You have a great way of explaining and teaching things. Keep up the great content!

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Wow! Thanks so much

@duaneallen7235

Жыл бұрын

​@@hausplans z zzz*★😂

Side note, dropping a 32' lvl flat on the concrete may be one of the loudest noises I've ever heard.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

I bet😂

@thepewplace1370

Жыл бұрын

OSHA wants to know if you had the appropriate hearing protection!

@alanmorales4140

9 ай бұрын

Try dropping it on the semi you’re tryna load😓

Love it we installed like 8 so far on this new house I bought broke down walls and made it open space but then come to find out on one side of the beams are broke so we had to take off all the ceiling , gotta replace 8 more. Loving learning news things glad to have a father who knows how to do all of this or else without him I wouldn’t be able to do anything

@hausplans

8 ай бұрын

Sounds like you’re doing a good job!

Good video! In my current home built in 2003 they used 4 such beams, two were in the garage as header beams and they were 3 1/2 x12” and two were holding up the staircase going to the basement, these were subs for 2x10’s and were 16’ long and 10” wide, they spanned from an I beam to the foundation wall. I did have a laminated beam in my garage (previous home) that was 20’ long across the whole front of the garage above the 16’ garage door. All of these are still working fine with no problems. Thanks.

Immediately gotta like with the Napoleon Dynamite scene 😂

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

👍😂😂

@pamelah6431

Жыл бұрын

LUCKYYYY

@HenryHustles615

Жыл бұрын

I’m here also to complement that epic Napoleon Dymanite scene , Immediately watching it after this 😂

My coworker who is a volunteer firefighter said these burn incredibly quickly and fail due to the glue burning/melting in case of a house fire. Not a deal breaker I guess, but something to keep in mind.

@ivanvarela3215

Жыл бұрын

Noted.

@Dogfrost5

Жыл бұрын

if the house is on Fire, most of it will need to be tore down and fixed anyways.

@somethingelse4424

Жыл бұрын

@@Dogfrost5 Right, but it matters in terms of how much time you have to escape or rescue people. The test they did was by placing a load on the beam and measuring how much time it could support the weight while on fire before collapsing. I forget what the specific number he claimed was, but it was significant. Like 1:4 or something. Either way you have to replace the structure, but it could potentially mean the difference between losing family members or not. This guy (my coworker) talks a big game too, and I'm repeating what he said to me. It could be bullshit, so don't take it as gospel...I don't doubt that he saw the test, but I might question his interpretation of the results. It was done by a rural volunteer fire department I think... so probably not peer reviewed science.

@mjwbulich

Жыл бұрын

​@@somethingelse4424 I think this would be something firefighters would need to be conserved with, not your average person. If you're in a structure so engulfed in flames that the beams are on fire you're probably already dead.

@njsification

Жыл бұрын

An lvl leaves more room for rock wool and other fire proof materials. This is such a non-point. Build you house out of concrete if burning is a serious concern.

I built my dad ramps for his truck with scraps from work , they're a bit heavy but boy do they ever hold well lol

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Nice

@JF32304

Ай бұрын

That would hold up a D11 cat.

Plywood by itself is pretty strong. Stacking it together makes it stronger. This type of lumber is pretty smart.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

👍

@JF32304

Ай бұрын

It's not just the stacking, it's the epoxy between the layers. Stuff is extremely strong. It has all that surface area for adhesion on all the layers, strong isn't even the word for it in all honesty. I would like to see tests being done to see how strong it really is.

I questioned that engineered lumber today when I was looking at a massive house being built down the street from me. I guess I was wrong. I just thought they can't acquire solid beams of the size anymore because it is too expensive. You should see the beams of my next-door neighbors house. Built in 1870. Beams are thick as hell. They just dont have trees thick enough anymore. House is solid as a rock. Boulder foundation as well

@andrewstorer4875

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it's not just about being able to manufacture a beam of whatever size is required. The weakest parts of a board or beam and where they are much more likely to fail under stress is usually where there are knots and other grain imperfections. LVLs address this not because the constituent vaneers don't have those imperfections, but because the imperfections are made smaller and distributed evenly throughout the beam, and there are no weak points like you see with conventional lumber.

@dynamicworlds1

Жыл бұрын

​@@andrewstorer4875kinda like how repeated foldings distributed any imperfections in steel back in medieval times before homogeneous industrial steel was invented.

@curtwarkentin2887

Жыл бұрын

Try pounding a 3" nail into that old wood. Dang near impossible. One of my old bosses had a barn built in the 1800's. He'd bet anyone they couldn't pound in a 3" nail and not bend it over. He never lost.

@MrVisde

Жыл бұрын

We had a tiny ranch house built in the 1940s. It was constructed with lumber forested from nearby Redwoods. The subfloor must’ve been 2-inch thick redwood planks. They don’t make them like that anymore.

I’m a crane operator and I set a decent amount of roof trusses and I’m always grabbing 2-3’ long pieces of scrap lvl when I can find them. I use them to help level my cribbing on uneven surfaces and increase the surface area of my pads.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Very cool

@JF32304

Ай бұрын

Those would absolutely work

I work construction and love watching the framers. I wish I could attain that skill but can't find the time.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

👍

Your active load source material is spot on. Pedro and Napoleon know things.😏 #voteforPedro

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

😂👍

Love that little info on the splice in the veneer. Thanks for sharing that.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

👍👍

I could only imagine the flack you received on the header Bro

@thepewplace1370

Жыл бұрын

No kidding. The average youtube comments section, from people who have no real world knowledge on the topic they're commenting on, is appalling. And I doubt many, if any, of those same commenters will check this video to see why they were dumb.

Whoa, I use LVL but never knew it could hold weight like that!

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

It’s crazy strong

@JF32304

Ай бұрын

And that's the weak version. Standing them up on end as you would use it in it's proper way is 10x+ probably.

I love LVL's they are very strong and great to work with!

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Agree

You sir, got a thumbs-up from me just for the solid Dynamite reference

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

😂😂👍

Yep, our framers sure love these!! 😅

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

👍

Educational, creative, and funny! Nice production skills😅

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! 😃

Great demo 😅

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Video just educated me. Thank you sir!

@hausplans

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

It really is some good stuff really strong

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Definitely

We had a big dilemma on a middle school we were building the basement utility room had way too sand in it, we needed to get it out to pour the floor, they were freaking out, I laughed and said give me some LDL and I made a ramp to run the skid-steer on and save them hundreds of thousands of dollars. Plus we used my LDL ramp to run power buggies on to pour the floor in the dam giant utility room😅 all I got was a pat on the back after saving them thousands of dollars

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome, way to think smart! Anything you can do like that to save money or keep from having to pay for an expensive concrete pump etc.

@jpa1282

Жыл бұрын

What's LDL?

@Nick-fr1rd

Жыл бұрын

It's lvl

@markcheveaux5191

Жыл бұрын

Damn that's a shame lad ....always the way

@terencemerritt

Жыл бұрын

LDL?

Awesome video! Vote for Pedro!

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

😂😂👍

Nice

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

👍

A tracked machine like that skid steer spreads its weight over a large area. A wheeled machine would be a lot better test. Also, when one side of the machine is higher than the other side there is a lot less weight on the elevated side.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Correct, but it was just a quick demonstration to show that they can hold a lot of weight

@justjames9775

Жыл бұрын

@@hausplans As an ironic side note, I drive a truck for a living, and frequently haul byproducts from the facility where the material that you were using is manufactured. Small world, I guess.

Strong wood product for sure but should be noted, tracks on machines spread the footprint out drastically, and only half the weight was on it. You didn't claim the full 9K was on it but just clarifying. Personally i think the single plank would've held it Side note - i had overlay tracks on my old Caterpillar wheeled skidsteer. they wore out and finally broke while on a job. I removed the other track so it was wheels only. Pulling on the trailer i broke through a cracked deck board and a good portion of wood fell beneath the trailer. This taught me the difference.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

That’s a good point. The track definitely spreads the weight out and also most of the weight was probably on the downhill track. All that being said that’s still a tremendous amount of weight. I thought about trying it with just one board but I didn’t wanna ruin one if it broke.

You ever take your skidsteer off any sweet jumps? Oh, I see you have.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 Great comment!

I've always been curious about how it behaves in a fire compared with solid lumber? Does the glue cause it to burn any differently? Does it off-gas any toxic fumes? Thanks.

I actually saw an inspector fail LVL used for window headers, Sprinfield, IL.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Wow

Cool explanation, always wondered what it was called. And damn, is it strong

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

👍

😮good video bro

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Next do LSL's. We used a bunch of them to stud a 27' tall wall. Rumor at the site I'm at the company ordered 2"X8"X30' LSL's at $300/piece. Super straight studs and perfectly sized.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Interesting, I’ve never use them. Sounds like they be great for something like that tall wall you built

@curtwarkentin2887

Жыл бұрын

@@hausplans they are basically the exact same as OSB plywood only different dimensions. And they are extremely straight not warped, crowned and twisted like normal dimensional lumber. I'm sure after time they could potentially twist, but we used up the ones that were ordered right after delivery so they didn't walk away. The big difference is I was told they can only be used vertically and not horizontally. So pretty much only used as wall studs... But that is purely second hand information I was given.

The problem I've had with these is alot of times the height of them differ and when u put 2 or 3 together usually gotta flush up one side and plane the other

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

I experienced that as well

Lvl's are great.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

💯

So awesome

@hausplans

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

Good practice is to keep the lvl tight to the top plate and build the opening down

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Normally holding them up is good but in this situation we wanted them above the door so we have something to attach the garage door springs and track to

I got a piece from a hardware store that was in the junk pile. It's not a big chongus but it's a beam that weighs a few pounds. Can't beat free.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Nice

I've been a carpenter for 50 years. Lam beams and LVL started being used extensively about 25-30 years ago. Up until then pretty much everything we built with was dimensional Lumber. Remember that Lam beams and ldls are all glued together. There is not a glue that has ever been developed that doesn't dry out. When it dries out it loses its strength. It's inevitable. During my last ten years I've had at least a dozen jobs propping up and trying to stiffen up these glue beams that had already started to give. I've also worked on 250 year old houses that were still structurally sound. It's planned obsolescence in the homebuilding industry.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Plywood is made with with glue as well and it’s been around a lot longer than 30 years and still no problems

@tomearnest198

Жыл бұрын

@@hausplans first of all plywood is not load bearing. Secondly I can't even begin to remember how many repair jobs I've done over the years where the plywood was so badly delaminated that it had to be replaced. And don't even get me going about TJI's.

@chris2pher44

Жыл бұрын

Sure it’s not a moisture problem?

@tomearnest198

Жыл бұрын

@@chris2pher44 well if it's a moisture problem it means the beams can't handle ambient moisture. In other words, normal humidity. Much like particle board which in humidity levels over 50% will swell up.

@chris2pher44

Жыл бұрын

@@tomearnest198 I’d be more worried about the mold before the lvl given out. Just saying maybe it’s your area but I haven’t heard/seen of any problems with them.

Next time try without the beams altogether , I'm sure that would work out just as well .

Whatever happened to gluelam’s, I remember using those in the late ‘90’s early 2000’s:)

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

I think they still make them you just don’t see him around as much as you used to

Ty

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

👍👍

@richardko1081

Жыл бұрын

$17.80 per foot in south California

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

It’s not cheap that’s for sure

This is my favorite channel. I'm a young mechanical designer and used to always struggle to interpret structural drawings to determine where my ducts and pipes can go since I don't have much field experience. I wish your videos were around a year ago!

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks so much! Best of luck to you! There seems to be a really high demand for engineers right now.

I have 4 enormous lvl beams running across my house. I would say it might be overkill for a 30x30 building but I’m happy with the construction

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Very cool 👍

So much easier to use engineered lumber vs a glue lam. A lot lighter in weight.

It actually looks beautiful

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

It does

Just lifted half a house the other day to get rid of archways downstairs to open up the view to the lake. 30ft and put up 4 just to be sure but was engineered for 3, nearly lost a fuckin finger cause myself and 3 others were lifting them off 9ft in the air on 2 bakers and myself plus a journeyman on ladders by hand to a hammered snug fit and the part timer next to me wasn’t paying attention and let go too soon

Watching the strength tests for lvl and lsl is crazy and cool. Humans can do crazy good once in a while😂 I can't say I'm sold on the lsl lu.ber for framing g though. Or those ridiculous t studs

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

👍

Im personally a fan of EFWV

engineer here I is (l*h^3)/12 for retangular sections. yea its WAY stronger vertical. when designing with it the stregnth isint an issue its buckleing so a lot they have to be doubled up for that.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

That makes sense👍

@juangomez4272

7 ай бұрын

Can an lvl beam be used for a porch 24ft long?

I work in construction in Australia, mainly structural steel and equipment repair, I want to say I've either never seen boards like that or we don't have them here. We have thick 4x4 lengths made of constructed timber but no way is it close to that strong. I wonder why?

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

That’s interesting

Ply wood?

Damn...that's strong A F!

60 foot! Wow.

I'm sure it's strong but what if you put the weight directly across the middle, not length wise? And used a longer board where the cinder block was not supporting most of the skid steer's weight. Pretty sure you could have done the same thing with a 2 x 8 or equivalent to the LVL. Short means stronger.

I question that single jack over 7 foot width

LVL is cool fo sho. But why is it stronger? Straighter, yes, but why is it stronger? *I'm asking because it's not completely obvious and I'm sure others may like to know, too. (Of course I can Google, but writing to strangers on internet is more fun.)

@stompingpeak2043

Жыл бұрын

It's multiple layers compressed together. So it's basically a weaved hardwood at maximum density. Where natural woods have much more give and have to follow natural grain structures.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Also there are no knots or defects so it can be rated at its highest level. Natural lumber is underrated to account for some of the boards having flaws

@peterparker9286

Жыл бұрын

​@@stompingpeak2043yes exactly. Not to mention the Super Glue...

@beru58

Жыл бұрын

What will happen with the strength should it get wet and swell?

@stompingpeak2043

Жыл бұрын

@@beru58 it's treated wood.

I noticed these lvl's have a yellow tint type color on the finished product. Is this painted or some kind of stain for water protection? How is this done? Just curious

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Most LVL has a wax-based sealer specifically for laminated veneer lumber to help to protect that during storage and Construction. This wax is not meant for long-term protection.

Gravity would be putting most of the weight on the other track

@Jarrettmonty99

Жыл бұрын

not how gravity works bro. the same gravity is on both sides and that's why it weighs 9000lbf

@michaelcorreia9728

Жыл бұрын

That’s actually exactly how it works

@michaelcorreia9728

Жыл бұрын

The center of mass would no longer be in the middle of the machine it would be more towards the side on the pavement

@Jarrettmonty99

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelcorreia9728 no, center of mass is constant. center of gravity would change, which I suppose is consistent with your original comment. But it wouldn't be most of the weight shifted. It'd be an imbalance like sin (90 + 15), so .95:1.05

Just don't get them wet , rain , moisture starts breakdown of the glue quickly ,

Made in studs now too.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Yup

Do these expand and shrink like natural timber?

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

No

I was one of the commenters. Glad to be proved wrong

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

👍thanks for watching the channel

I'm a bricklayer and have often had to remove temporary props that have 30 nails in them (for some fucked up reason) I can confirm how tough these lvl beams are.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

😂

how long does it last?

I love LVL but I’m from Florida. If you don’t do everything humanly possible to protect LVL from the elements, moisture and salt are bound to ruin it. That being said, I did make a planter out of scraps three years ago and though it’s curled like a toenail, it’s still in one piece.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Interesting

@juangomez4272

7 ай бұрын

What about a treated lvl for Florida?

Where do you purchase this I'm kind of new to this market DIY person ..

@hausplans

10 ай бұрын

Almost all lumberyards carry LVL

I cant find that in France

Shouldve drove perpendicular on the lvl with the bobcat. The wheels distributed the weight way to thinly in ur vid

Love the Napoleon humour 😂

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

😂

just plywood or no?

Can I support my roof ridge with 2- 1 3/4" x 16" lvls nailed together, equalling 3 1/2"x 16" spanning a length of 26' without any support beams or load bearing walls under the lvl? Thanks.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

It depends on the size of your roof and the snow load in your area. It would be best to consult with a structural engineer.

@Pablo_19_26

Жыл бұрын

@@hausplans what exactly do you mean by "the size" of my roof? As far as snow, I live in west texas so snow isn't really an issue.

@henra2244

Жыл бұрын

Well he obviously means the area size of the roof and the span of the rafters buddy. Force times distance, it matters in engineering 🤡

4500 pounds on the FLAT ladies and gentlemen…

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

😂

Why not hold your headers up to the plates and frame down to get the ro?

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Because we need the headers to attach the garage door motors and rails to, etc.

@BryanL1982

Жыл бұрын

@HAUS PLANS blocking? I guess I've had too many clients change their minds about opening sizes or apprentices screwing up trimmer heights, usually blocking for the motor and rails works pretty well.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

You’re right about clients changing sizes and it definitely makes it easier in that situation👍

Fuck yeah, thank you for the Napoleon Dynamite clips

faith in humanity restored

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

😂

Looks like "Marine Plywood"

is that a sledgehammer...

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

My buddy made car ramps by gluing strips of plywood into a pyramid design and they were stronger than concrete

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Nice

we are producing lvl beams and lvl plywood in china , LVL beams very strong and more and more popular used at house building

@hausplans

7 ай бұрын

The ones in this video were made in the USA

@DemiZheng-mg6zd

7 ай бұрын

wonderful, hope have chance cooperation, check out ours LVL beams how is it look@@hausplans

Lvl doesn’t hold up to water damage at all so if it gets wet for any length of time it’s garbage

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Most the LVL comes with a wax or a sealer to protect it during the construction process. But you’re right long-term exposure to water can cause it to delaminate.

If you need something bigger than 390mm, use steel, much cheaper

It would be more useful to do an actual measured strength test and compare it to something.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Good idea

So, LVL is plywood?

@hausplans

9 ай бұрын

It’s similar to plywood, yes

Is it more expensive?

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

Yes

Not really a great example of the strength due to fact that the weight of that machine is spread out across the length of that track

The track loader test didn’t prove anything because the weight on a attack is evenly distributed, so effectively you weren’t putting as much weight in the LVL compared to if you had used a wheeled skid steer. A better test with the track loader would have been to put your bucket down at the mid point and then push down to lift the entire machine up and point load the beam. That would truly illustrate the beam’s strength.

@IAldana123

Жыл бұрын

It was only supported on the ends so those parts were still carrying the full weight.

Ah yes. Splinter bricks.

AKA THICK PLYWOOD BEAMS

People dont understand the weakest part of glued wood is the wood

@hausplans

9 ай бұрын

That’s correct!

*Louis Vuitton Lumber*

"Because it's man-made, it's better..." man, I wish that just was a reliable and true premise. See: "Made in China"

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

The beams in this video made in the USA

It may be strong, but to do a true test, your load should occupy no more than 1/3 of the span and be centered in the span.

Yo this is why my house is not finished?!?!?! 😂 jk man thank you for the video, and you're welcome for the joke 😊

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

👍😂

😂 Napoleon Dynamite: perfect! 😎✌️

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

👍👍😂

LVL is so expensive. It's overkill in the vast majority of cases. 2-2x12 can handle some big openings and is dirt cheap comparatively. Use tables effectively and don't overbuild.

LVL much better than those flammable, easy to water damage, OSB I-Joists they are using these days.

Fun fact, that lvl isn't holding up your skid steer. The tracks of the skid steer are holding up the skid steer. That's why it's got tracks, because the load is distributed along the length. Drive your skid steer across a 2ft ditch and low and behold it won't snap in half.

@hausplans

Жыл бұрын

That’s not true, the tracks were completely on the LVL and were past where it was supported by the cinderblocks. I agree the tracks spread out the weight evenly, but LVL was still supporting the weight

Not even close to 4500 lbs, more of the weight is being shifted to the lower side.

Don't they call that plywood