Why we do a vinegar run

There is so much info out there about the vinegar run, but it's hard to find out WHY we do a vinegar run for a new moonshine still. There is a very specific reason, but you hardly ever hear it.
In this video, I go over the real reason and I show you just how important a steam clean is with video of the kind of gunk that comes out of a new still when you do a vinegar run.
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  • @timothyjones9430
    @timothyjones94302 жыл бұрын

    This is the kind of video that is really helpful to a lot of people. Well done!

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words Timothy. We're glad you enjoyed it.

  • @cliffp73

    @cliffp73

    2 жыл бұрын

    I second this comment!

  • @danielanthony1054

    @danielanthony1054

    Жыл бұрын

    oh yeah

  • @thealembicdiary1814
    @thealembicdiary18142 жыл бұрын

    Great visual inside the bucket! That says it all. I love your set up

  • @jadeholland5471
    @jadeholland54712 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! I just bought my first still and this helps so much!

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jade, I'm so excited to hear that. You're going to have so much fun.

  • @davidcoleman6211
    @davidcoleman62112 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. Straight forward and to the point. With the proof plain to see at the bottom of the bucket.

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I'm glad you appreciate it.👍

  • @dmorgan5010
    @dmorgan50109 ай бұрын

    All of the people making liquor and videos you just covered the most important thing about making liquor is the cleaning process that no one covers

  • @briand7285
    @briand7285 Жыл бұрын

    Great video for me as I got both pot and reflux to clean. Plus helps clean my 10 year old boiler. Take care Bri 🇬🇧👍

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome, thank you for the comment.

  • @adamsoutdoors
    @adamsoutdoors Жыл бұрын

    Working in on my first build. Good video for beginners/ first run. Thanks!

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome. Thank you for the comment.

  • @terrylyn
    @terrylyn2 жыл бұрын

    Just bought my first still, thank you for this advice.

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    You bet. I'm glad you found it useful.

  • @BugBooo-qr2yb
    @BugBooo-qr2yb Жыл бұрын

    Thank you brother!!!!!!much love ,,,,,, knowledge be given 😶💯

  • @stillworksandbrewing
    @stillworksandbrewing2 жыл бұрын

    Great vid and you are 100% correct Cheers!!

  • @tomkat_Kansas
    @tomkat_Kansas2 жыл бұрын

    Good advice on the heating element!

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    Learned that lesson from you Tom

  • @PaulJones-bo8gt
    @PaulJones-bo8gt9 ай бұрын

    Love it exactly what I needed

  • @tomchristensen2914
    @tomchristensen2914 Жыл бұрын

    I would love to see a video on different setups. Like why and when you would use either a thumper, column, just a condenser etc. I get confused trying to figure if it is types of liquor you are running or what.

  • @billywaynehuggins8567
    @billywaynehuggins8567 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the info for a beginner I just starting and it really helps a lot thank you sir

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    Жыл бұрын

    You bet, brother.

  • @billywaynehuggins8567

    @billywaynehuggins8567

    Жыл бұрын

    I am going to learn how on this one thanks to your info and I'll get a full copper still as soon as you teach me all of it hahaha but thank you very much

  • @petersieben8560
    @petersieben85602 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video contents and make are just great ! Thank you !

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Peter.

  • @LWYOffGridHomestead
    @LWYOffGridHomestead2 жыл бұрын

    Good to know...thanks

  • @jamesglenn7373
    @jamesglenn73732 жыл бұрын

    Really good info. Thanks

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful, James!

  • @jakeen7733
    @jakeen77332 жыл бұрын

    I do a vinegar run, followed by a sacrificial alcohol run (sugar wash) followed by a straight distilled water run. The alcohol run is outside and only when breezy to be safe. Good video. Keep'em coming.

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I'll keep on keep'n on.

  • @dmorgan5010

    @dmorgan5010

    8 ай бұрын

    Ua I don't know if that vinegar run is the best way for vinegar is used to dissolve metal..maybe 1 gallon to ten gallon cooker anything stronger could possibly break down the copper if you are running a 50 gallon use 1 5 gallon bucket of working beer in the cooker and add everything else inside and let the beer work a few days before the run is ready this is a spray and washout method so it's ready when you are but soon as you get it cleaned dry it out to get started with assembly

  • @jimmelton7299
    @jimmelton7299 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your reply

  • @vaper6262
    @vaper6262 Жыл бұрын

    Great info 👍

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @waynealexis7680
    @waynealexis768010 ай бұрын

    Nice I'm in the middle finishing my diy still and thumper

  • @dwilmot
    @dwilmot2 жыл бұрын

    We do a vinegar run on all new coffee ☕ maker And once a month for mineral buildup.

  • @jamesgrey8093
    @jamesgrey80933 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the support 🙏

  • @AlvinLamkey
    @AlvinLamkey2 жыл бұрын

    Good explanation

  • @VanillaAttila
    @VanillaAttila Жыл бұрын

    Should put the condenser on later on so that gets cleaned out too me thinks.

  • @tinsoldier5621
    @tinsoldier56212 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful information. How do you like the electric still as opposed to the propane or open fire stills

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    My preference is propane, but it has more to do with the fact that I live off grid and produce my own electricity so watts are very valuable.

  • @tinsoldier5621

    @tinsoldier5621

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@StillnTheClear Nice. I live in Los Angeles now but raised on a farm in Kansas. I'm set up to go off grid at any time. Thanks for responding.

  • @bobbydavis3723
    @bobbydavis3723 Жыл бұрын

    They are asking about the condenser. To be cleaned. That's what they say is missing. ..love the show. How can I buy the grains n all you offer?

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. www.stillntheclear.com

  • @RonGay58
    @RonGay58 Жыл бұрын

    On your half, half, half rule, do you start timing the half hour from the start or when the steam is flowing? My guess would be the latter.

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    Жыл бұрын

    I time it from the time the steam starts flowing.

  • @markell38115
    @markell381152 жыл бұрын

    Question. Wouldn’t you want to clean the condenser pipe/line as well?

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    This does clean the condenser. If you're talking about the water lines that cool the condenser then the answer is no, the vapor never comes into contact with the inside of the water lines..

  • @dutchk9833
    @dutchk98332 жыл бұрын

    If you clean a new pot still with the 551 technique, are vinegar and sacrificial runs needed?

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    I still would because it's the steaming action that can really get the job done.

  • @mikemenzies3046
    @mikemenzies3046 Жыл бұрын

    I dug out my still after a few years of not using it. 3gal mash pot. Did a vinegar run today, Could I get away without doing a sacrificial run? Or would the vinegar taste linger to much in the first real run?

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    Жыл бұрын

    You should be fine without a sac run, but you may get some blue tint at the beginning of the run if you're running a copper still.

  • @Offishal_Lifestyle
    @Offishal_Lifestyle Жыл бұрын

    I have everything for an electric setup the only thing holding me back is needing a 30a 240v GFCI protected circuit (according to the manufacturer) how did you accomplish this?

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    Жыл бұрын

    I used a 120v element. I had no need for a 240v breaker.

  • @Offishal_Lifestyle

    @Offishal_Lifestyle

    Жыл бұрын

    @@StillnTheClear right on I think I overcommitted lol!!! Jumped in with both feet like a wise man once said on you tube 😂. I’ll get it done!!!

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Offishal_Lifestyle what size is your still? It may be simpler to change elements.

  • @earlharrell8678
    @earlharrell86782 жыл бұрын

    I'm building a beer keg still it is stainless steel but the reflux is copper . Do I need to do a vinegar run?

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, do a vinegar run on both stainless and copper. Thanks for the comment/question.

  • @tomchristensen2914
    @tomchristensen2914 Жыл бұрын

    I asked the people who built my still and they said it's pretty clean and I don't need to clean it.. I'm going to follow your steps because apparently not everyone thinks it needs cleaned. But I have sweat copper before and I know it gets dirty

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    Жыл бұрын

    Plus, how is cleaning it going to hurt anything, even if it's already 'pretty clean'?

  • @tomchristensen2914

    @tomchristensen2914

    Жыл бұрын

    @@StillnTheClear well I paid a lot of money for this so I will be doing it right.

  • @pilsplease7561

    @pilsplease7561

    Жыл бұрын

    @@StillnTheClear I tried a vinegar run but was a waste of time I figure the sac run will get everything anyways, considering I washed the heck out of the still and soaked it overnight in a brewery wash solution anyways that would have dissolved any oils and crud for the most part.

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pilsplease7561 you should be fine.

  • @pilsplease7561

    @pilsplease7561

    Жыл бұрын

    @@StillnTheClear Still paranoid as Im about to do a nice Rye that I would be pissed off if it got contaminated. For a small 5 gallon unit what kind of electric element would you recommend as I am trying to stick with electric for safety and ease of use.

  • @freddieevansjr9623
    @freddieevansjr96232 жыл бұрын

    Would I need to do a vinegar run in a stainless steel still I got off of Amazon?

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Always do a vinager run and sacrificial run on a new still.

  • @gregorymceaddy8884
    @gregorymceaddy88842 жыл бұрын

    It kills the enzymes from the malt

  • @jimmelton7299
    @jimmelton7299 Жыл бұрын

    I've just got a 30 gal pot still bourbon ball , 10 gal thumper, an 5gal worm. What % of vinegar run to clean. I've got 3 gals of 45% acid vinegar. What % vinegar wash I need. The still is one from Copper Still Co. Added a 6in agitation port, an a heating element port. But useing a 200,000 btu gas burner till I get wired outlet for 220v.

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    Жыл бұрын

    That sounds like a beautiful still. Adam is an amazing craftsman. Do a 1 to 1 ratio of water to vinegar.

  • @jimmelton7299

    @jimmelton7299

    Жыл бұрын

    When I get an start the vinegar run, I send you some pictures of it.

  • @brianmckibben2300
    @brianmckibben23002 жыл бұрын

    Don't clean it out and get a pretty blue color out the other end after a while. I clean mine with water. hydrogen peroxide and citric acid called 5-5-1. It takes the Sulphur off the copper distilling leaves.

  • @kystfort
    @kystfort2 жыл бұрын

    what strenght in % would the vinager have to be? i have a 35% vinegar, or would i need a stronger one?

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    You actually have a stronger one. A 1:1 mix of household vinegar (5% acidity) and water would be equal to a 7:1 mix of 35% vinegar and water.

  • @KC-pj9ze
    @KC-pj9ze23 күн бұрын

    I was wondering can you use your tails from the sacrificial run in your thumper for the next run or throw them?

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    23 күн бұрын

    You can, as long as your tails are 80 proof or less.

  • @KC-pj9ze

    @KC-pj9ze

    20 күн бұрын

    @@StillnTheClear thank you!

  • @matthewjmedeiros
    @matthewjmedeiros2 жыл бұрын

    Do you need to rinse everything after the run is over?

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not if you're going to follow up with a sacrificial run.

  • @user-vn6pg3dp5q
    @user-vn6pg3dp5q6 ай бұрын

    What type of vinegar been looking for answer white vinegar or apple cider vinegar or does it matter

  • @lil44haulem52

    @lil44haulem52

    Ай бұрын

    I'd assume white would be cleaner with less additives. But that's just an assumption I'm not a likker scientist

  • @frlouiegoad4087
    @frlouiegoad4087 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you: My first run was 90 proof. Just luck.

  • @frlouiegoad4087

    @frlouiegoad4087

    Жыл бұрын

    I am no expert, I say it was just luck, luck often has nothing to do with skill. It was very good .

  • @elaineshoemaker8229
    @elaineshoemaker8229 Жыл бұрын

    Can you use oatmeal and cornmeal for some of your mix ?

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    Жыл бұрын

    Sure you can.

  • @user-ef4ld7tg1b
    @user-ef4ld7tg1b7 ай бұрын

    I have a 9.6 gallon vevor stainless steel still coming in. After I Do the vinegar run, do I need to do a sacrifice run if so how much wash do I put in

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    7 ай бұрын

    I always recommend a vinegar run and a sac run on a new still regardless of the type of still. Ideally you would treat the sac run as a regular run. For a 9.6 gallon still this would be 7.5 to gallon run.

  • @user-ef4ld7tg1b

    @user-ef4ld7tg1b

    7 ай бұрын

    @@StillnTheClear thank you, and I did not know to put 7.5 for a regular run I really appreciate your help

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    7 ай бұрын

    @@user-ef4ld7tg1b I did make a typo in that reply. It is 7.5 to 8 gallon.

  • @user-ef4ld7tg1b

    @user-ef4ld7tg1b

    7 ай бұрын

    @@StillnTheClear no problem thanks before I got your other message I had no clue how much to put, I was just gonna go an inch from the top. So your info helped me a lot

  • @unclebuds3752
    @unclebuds37522 жыл бұрын

    How often should you do a vinegar run?

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    I do a vinegar run on every new still and I do a vinegar run at the beginning of every season because my still might sit unused for 6 or 7 months collecting dust and patina.

  • @brettsurrett4596
    @brettsurrett45962 жыл бұрын

    Don't you need to clean the condenser too?

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    This process does clean the condenser.

  • @thenobelnatty
    @thenobelnatty Жыл бұрын

    I made the mistake of not cleaning and I got that crud in my moonshine...is it still safe to drink? Like will it kill me? I don't mind if it taste bad or whatever

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    Жыл бұрын

    There's no telling what is in that run. That's why we call the first run a sacrificial run, because it's just a sacrifice. I would not drink it.

  • @joshuajackson9118
    @joshuajackson91185 ай бұрын

    So, I'm going to do a vinegar run. Do i also need to do a sacrificial run?

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes, that is my recommendation.

  • @joshuajackson9118

    @joshuajackson9118

    5 ай бұрын

    @@StillnTheClear thank you!

  • @freddieevansjr9623
    @freddieevansjr96232 жыл бұрын

    What about the thumper?

  • @orion7741

    @orion7741

    Жыл бұрын

    this type of still does not use a thumper.

  • @skepticfucker280
    @skepticfucker2802 жыл бұрын

    How many times till the vinigar taste goes away? I was given a small still and I'm trying to use for water distillation before anything else. Did vinigar wash and a rinse 3 times with water to get rid of all the build up but I've passed 2 half gallon runs of distilled water (pouring in 1 gall and distilling half) and the water coming out still has a vinigar smell, not so much taste but I don't want my "water" or "hypothetical wash" to have a vinigar smell or taste. Lol I'm thinking cheap pint of vodka test? Lol if the vodka rinse tastes like vinigar then probably the "water" will be too? I'm going to try another gallon of store bought water I think, cheaper then the cheap pint of vodka. Lol

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    You should do a sacrificial run. Make an alcohol run to clear the smell.

  • @skepticfucker280

    @skepticfucker280

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@StillnTheClear ok, will do tomorrow. Thank you for the input, the "water distiller" has about a 1.5gal pot, think a pint of cheap vodka and an extra 750ml of distilled water would be good or should I juts pour the 80proof sacrifice in the pot and turn it off after distilling 40% of a pint? It's got "lab quality" controls ect, it's oil jacketed pot and says it has a 1.5° maximum temperature variation. For water I just been turning it up to 212c but the online instructions say run at 175f-185f for liquor, should I just run it as if it's water? Sry about all the questions, I'm just trying to get as much information from people that know more then I ever will as maybe to avoid some stupid mistakes before I make them (cause I will make them).

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@skepticfucker280 just make a run with 80 proof and run it down as far as you like.

  • @poboy942
    @poboy9422 жыл бұрын

    Every single time you make an ounce of whiskey, distilled water or whatever you might be doing ,it is a direct reflection on the operator.. If you aren't the best at following directions or arent as worried about safety as maybe you should be then this may not be the hobby for you. Sterilization and absolute cleanliness, at all times are the most, important parts of this hobby. You never want to make a batch of whatever it is you like to make and someone get sick or see debris in your finished product. It is 100% serious 100% of the time. People that mess with these distilleries and screw around doing other things worry me to death because you must be attentive to the task at hand...Never loan your distilling equipment to someone else either... that could end in disaster if they dont know what they are doing..

  • @orion7741

    @orion7741

    Жыл бұрын

    dude, you are thinking of beer and wine. yeah, those need sterilization in everything. but not for spirits. seriously, it really does not matter at all because the distilled spirit sterilizes everything it touches. bro, you think you know alot, but your comment just shows how ignorant you are and that you truly dont know anything about distilling. its people like you that have no business around distilling....

  • @Rue2love
    @Rue2loveАй бұрын

    Hard and fast huh ? 😂❤

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    Ай бұрын

    😂😂

  • @benadams1661
    @benadams1661 Жыл бұрын

    That's not the way to do it bud you should have everything attached, you want it as if you were actually going to run a regular wash

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm curious, which part do you think is missing?

  • @garywoody1843
    @garywoody184310 сағат бұрын

    Do you have any recommendation on how to add a heating element to a pot?

  • @StillnTheClear

    @StillnTheClear

    10 сағат бұрын

    @@garywoody1843 are you talking about a stainless or copper pot?