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  • @KROGANLovesKittensAndPuppies
    @KROGANLovesKittensAndPuppies8 ай бұрын

    "I am Iron Born." Reek answered, lying. The boy he'd been before had been Iron Born, true enough, but Reek had come into this world in the dungeons of the Dreadfort.

  • @6starFenrir

    @6starFenrir

    8 ай бұрын

    Such a cool name, the dreadfort! Lives up too its name as well

  • @hsgame4088

    @hsgame4088

    8 ай бұрын

    Theon lives again

  • @barkbentley4657

    @barkbentley4657

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@6starFenrir I agree. What a scary sounding place!

  • @nunyabiznes33

    @nunyabiznes33

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@barkbentley4657it looks ridiculous in the books though apparently, being all pink and red.

  • @leemarshall348

    @leemarshall348

    8 ай бұрын

    @@nunyabiznes33eh compared to places like highgarden and the gates of the moon which are comically large/tall its not too unrealistic.

  • @Jaime.Lannister
    @Jaime.Lannister8 ай бұрын

    Just when I thought Joffrey was a monster...

  • @bsneed7150

    @bsneed7150

    8 ай бұрын

    Ramsey made Joffery look like a Boy's Scout

  • @Tyler_W

    @Tyler_W

    8 ай бұрын

    He was, but Joffrey could be placated, flattered, and distracted. Ramsey was single-minded, methodical, and devious, like his father, but somehow even more vicious.

  • @feonor26

    @feonor26

    8 ай бұрын

    Joffrey was just a spoiled brat who never heard the word "no". Ramsey on the other hand was a pure sadist and he relished in inflicting pain.

  • @Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken

    @Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken

    8 ай бұрын

    @@feonor26 But so did Joffrey.. Joffrey certainly wasn't as Deranged as Ramsey, and might have had a chance if his mother wasn't Cersei, but alas that is not what transpired.

  • @DominicNweze

    @DominicNweze

    8 ай бұрын

    For real

  • @robh7800
    @robh78008 ай бұрын

    The first “Reek” chapter was such an “oh god” moment for me in thrones. For those who don’t know Martin titles each chapter after the character whose POV you are reading from. So the first time “Reek” came up you were meant to assume it was a brand new character, until you get into it. And slowly as he describes the hell he’s been through you realize it’s Theon .. was a terrifying moment in the books and some awesome writing.

  • @dolorusedd2586

    @dolorusedd2586

    6 ай бұрын

    After reading the Cersei chapters I felt like I needed a bath... but after reading the Reek chapters I felt like I needed therapy

  • @bricknolty5478

    @bricknolty5478

    6 ай бұрын

    Same! You've heard about the torture, and haven't had any Theon chapters in awhile, and then you turn the page... and your stomach just drops. I think about that moment all the time.

  • @joel5135

    @joel5135

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@dolorusedd2586 reeks chapters actually made me question grrms mental health 💀

  • @Random-fz2rg

    @Random-fz2rg

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@joel5135Im sure George is cool and all but honestly, this man's imagination goes beyond limits like wtf 😭

  • @luechmillionz

    @luechmillionz

    26 күн бұрын

    @@Random-fz2rghe’s the master of shock value …a very important element in writing

  • @Keptaro
    @Keptaro8 ай бұрын

    What he has turned into is an insult to the Ironborn's belief that "what is dead may never die but rises again, harder and stronger". Theon died in Winterfell. And he will never rise again, physically and mentally

  • @easy0828

    @easy0828

    8 ай бұрын

    maybe his eggplant will not rise again, but the rest is not impossible

  • @brandocalrissian3294

    @brandocalrissian3294

    8 ай бұрын

    Where we're left at in the story, he's doing alot better mentally. Physically he'll never be what he was, but he'll be better than reek.

  • @notagoodman

    @notagoodman

    7 ай бұрын

    He hasn't been drowned. Could turn things around.

  • @martintodd9944

    @martintodd9944

    6 ай бұрын

    As theons dad told him when he went back and before he captured winterfell, theon was already a disgrace for an iron born and then he defied his dad by cowardly seizing an empty cirt. Why his dad wouldn't reinforce him when he got captured by Bolton.

  • @TheAnimefool

    @TheAnimefool

    6 ай бұрын

    Reminds me of Griffith when convinces himself even after being mutilated beyond recovery that he rise again only to have his indomitable resolve shattered moments later as he’s flung from the carriage and his arm is broken and hanging vertically as he lifts it

  • @MrFredstt
    @MrFredstt8 ай бұрын

    Theon is the type of character that at first you think you would love nothing more than for him to suffer but then you get to the part in the book where you figure out that Reek IS Theon and all of a sudden you feel such sympathy and wish he'd never suffered this much

  • @Gokiza

    @Gokiza

    8 ай бұрын

    Nah, I was laughing. Theon earned it

  • @Taunt61

    @Taunt61

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Gokiza edgy

  • @Gokiza

    @Gokiza

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Taunt61 deserved

  • @frozenwaffle206

    @frozenwaffle206

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@Gokiza no one deserves that. One day you'll grow up

  • @Gokiza

    @Gokiza

    7 ай бұрын

    @@frozenwaffle206 maybe you should do the goofy shit Theon did to get put in the position to be Reek. No need to grow more than I have, knowing that betraying the foster family that treated me better my own blood is as stupid as it gets is enough for me.

  • @Rude_i_Wredne
    @Rude_i_Wredne8 ай бұрын

    "Anyways, subscribe for more" feels here like something Ramsay would say.

  • @mikasaacerman6938

    @mikasaacerman6938

    3 ай бұрын

    Lmaooo

  • @williambutcher7429
    @williambutcher74298 ай бұрын

    Even Joffrey wasn’t that evil

  • @Arcaryon

    @Arcaryon

    8 ай бұрын

    To be fair, Joffrey did have quite a few years left to perfect his chosen method of „entertainment“.

  • @CatherinePearl100

    @CatherinePearl100

    8 ай бұрын

    I believe he was that evil, just not that creative.😅

  • @romanyukhaev4549

    @romanyukhaev4549

    8 ай бұрын

    He tells sansa after executing her father that he would have flayed ned stark if he didn't confess and wasent her father. So if he lived long enough he could grow up to it...

  • @CarolDowning-lm7fm

    @CarolDowning-lm7fm

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@Arcaryonyes he didn't get to live up to his full potential luckily.

  • @user-qm6jk2jh2h

    @user-qm6jk2jh2h

    8 ай бұрын

    Disagreed. Joffery just wasn't as creative. If he had thought of it, he would have done it.

  • @Thatoneguy48147
    @Thatoneguy481478 ай бұрын

    Im not a fan of what Theon does in the books (or the show for that matter) but what he went thru in both is just inhuman. And while alot of people who I’ve discussed about the character say he deserves it for what he did to Winterfell and House Stark, I think he got a worse punishment than what I believe Ramsay will eventually get in the books

  • @twiddlerat9920

    @twiddlerat9920

    8 ай бұрын

    Euron better get his hands on Ramsay or it ain’t worth it

  • @jordanford9320

    @jordanford9320

    8 ай бұрын

    He literally had two innocent children murdered I have little if any sympathy for him

  • @Thatoneguy48147

    @Thatoneguy48147

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jordanford9320 Again Im not a fan. But you also have to remember the theory that he may have killed his own sons, which he reflects upon while imprisoned

  • @jordanford9320

    @jordanford9320

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Thatoneguy48147 which is even more cruel I'm sorry my guy I can't with theon I will always try to find the best in people and give them benefit of the doubt but I just can't with theon

  • @Thatoneguy48147

    @Thatoneguy48147

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jordanford9320 fair enough. But my theory still holds that Theon will get a worse fate than Ramsay is gonna get

  • @msjkramey
    @msjkramey8 ай бұрын

    3 stone is 42 pounds for anyone wondering

  • @danielle4976

    @danielle4976

    6 ай бұрын

    and he was already pretty lean to start :(

  • @Random-fz2rg

    @Random-fz2rg

    4 ай бұрын

    And 42 pounds is 19 kg

  • @Kshthymyla

    @Kshthymyla

    3 ай бұрын

    I thought it was 60 lbs, isn’t a stone 20? And then that would be 27 kilos

  • @msjkramey

    @msjkramey

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Kshthymyla that would make too much sense. A stone is 14 pounds

  • @danielle4976

    @danielle4976

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Kshthymyla no one stone is 14 lbs

  • @alexblankenship5630
    @alexblankenship56308 ай бұрын

    Theon’s story in the books is the saddest for me. He shamefully betrayed the Stark’s and his own conscience. Living as Reek is worse than dying with the Stark’s would have been. But there is some hope of redemption at the end. I’m nervous that Ramsay will catch him again.

  • @laurabishop7588

    @laurabishop7588

    7 ай бұрын

    Not to mention falsely believing he would be welcomed back in the iron isles as a prince and basically being dismissed... when he betrayed the Starks to earn their respect. His story line is ridiculous.

  • @SCL111

    @SCL111

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@laurabishop7588 Theon was essentially just a boy wanting to earn the love of his father whom he hasn't seen in over a decade. He tried to fit in with the iron born by being ruthless and betrayed the Stark.

  • @laurabishop7588

    @laurabishop7588

    7 ай бұрын

    @@SCL111 Tellimg in itself, because he wasn't as ruthless as he pretended to be. He took Winterfell, but let Bran and Rickon live. He really was a BOY. It explains so much about his mentality.

  • @alexandrahammer9240
    @alexandrahammer92407 ай бұрын

    I hated Theon when he betrayed Rob but during the torture through Ramsey I just felt sorry for him😭

  • @jennat776
    @jennat7768 ай бұрын

    It isn't just hinted. On Ramsay's wedding night, Theon was made to do more than just watch.

  • @Random-fz2rg

    @Random-fz2rg

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah, he was made to "prepare" Jeyne (Or Arya)

  • @TheKpa11

    @TheKpa11

    2 ай бұрын

    I thought that moment was to also bring up that Ramsay flayed and then cut off his penis too. Theon never contemplates the loss of that in any other moment than that one

  • @aegorbittersteel2154
    @aegorbittersteel21548 ай бұрын

    That's what time with a Bolton will do to someone.

  • @pierredupont1000
    @pierredupont10002 ай бұрын

    Theon is one of the best written characters in asoiaf. People just start hating him after he betrays Robb and decides to try being awful at Winterfell, without trying to understand him and why he decided to act like that. As a reader is simple to just sit down and judge him, but as a persom who lives in that world, grew up with the Stark knowing that he would have never been one of them and also never been a real Greyjoy, is not to simple to take the right decision. Theon desperately wanted a place in that world, and people to call family. He thought that there was still a chance to gain his father approval, and showing hinself worthy of the name Greyjoy. And he betrayed Robb for this, repeating himself he always was a prisoner, a hostage for the Stark. When he realized what he had done it was too late, and the punishment he suffered because of his actions is atrocious.

  • @devanman7920
    @devanman79208 ай бұрын

    He can use a bow. He kept the bow fingers on his main hand. That's why people think Theon will kill Ramsey with a bow

  • @user-hv1lv9tl7c
    @user-hv1lv9tl7c8 ай бұрын

    And just before all this mess, Theon really considered to give up on Winterfell and wear black...

  • @gooby214

    @gooby214

    8 ай бұрын

    All he had to do was swallow his pride and ride with his men and Asha back to Deepwood Motte, as she told him.

  • @ugly_larva
    @ugly_larva8 ай бұрын

    Reading Theon's ADWD chapters made me sick. So dark but so well written

  • @dougy0324

    @dougy0324

    8 ай бұрын

    Was the best parts of the book

  • @tobymax10
    @tobymax106 ай бұрын

    Theon was a confused kid who was split between trying to make his father proud and loving the Stark’s for being like a family to him. He regretted what he did to winterfell. He may not have been a great guy but he didn’t deserve any of this

  • @gretacadeienjoytolife6981

    @gretacadeienjoytolife6981

    5 ай бұрын

    Agree❤ I miss my sweet Iron Prince

  • @dingodestroys5185
    @dingodestroys51858 ай бұрын

    He can still use a bow and hood a dagger. It’s stated in the books that Ramsey did this intentionally.

  • @susanhaigh6005
    @susanhaigh60058 ай бұрын

    Ramsey got his just due in the end… except for the fact that his death was far too quick. Theon was no Angel, but what Ramsey did was unspeakable

  • @lindsay9838

    @lindsay9838

    Ай бұрын

    In the books, he’s still doing just fine unfortunately. The only person who was ready to stand up to him was Jon and then the Night Watch killed him for it

  • @Carlosdreamur

    @Carlosdreamur

    22 күн бұрын

    @@lindsay9838Stannis the mannis can still beat his ass

  • @EGoWhittier
    @EGoWhittier8 ай бұрын

    Theon would suffer for years until Babba Yaga would come to finish him off....

  • @dragonballa5083

    @dragonballa5083

    6 ай бұрын

    Bruh

  • @SB-tv6en
    @SB-tv6en5 ай бұрын

    To feel such empathy for a fictional character, I truly empathize with anyone that has truly been in Theon’s position irl. Mind, spirit and body fractured and broken. So much time taken. Here is a fate worse than death.

  • @kendrickrochelanzot2053
    @kendrickrochelanzot20538 ай бұрын

    There are actually people who unironically ship it, which is wild af.

  • @JackieBOYoBOY

    @JackieBOYoBOY

    8 ай бұрын

    That's actually really sad. I feel bad for people like that

  • @fusiontoa18

    @fusiontoa18

    8 ай бұрын

    Tumblr

  • @omegamark9178

    @omegamark9178

    8 ай бұрын

    never underestimate the depravity of man

  • @Frodo1000000

    @Frodo1000000

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@JackieBOYoBOYwhat does ship mean

  • @JackieBOYoBOY

    @JackieBOYoBOY

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Frodo1000000 it's where you pair two fictional characters in a non canon romantic relationship

  • @Nenernener123
    @Nenernener1238 ай бұрын

    Alfie Allen was robbed from his earned Emmy awards!

  • @lindsay9838

    @lindsay9838

    Ай бұрын

    Alfie and Lena both should’ve won at some point for sure. Peter Dinklage is of course very talented but it felt like they just gave him the award every year because Tyrion was a beloved character.

  • @thecockerel86
    @thecockerel868 ай бұрын

    Theon's torture in books is brutal. They couldn't show any of it in the show.

  • @tonshmar

    @tonshmar

    8 ай бұрын

    Why not? They showed be headings and other gruesome content.

  • @icebox1954

    @icebox1954

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@tonshmarBeheadings are tame. Theon in the books went through something so horrible no program would ever be allowed to show it. It's at the same level of outrage as showing the rape of small children. Some things are so inhumane to look at that society would rather close its eyes to it rather than confronting the cruelty of the world.

  • @biihisme

    @biihisme

    8 ай бұрын

    ​​@@icebox1954except they did show rape, and specifically the rape of children in the show (sansa, she was underage so yes, she was a child). A completely pointless scene that wasn't even in the books. Sure wonder why that's where they decided to draw the line at what is "too much"

  • @connormcmurphy4276

    @connormcmurphy4276

    8 ай бұрын

    We don’t actually see any of the torture Theon goes through in the books. He disappears for a book, and then returns as reek. It’s all just implied or alluded to, never shown directly

  • @wobblesman4316

    @wobblesman4316

    6 ай бұрын

    @@tonshmarDepictions of extreme torture and sadism isn’t what many companies want to put out. Even if it’s a super adult program you’re essentially making your audience watch cartel level torture.

  • @justdan9264
    @justdan92648 ай бұрын

    Just imagine Alfie Allen looks like the Theon in the books

  • @chris_louis
    @chris_louis8 ай бұрын

    This Karma was disproportionate.

  • @jordanford9320

    @jordanford9320

    8 ай бұрын

    Not when you factor in. He had two innocent children murdered

  • @ogiebear8484

    @ogiebear8484

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jordanford9320that’s like the biggest factor, nobody is forgetting it. But do you think murdering someone else or two is worth ten lifetimes of suffering that nobody could even imagine? Up to you to decide.

  • @jordanford9320

    @jordanford9320

    8 ай бұрын

    @@ogiebear8484 ask the two dead kids (possibly theons bastards)

  • @ikmalkamal5830

    @ikmalkamal5830

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@ogiebear8484Thing here is, kinslaying is a big no no in Westeros. It's implied that the miller's kids are his, and when he killed them, you can bet that even the Drowned God is disgusted with him.

  • @John-kc4cg

    @John-kc4cg

    8 ай бұрын

    @@ogiebear8484 Yes. Evil must be punished in the harshest terms.

  • @TheMattsem
    @TheMattsem8 ай бұрын

    Not going to lie but I think even Ramsay dogs have their way with Theon it was hinted in the book

  • @stormbringer2840

    @stormbringer2840

    8 ай бұрын

    Where ?

  • @TheMattsem

    @TheMattsem

    8 ай бұрын

    @@stormbringer2840 it was a long time ago when I read it but Theon was sleeping with the dogs in their cages and he mentioned one of them was very rough

  • @CarolDowning-lm7fm

    @CarolDowning-lm7fm

    8 ай бұрын

    It wouldn't be the least bit surprising to think that Ramsey SAed Theon, he's just that depraved.

  • @diannemomon

    @diannemomon

    8 ай бұрын

    I missed that bit

  • @IchhabezuvielYoutubegegucktO_o

    @IchhabezuvielYoutubegegucktO_o

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@CarolDowning-lm7fmHe did either way, because if I remember correctly, Theo was involved in Ramsays Wedding night to perform acts on Jayne Pool. The latter has to act as a fake Arya and also has to perform acts with Ramsays dogs...

  • @cynfaelalek-walker7003
    @cynfaelalek-walker70038 ай бұрын

    He's comeback gonna be crazy, a reoccurring theme in ASOIAF is characters losing their best tools and being forced to get out of their comfort zone, for Jaime it was being a Great swordsman and he had to become cunning and for Theon it's his Charms and way of thinking, i cannot say however how GRRM would write him after he overcomes his Reek stage.

  • @ikeu6433
    @ikeu64338 ай бұрын

    Ramsey is trying to make the next Griffith 😂

  • @PedroLucas-mg5je

    @PedroLucas-mg5je

    4 ай бұрын

    If Theon founds a Behelit in TWOW, it's game damn over!

  • @Carlosdreamur

    @Carlosdreamur

    22 күн бұрын

    Except you have to sacrifice what’s dearest to you in order to become a demon. Ramsay seemingly holds nothing dear

  • @bentenlog4017
    @bentenlog40178 ай бұрын

    theon's story is one of the most traumatizing part of the series.

  • @bp7942
    @bp79428 ай бұрын

    No one outside that cursed isle knows how much a “stone” is

  • @connormcmurphy4276

    @connormcmurphy4276

    8 ай бұрын

    Jeez who hurt you?

  • @ricosalvaje5802

    @ricosalvaje5802

    8 ай бұрын

    Lol

  • @MikeYm98875

    @MikeYm98875

    26 күн бұрын

    Jealous ?

  • @CoolSmoovie
    @CoolSmoovieАй бұрын

    Medieval torture was brutal man. Being implied while alive and left to slide down a pole for days sounds like hell

  • @TehJumpingJawa
    @TehJumpingJawa8 ай бұрын

    Past-E is something you eat. Paste-E is when someone is lacking colour in their cheeks.

  • @justinhamilton8647

    @justinhamilton8647

    5 ай бұрын

    It’s an AI no point in correcting it

  • @n.5358
    @n.53588 ай бұрын

    I be dead before he even started to torture me

  • @tonysmith5566

    @tonysmith5566

    8 ай бұрын

    How?

  • @jdeqs2872

    @jdeqs2872

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@tonysmith5566by pressing alt then f4

  • @colbyd1496
    @colbyd14966 күн бұрын

    A Ghost In Winterfell. One of the best chapters of the entire series

  • @bronzelimac
    @bronzelimac8 ай бұрын

    What are the odds that somehow theon will meet euron greyjoy and be reborn after a blood magic sacrifice just like griffith?

  • @gooby214

    @gooby214

    8 ай бұрын

    Low. Euron is leagues away. Far far away in the south. And Stannis isn't going to let Theon get away, unless someone escapes with him (Asha?)

  • @saskiakraft
    @saskiakraft4 ай бұрын

    I just read the chapter where he decided to take the black and yield to Ser Roderik. It was so sad knowing that would have been him living his best life

  • @KindredKeepsake
    @KindredKeepsakeАй бұрын

    It's like Ramsay was MADE for House Bolton. Him getting legitimized was horrifically perfect. I can't imagine a more greater match between temperament and sigil.

  • @Nii-Yeboah
    @Nii-Yeboah8 ай бұрын

    That lighthearted “anyway subscribe for more” after all that caught me a bit off guard

  • @starwarfan8342
    @starwarfan83428 ай бұрын

    It was actually a torture technique that the communists in the Soviet Union used to do. The months of stress and torture on your body bleaches your hair. After months of starving and slowly wasting away to the point of being unrecognizable or even corpselike, the torturers would drag you to a mirror so you can see just how you've fallen as a final method of breaking your spirit completely.

  • @DeMonfa13

    @DeMonfa13

    8 ай бұрын

    Didn't they do that in Orwell's 1984 too?

  • @starwarfan8342

    @starwarfan8342

    8 ай бұрын

    @@DeMonfa13 yes Orwell took inspiration from the rise of both Hitler and Stalin

  • @arthurmoorhouse9841

    @arthurmoorhouse9841

    8 ай бұрын

    Is that what your capitalist overlords taught you at school mate

  • @Marz4325

    @Marz4325

    8 ай бұрын

    Proof?

  • @vidinhadovini

    @vidinhadovini

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@DeMonfa13yeah, I remembered that from the movie

  • @thesamejackalsniperthatkil117
    @thesamejackalsniperthatkil1177 ай бұрын

    Give me five reasons why house bolton shouldn't go extinct.

  • @KindredKeepsake

    @KindredKeepsake

    Ай бұрын

    I only have one reason: "Domeric Bolton", the only GOOD one in his f-ed up family. It's too bad there weren't more like him, but it kind of gives them hope that good men like him could still be possible in the family. But that's it... XD

  • @rahl169
    @rahl1698 ай бұрын

    Didn’t mention the castration

  • @terminallove3531

    @terminallove3531

    8 ай бұрын

    That happened in the books,too?

  • @lindsay9838

    @lindsay9838

    8 ай бұрын

    We don’t know if book Theon was castrated

  • @terminallove3531

    @terminallove3531

    8 ай бұрын

    @@lindsay9838 It isn't even implied?

  • @ogiebear8484

    @ogiebear8484

    8 ай бұрын

    @@terminallove3531I’m pretty sure it’s implied, just not outright stated, so can’t be sure

  • @lindsay9838

    @lindsay9838

    8 ай бұрын

    @@terminallove3531 Maybe🤷🏼‍♀️? You could assume, I guess, since he’s lost so much else. Never really ever talked about though. But Roose wanted him “whole”, even as a hostage, because Theon is basically worthless to the Iron Islands king if he can’t produce heirs, which makes him a worthless bargaining chip for Roose if it’s ever needed. Also, here’s part of Theon’s thoughts when a woman sits down in front of him during a feast and is annoying him: “He wanted to hit her, to smash that mocking smile off her face. He wanted to kiss her, to fuck her right there on the table and make her cry his name. But he knew **he dare not touch her, in anger or in lust**. Reek, Reek, my name is Reek. I must not forget my name. He jerked to his feet and made his way wordlessly to the doors, limping on his maimed feet.” He wants to bang that woman but knows he’ll pay the price if he even touches her so he removes himself from the situation. Seems to imply there ARE still some organs down there

  • @onyedikachukwumiracle
    @onyedikachukwumiracle8 ай бұрын

    What is dead may never die

  • @Schmidt54
    @Schmidt548 ай бұрын

    I recall that all his (remaining) teeth are shattered so that eating causes agony, but it has been years since I read

  • @Random-fz2rg

    @Random-fz2rg

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah

  • @mariapdr3261
    @mariapdr32618 ай бұрын

    When I read the people on post like these that argue that this kind of torture is an appropriate punishment for anything (torture should never be ok, it’s considered inhuman for a reason) I get seriously worried about the world we live in and the people in it.

  • @Revenant76

    @Revenant76

    7 ай бұрын

    Snowflake

  • @spensirmclife6549

    @spensirmclife6549

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@Revenant76Edgy Boy

  • @3headedpuppy
    @3headedpuppy6 ай бұрын

    For all the characters who didn’t get pusnished enough in those books, Theon was the only one I thought got punished to much. I mean ya he deserved to be punished but holy crap that was above and beyond what he deserved. Those chapters were painful to read. Bolton was a sick MFer

  • @ItalianStallion9790
    @ItalianStallion97907 ай бұрын

    Damn I thought tv series Ramsey was bad. Book Ramsey was just psychotic.

  • @thepunisher6674
    @thepunisher6674Ай бұрын

    Peng is like the mirrored version of Bkc they’re so polite but they disagree on a bunch

  • @JerdMcLean
    @JerdMcLean7 ай бұрын

    Theon is one of if not my favorite characters up there with Vic and the Mannis.

  • @Captain_Tuko
    @Captain_Tuko6 ай бұрын

    “His lips look like two worms fucking” Theon’s thoughts about Ramsey lips lol

  • @churchofthegreatpumpkin8564
    @churchofthegreatpumpkin85648 ай бұрын

    great video, will you be crediting any of the artists like at all?

  • @joshuahughes5761
    @joshuahughes57612 күн бұрын

    Least the TV show it seems like Ramsays more in a good mood then the books

  • @ricardoferreira67
    @ricardoferreira677 ай бұрын

    He had a fate far worse than death

  • @thebhome
    @thebhome8 ай бұрын

    Probably the worst fate of anyone in the book

  • @HeyKay_kay
    @HeyKay_kay7 ай бұрын

    Joffrey was a Monster but Ramsey was the devil.

  • @stevenharrison6689
    @stevenharrison66895 ай бұрын

    I’ve listened to the audiobooks at least 8 times over I can’t believe I’ve missed that. Love the books can’t wait for the next to come out.

  • @Random-fz2rg

    @Random-fz2rg

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah, in 30 years

  • @riderboyrj8017
    @riderboyrj80175 ай бұрын

    I think sansa should have given captive ramsey to theon to decide what to do with with him.

  • @Random-fz2rg

    @Random-fz2rg

    4 ай бұрын

    I think Theon is too scared of Ramsay and I think Ramsay would manipulate Theon into releasing him. Not that he has anywhere to go tho

  • @riderboyrj8017

    @riderboyrj8017

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Random-fz2rg but didn't theon was changed around that time? Like he regained his old self ?

  • @Random-fz2rg

    @Random-fz2rg

    4 ай бұрын

    @@riderboyrj8017 Theon didnt come back fully. He was still like quiet and shaky and just really fearful. Its even worse in the books. His entire survival instincts are flipped

  • @b.t.harris9005
    @b.t.harris90058 ай бұрын

    I always wondered what would happen if Theon and Joffrey's fate were swapped. Theon died of poisoning and Joffrey was handed over to Ramsay to become his new Reek. One of those What If scenarios.

  • @denawagner360
    @denawagner3607 ай бұрын

    Theon in the book suffered so much it was hard to read. His injuries were so phtsically intense, it was amazing he survived. Ramsey 💯 abused him in EVERY way. Ramsey went beyond inhuman on him. DAN & David's GOT version of Theon was so toned down.

  • @Random-fz2rg

    @Random-fz2rg

    4 ай бұрын

    Well if they showed the book accurate torture then half of us would be vomiting

  • @Jim-ke3vj
    @Jim-ke3vj2 ай бұрын

    His has turned pasty? Like the delicious food you can get in cornwall? 😂

  • @aresjpg816
    @aresjpg8168 ай бұрын

    Have you ever seen that photo of a guy who was in an experiment where he wasn’t able to see light for like month? well that was Theon Greyjoy.

  • @Tessa-vz1qb
    @Tessa-vz1qb8 ай бұрын

    "Subscribe for more" I think not 💀

  • @mix-jk3ys
    @mix-jk3ys8 ай бұрын

    Glokta : First, time ?

  • @robinbettschnitt3823

    @robinbettschnitt3823

    8 ай бұрын

    Underrated Comment 😂❤

  • @robinbettschnitt3823

    @robinbettschnitt3823

    8 ай бұрын

    Underrated comment 😂❤

  • @mix-jk3ys

    @mix-jk3ys

    8 ай бұрын

    @robinbettschnitt3823 i honestly didn't expect anyone to understand the reference i thought someone would say who the hell is glokta and i would reply will he is jaime lannister if George didn't stop at his hand basically jaime with theon's torture

  • @robinbettschnitt3823

    @robinbettschnitt3823

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@mix-jk3ysi loved the book series nine finger and glokta beeing my favorite 2 chars😂 Re- read it about a year ago still great books

  • @benwright6405

    @benwright6405

    8 ай бұрын

    Scrolling the comments paid off for this 👍👍

  • @-----Alcatraz------
    @-----Alcatraz------Ай бұрын

    Hard to feel bad Theon after he betrayed the Starks.

  • @Secretingredientiscrime
    @Secretingredientiscrime2 ай бұрын

    A lot of people are of the idea that Theon somewhat deserves this fate for his betrayal against House Stark. But, keep in mind, not even the Starks, the betrayed party, would have punished Theon as grotesquely as this.

  • @tgr.4550
    @tgr.45508 ай бұрын

    Living with the starks wasn't so bad after all was it Theon? 😆 🤣 😂

  • @gooby214

    @gooby214

    8 ай бұрын

    He took Winterfell because he wanted to compete against his sister for his birthright to the ironborn throne.

  • @mozes88
    @mozes885 ай бұрын

    Feels like what Grifith endured in Beserk, but 10-fold.

  • @theannouncer5538
    @theannouncer55384 ай бұрын

    George was really cooking with this one

  • @Random-fz2rg

    @Random-fz2rg

    4 ай бұрын

    He's like an evil genius

  • @AJ1990.
    @AJ1990.8 ай бұрын

    Did Theon really give his life for Bran the Broken.

  • @rickyjayster2586
    @rickyjayster25868 ай бұрын

    Betray the starks.... that's your punishment

  • @gooby214

    @gooby214

    8 ай бұрын

    He's a Greyjoy, not a Stark. Who cares if he "betrayed" them? The world doesn't revolve around them. GRRM would sooner have his darling Blackwoods rule the world than the Starks anyway.

  • @ricosalvaje5802

    @ricosalvaje5802

    8 ай бұрын

    Damn right.

  • @MCorpReview
    @MCorpReview8 ай бұрын

    He had it coming for his betrayal of the warrior king of the north😂

  • @CliffTooth
    @CliffTooth6 ай бұрын

    “My real father lost his head in kings landing”

  • @hsgame4088
    @hsgame40888 ай бұрын

    Now hes in the true kings hands. And i also think he will kill Ramsya with a bow while he is trying to flee. He can still use a bow he has enough fingers.

  • @queenxx1690
    @queenxx16908 ай бұрын

    In the show after Ramsey died he was all okay again which is stupid no consequences

  • @gooby214

    @gooby214

    8 ай бұрын

    Typical D&D, as always.

  • @Tyler_W

    @Tyler_W

    8 ай бұрын

    He lost his bits, so that's not nothing, and he never really recovered fully from the abuse. He just rediscovered his courage. The Fallout of Ramsey's abuse may not have been nearly as horrific, but it was far from being without consequences.

  • @mappingshaman5280

    @mappingshaman5280

    8 ай бұрын

    Lol no he wasn't "all OK again." Did you not see that scene where he's with his sister at a brothel in volantis? Or that scene where he's on a ship with yara and ellaria? Or that scene where euron is cutting out yara's mens tongues and theon gets shit scared and jumps in the water? If anything they emphasised his trauma too much. Once he was free of ramsay he should have grown his metaphorical balls back quicker. Of course he was mostly fine for season 8, but in season 6 and 7 he was still reek, just reek who calls himself theon.

  • @tym2083
    @tym20838 ай бұрын

    With Theon with Rob Stark instead of the Greyjoys and eventually the Bolton's, Rob could've easily defeated the Lannisters, made peace with Stannis, and made a deal with the Tyrells. His betrayal lead to so much worse for all of king's landing and westeros. He finally had power, real power and respect from the starks and he used it to break House Stark and make everyone's life on the continent worse for it. That being said, he should've been executed instead of this treatment.

  • @philippeblais8594

    @philippeblais8594

    8 ай бұрын

    I don't think Robb would have been able to make peace with Stannis unless Robb bent the knee and swore fealty to Stannis. Because the Mannis is just uncompromising in his decisions. It's his way or no way at all.

  • @bitterfox518

    @bitterfox518

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@philippeblais8594could've been another Dorn situation, where they were kind of vassals of the IT, but still autonomous

  • @gooby214

    @gooby214

    8 ай бұрын

    @@bitterfox518 Nope. Stannis does not bargain. His way, or the pyre.

  • @mappingshaman5280

    @mappingshaman5280

    8 ай бұрын

    Lmao no. If theon was with robb, robb would have eventually lost. Once the tyrells joined the lannisters, that was the match set. Everything after that was a dead king walking.

  • @wikipediaintellectual7088
    @wikipediaintellectual708819 күн бұрын

    "His skin has turned pasti 🥗"

  • @pkfd1
    @pkfd12 ай бұрын

    This is my most hated character-ramsey- Horrid character

  • @melisspooky
    @melisspooky6 ай бұрын

    Theon did some fucked up shit, as did a lot of the other characters in the series. He deserved punishment and the chance to atone for what he did. But this punishment was far too much.

  • @SCL111
    @SCL1117 ай бұрын

    Theon has identidy crisis before he met Ramsey. An iron born raised by the Stark. He tried to earn the respect of his father and the other iron borns when he should have said F them and sided with the family that he grew up with.

  • @BlooomAgain
    @BlooomAgain6 ай бұрын

    He gave them the Tokyo Ghoul Jason torture treatment

  • @shaftomite007
    @shaftomite0072 күн бұрын

    The Boltons go harder than a Mexican drug cartel

  • @Alahdeen_
    @Alahdeen_Ай бұрын

    Reminds me of Aerys in Duskendale

  • @armyaj
    @armyaj8 ай бұрын

    Pasty lmao

  • @CBA291
    @CBA291Ай бұрын

    Sickening just to read this. Martin's mind is....somehow troubled.😢

  • @michael_krueger
    @michael_kruegerАй бұрын

    Ive never heard someone pronounce pasty like that

  • @jiggyjongles
    @jiggyjongles7 ай бұрын

    It's not hinted at all. It's spelled out in great detail.

  • @Greeny1308
    @Greeny13088 ай бұрын

    "My name is Reek, it rhymes with meek"

  • @little_tish8452
    @little_tish8452Ай бұрын

    There's something wrong with George Martin for writing shit like this

  • @namor3607
    @namor36074 ай бұрын

    The Theon stuff is just sick.

  • @ts25679
    @ts256798 ай бұрын

    Pasty to sound like tasty. The pronunciation you used is for a Cornish pastery. I know the English language isn't helping here

  • @markanthony1004
    @markanthony10048 ай бұрын

    Well, at least he finally escaped sort of

  • @Brett-uq4tz
    @Brett-uq4tz2 ай бұрын

    did George take notes from berserk? Yeesh!

  • @nightwinddemon
    @nightwinddemon8 ай бұрын

    The difference between Joffrey and Ramsay is the difference between Lawful Evil and Chaotic Evil.

  • @tacoknight5027
    @tacoknight50275 ай бұрын

    So Theon is like a discount version of Griffith then?

  • @Formally-known-Prince-Andrew
    @Formally-known-Prince-Andrew6 ай бұрын

    My skin turned steak bake

  • @axis7879
    @axis78792 ай бұрын

    Ngl i don't believe anybody would realisticly would survive at torture like that as theon(reek) like George R.R. Martin exaggerated extremely

  • @chriswalls5648
    @chriswalls56486 ай бұрын

    The way you said pasty. Is he turned into somebodies lunch?

  • @palmtree1905
    @palmtree19054 ай бұрын

    Ramsey was def gay in the books and def SA theon

  • @jeeusinthebug2
    @jeeusinthebug22 ай бұрын

    Im curious in the show I think I remember ramsay flaying one of his fingers but I can't remember if he lost all the fingers that had been lost in the books

  • @joshuahughes5761

    @joshuahughes5761

    2 күн бұрын

    Think he only lost that finger

  • @jeeusinthebug2

    @jeeusinthebug2

    Күн бұрын

    @@joshuahughes5761 darn, wish the show had actually made it more of the book version where he lost toes/fingers