Why There is a Giant Floating Prison In New York City
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Planes. They are boats if the sea was dry.
@propergander8509
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t tell Wendover Production
@ElValuador
2 жыл бұрын
Boats wouldn’t float if the sea was dry.
@endig4501
2 жыл бұрын
@@ElValuador Taking the shotgun approach to low-effort trolling, huh? Try harder.
@ElValuador
2 жыл бұрын
@@endig4501 Space shuttles. They are planes but in space.
@baksatibi
2 жыл бұрын
Seaplanes. They are like upside-down submarines if the sea was dry.
Arguably Australia was just one big prison boat
@Pablo_the_hedgehog
2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@SimokVI
2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, a vote has yet to be passed to close it down...
@notfiction9241
2 жыл бұрын
It would be, but everyone knows that Australia doesn’t exist.
@ElValuador
2 жыл бұрын
@@Stevie-J A tyrannical island full of scared sheep.
@frigginjerk
2 жыл бұрын
It's only arguable because Australia isn't actually real.
The line graph “Average Daily Jail Population in NYC” at time stamp (3:31/5:51) has an error in the x axis. It starts with the year “1888” and not “1988” as it should. You’re welcome :)
@cowboyhank456
2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was just a joke
@Bremend
2 жыл бұрын
Logarithmic scale for the first unit, clearly...
@matteovillella1482
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah: someone else realized too! There should also be a break in the graph I think.
@joshuareidsound8985
2 жыл бұрын
are you sure it should? Is the graph still correct with it reading 1888? Do you know?
@CB____
2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuareidsound8985 In the video he literally says “30 years ago back in the late 80s..” it was meant to read 1988
0:11 the pictures shows the “diamond princess“ notable for having a gastroenteritis outbreak in 2016 and a Covid-19 outbreak in January 2020. The latter of whom resulted in the ship and all passengers being quarantined for nearly a month.
@adolfilyichmarx9589
2 жыл бұрын
Princess is an old people cruise line.
@groundedgaming
2 жыл бұрын
Very funny, HAI...
@maknyc1539
2 жыл бұрын
lol
@marclapin
2 жыл бұрын
never heard of the 2016 one
"There's nothing more permanent than a temporary solution" - from ~30 years working in system admin & tech support. Temporary solutions tend to be implemented quickly, then renewed indefinitely because it's much less work to just keep the patch-up job running. This explains a great deal about the state of computer software, but I'm sure we can all come up with real-world examples. Waaay too many real-world examples.
@User31129
2 жыл бұрын
Highway paving
@ronnycook3569
2 жыл бұрын
@@User31129 Yeah, the patching of potholes was the first real-world example that I thought of as well (aside from the prison barge.) But you can find this EVERYWHERE.
@EdgyShooter
2 жыл бұрын
This is why my departments roof flooded. About 30 years ago they were told it could be fixed permanently for x amount or temporary repaired each year for a smaller amount, can you guess which they went for?
@ckl9390
2 жыл бұрын
I've heard a reportedly Russian saying that is essentially the same thing.
@iconofthicc6086
2 жыл бұрын
KZread dislikes…
In the USN if your ship was in the shipyard we had a berthing barge nearby. It was home to all the services that the ship could no longer support. Things like admin, medical, galley and where the Duty section slept. It was not fun.
@SPOcepSS
2 жыл бұрын
On subs even that didn’t matter, still slept onboard for duty
@ElValuador
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service.
@MegaGun2000
2 жыл бұрын
Statements like these reaffirm my beliefs that I will never be military potential haha
@sophia-helenemeesdetricht1957
2 жыл бұрын
The berthing barge was generally threadbare, temperatures fluctuated frequently and violently, reefer units rarely worked, and the heads (the bathrooms) were insufficient in basically every respect. And this is coming from someone whose first ship was a warship so old and busted, they couldn't sell it off, so they used it as target practice.
@patrickmattin9609
2 жыл бұрын
@@Stevie-J Yeah that's about right, but without the gym, and a little nicer. On the bright side, only had to sleep there once or twice a week.
"Why is this temporary measure still open ?" Because the government has a history of making temporary measures that are actually permanent. Sales tax amirite ?
@alexkaplan6581
2 жыл бұрын
Income tax, the patriot act, gun control, violations of habeas corpus, etc.
@User31129
2 жыл бұрын
I would totally have my income tax raised to have the sales tax canceled. Sales tax is charged equally to both the poor and the rich. And the poor spend almost all their income, while the rich dont.
@OnlyFlans42
2 жыл бұрын
@@alexkaplan6581 covid regulations...
@alexkaplan6581
2 жыл бұрын
@@User31129 State versus fed. Apples to oranges, unless you live in a regressive shithole like California that double dips.
The Average Daily Jail Population graph has a typo; It says 1888 rather than 1988.
@nelsoncorreia7293
2 жыл бұрын
Good eye, noticed that too
Major omission: Left out the real reason why not closed and will never be until an additional prison is built. The correction workers union wont let it close and city workers unions control who gets elected to all elected offices in the city.
@Sammie1053
2 жыл бұрын
ugh, fuckin' law enforcement unions ruining NYC once again
@FUnzzies1
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sammie1053 where did the mean police man arrest you?
@toahero5925
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sammie1053 Democrats have spent years telling workers that they need to unionize and band together to ensure better treatment. Can you really blame NY police for doing what their city and state governments recommended?
@Steelerebecca92
2 жыл бұрын
@@toahero5925 do you really think that cop and correctional worker unions are remotely a new thing?
@toahero5925
2 жыл бұрын
@@Steelerebecca92 Of course not, but it kinda undermines progressive praise for unionization and workers' rights when they turn around and badmouth police unions for protecting their members.
FYI: Koch, in this instance, rhymes with Scotch.
@fyang1429
2 жыл бұрын
Surely a good thing otherwise it would pronounce the same as the last name of the father of modern bacteriology
@dannydaw59
2 жыл бұрын
So it's not pronounced as "Coke" ?
@mrmoose6619
2 жыл бұрын
@@dannydaw59 Not for the former People's Court Judge and former NYC Mayor
@dominiccaragiulo6379
2 жыл бұрын
I felt really dumb for a second.
@danielsavitz5774
2 жыл бұрын
@@dannydaw59 It is for the Koch Brothers, but not for former mayor Ed Koch
I didn't know if this meant to be a joke but the line graph from 3:29 to 4:04 starts at 1888 and not 1988.
@andrewshorts1198
2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too
@FrozenBusChannel
2 жыл бұрын
Another item for yearly mistakes video
Ah yes, a temporary measure. Just like car tax was here, back in 1958. Nothing is as permanent as a temporary measure.
@NoJusticeNoPeace
2 жыл бұрын
Here in Canada we're still paying the "temporary" surcharge on phone service for switching to touch tone from pulse dial.
@4kChannel
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing is more permanent than a temporary government program Milton Friedman
@ssjjshawn
2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes like other temporary things in the USA like: Sales Tax The FBI The CIA The Patriot Act Giant Monopolies The Military Industrial Complex
I didn’t know there was a prison boat in New York until I saw this video. Thank you for sharing. I learned something new today.
@benjaminsletten9434
2 жыл бұрын
@@Stevie-J and bricks
@atonysomething
2 жыл бұрын
@@Stevie-J that's called a sponsorship
wendover is in tears. you started this video with pretty much the exact opposite of a plane
Arguably the earth is just one big prison spaceship
@YoussefAhmed-jd5zu
2 жыл бұрын
Probably less then 100 people escaped this prison out of a population of 7 billion ,it seems pretty effective.
@3:51 the chart says 1888, I think it's supposed to be 1988.
If I've learned anything about temporary measures, it's that they're almost invariably permanent, doesn't matter if it's New York or anywhere else with humans. The reason is simple: The temporary measure makes the problem a thing to solve later, so other things then take priority (ie finding), then later comes, the cheapest solution is then to extend the temporary measure.
Half as interesting always makes my day slightly more interesting, thanks Sam
" Boats, they're like planes for if the sky was wet." I also enjoy mushrooms.
As a former Staten islander, I can confirm this is very true but the ferry bathrooms are truly the worse thing in the world
4:04, graphs labelled wrongly to 1888 instead of 1988 :P
3:30 1888 skips to 1990, big gap in a little graph
You can actually see that boat, Riker's Island and even North and South Brother Islands from the NYC Ferry that runs to and from the Bronx Soundview Ferry port on Classon Point. There is also a gated community there.
@EdgyShooter
2 жыл бұрын
I mean, I would hope a prison had gates 😉
@metallicarchaea1820
2 жыл бұрын
@@EdgyShooter Haha, good one!
"HAI's Crime Spree" a.k.a Sam is trying to get on one of those prison planes
Long time viewer , first time caller ... I’m from NYC (SI actually) and I totally approve of this episode on every level. Wendover /HAI keep it gully
This is the best Nebula bait I've ever seen.
There used to be a prison ship in Belfast Harbour in the 1970's. It was called HMP Maidstone. One night a few inmates dived into the harbour and escaped. It didn't last too much longer after that.
What a lot of people seem to have forgotten is that Giulliani was on his way to prison. He had been using a fleet of buses to shuttle homeless people from shelter to shelter across New York to make them less visible by spreading them out, which also trapped them in homelessness by preventing them from getting jobs, contacting landlords, or connecting with social services. A judge ruled this was a violation of civil rights and ordered Giulliani to stop -- which he completely ignored. A judge had just ruled Giulliani in contempt of court when 9/11 happened and everything was quietly swept under the rug, because the civil rights of a bunch of smelly poor people were much less important than waving a patriotic flag.
@ElValuador
2 жыл бұрын
Cry more
@notfiction9241
2 жыл бұрын
I see nothing wrong with any of this. Yay flag waving.
@fica1137
2 жыл бұрын
@@ElValuador Cope
@ElValuador
2 жыл бұрын
@@fica1137 🥴
@NoJusticeNoPeace
2 жыл бұрын
@@ElValuador Tribalism is dumb. All it does is show you're incapable of critical thought, and in the absence of the ability to think, you just take Great White Father's views as holy doctrine. It results in ridiculous self-harm from arguments about things like basic medical hygiene during a worldwide pandemic, ecological devastation from climate change, or -- as in this case -- the elimination of civil rights meant to protect _everyone_ from abuse.
VCBC closed this month. I volunteered there the last year: it was crowded, open rooms with ~60 beds, and had free windows. In incarcerated folks were largely shipped off to Rikers.
You can't wiki Ed Koch and learn that his name is pronounced KOTCH and not COKE?
Just remember Ed Koch rhymes with crotch. Do that and I will forgive you about the graph starting in 1888.
His name is pronounced Ko-TCH not Ko-KE like the Koch brothers.
Nobody “lives” in the East River, so I guess, technically, that’s correct; but plenty of people who ran afoul of the many decades of NYC mob bosses do, indeed, _rest_ there though..
This sounds like the typical plot to a bad anime
YOOOOOO I WILL ABSOLUTELY Wtch that show. So happy you’ve seen the growth and success you have!!
the prison graph starting at 3:30 starts with "1888" instead of "1988" by the by
Bain Correctional Center has been in the same place for so long that Google Maps literally has a 3D model of it
4:01 You labelled 1988 as 1888
@leobarnes4593
2 жыл бұрын
i will be disliking the video because of this
3:31.. I though when Sam said late 80s it was 1980s, but looks like it was late 1880s.. Damn! For over a century Rikers has been super occupied.
Is that an actual show because I'm actually interested
wait... is the crime spree show actually gonna be a thing? was he serious?
@naturallyflorida9052
2 жыл бұрын
That's what i wanna know
Wait ryker's island is a real thing? It seemed like such a stupid idea I was sure it was just made up for spiderman, along with the raft.
@this51man
2 жыл бұрын
It's real. Built on landfill with only a bridge to go in or out. Also next to another landfill called LGA airport lol
Wish you all the best in that spree, Sam💚 I wish I could watch it but , you know, here in Syria it's somewhat hard to get 15$/year and a reliable internet connection.
1:12 Carnival has some competition there 😂
3:50 : seems to start at 1880 ;)
3:33 I like how the graph starts at 1888
Good job on 2 million subs!!!
Congratulations on 2 mil.
I love how the Guinness text is all 10000% gibberish @ 0:35 seconds lol
5:18 all I have to say is NO. I want that show.
"Having mayors that suck" *Shows brand new mayor of NYC*... Well, someone isn't happy with the election results. At least he rides the subway instead of being driven across midtown?
@4kChannel
2 жыл бұрын
The man just got elected
@georgewuzheer
2 жыл бұрын
someone doesn't like cops lmao
@meh12345HEY
2 жыл бұрын
@@georgewuzheer well, that person certainly isn't Mayor Adams...
Holy crap is that how you pronounce Ed koch's name? I've been pronouncing it kotch like crotch but not.
"which was built on the foundation of a landfill"- caught me by surprise, funny
Hate to be "that guy", but the former NY mayor's name (Koch) is pronounced like "botch", or "scotch"... definitely not like "Coke" 🙂
Small mistake on your graph at 4:00, the leftmost year is 1888, when i assume its supposed to be 1988, given you said 30 years ago
Pretty sure the prison on the boat could easily fit on the parking lot
That stock video prisoner's shoes have some nice hangin' laces there...
Congrats HAI on 2mil!
Suspending the gold standard was supposed to be temporary as well.
Somehow, there are more planes than getaway cars in the title sequence to Sam's show about committing crimes.
Good idea. Could probably move it out to sea and use resupply ships.
Bibby Resolution and Bibby Venture we're initially used to house British soldiers in the Falklands after the Falklands War in 1982
00:08 The Diamond Princess joke at the beginning 💀💀💀
It's Ed Koch, Ko-"ch". He was the Judge on people's court from 97-99 theres videos on KZread you can reference for pronunciation.... Did I do it? Do I make the Mistakes video at the end of the year? Also, The new series looks awesome!
@User31129
2 жыл бұрын
If someone mispronounces their own name, are they wrong?
Loved the Lorem Ipsum in the 'news article'!
@ryanclark6402
2 жыл бұрын
Was just going to post this. Everyone’s tripping about the graph, but there’s not enough love for the typography. :)
1:57 that's immediately where my brain went when I clicked this video - I was like and the irony
The Stefan SNL reference already made this video 10/10
3:44 another one for the HAI error record books
Btw, Ed Koch’s name is pronounced the way it sounds not Coke, like the rich brothers. Also, Hunts Point is still not gentrified
I work with on the NYC Ferry and the line runs right next to it haha
I think the location of the floating prison in the thumbnail is slightly wrong. It was on the other side of Bronx river, literally next to the big island.
Hey, is this that fever dream i had yesterday?
A few years back the UK Govt. toyed with the idea of buying a floating prison from somewher or other. There was a massive backlash and they dropped it like a hot brick. i wonder if this was the tub?
Love the Stefan reference
Id love to see that show but i dont have a creditcard and neither do my parents:(
I remember watching them build this when crossing the Huey P Long bridge
Will always thumbs up any video that throws shade at Staten Island.
Happy 2mil!
*Hydrofoils* are like planes, for if the sky was wet. Boats are like airships, for if the sky was wet. The later ones don't need to move to stay in thier intended environments. Although the most accurate aqueous equivalent to airships would be submarines or U-Boote as us germans like to call them.
New Jerseyan chiming in here: Mayor Koch rhymes with scotch, not stoke.
Hunts point is still basically the scariest place in all of NYC
This is a nightmare. I had no idea this even existed.
A video about how New York has ignored the history of prison ships... by a channel which went and made a real world version of Das Millonenspiel or The Most Dangerous Game :D
Ah the year just 2 before 1990, 1888.
Stephan reference was awesome lol
What a great title sequence!
What was that mayors name? Could be worse, could be like that episode of News Radio where Matthew mispronnced Buttafuoco's name... LOL
"Really sea sick and also regular sick- and also starved."
"This prison sucks." IT'S PRISON, NOT DISNEYLAND.
0:10 That's a throwback.
That title sequence need more plane shots.
My man just shot on everybody in the first 2 minutes 😂😂
You've done it again!
Oh this is literally a prison boat? For a moment I thought it was just gonna talk about Rikers Island
"Half as interesting crime spree" Ah he's finally cracked!
I do hate the prison system, but I do love that background track...
that's a weird way to describe LaGuardia
We’ll be seeing that graph in the annual mistakes video 😎
POV: You just watched "Tick, Tick... Boom" and looked up the prison boat reference.
"Staten Island which is basically a prison already!" Lol.