when the video was introduced was Lydia in the Pride and Predjudice BBC movie "OOOOOOOO I WANT TO GO TO BRIGHTON!!"
Jolly good show, tyvmuch👤 Imagine after a hard day of work you can come here for some leisure💓
this video has almostt NOTHING to do with the title
That bit with the Boris Johnson puppet was strange and off-putting. It would have been more fun to see someone recreate a period puppet show that ripped on a Victorian Prime Minister or something. I'm no Boris fan, but stabbing him in front of children? Who came up wit that?
@cynthiahogan4598
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty funny considering the events of this week! Punch and Judy shows have always been violent!
I dislike Boris Johnson, too, but damn. This is pretty awful.
@ktlipshitz3212
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I nearly died from cringing so hard.
Newfound love for this narrator. (New to channel and not from UK)
They should restore it or rebuild it exactly.
Wonderful history details. Thank you.
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
The set up for this episode was a rollercoaster!
For some reason I thought this was going to be due to arsenic haha its always arsenic
I live in a resort town year round. I am on the very southern tip of New Jersey...[NO I DON'T LIVE IN WILDWOOD] I said the very southern tip of New Jersey. Cape May which has a massive amount of Victorian homes. The beach is always crowded and loud [so no l don't go to the beach] but there are a multitude of out of the way beaches. However...to get a slice of this one has to walk quite a distance and lug in provisions for the day. Not worth my time or effort. But those who do this love it emensely.
The man with the stick is so authentically British
I want to bring back the promenade.
@roselee4445
2 жыл бұрын
And old gentlemen
I was overseas after mobilization. Where I was they had a 50 meter indoor pool unheated. After about 2 laps you would warm up. I do not know if the pool was at 9 degrees celsius , we were in the desert but it was definitely cool at the indoor pool. So I guess the men in that swimming club warm up a bit after some time swimming.
British people dont seem to look very well after their public places (i am talking about the Lido and the rusty remains of the Promenade) Also the streets behind the beaches dont look so welcoming. If you go to the german seaside resorts on the baltic sea, everything is maticulary looked after with flowerbeds, benches, playgrounds and so on. Is the impression i have wrong?
@onespiceybbw
2 жыл бұрын
Meticulously or particularly?
@laschagga8886
2 жыл бұрын
@@onespiceybbw i am not nativ english, lets just say "nicely".
@dawnemyers8873
2 жыл бұрын
@@laschagga8886 There is always someone correcting our wording or spelling for some reason or other. You just can't make a statement without somebody doing corrections . I think they feel superior to make such rewording ones statement.. always that person waiting to critic .
@laschagga8886
2 жыл бұрын
@@dawnemyers8873 yes but no real Argument If i am wrong or anything. Its not about superiority, maybe i dont See Something. ;)
@roselee4445
2 жыл бұрын
@@onespiceybbw I'm sure the corrector changed his words
Damn that woman is so strong and intelligent. She is iconic in her healing path
Thank you for this video! 😀💐
Sadly no mention of "Daddy Longlegs" the off shore Volks electric railway.
Excellent. Thank you !:-) 💜🙏⚡️
A very interesting programme.
Funny that the narrator associated piers with old people. I associate them with roller coasters and overpriced seafood.
Everything in that era was deadly lol
So the art of immersing oneself in beach nature has turned into an expensive industrial indoor high in the sky immersive environment. Sounds like so much that’s happening in U$A. Creating a nation of wealthy indoor fat cats vs. the homeless and the poor who are “forced” into occupying outdoor spots. Loved the narrator.
What was deadly about it?
@poorthing
2 жыл бұрын
Duh...cholera, typhoid, scarlet fever, TB Did you actually watch this?
@roselee4445
2 жыл бұрын
@@poorthing sewer sores etc etc
"Lovely sunny day", looks overcast and grey to me. 🌴🌞🌴
I hope I look as good at 80 as this man does at 102 🙌🏻
I think England has the worst beaches ever. Cold and gray. Wow
The Donut is shiny because it's a glazed Donut.
This is an interesting video but the title is misleading. The I360 is not a 21st century phenomenon, Vancouver, BC has a similar place that was built in the 70's-80's, Niagara Falls has had same for years as well. Seattle, Wash has had the Space Tower for even longer. Would be so wonderful if they would rebuild that Pier. Have been to the Santa Monica pier, it was a fun experience. Delicious food. I love that they are restoring the Lido. On my list when I go to Britian.
@msiobhanhiggs
2 жыл бұрын
I would say those towers are different since they use a central elevator up to a spinning platform instead of an entire donut that goes up and down. Though I don't know what the Niagara one is like, just the Vancouver and Seattle ones.
@roselee4445
2 жыл бұрын
Seattle a dump compared to 70s
Did anyone else notice the little girl's face during the Stabbing of Boris? On telly or not, that's not going to be a fond childhood memory at the beach.
0:11 Why does that sound like something an interrogator says before they get started with a suspect?
People dressed so well for being at the beach. I feel we have become slovenly compared to them.
@mattjack3983
2 жыл бұрын
They look overdressed for being at the beach. I wouldn't want to be that covered up. It looks hot and uncomfortable
@poorthing
2 жыл бұрын
Ha...they look quite elegant but.... Give me a modern bathing suit or shorts and a tee shirt! Especially at a beach
@roselee4445
2 жыл бұрын
Well , just walk down the street, dress is horrible
@dittohead7044
2 жыл бұрын
@@roselee4445 And too much of it. It’s tasteless
@deborahshallin5843
Жыл бұрын
@@mattjack3983 the clothing wasn’t that hot because of the materials used, such as linen. The color white was important also when used as a reflective versus dark colors which would absorb the heat. Finally, clothing can act as an insulator against the heat and sun.
As a true rockhound, I'm just loving seeing the rocky beaches there. Wonder what kind of rocks I'd find there? Edit: apparently just flint, that's all they have. But a useful stone it is.👍
It's a wonder anyone made it out the Victorian Era alive😆
What kind of stupid question is that?!?! How did you feel in the aftermath of your father being killed? REALLY !! That’s the stupidest thing I’ve heard asked to someone.
5:18 what an eyesore
Next how Victorian lovemaking was deadly
Thanks!
well at 12.20 its pretty clear that without piers, Brighton beach is bleak. Walking on stones by flat grey water? Blech
And you went down the sewers without a hazmat suit or even a mask where pipes covered in “poo?” 😱
Victorian times seem like absolute hell
@roselee4445
2 жыл бұрын
Especially for poor
Why don't they rebuild it?
Too bizarre with the host doing a simulating stabbing of Boris Johnson via Punch and Judy for the children. What was he thinking?!???
@lisapop5219
2 жыл бұрын
I was reading the comments to see if it was just me. I'm not even from England yet thought it was in poor taste
@jonc4403
2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was absolutely lovely.
@cynthiahogan4598
2 жыл бұрын
Actually very funny considering the events of this week. Punch and Judy shows have always been inherently violent!
Interesting
I think there are around 80 piers in California alone...
"the stabbing of boris..... a fantasy" 🤣
Prior to this, my knowledge of British piers was limited to the 1957 Alec Guinness movie, All at Sea.
More piers than any country in the world? I’m pretty sure we have more in California…
@Blue_Star_Child
Жыл бұрын
In Victorian times tho?
The USA has thousands of working piers.🥳 What horrid beaches; no wonder the Brits come to Florida 😂
@dibutler9151
2 жыл бұрын
Their beaches are interesting for seeing nature, but the actual beaches are pretty dire, lol. The water is usually frigid, as well.
@resnonverba137
2 жыл бұрын
Shame they find it ruined by the Yanks ;)
@DDRWakaLaka
2 жыл бұрын
tbf the US is also like. HUGE? the uk is teeny tiny
@RoundBaguette
2 жыл бұрын
More people go to Mexico for beaches
Interesting!
¡Gracias!
The man in the video is like an older Gordon Ramsey
Thise old men swimming, awesome, I don't know how. However, in Torquay they empty raw sewer , be careful
"You were not allowed to go bare topped, even men" PLEASE can we go back to this
I wish I could my in-laws to that beach.
@Alex-cb2gf
2 жыл бұрын
And drop them off?
@roselee4445
2 жыл бұрын
@@Alex-cb2gf funny
Why aren't they rebuilding it for the next generation?
Seems odd to me that at the saltine lido the first thing the renovated was the pool. Seems to me you would restore the hotel first, because without the hotel you really are not going to have patrons for the pool, not many people are going to spend money to swim at a pool with a dilapidated building in the background
I don't like that donut they show at the end. Not really the same feeling of strolling across the sea, is it
I mean, it is all very interesting and cute, but is the title mere clickbait? This seems to be mostly about different periods than the Victorian era. Not sure that I want to finish watching it.
Click bait title.
Everytime I hear the name of Brighton, I think of Coraline
I love doc. But I can’t watch this at all way too slow.
I was born and lived many years in Brighton in my youth it was a nice town (now city) with not only the seaside also very well looked after lovely parks , now in 2022 Brighton has become the opposite to nice, it is dirty , the parks have nothing to do with what they once were , some how the political elite in Brighton have managed to run Brighton into a unrecognisable hole and money is spent on the woke standing of Brighton and not on Brighton itself.
@Blacksheep-Ba-Ba
2 жыл бұрын
We are living the same reality in Boston Massachusetts, the truth is, it points directly to one person in America and his disgusting abandonment of our people and what he's done to our country. Our country will never be the same.
@tonib.3016
2 жыл бұрын
@@Blacksheep-Ba-Ba 👋🤖
Brits always went on holiday to the shore. There are lots of little colorful changing huts. That's what you did back then.
Why do you call it a wreck? Why not call it what it is? A ruined sea scape! A wreck implies it was destroyed by either a bomb or hurricane or mayhap another means.
@audisnewbeginning8616
2 жыл бұрын
We sadly don't have seaside beaches, however we do have great places like Fossil Creek, Beaver Creek, as well as some nice lakeside beaches to get out fix in Arizona, until we can make the 7 hour drive to California and beaches like Santa Monica.
@roselee4445
2 жыл бұрын
@@audisnewbeginning8616 and visit the homeless
@653j521
2 жыл бұрын
@@roselee4445 A troll or suffering from depression?
@roselee4445
2 жыл бұрын
@@653j521 talking about the homeless situation in California , was mentioned beaches there. I'd go to east coast beaches. Gulf.
Oh God Hahaha humans what a trip It's so sad there's so much bad.
I'm subbed but get no videos. This is one of my favorite channels by the way so wth?
I don't see anything about Victorian times?
So done with this channel now too!!! Getting shows UNINTERRUPTED is why I use KZread!! Having an annoying ad BY the channel for History Hits is more than I'm willing to put up with! There are LOTS of other things to watch besides History Hits! NEVER will I PAY to watch videos stolen from the actual makers and posted for someone elses' profit!!!!!!