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@sammythewhammy69

3 жыл бұрын

If only they sold in the Uk

@christiandrinnon2486

3 жыл бұрын

I love you guys and am wearing a Kentucky cobra hat to show love

@kanizfatima3113

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Donut Media!

@floridaman4072

3 жыл бұрын

What happened to science garage and the host of it?

@1ossksa

3 жыл бұрын

You forget to mention that most companies didn't made cheap mid-engine car is because safety. Transfer the engine and gearbox to the back will make most of the weight behind driver seat. So, when you got accident from front you will get a lot more damage and might die easily.

All the manufacturers putting deadlines on switching to 100% electric makes me sad… need more funds to buy up all the classics I grew up with before they skyrocket even more in price!

@huleyn135

3 жыл бұрын

I mean I guess most electric cars are mid engined in a way?

@omaralkayal7598

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately that well happen eventually that everything would be electric 💔

@TornadoOfSouls777

3 жыл бұрын

Crazy thing is that about half of EV owners go back to IC after their EV experience..

@RPD___

3 жыл бұрын

Same 🥲

@Jagaman

3 жыл бұрын

@@TornadoOfSouls777 Based on what? You can't just say something without evidence.

This boomer advocated for change 57 years ago! I was a model car building kid, and in 1964 I modified a model Corvette to be mid engine. It won a local contest and then got shipped to California to the Revell National contest. It won honorable mention. I still have the clipping out of the May 1965 issue of Car Model magazine. Guess I was a little ahead of my time. Love your channel!

@angelgjr1999

3 жыл бұрын

Technically most American RWD cars are front-mid engine cars. The engines are usually mounted behind the front wheels.

@tedecker3792

3 жыл бұрын

Angel Gutierrez that’s not that often, most have the engine between the front wheels. Give me some common examples where the engine is behind the front axle.

@rudey0n10

3 жыл бұрын

@@tedecker3792 z06, viper, zl1, some other cars but it's common

@CanadaBud23

3 жыл бұрын

@@rudey0n10 Even Jeeps have most of the engine behind the front wheels.

@jeebus2121

3 жыл бұрын

Zora Arkus-Duntov was born in 1906.

I owned three different MR2’s and I can honestly say that the mid engine car was an amazingly fun drive.

@sugamai

2 жыл бұрын

Do you regret selling them if you did?

@AdultsAreTalking

Жыл бұрын

I've had 2 different gen MR2's, SW20 & ZZW10. Needless to say, I hated driving the W10. It handled like absolute garbage but it was fun to sit in a drop-top MR2. On the other hand, the SW20 was incredible in every aspect. It's weird how polarizing both experiences were.

@kekethetoad

Жыл бұрын

@@AdultsAreTalking Everyone I've read and seen review MR2's say that the zzw10 by far handles the best of the 3. You just don't like the look of it and probably drive with boxing gloves and bricks strapped to your feet lol.

@AdultsAreTalking

Жыл бұрын

@@kekethetoad yyyyeaahhhhh do better research 😅 I owned the car and you read articles. Your argument is invalid buddy.

@kekethetoad

Жыл бұрын

@@AdultsAreTalking oooh riiiight so it's countless youtubers who'd owned and/or back-to-back compared, and trackday engineers, vs your 12vie tier take that matches your avatar, and I'm supposed to defer to you because "dO beTteR rEEEseaRCH"... **cringe**

I'm happy to have finally afforded a Porsche Boxster and I'm enjoying it before this kind of cars die in the future!

"Maybe Dodge will...nah" mid engined Hellcat Neon coupe. Do it!

@leok3347

3 жыл бұрын

could take c8 platform for that but to keep it affordable a cheeky srt4 engine in stripped down c8 platform could yield interesting results! inspiring idea Will :D

@stevedeleon8775

3 жыл бұрын

Will...it aint gonna happen Production wise...BUT some crazy tech out there may create something

@leok3347

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevedeleon8775 can always Polemise about these ideas maybe some engineer is gonna read it ? huh? :D

@attacoustic5926

3 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure a mid engine Viper could be sick…

@MoosesquadonPC

3 жыл бұрын

neon my beloved

Shigeki Tomoyama wants to see the revival of the MR2, could still happen.

@stupidsnek

3 жыл бұрын

I bet it'll be electric.

@bullymaguire8868

3 жыл бұрын

Won't be cheap

@FBISHOJI

3 жыл бұрын

@@stupidsnek or hybrid

@bootafromune1

3 жыл бұрын

What about the Hyundai rm20 n? It's a Hyundai,

@rushilkanani4047

3 жыл бұрын

Won't be as cheap as it used to be, I think

“ Maybe we just keep them alive ourselves by workin on them” The Great Nolan. I Felt that brother. 🤙🏼

The only thing left for Toyota now is to bring back the fucking MR2. They got the 86 and the Supra. JUST DO IT

@larryroyovitz7829

2 жыл бұрын

They won't. As it is the 86 and Supra are barely theirs in the first place.

@TheAzther1

Жыл бұрын

Actually... there are rumors that say that Toyota will bring back the MR2 as an EV or hybrid car. I don't know why they didn't mention it here.

@AugmentedGravity

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAzther1 Noo not an EV…

Polar moment of inertia in this example applies to the car's ability to turn not with acceleration. The rear engine weight on the back tires is what help acceleration but not moment of inertia.

@peppinoesposito5465

3 жыл бұрын

i was flabberghasted when I watched what they said. Pretty embarassing.

@mshef140

3 жыл бұрын

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@dirty_haute

3 жыл бұрын

MR2 is literally named for the formula. The closer the center of mass is to the center of the vehicle, the less torque is needed to rotate the car to yaw it.

@alexreavie

3 жыл бұрын

The explanation in the video was flat out wrong. Why make an explainer video when you don't understand yourself?

@RuggedIrish

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed this too. Very disappointing. Very embarrassing. Upsetting even that their viewers would be misled this way. The concept is correct but applied incorrectly. Jeremiah's other video with the basketball and broomstick was more sensible in conveying why a Starlet is harder to drift than a Chaser. Yaw is the point not power loss due to drivetrain length. And a driver generally has more time to feel and react to the longer car with higher polar moment and larger overhangs than the smaller car with lower polar moment and wheels set at the furthest corners: Chaser is easier. Flickable and responsive over stable is the recipe for race. The MR layout is for center of gravity, weight transfer, and power delivery (i.e. with least amount of loss to the drivetrain) optimizations. All this yields the most balanced use of the tires to go fast in spite of "stability sacrifices." Stability then comes from the driver's skill, aero, and nannies. Bad form, Guys.

I would have loved the MR2 revived with the Supra. Maybe even more than the Supra.

@larryroyovitz7829

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. With a turbo charged 2GR-FE, that thing would be amazing.

The first car that comes to my brain of cheap, mid-engine, still on sale, is the Honda S660. Sadly, it is about to discontinue in March of 2022.

@fergar0206

3 жыл бұрын

I heard they were gonna bring that to the US. Did they actually?

@taj-sid

3 жыл бұрын

@@fergar0206 I believe its JDM only.

@KrashKan

Жыл бұрын

@@viniciusbraga9881 if they threw the turbo 1.5 from the civic si it would have been an amazing car for the US. so sad it is discontinued.

Damn, the whole crew at Donut really improved a lot. Nolan and James really got a lot more confident in their public speaking and presentation and it really does a lot for their content. Nolan is killing it, and so are all the other hosts and supporting staff at donut! 😃

@Artynos_YT

Жыл бұрын

When Max became director I think it really tightened up their presentation.

"cheap mid engined cars are never coming back" Me: *commuting to work daily onboard mid engined Toyota HiAce shuttle vans*

@bonelesswatermelon420

3 жыл бұрын

@@bhr788 take off the van body and we got ourselves one last chance to make mid engined cars cheap again Not saying it would be any good, but fck it mid engined is mid engined

@bhr788

3 жыл бұрын

@@bonelesswatermelon420 I like this attitude

@rogehmarbi

3 жыл бұрын

Suzuki carry all day long mate

@riversider2506

3 жыл бұрын

Are you from South Africa by any chance tho 🤔?? Because we use these TOYOTA'S as taxis here 🤷‍♂️

@hoihaha1

3 жыл бұрын

Renault Twingo is mid engined and is around 10k new

"For a supercar, you want rwd" Shows awd car

@57F100

3 жыл бұрын

I was thonking the same thing!

@nagyandras8857

3 жыл бұрын

Yupp.. You want awd with a torsen diff in the transfer case.

@ignacios1562

3 жыл бұрын

i love how these guys state things like they knew about cars, cracks me up every time

@57F100

3 жыл бұрын

@@ignacios1562 it's the editor, he also spells brakes "breaks"

@arnehurnik

3 жыл бұрын

Pretend he said RWD biased platform.

Didn't expect them to not mention while under braking, the mid engine layout also benefits tire traction for braking when weight shift to the front and spread the load more evenly for all 4 tires.

Just a small correction here: The Alfa Romeo 4C uses the engine found in the Alfa Romeo 159 1750 TBI, albeit with its own tune. And that is a FWD, transverse engined car. Love you Nolan, Donut and the whole team. You guys are the best!

5:31 fun fact, that's exactly how the MR2 was born. That's why there's tie rods in the back of the car.

@nutandboltguy3720

3 жыл бұрын

Fiat X1/9 was the same way.

@AllonKirtchik

3 жыл бұрын

Does that mean you could jerry-rig all-wheel steering?

@pknerdzz

3 жыл бұрын

@@AllonKirtchik yup people put electric steering racks on the back of them

@Milkmans_Son

3 жыл бұрын

@@pknerdzz That sounds like the worst idea ever.

@AllonKirtchik

3 жыл бұрын

@@pknerdzz yay! Crab walking MR2s!

10:33 but the only way we're gonna be able to do this is by SIGNING THE RPM ACT

I bought an MR2 Spyder dirt cheap, and fell in love with it. Threw a hardtop on and looking at engine swaps. Thinking 2AR with some spooly boi’s for good measure.

Loving my elise, bought for the price of an accord and ain't depreciating so love the mid engine life

Shoutout to all the MR2s out there 🤙🏼

@zokusharuuku1091

2 жыл бұрын

Love my mr2 spyder!

@btrain213

2 жыл бұрын

Also shoutout to anyone owning a fiero

@jjjones537jj

2 жыл бұрын

Sw20 gang for life lol

@RobertSmith-wu1eb

2 жыл бұрын

Best cheap mid engine car of the 90s........ Pontiac fiero gt 🎤

@jdmpowa9913

2 жыл бұрын

Love my sw20 rev1

I’ve been hearing from you guys how cheap the C8 corvette is for years.

@ybkboost

3 жыл бұрын

he means something like a 30 or 40k car that’s cheap with like around 200-300 hp you know

@huleyn135

3 жыл бұрын

It's cheap in that it's a bargain for a sports car of that performance, but you can't ever buy a truly cheap car anymore if you don't need the luxury or 500 horsepower.

@pmygoddamn

3 жыл бұрын

Relatively, is the keyword

@DomzyDX

3 жыл бұрын

@@ybkboost a 2-3 year old cayman or boxster fits that price range and has nearly 400 hp

@ybkboost

3 жыл бұрын

@@DomzyDX well yeah but that doesn’t really count because we’re discussing new cars. by that logic I could say that this video is false because I could buy an mr2 for 5k

The polar moment of inertia explanation is mostly okay except for how it applies to mid-engine cars. The advantage is for turning as the densest part of the car, the engine, is closer to where the car rotates for the turn. The front end being lighter is also helps with turning.

I love how he called it on dodge making a 1k horsepower car lmao. The 2023 Demon 170 is insane. 1,025 HP to the wheel stock out the factory.

Honda made a mid-engine roadster, the S660, from 2015 until March of this year, though only in Japan.

@CarsOfPennsylvania

2 жыл бұрын

After a quick google search... that's a weird ass looking car. It's an uglier Tamo Racemo

@thatcopenguy

2 жыл бұрын

and it's going away next year :( though it had a good run though & met Honda's initial sales expectations. That thing is a real gem and was a properly engineered sports car.

@Doman9191

2 жыл бұрын

@@CarsOfPennsylvania Looks like if NSX was newborn child.

@Debesukaleejs

2 жыл бұрын

@@Doman9191 like an NSX that has shrunk in the wash

@lukaslanger8077

2 жыл бұрын

Its a kei-car, those only exist in Japan, dude.

"For a sports car, you want rear wheel drive" *uses a bugatti, which is all wheel drive*

@cholodesanfe87

3 жыл бұрын

All wheels don’t have the same power coming of em the back still gets more power coming out on most sport AWD cars

@MJ-uk6lu

3 жыл бұрын

It's not a sports car, it's top speed car. It's not lightweight and isn't particularly sporty to drive and yeah it can't turn well.

@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts

3 жыл бұрын

@@MJ-uk6lu i guarantee it will handle a lot better than you'd expect for a car of that weight.

@MJ-uk6lu

3 жыл бұрын

@@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts I don't care about feels. Veyron may get beaten by stock MR2 on tight track like Tsukuba.

@veridico84

3 жыл бұрын

@@MJ-uk6lu I'm very certain that a veyron will beat a stock mr2 on Tsukuba, easily.

9:46 Nolan hitting the nail on the head with this one

I just bought a 2001 MR2 2 weeks ago. Awesome to see newer videos still giving them some love.

these ads are evolving, eventually james is just gonna walk into an episode of rick and morty

@ilham7345

3 жыл бұрын

isn't most of donut media was an employee at adult swim?

@manthandave9915

3 жыл бұрын

It's like watching interdimension cable

Its always about money, literally the reason for almost everything is money.

@quillmaurer6563

3 жыл бұрын

Almost as if the entire reason manufacturers make cars is to earn money... It's a frustrating reality, I'll agree with that, there's so many things I've thought of that would be so cool but clearly not economically viable. And who am I to talk, I drive an almost 50 year old car because nothing made more recently has interested me.

@omaralkayal7598

3 жыл бұрын

@@quillmaurer6563 What car do you drive ? Am curious to know

@James-May

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly, if they will build the cars enthusiasts want, it'll be very expensive.

@triliner254

3 жыл бұрын

@@omaralkayal7598 Yeah me too, super curious to know.

@anydaynow01

3 жыл бұрын

It may be a kit car but the Factory Five 818 says, hold my Subaru or Ford powered beer! www.factoryfive.com/818/

Nolan predicted the demon 170

Thank you for the captions! Much appreciated. The video is awesome. Looking forward to more Donut Media vids! And I’m curious what’s the next topic on Up to Speed… you guys are the best.

"bye celicia"

@zenythgaming6705

3 жыл бұрын

Thought the same thing lol

@FormaCodex_5-7

3 жыл бұрын

The Celica is Front-Engined, Front-Wheel-Drive/4-wheel-drive

Jeremiah, your explanation of how the polar moment of inertia affects a car is incorrect and completely confusing. A lower polar moment helps with cornering (since the tires need less force to change orientation of the car). The weight distribution on the rear tires helps with acceleration (assuming RWD). You were mixing up a lot of things.

@johncrafton8319

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he botched it pretty badly. He applied the concept to tire rotation, rather than car rotation on the horizontal plane. Almost seems like he just looked it up and made an assumption as to its application, rather than doing real research on it.

@Volker2119

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this made me disliked this video. It looks like Jeremiah did not find the nice upper projection of a mid-engined car :)

@Durandal475

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, wrong and full of self. One could say "Ah, millennials..." if wanting to be an equivalent generalising labeller, which sucks.

@jordanweimer788

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, my dad didn’t hug me enough either!

@octanegamer1576

3 жыл бұрын

Also Jeremiah forgot that a car's constant variable is gravity and difference between MR and FR is the center of gravity which helps with cornering. Also car with a MR setup lose less power than FR due to the distance from the engine to the wheels.

I have been an owner of a 1991 MR2 Turbo for 23 years and still love it for being different.

Great video, kia needs to make a smaller stinger mid engined, there really is a potential gain for someone who makes one rn could be the next miata

I guess I'll keep my 1987 Pontiac Fiero Sport..it's up on stands in my garage...gonna get it back on the road next year..

@ol_smokey9370

3 жыл бұрын

I have an irrational love of Fieros some day I'll buy one for shits and giggles.

@stevedeleon8775

3 жыл бұрын

@@ol_smokey9370 you better hurry ...now that used cars are going crazy up in price those Fieros will be sought after..🤑

@ol_smokey9370

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevedeleon8775 maybe next year i just bought a 2000 Mustang GT with a rod knock. Thats my winter project lol

@stevedeleon8775

3 жыл бұрын

@@ol_smokey9370 there you go my Amigo... You & I have projects..my wife wants me to get the Fiero back on the road ..we had good times driving around when we first met..hoping to have good times again..✌👍

@ivancastellanos9484

3 жыл бұрын

87 fiero here 😎 my uncle bought it off the dealership new back in the day and sold it to my dad years later then my father gave it to me on my 16th birthday. We recently took off the seat covers a couple years back and they looked like they barely got off the dealership. Beautiful car that I will keep for the rest of my life

I feel like all of the good stuff that we love about cars is going away. Being able to work on your own car, the analog feel, fun cars being somewhat affordable. Cars are becoming more like phones, and will soon be a subscription service.

@axeavier

3 жыл бұрын

If you want to work on your own car, then get involved politically on right to repair. If people just whine, then it won't happen Not sure about analogue feel since there have always been power assisted steering, and buttons have only went away with the tesla, many other makers still have it.

@jcorkable

3 жыл бұрын

A subscription service that doesn’t even let you opt out of personal data collection or the monthly butt-fucking…

@hectorvega621

3 жыл бұрын

@@axeavier Also to prevent Car Manufacturers from Planning to Purposely make their Cars Obsolete in a couple of years. We need to be environmental, and frankly making more Cars isn't environmental as repairing or upgrading it yourself.

@axeavier

3 жыл бұрын

@@hectorvega621 making more cars whether it's EV or ICE will continue to happen but at least in the long run EV will have greater benefits. Nevertheless, repairing and buying better quality stuff is a good idea with everything. People keep buying trash made in china but there are many fantastic products made in USA, you just have to google it.

@hectorvega621

3 жыл бұрын

@@axeavier Honestly, not necessarily out of Quality of Product, but a Plus side. Having thing's built here does lower the Carbon emissions from less Transportation. I don't know about price, but hey, Quality does help make it worth. Plus Job's coming back.

These are legit the most enriching episodes of content you guys make. This specific series, with Nolan, is fucking badass.

The reason I love this channel isn’t just the effort they put into the videos but the roasts

Ohh man.. Lotus be like "I did the Emira. Why Toyota didn't want to Gazoo-ed my car. It will be an awesome *GR-2* man not gonna lie"

@willedsmithmo

3 жыл бұрын

Those Toyota V6's can be sick, Baby 💪💜🙌

@willedsmithmo

3 жыл бұрын

Plus those Emira's are beaaaauuutiful, in my humble opinion 😍👌 (Curious to drive one!)

@neovenom9833

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure the top seller of the Emira will be the one with the 2.0 turbo mercedes engine the same in the A class AMG.

@willedsmithmo

3 жыл бұрын

@@neovenom9833 that shit will also be wild, mon Frere 👌

@arphmd

3 жыл бұрын

@@willedsmithmo Right? Emira are beautiful, both interior and exterior. IMO, pre-Emira models were so weight-stricted, the interior looks like a straight out race-car. It's cool but not appealing to masses. Clients were more to e.g Nissan GT-Rs, 'Ecoboost' Ford Mustangs, 'M-sport' BMWs, also an 'AMG-line' Mercedes'. These masses are the groups that only drive DCTs, and small-sized powerful engine, with high safety techs.

Dodge totally needs to build that 1000 hp Satan before EV's takeover

@nathanjoseph4284

3 жыл бұрын

Or build that dam Chrysler Pacifica Hellcat

@Daniel-eg9wo

3 жыл бұрын

@hv a happy day wth i thought its a rickroll

@lighteningbolt6397

3 жыл бұрын

Just put a hemi in everything

@chab4334

3 жыл бұрын

They just showed a trailer on instagram that they making an electric

@MariuszChr

3 жыл бұрын

@@nathanjoseph4284 Imagine putting RWD drivetrain in FWD platform... No, they will not.

Maybe I'm missing something. The entire car would never rotate instead on the wheel so the weight being further away would be negligible. I DO see how placing the weight closer to the traction point and more balance gained by being distributed more evenly throughout the vehicle would definitely have advantages in handling and performance but that's another story. By the way, EXCELLENT channel and graphics! I just found you guys and BOY do you explain concepts in a manner that's easy to understand. Subbed.

Great video! As an MG - TF owner, I am keeping my mid engine to my kid, and will add more mid engine ones.

as a future MR2 owner, this just makes me sad

@jimmy-buffett

3 жыл бұрын

Even if Toyota did sell another MR2, you know they wouldn't build it themselves. If you want a sportscar built by Toyota these days, you have to buy a Lexus.

@mikehawk6175

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimmy-buffett true. They probably would’ve collabed with lotus and likely given us something between an exige and an evora. Still would’ve been better than nothing tho

@taodobbins5621

3 жыл бұрын

As a current mr2 owner, this is why I bought a Mr2

@jimmy-buffett

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikehawk6175 Especially if it has a Toyota powerplant, unlike the collaborations with Subaru (86) and BMW (Supra). Then the problem becomes how you price it less than the Supra (as the MR2 always was before). If it's more / better than the Supra then it starts to cut into Lexus RC-F sales, which seems to be why the Supra was given its current price/performance limitations.

@cmhidalgo

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimmy-buffett yeah I think they are better off not making another mr2. Look at the supra lol. The ft1 concept looked ok but for some reason production new supra I have mixed feelings. But for some reason I like the c8 lol

RIP Pontiac, Fiero and the MR2. The Mach-E is not a Mustang!

@araz_car_enthusiast

3 жыл бұрын

#endelectriccars

@limprooster3253

3 жыл бұрын

The only mustang less mustang than a mustang ii

@quillmaurer6563

3 жыл бұрын

The Mach-E is probably a pretty decent vehicle, a good next step for Ford. But the Mustang name shalt not be applied to an SUV. I don't care whether it's electric or gas, the Mustang is a coupe, not an SUV. All I can figure is that they wanted to make a big splash, get people talking about it, and disparaging a legendary name is an effective way of doing that - in the world of marketing all publicity is good publicity, and this outrage sure has gotten people talking. Had they just made the "Mach-E" electric SUV (Tesla Model X competitor), just like a lot of other companies are these days, hardly anyone would have noticed.

@darthmaul216

3 жыл бұрын

Ford should have sold the Mach-E as the model E or made the Mach-e look more like a mustang

@limprooster3253

3 жыл бұрын

@@quillmaurer6563 Exactly. They're selling us a gelding and telling us its a stud

Man, whomever does your animations and graphics sure is great!

I love watching Donut Media. You guys are awesome 😎

Pretty sure the physics explanation was wrong. The benefit of having a lower moment of inertia is in the corners, by having the mass closer to the rear axle that isn’t turning, the front can go left and right without as much resistance, all they explained was that it’s easier to wheelie with a mid engine car lol.

@kylefinnegan6256

3 жыл бұрын

I was hoping someone would comment on this! I was thinking the exact same thing!

@2lotusman851

3 жыл бұрын

rear axle is turning. Cars turn about their Center of Gravity at speed. Turn about their rear axle at parking lot speed.

@flavortown3781

3 жыл бұрын

It's both, it does both

@jamesegan6097

3 жыл бұрын

@@2lotusman851 yea good point, but the mid-engine layout helps with that too because it’s mass is close to the center of gravity

“Resistant to change just like the BOOMERS” 😂😂😂 Grey man in the comments is a boomer

@LooseWheelFilms

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@aye3678

3 жыл бұрын

literally had me laughing out loud 😂

@LegacyGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Decent vid till the boomer dig, i try to escape that crap with my car content

@porkchopgaming3980

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@Meekmillan

3 жыл бұрын

@@LegacyGarage as time goes on I realize this channel is pandering more to the youth. I'm just glad Money Pit isn't getting wack.

Thanks Donut, for single handedly doubling the value of my mr2 over night!

Nolan: "I can't do science, here's a guy who can." Jeremiah: "Here's an animation where the car spins the WRONG DIRECTION for what I'm explaining." (Unless the car was in reverse gear.)

@caralho5237

3 жыл бұрын

i didnt get his point he just proved that front engine cars have a harder time doing wheelies

@ianteare-thomas8604

3 жыл бұрын

He also talked about how having a lower moment of inertia allows the car to put more power to the road??? that little segment seemed pretty scuffed.

If Toyota would release a new version of the MR2, they'll probably partner with Porsche to do it, and depending on what power train they'll put in it, it still won't be cheap. Just saying.

@kalenmeisner9966

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't Toyota have a thing with Lotus? I think that would make more sense but your point about cost still stands

@user-zc2hz3yj2k

3 жыл бұрын

@@kalenmeisner9966 Toyota supplied engines and a couple of other things for Lotus. But, that is about it.

@Dayashii

3 жыл бұрын

Actually they would probably partner with Lotus tbh

@DemiDemiGlace

3 жыл бұрын

GRMR-2 MR kit

@damilolaakanni

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dayashii but Lotus is going full EV after their next car...and they have more of a partnership with Mercedes/AMG than Toyota.

Okay the ad shows y’all have the animation capabilities… waiting on the Ford vs. Ferrari animé

@tomfriederick9090

3 жыл бұрын

I’m waiting for the animate short of the Thomas Edison/Henry Ford camping 69 scene

@Anvarynn

3 жыл бұрын

Why the hell did you put an accent on the e?

Yo the production (especially the animations, big props to them!) is so tight on this! 3:20

@philipm3173

3 жыл бұрын

And the music is dope too, love the upright bass.

5:01 My Ms3 is a 4th gear twisty road carving machine, Mazda is the company who could really do well making rwd mid engines and jump back into mazdaspeed with a fresh, non luxury line revived specifically for quick modular mid engines that come in awd, fwd, and rwd

Centrally locating the engine more importantly reduces the YAW inertia. Good animations and all, but get this straight

@florianix8272

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I noticed exactly the same please fix that

@limprooster3253

3 жыл бұрын

They show the car spinning backwards anyway

@phyotyla

3 жыл бұрын

The explanation was so wrong that I wasn't sure if it was a joke.

@mabamabam

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty fundamental mistake. He did successfully explain wheelie cars though. Because you definitely want your super car flipping over backwards.

@SafffOneee

3 жыл бұрын

i was surprised to hear their explanation but it makes sense, but am v surprised they didn;t mention u want weight toward the rear for better handling (neutral is best but faster to have slight oversteer than understeer)

Donut: No one is making a cheap mid engine car! Lotus: makes emira...

@squeakers27

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, especially with Golf Rs being 40k 😳

@jesseocegueda1273

3 жыл бұрын

Donut: We'll just throw in this news clipping of the Emira Lotus: Look at our affordable mid engine car! Donut: Wait, that doesn't match the title Donut: DON'T mention the EMIRA!

Sw10 & 20 are some of the most beautiful cars ever made imo. The fact that they were more or less everyman cars was even better. Car brands barely even make sports cars anymore, even if we consider hot hatches. Yeah...the era of affordable mid-engine cars or even affordable sports cars is over

@AdultsAreTalking

Жыл бұрын

There's no SW10

Nice, but you forgot the $18-27,000 Honda S660. Last of the affordable mid ship sports cars? Sadly discontinued after this year too. I’m lucky enough to have one and it’s absolutely a riot,

I'm open to EV's once they come down in price. Some irony in the comment's section about boomers being resistant to change when this is true for most of the car community. (and people in general)

@4thImpulse

3 жыл бұрын

Tuner vs EV seems like it'll be the new Muscle vs Tuner, at least when those prices come down in another decade.

@danielm6049

3 жыл бұрын

I feel electric has a way to go, and isn't the answer.

@user-zc2hz3yj2k

3 жыл бұрын

Its because ICE cars give plenty of things to be modified. Engine swap, custom exhaust, custom turbo setup, etc. But, in an EV. What awesome modification are there to do? Body kits maybe? Changing the motors? You have to pray that other manufacturers doesn't pull a Tesla. And allows it. I'm not 100% against EV. But, by the looks of it ICE will slowly but surely be completely ban someday. That makes me feel a little bit salty about EVs.

@supermutant01

3 жыл бұрын

Driving an EV belongs at the fun fair, not on the public road. 👍

@dbclass4075

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-zc2hz3yj2k Motor recoiling, magnet swap, rewiring of batteries and motors for greater power flow, etc. Electric drivetrain is more complicated than it seems (although still simpler than ICE, in terms of amount of moving parts).

The Lotus Emira was just announced as another mid engine car that starts at $60k

@ocallaghan3865

3 жыл бұрын

Honda made multiple versions of the honda S660 all under 20k

@samueljones3668

3 жыл бұрын

@@ocallaghan3865 But those never sold outside of Japan and you'll be damned to get a used one under 20k rn.

@MarloSoBalJr

3 жыл бұрын

The last iCE to be built by Lotus😩

@toshls8190

3 жыл бұрын

60K GBP Which will probably equate to around $75k USD when it crosses the pond. Also the base spec is almost always unavailable by dealers and mostly only used for marketing purposes..

@lynnmckenney1987

3 жыл бұрын

Isnt the entry level mid engine vette around 60k?

You have to remember that the corvette is a constant evolution. To me it’s the only car that is consistently changing the way the car looks. Also, the marketing team sounds lazy. ‘We can’t sell a car no one knows about….’. Isn’t that their entire job?

10:17 you did some research 👏 glad you mentioned that not too many people know about that

8:16 Nolan: Maybe a manufacturer like... Me: DODGE DART MID ENGINE HELLCAT Nolan: Hyundai Me: -_-

@ol_smokey9370

3 жыл бұрын

700 hp mid engine Dart would be right up Dodge's alley 😆

@dylantroutman4363

3 жыл бұрын

@@ol_smokey9370 More like 900 HP. Them numbers stay climbing

0:29 Lmao, honda actually make a

@tim3172

3 жыл бұрын

Which is A ) Discontinued and B ) not available in the US.

@yousseffarid6830

3 жыл бұрын

@@tim3172 Still being produced, but only in japan

@FMecha

3 жыл бұрын

@@yousseffarid6830 It's also being discontinued there - Honda announced a final run edition a while back.

@ocallaghan3865

3 жыл бұрын

And daihatsu has returned the copen to compete with it

@tibitekutan

3 жыл бұрын

Honda S660 owner here in Japan. I can vouch that this is fun-as-heck to corner, even if the engine's only 0.6l (though turbocharged with a properly loud BOV, mind you).

the polar moment of inertia that matters on cars is the vertical one, with a mid engine the car rotate better in corners

@jiroyamamoto2878

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Marco. I was appalled when I saw what they put up. At first I thought it was part of a joke. Pitch is relatively unimportant in cars. Yaw is really important. Roll is important, but generally height of center of gravity is the design issue there. Lots of attitude here, not so much clarity of understanding of chassis dynamics.

The fact that Nolan predicted the future with a 1000hp out of the box dodge 😂

Miss the days when Japanese companies were more passionate, I mean only those guys and maybe Dodge and Chevy are the only brands I can think of which have cheap fast cars made for enthusiasts

@tim3172

3 жыл бұрын

Because said cars were not PROFITABLE.

@eddiegarcia1560

3 жыл бұрын

Dodge is shit

@Majin_Fuu

3 жыл бұрын

@@eddiegarcia1560 yet I see Challengers, Chargers, and Durango's EVERYWHERE

@KamenZn6

3 жыл бұрын

Gt86, brz, mazda miata are the only cars i can think of that are build for enthusiasts and are relatively cheap for a new car.

@Wik3dNuTS4k

3 жыл бұрын

@@tim3172 fuck profit, i want cars with soul back

"Even a full spec'd sw20 mr2 turbo from 1989" SW20's didn't get made until 1990, 1989 was the AW11. And those didn't come turbo'd; they had a supercharger option.

@yournintendo64

3 жыл бұрын

1989 SW20 Mr2’s did exist. They’re incredibly rare and only released in Europe/ Asia.

@interscope8

3 жыл бұрын

Holding X to doubt here homie.

Soo comfy.....🤣😂🤣 you guys are amazing

Back in the 80’s my dad and I built a mid engine kit car (a Raffo) which took an Alfa Sud engine gear box and drive shafts and mounted it mid car.

The MR2 is one of my favorite JDM designs fs

@MichealleShoemaker

3 жыл бұрын

Which one?

@dfuji77

3 жыл бұрын

@@MichealleShoemaker 2nd gen turbo

@TrydeoVideo

3 жыл бұрын

@@dfuji77 it's beautiful in person.

@ndayishimiyeiren9043

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/fYKCy6eDgsmtn9bQ.htmlv

@mushlove6933

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely biased, such a nice car ;)

I like the fact that Nolan mentioned "retail" when he talked about the prices to point out the fact that the prices have been inflated by the market, and its no longer the price it was.

i recently bought a 1985 fiero 2m4, and honestly ive never had so much fun in a compact 4 cylinder car. It makes me sad cause i know im likely never going to see a modern take on what makes the fiero so fun.

What are you guys talking about? The Corvette is literally a Ferrari 458 you can grab for 60k. The Porsche Cayman also starts at 60k, and the Boxster at 71k. They're 50% more expensive than the inflated price of a cheap midship car from the 1990s, yes, but you get way more power and much better handling.

Welp, there goes my hype for Toyota on reviving the MR2 😞

@chunhao_jdm_436

3 жыл бұрын

It's likely to happen in my opinion Toyota even built the GR Yaris, which is very NOT economy cars and the car is handmade, they have the spirit.

@Vesperninja

3 жыл бұрын

Luckily you can still find mr2 zzw30s for reasonable prices

@Venomrs4

3 жыл бұрын

I think we may see an MR2, but it will probably be electric or hybrid

@DarthBaymax

3 жыл бұрын

There were rumors of the mr2 being brought back in colab with Subaru again

Honda prelude should have been rear wheel drive. There I said it

@PAExploration

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely, along with the Stealth/3000GT, and the Celica should have stayed rear wheel drive

@AntiActionFox

3 жыл бұрын

As a poor prelude owner, im glad theyre front wheel drive, because of the prelude was rwd they would be 50,000 dollars now. Theyre a wonderful car. But my 1985 prelude is a forgotten relic thankfully because the drifters and teenagers that wreck cars went to other platforms

@antonym24

3 жыл бұрын

@@AntiActionFox thank god they are cause i can get a civic or del sol for cheap, but if i try and get a 240SX or miata there 15k for 170k miles, auto transmission and missing bumpers.

@alexchavez2550

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t mind my prelude being fwd, I like how it feels

I have a very strong feeling that the I.C.E age isn’t over. All of this hype and bullshit surrounding EV’s might sound and look like it’s the “last hurrah.” But I have hope and faith. Please pray

@JoshRiolu

3 жыл бұрын

The actual EV revolution won't come to fruition until battery technology starts outcompeting ICE engines in the 'power density' department.

@onelyone6976

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, there’s been huge advancements in synthetic fuels, that’ll most likely grow most in diesel machines (tractors, trucks etc.). EV’s look like they’re here to stay, but I cannot see them taking over the entire car industry until huge battery advancements are made

@DEIFAN

3 жыл бұрын

Also batterys are harder to build

@The_Opinion_of_Matt

3 жыл бұрын

I had hoped we would be able to save the I.C.E. with renewable fuels. Now I worry we won't save ourselves. As for the switch we used whale oil lamps until kerosene lamps were better and we used those until gas lamps and those until lightbulbs (lightbulbs inherited their thread type from gas lamp fixtures and it was easy to pull the wire through the old gas lines). We used steam engines until gasoline and diesel engines were more practical.

@leon__feinstein

3 жыл бұрын

@@The_Opinion_of_Matt gasoline will stay forever. Just like gas cars will. I have hope and faith for the future. Just please pray

So pretty much what I've learned from this is that all mid engine cars are front wheel driver cars going backwards, uh..... MIND BLOWN.

Actually the 4C uses the same engine as the giuletta QV, fwd car.

I've loved the Fiero since I was a kid. I even have a little electric race cars and tracks. Remember those? But I have owned two 1988 Fiero GTs and they are great cars. With the right suspension setup they own the road

Jeremiah is the reason why we need shop back in schools. It ain't just turning wrenches!

Day 14 of asking for an Up to Speed on how Donut Media came to be

@nathanjoseph4284

3 жыл бұрын

@hv a happy day No

@Danse_Macabre_125

3 жыл бұрын

@Pakde Sragen Chanel *no*

I’ll be extremely pissed if the government bans the sale of ICE vehicles. 95% of the reason I’m an enthusiast is for the sounds a car/truck makes and to improve and modify it. Somehow downloading a random file that just turns my electric motors up 40% is less rewarding than getting an actual tune after I’ve installed new parts

@jeremytheimer7443

3 жыл бұрын

they wont ban ICE vehicles, governments have said they want to ban gasoline and diesel powered cars. not nessecarily internal combustion. you can still make a pure hydrogen powered car which has all the advantages of a gasoline powered car with next to no pollution and since few batteries are needed it's much cleaner than an electric car. however if people don't realise that hydrogen combustion isn't made to be the cleanest option possible but rather to preserve the fun in a clean, cheap, reliable, and sustainable way than you may see internal combustion engines be banned.

@crabby112

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeremytheimer7443 Also alcohol could be used as ICE. Worlds first ICE car was alcohol powered.

Mustang did introduce a turbo 4 in the 80's and trans am had the v6 turbo. Also for a moment Pontiac thought about moving their pony car to front wheel drive. But your point has been made

Owned an SW20 Toyota MR2 for 18 months a couple of years ago. Best car I ever had. Reliable, good looking, fun, easy to use, and the new kids thought it was some expensive exotic Lotus is making as close as we'll ever see: The Emira, has a supercharged mid-engine Toyota V6

Gotta love youtube's ad right in the middle of a sponsored segment.

@jishan6992

3 жыл бұрын

Just use Vanced KZread. It's an ad-free KZread. You can easily get it on an android phone

@trapsarentgay4195

3 жыл бұрын

@@jishan6992 or don’t be broke and get premium

@fvkz

3 жыл бұрын

@@trapsarentgay4195 premium sucks. No point for it why would you want to listen to videos with ur phone off unless it's a podcast. And for music there are better options lol.

@Josh_Quillan

3 жыл бұрын

@@trapsarentgay4195 KZread: (actively and deliberately makes usage experience worse) KZread: Hey, pay us money to get premium, for a better experience! When mobsters do things like this, it's usually called 'extortion'. Just because a huge corporation does it doesn't make it OK.

In Italy, originally, we have the 1750 tbi 4 banger (the engine of the alfa romeo 4c) in front wheel drive cars like the alfa romeo Giulietta and the 159. So that's is in fact a real og front wheel drive based engine. Swaps with that are quite common in abarth, both in the grande punto and punto evo and in the 595/695 because it's fits like the 1.4 tjet engine.

they used the wrong pictures for the 3rd gen mr2 engine and the lotus elise. They showed the 2zz engine for the mr2 spyder, when it should be a 1zz, and the garbage british 1.8 for the lotus, when it should be the 2zz :) The Celica GT and MR2 Spyder got the 1ZZ-FED, while the Lotus Elise, Matrix XRS, Celica GTS, and Pontiac Vibe GT got the 2ZZ

@JulioTRD

3 жыл бұрын

Glad someone else caught that as well lol

Just saw a group of mr2 at road America man they looked good !

I love my fiero!!! Midengine is life!

@anthony560

3 жыл бұрын

Just finished an LTG engine swap in mine, this is what the Fiero should have been!

The Fiero was a sales home run. It never lost money. It outsold all it's competition combined. The Fiero suffered from bad press and was still a success. They remade the Fiero, they just called it a Corvette. The space frame, mid engine and abandonment of the leaf springs all check the Fiero box.

@mrgmc6314

3 жыл бұрын

I been saying that forever... I wish I could afford a c8 just to badge swap it to a fiero and let it be the true car it is

@ExtraFungus

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrgmc6314 we think the same, but I'll wait a few years to piece together a c8 from the salvage auctions by then hopefully the ECU has been hacked, if I had the means I'd buy one now to rebadge as a Fiero.

Very classy Nolan thank you

I love that the Helix add has animated James in the animated Donut parking lot. Really!? You could have animated him anywhere but you animated in the Donut parking lot!? LOL!! I’m dying right now…

Bring back mid engine cars!

Day 393 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad

@Xanderboof

3 жыл бұрын

DOOOOO ITTTTTT

@grhead812

3 жыл бұрын

Day sumthing supporting him and his 24 hours of le mans

@tungabunga4107

3 жыл бұрын

here before this gets hearted

@hugo_then_i_go

3 жыл бұрын

SO EARLY. C'mon James. Listen to your fans

@nikoslats2551

3 жыл бұрын

Hi pagani gaming, is everything good?

No mention of the Fiat X-19, that used the same engine as the128, additionally the Volkswagen/Porsche 914?

9:10 - The EV transition is more than anything due to government regulations making MPG unrealistic. It's one of the reasons why cars are getting more and more expensive that require substantial car loans.

@Suavocado602

2 жыл бұрын

I’m sure that’s a factor but I’m confident that it has more to do with shifting markets, the success of Tesla, and the simplicity of electric cars. If you look at 9:26 you can see the drivetrain comprising of just the battery and motor. Once you have the manufacturing for those components figured out it’s a super simple vehicle to design.