Why the UK Runs Trains to Nowhere

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  • @avcomth
    @avcomth5 жыл бұрын

    In Japan there was a ghost train line on Hokkaido that ran to a certain station that only had one patron, a highschool student. The station was closed when that student graduated albeit the train itself was a near ghost train to begin with.

  • @paulghencea9037

    @paulghencea9037

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol that's cool they kept it untill he graduated

  • @cirocciroc

    @cirocciroc

    4 жыл бұрын

    Too bad no babies

  • @Dazzxp

    @Dazzxp

    4 жыл бұрын

    The student was going to flunk their exams so the train company put in a bribe so the student could pass and they get to close the station down lol.

  • @samuelthecamel

    @samuelthecamel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Is there some law that prevents them from closing stations that people are still using?

  • @owenpook2262

    @owenpook2262

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@samuelthecamel It's probably a similar process to this one, and they were probably just being nice

  • @matherubik114
    @matherubik1144 жыл бұрын

    Americans: One train a week is normal Britons: "Oh I've missed my train I'll wait 5 minutes for the next one"

  • @sublivion5024

    @sublivion5024

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Adi Odjidja really depends on the route, some main line routes have around 10 trains per hour which is on average a 5 minute wait

  • @karinisaksson1961

    @karinisaksson1961

    3 жыл бұрын

    if the uk had a route anywhere even remotely like the empire builder, they wouldn't run it very often either.

  • @bumb.wingman

    @bumb.wingman

    3 жыл бұрын

    In japan, Theres train every minute.

  • @hibikismusic3103

    @hibikismusic3103

    3 жыл бұрын

    東京民:東京に行きたい。中央線?山手線?丸ノ内線? 結論:全部いける

  • @JoseFernandez-cz4ox

    @JoseFernandez-cz4ox

    3 жыл бұрын

    New york would take around 3-20 minutes for the next train, its usually between 4-7 minutes

  • @Larry
    @Larry6 жыл бұрын

    Highly enjoyable listening to an American mangle British town and city names :D

  • @jonoesquirryl

    @jonoesquirryl

    3 жыл бұрын

    And the word “route” lol

  • @a2pabmb2

    @a2pabmb2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jonoesquirryl Oh get routed.

  • @Gebieter

    @Gebieter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Welcome... that's how it feels to watch ANY international stuff while living in ANY country, except the few English speaking ones.

  • @nastyhvacr

    @nastyhvacr

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s not are fault you guys have wierd towne names.

  • @archiecroft7114

    @archiecroft7114

    3 жыл бұрын

    Patrick Nastachowski You cannot criticise a places town names if you can’t spell town

  • @liamtahaney713
    @liamtahaney7135 жыл бұрын

    Huston: “Why is our traffic so bad???” Also Huston: *3 trains a week*

  • @saaj_uk

    @saaj_uk

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dont forget Euston I see 300+ trains

  • @liasilina

    @liasilina

    5 жыл бұрын

    Liam Tahaney houston*

  • @065Tim

    @065Tim

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@justdanixl9799 Ever hear of commuters? Just a wild guess here but I don't think Houstons traffic is at its worse on a Saturday night, when people go to restaurants.

  • @Anonymous_Man

    @Anonymous_Man

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@justdanixl9799 In the US. You absolutely can and will take one in Europe and Japan.

  • @065Tim

    @065Tim

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@justdanixl9799 I experience commuting every day. So now you can't deny your point is moot by your logic.

  • @katrinabryce
    @katrinabryce6 жыл бұрын

    Actually, Chiltern do want to continue running this service. It keeps a stretch of railway line open and maintained which would otherwise have no traffic, so that when there are engineering works at Marylebone, they can divert their other train services to Paddington and keep the trains running. Some weekends, you will find a full service to High Wycombe and Birmingham Snow Hill when Marylebone is closed. These services are called parliamentary trains, not ghost trains.

  • @kiyahicks356

    @kiyahicks356

    5 жыл бұрын

    Why is this comment not at the top ^?

  • @aikonoklas

    @aikonoklas

    5 жыл бұрын

    Glad to learn of this

  • @turbo100fish

    @turbo100fish

    5 жыл бұрын

    Also a lot of these services are used for training purposes for both new and current employees within the franchises

  • @TheHaters112

    @TheHaters112

    5 жыл бұрын

    Chiltern is also good when the Metropolitan inevitably fails. Which it will...this week at Harrow-on-the-Hill

  • @brianparker663

    @brianparker663

    4 жыл бұрын

    Best comment here - and true.

  • @RastaRocker614
    @RastaRocker6146 жыл бұрын

    i swear I feel like this 1 voice has atleast 3-4 channels XD

  • @animator765

    @animator765

    6 жыл бұрын

    and a few podcasts...

  • @Mr6Sinner

    @Mr6Sinner

    6 жыл бұрын

    Just thinking the same

  • @brunor.1127

    @brunor.1127

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think he has 2 channels atleast

  • @deviltari8638

    @deviltari8638

    6 жыл бұрын

    Soviet Onion yeah, Wendover Productions

  • @Matmamtmamtmamtmamtm

    @Matmamtmamtmamtmamtm

    6 жыл бұрын

    What the Wendover aviation shit that tends to be very accurate?

  • @ConradRDakarn
    @ConradRDakarn6 жыл бұрын

    You actually give the reason why those lines/trains still run in the video....144 people still used one of those lines. That's enough to warrant a service. I used to live in the middle of the countryside in a tiny hamlet. There was a number of older people there who didn't have cars any more as they'd either gotten too old or couldn't afford them. We had a bus service.....HAD..... At first it was every 2 hours between 8am and 6pm. Then it was once a day....then it stopped. These people who relying on the bus to get into the local town were suddenly stranded. They may have only used the bus once or twice a week but they NEEDED that bus to get anywhere. As did the folks in the other hamlets and villages which that bus passed through. Public services are supposed to serve the PUBLIC....not private business owners. That's why this process exists and requires notification to the PUBLIC about the actions the company wants to take and the chance for the people to speak out against those changes...the people who would be affected by them. When an industry is subsided by the government, it better well be prepared to serve the public as THEY are the investors.

  • @NoOnesBCE

    @NoOnesBCE

    5 жыл бұрын

    There really comes a number when subsidizing taxies would be cheaper.

  • @superbladeash

    @superbladeash

    5 жыл бұрын

    It’s not just that though. These services run purely to keep the line as an option incase of any problems or maintenance.

  • @stevebell4906

    @stevebell4906

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is contrasted by the USA where the reverse is most often the case...It would appear that i the US The public isat best, simply a nuisance and inconvenience to be tolerated in your righteous endless crusade to make money

  • @KasabianFan44

    @KasabianFan44

    4 жыл бұрын

    144 passengers a year is enough to warrant a service?! 😂 Not even close mate! Especially when you consider that both Denton and Reddish South are only a short distance away from stations on other lines, which are served regularly.

  • @seprishere

    @seprishere

    4 жыл бұрын

    Quite. It's not like Denton and Reddish South are in the middle of nowhere. But I think the train companies see enough operational benefits to keep the line available (e.g. as a diversion route) to suffer the cost of running a token service (which now is once a week *each way*).

  • @lewisbaker5977
    @lewisbaker59775 жыл бұрын

    Love listening to him mispronounce almost every location 😂

  • @Infinity9_

    @Infinity9_

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mar-le-bone not Mary-le-bone

  • @cj19030

    @cj19030

    5 жыл бұрын

    It’s weird because he lives there in London/UK

  • @joshuahawkes7218

    @joshuahawkes7218

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@cj19030Edingbourgh I think

  • @Tankliker

    @Tankliker

    5 жыл бұрын

    One question. Where do they get the trains from? Last time I traveled from Glasgow to London I had to change the goddamn train 4 times at the same station. 2 of the train never showed of because they don't have enough. Because of that I missed the eurotunnel train but luckily they already new that problem and after that we could go with one later. All after we had to sleep a night in Frankfurt because there we missed the last train to Erfurt and that all because they don't have enough trains in England.

  • @Th3_Gael

    @Th3_Gael

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuahawkes7218 it's Edinburgh (e-din-burra)

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor54626 жыл бұрын

    And that one passenger was there to film the empty train, not to go to where it was going, I assume.

  • @teyxen

    @teyxen

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well, nobody in their right mind would want to go to High Wycombe, so I can only assume you're right.

  • @SenorGuina

    @SenorGuina

    6 жыл бұрын

    teyxen what's wrong with High Whycombe?

  • @KilosWorld

    @KilosWorld

    6 жыл бұрын

    only like 3 people live there I assume

  • @AdamSmith-gs2dv

    @AdamSmith-gs2dv

    6 жыл бұрын

    Maybe it was Geoff lol

  • @MrHarsh3600

    @MrHarsh3600

    6 жыл бұрын

    Are you on Quora?

  • @ciscocastello3561
    @ciscocastello35614 жыл бұрын

    I’m genuinely in shock at Houston’s train station. We have bus stops bigger than that!

  • @gfjfjufidi2880

    @gfjfjufidi2880

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cisco Castello nobody uses trains in the US.

  • @scottandrewhutchins

    @scottandrewhutchins

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gfjfjufidi2880 In the northeast we do.

  • @daraptor5281

    @daraptor5281

    4 жыл бұрын

    Scott Andrew Hutchins that’s cuz ur dumb libtards

  • @scottandrewhutchins

    @scottandrewhutchins

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@daraptor5281 You don't use trains in other parts of the country because "conservatives" (conservatards) are stupidly wasteful and hate mass transit,.

  • @daraptor5281

    @daraptor5281

    4 жыл бұрын

    Scott Andrew Hutchins why would I need a transit, I live out In the farm land. I don’t want ur fucking trains running through our town, U damn soy sipping pile of shit!

  • @Sam-zq4yx
    @Sam-zq4yx6 жыл бұрын

    Sorry but High Wycombe isn’t the middle of nowhere. The reason it goes there is because it has a one-way platform where the train can terminate and then go back the other way, whereas the other stations on the children route don’t have this.

  • @perkhs6778

    @perkhs6778

    4 жыл бұрын

    Zrz ikr uncultured swines

  • @nonameunfortunately

    @nonameunfortunately

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh

  • @joesos

    @joesos

    4 жыл бұрын

    children? i think you meant chiltern

  • @natashamcd12

    @natashamcd12

    4 жыл бұрын

    Right! 😂

  • @amberio

    @amberio

    Жыл бұрын

    Wycombe is famous for their chair making if you guys didn't know

  • @EliteRowmaster
    @EliteRowmaster6 жыл бұрын

    Is anyone else thinking about how nice and peaceful it would be to ride one if these trains alone taking up like 4 seats and reading a good book and eating a nice takeout meal??

  • @michaelhammond5412

    @michaelhammond5412

    6 жыл бұрын

    EliteRowmaster. Dear, really, you sound so jealous of the UK. L.o.l.

  • @jimmcdiarmid7308

    @jimmcdiarmid7308

    5 жыл бұрын

    EliteRowmaster 28 miles, 1/2 hour

  • @eatingcereal5646

    @eatingcereal5646

    3 жыл бұрын

    Introvert spotted. But to be honest, that sounds pretty bomb.

  • @gamermapper

    @gamermapper

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@eatingcereal5646 Poland can into space lol

  • @gamermapper

    @gamermapper

    3 жыл бұрын

    Spooky too

  • @Rosario_Verano
    @Rosario_Verano6 жыл бұрын

    Going to the fucking moon would be easier than closing a line.

  • @POLARTTYRTM

    @POLARTTYRTM

    6 жыл бұрын

    U cant go threw the earf's dome, rokets dosent work in zpace, u cant go too the moom, weke up, the moom is hollogrem, the earf is flet! /s

  • @IntarwebUser

    @IntarwebUser

    6 жыл бұрын

    And yet, it's never been done.

  • @romanfox5368

    @romanfox5368

    6 жыл бұрын

    And nobody's gone to the moon, so...

  • @POLARTTYRTM

    @POLARTTYRTM

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was joking but dunno about these 2 dudes.

  • @POLARTTYRTM

    @POLARTTYRTM

    6 жыл бұрын

    I hope they are joking because I argue with flattards practically everyday.

  • @JamesLawsonSmith
    @JamesLawsonSmith6 жыл бұрын

    I have been on the Paddington - High Wycombe "Ghost Train" a few times and it is great to have an entire train all to yourself. I used to live in High Wycombe not far from the station.

  • @seededsoul

    @seededsoul

    6 жыл бұрын

    James Lawson-Smith You have a chauffeur (the conductor), and a whole road to yourself, for only a few pounds. Very inefficient.

  • @JamesLawsonSmith

    @JamesLawsonSmith

    6 жыл бұрын

    Even less so when they run it with not one passenger.

  • @JamesLawsonSmith

    @JamesLawsonSmith

    6 жыл бұрын

    But then you would have to share to train.

  • @AndrewTaylorNintyuk

    @AndrewTaylorNintyuk

    6 жыл бұрын

    well every British train has to have a ticket checker/conductor to man the doors so someone would notice.

  • @JamesLawsonSmith

    @JamesLawsonSmith

    6 жыл бұрын

    yes, no stops

  • @milwaukeesomething
    @milwaukeesomething4 жыл бұрын

    Make a video about why Houston (a city of over 2 million people) runs three trains a week to a little shack!

  • @KMn048

    @KMn048

    4 жыл бұрын

    It would be pretty short. Theres no demand, gas is dirt cheap down there so people just drive

  • @Michael-ee4tr

    @Michael-ee4tr

    4 жыл бұрын

    Videos from his other channel that help explain bad US trains/transit kzread.info/dash/bejne/n5Z5yNyuc6_VcbQ.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/X5eeyLaAaKfIp6Q.html

  • @joesos

    @joesos

    3 жыл бұрын

    one word. america.

  • @Trains_Travel_NZ

    @Trains_Travel_NZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KMn048 Are you sure there is no demand? Amtrak did a report showing that demand would be greater and losses smaller if they ran daily (and again, less if they ran twice daily) but freight railroads won't let them

  • @TheElusiveReality

    @TheElusiveReality

    Жыл бұрын

    cuz thats just how america works lol

  • @DanHughesNC
    @DanHughesNC6 жыл бұрын

    This isn't a sign of government inefficiently. It's actually a sign of a country learning from past mistakes and government working exactly as intended. The UK's rural economy and and the national environmental quality was changed forever in the 1960s when the Macmillan government decided to study and close "unprofitable" rail lines and stations. 2,363 stations and 6000 miles of track were permanently closed. What the study failed to consider in its profitability calculations was the cost benefit the stations are tracks provided. While busses appeared cheaper (the proposed alternative), travel times became impractically long for may purposes. Existing roads become congested and new roads had to be built. Roads and cars are obviously far less efficient and far more damaging than trains and tracks. Just like roads, rail systems are infrastructure and just like roads, there can't really be unprofitable rail systems when you properly analyze their benefits. The UK's process for line closure is now intentionally onerous and extraordinarily thorough.

  • @QuarioQuario54321

    @QuarioQuario54321

    6 жыл бұрын

    Dan Hughes A lot of lines closed in the 60s that would be really useful today. I’d also build stations in the middle of nowhere but with a road to encourage developers to build there. And it would be a regular stop.

  • @SouthLondonRailwayPhotography

    @SouthLondonRailwayPhotography

    6 жыл бұрын

    There were quite a few lines in Glasgow shut in the 60s, some reopened but others with good links remain closed.

  • @CaptainQuo

    @CaptainQuo

    6 жыл бұрын

    The fact there is no train line between Aberdeen and Peterhead since the 70s when the oil was discovered still baffles me, especially since Peterhead has a large port and it would be the most efficient way to move the oil onshore from Orkney and then by freight to Aberdeen and beyond. Not to mention a bus there is an hour and a half.

  • @sotabaka

    @sotabaka

    5 жыл бұрын

    karma is a bitch and lived in Iran in 1972 🙄

  • @toukyoumasters3494

    @toukyoumasters3494

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes. But do they really need a train from Paddington to High Wycombe? I'm quite sure the average Wycomber would survive with having to land at one of the other numerous London termeni.

  • @aechz9138
    @aechz91386 жыл бұрын

    Step 1:Perform a transport appraisal Step 2:??? Step 3:Profit

  • @mrclueuin

    @mrclueuin

    6 жыл бұрын

    Malte Laukötter I guess somebody never watch South Park. 😏

  • @TheRsBritain
    @TheRsBritain6 жыл бұрын

    0:51 Heathrow- Planes Confirmed

  • @marioprz0476

    @marioprz0476

    6 жыл бұрын

    TheRsBritain YES!

  • @lmao.3661

    @lmao.3661

    6 жыл бұрын

    Don’t Please

  • @lilHamster9t7

    @lilHamster9t7

    6 жыл бұрын

    "The service to manchester is having trouble, please board the replacement plane"

  • @callumgrimes6789
    @callumgrimes67895 жыл бұрын

    "virgin east coast runs the east coast route" *Laughs in LNER*

  • @tescotrain

    @tescotrain

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sharoneckworth5541 LAUGHS IN EAST MIDLANDS RAILWAY

  • @willgibson8970

    @willgibson8970

    2 жыл бұрын

    LNER slaps Virgin Trains. Proof for me that the nationalisation of our rail works

  • @normanusrex7910
    @normanusrex79104 жыл бұрын

    3:53 Imagine how bad the British train network would be, if it WASN'T that difficult to close a line: That's right! It would look like in Houston, Texas!

  • @gamermapper

    @gamermapper

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's why we need middle ground

  • @supernenechi

    @supernenechi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gamermapper This seems almost perfect. Trains aren't very profitable on their own, but with government support they can be. Don't privatise railway companies is the solution, so this really is already a middle ground. If you don't agree with me, look at the state of the US and their rail network. That's what happens if you totally privatise the rail service for passengers..

  • @orppranator5230

    @orppranator5230

    Жыл бұрын

    @@supernenechi Don't privatize rail tracks, is what you mean. The companies themselves should be private because that's the best way to ensure the lowest costs and most innovation. You keep the tracks public because you need to ensure that monopolies don't get created by Company A banning other companies from using Company A's tracks; that's just one example.

  • @sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986

    @sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986

    Жыл бұрын

    @@orppranator5230that’s the system we already have in Britain of private rail companies but stations and rail networks are public and it’s a complete disaster the worst of both worlds.

  • @code-on-Trip-app

    @code-on-Trip-app

    2 ай бұрын

    Some companies are OK, some are not. But you can choose from third-party platforms and get discounts.

  • @LakeSG1985
    @LakeSG19856 жыл бұрын

    "On the day this footage was filmed, there was only one (passenger)" I don't see anyone in your shot. Spooky...

  • @halfasinteresting

    @halfasinteresting

    6 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately I didn't have one of those autonomous robot cameras so there had to be someone behind the camera

  • @jonstfrancis

    @jonstfrancis

    6 жыл бұрын

    So the one person was yourself?

  • @andreaaristokrates9516

    @andreaaristokrates9516

    6 жыл бұрын

    Filip Starberg Stock footage of ghost trains? Well if that isn't a buiseness model! *leaves house with camera*

  • @Annadog40

    @Annadog40

    6 жыл бұрын

    He does use some stock footage, he has an add about it somewhere I think.

  • @TheMaplestrip

    @TheMaplestrip

    6 жыл бұрын

    "somewhere", Filip? Sounds like Wendover isn't advertising his stock photo service well enough :p But yeah, I'd say it's unlikely for stock video to exist of this specific train. Then again, this sounds like a useful train to record stock video in, seeing as it is likely to be empty.

  • @theokchannel2081
    @theokchannel20816 жыл бұрын

    About half as sarcastic

  • @franslilja9611

    @franslilja9611

    6 жыл бұрын

    You made my day

  • @lofineet5093

    @lofineet5093

    6 жыл бұрын

    theokchannel lmao

  • @oubahumukhalid4856

    @oubahumukhalid4856

    6 жыл бұрын

    theokchannel jdkl

  • @WASIURPA

    @WASIURPA

    6 жыл бұрын

    Its 939292992939292939292929939292939392 times sarcastic

  • @janvincentcatalan6015

    @janvincentcatalan6015

    6 жыл бұрын

    theokchannel hu hhj

  • @nappabond3238
    @nappabond32385 жыл бұрын

    Wait so Paddington gets his own train? Damn that little bear really is a national treasure.

  • @bennickss

    @bennickss

    4 жыл бұрын

    Are you an idiot? Paddington was named AFTER LONDON PADDINGTON STATION.

  • @DoABarrelRol1l

    @DoABarrelRol1l

    4 жыл бұрын

    West Midlands Trainspotting : Telford and Beyond! Lol. Btw what did the bears call him, before he visited Europe?

  • @bennickss

    @bennickss

    4 жыл бұрын

    DoABarrelRoll In the movie, he says his name is REEEEEE. We need a bear translator

  • @nappabond3238

    @nappabond3238

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bennickss Umm you do realize it was a joke right? You must be on the spectrum. Hiiiii buuuuddddyyyyyy hooooowwwww arrreeeee yooouuuuuu

  • @gwinear6940

    @gwinear6940

    4 жыл бұрын

    West Midlands Trainspotting : Telford and Beyond! r/woooosh

  • @perkhs6778
    @perkhs67784 жыл бұрын

    We made it boys!!!!! Wycombe has now been viewed by 2M ppl. So proud

  • @botedly

    @botedly

    Жыл бұрын

    I used to live in Barlaston and was shocked to find out why they started running a rail replacement bus all those years ago 😅

  • @FutureNow
    @FutureNow6 жыл бұрын

    My neighborhood's train stop in the Boston area is closing for renovations for TWO YEARS. I wish we had a European transit system. 😓

  • @73APhotography

    @73APhotography

    6 жыл бұрын

    FutureNow London Bridge has effectively been closer to through trains for 5 years and won’t be completed for another one. And that’s one of the busiest in the country :/

  • @FutureNow

    @FutureNow

    6 жыл бұрын

    Okay maybe in this situation England isn't that much better than New England.

  • @tenaciousdean6179

    @tenaciousdean6179

    6 жыл бұрын

    The rail prices in England are absolutely ridiculous. It costs me more to get home (20 miles) via train (£10 rail ticket, £10 for buses) than it does by car (£5-£10 fuel), which is also twice as fast.

  • @robinbrobjer2594

    @robinbrobjer2594

    6 жыл бұрын

    FutureNow get a car

  • @Luka-gs7us

    @Luka-gs7us

    6 жыл бұрын

    The UK is basically the America of Europe though. Our trains are awful compared all the other northern European countries

  • @door-to-doorhentaisalesman2978
    @door-to-doorhentaisalesman29786 жыл бұрын

    It's a train going to Hogwart's.

  • @alibitv9083

    @alibitv9083

    6 жыл бұрын

    Actually confusing Marylebone with Paddington and getting on this Chiltern train is a bit like JK Rowling confusing King's Cross with Euston. Just works perfect.

  • @lanfanji7784

    @lanfanji7784

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hogwarts is in Scotland and most of these trains are in England or Wales 😂

  • @nitro300

    @nitro300

    6 жыл бұрын

    Is the platform 9 3/4?

  • @zalepirmas652
    @zalepirmas6525 жыл бұрын

    50 thousand people used to live here ... *NOW ITS A GHOST TOWN*

  • @tharealgaming5802

    @tharealgaming5802

    5 жыл бұрын

    I just subbed 2 u

  • @echristopherson78

    @echristopherson78

    5 жыл бұрын

    Too much fighting on the dance floor

  • @aleksandar122

    @aleksandar122

    5 жыл бұрын

    We are in Ukraine, 1996.

  • @ArikHarv

    @ArikHarv

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@aleksandar122 1996????

  • @aleksandar122

    @aleksandar122

    4 жыл бұрын

    TheSimulation 1996 is the time when the mission that has this quote starts.

  • @ShawnRavenfire
    @ShawnRavenfire6 жыл бұрын

    I'd rather the UK ghost trains than the US no-trains-at-all. Car dealers hand off giant sums of money to politicians to keep train stations closed, and to stick the industrial parks and shopping centers WAY far away from the residential areas.

  • @thomasw4422

    @thomasw4422

    5 жыл бұрын

    Keep the trains👌👍

  • @IbangedYaMama

    @IbangedYaMama

    5 жыл бұрын

    But there are trains in the US !?

  • @IbangedYaMama

    @IbangedYaMama

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ordinarychef Of course everybody wants to drive themselves, public transportation is filled with weirdos and the worst of humanity. Who in their right mind would prefer that over the comfort and peace of your own car ?

  • @naffnafff

    @naffnafff

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@IbangedYaMama Earth's climate.

  • @meerkat9783

    @meerkat9783

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@IbangedYaMama ever tried British public transport? Very few weirdos (unless you count the Friday/Saturday night dry trains in Cumbria- they're just drunk marras though so not that bad) and it's not all that bad. Wush they'd replace the Sprinters with old school loco stock though. Far comfier.

  • @FutureNow
    @FutureNow6 жыл бұрын

    I had to rewatch step 2 a few times.

  • @TheFreezeChill

    @TheFreezeChill

    6 жыл бұрын

    As a non native speaker I am proud to say that I only had to rewatch it once :D

  • @moriono8620

    @moriono8620

    6 жыл бұрын

    TheFreezeChill Good Job! What is your 1st language

  • @richardsun6435

    @richardsun6435

    6 жыл бұрын

    i had to rewatch step 2 once a day

  • @e1123581321345589144

    @e1123581321345589144

    6 жыл бұрын

    come on people, that's the easiest one. What's so difficult in publish your proposal of closure including the findings of your transport appraisal six moths before the proposed closing date in one local paper and two national papers for two weeks continuously?

  • @FutureNow

    @FutureNow

    6 жыл бұрын

    i had to reread your comment a few times

  • @parkerruggier9687
    @parkerruggier96876 жыл бұрын

    i find the title of this video to be a bit misleading. i thought it would be something different and more interesting. but they aren't really trains to "nowhere." they start at one station and go to another station, just like trains normally do. they are just unpopular or infrequent. perhaps a better title would be "Why the UK Runs Ghost Trains" or empty trains or unpopular routes or anything that gives a better sense of what you are actually talking about

  • @muchdoge8351

    @muchdoge8351

    6 жыл бұрын

    Parker Ruggier So you could say that the actual topic was Half As Interesting

  • @rick92rr

    @rick92rr

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yep, I wanted to know what was in those places, and why those few people even go there.

  • @lindseygordon3406

    @lindseygordon3406

    6 жыл бұрын

    He American and can't help it bless him, they often sound insulting when describing things outside America 😏😏😏😂😂😂

  • @Mary1337

    @Mary1337

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's not misleading. Trains start somewhere and end somewhere. Saying "nowhere" basically means less population or more empty.

  • @1mfilms

    @1mfilms

    6 жыл бұрын

    Reddish South and Denton Stations mentioned in this video are virtually "nowhere" as almost no one is at these stations throughout the whole year. As a train enthusiast myself, I personally found this video interesting... but to each their own. =)

  • @JonWhite82
    @JonWhite825 жыл бұрын

    "Inefficiency and bureaucracy" as the video suggests, or actually a process to ensure public services are protected for the benefit of citizens and democratic oversight of the public transport system?

  • @PrezVeto

    @PrezVeto

    5 жыл бұрын

    Except it's ensuring the complete waste of ghost train runs, isn't it?

  • @tigercat418

    @tigercat418

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@PrezVeto deport and deport

  • @oleggorky906

    @oleggorky906

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, he uses those terms because he has an agenda against the UK (the fact that a SERVICE is ACTUALLY provided he would probably put down to a socialist conspiracy, seeing as a big corporation isn't beneffiting but the locals are.) Every time he makes a video featuring us it is, biased, sarcastic and misleading. See for yourself: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nXdsvMR8f9vVpbA.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/d2uE19iIe9Onqdo.html

  • @Alucard-gt1zf

    @Alucard-gt1zf

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PrezVeto having 5 or so ghost trains in exchange for practically half of train services don't shut down seems like a good exchange to me

  • @PrezVeto

    @PrezVeto

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Alucard-gt1zf The five or so are still a complete waste that don't need to be.

  • @MatthewPlato91
    @MatthewPlato916 жыл бұрын

    I live in High Wycombe! Great way to start your video! Thanks for featuring the town haha. I didn't realise we got 95 trains per day to London, that sounds pretty impressive. I've been on the parliamentary 'ghost' train once before- interestingly enough though they are looking into making that ghost route much more regular as the main line is so busy now. Things come and go!

  • @NSLikeableHuman
    @NSLikeableHuman6 жыл бұрын

    For some reason, the occasional ghost train (or ghost replacement bus line) doesn’t sound that terrible compared to an undeveloped public transportation system like a large country I know. Also, those 94 passengers enjoyed the calm ride.

  • @yahyalaouici9749

    @yahyalaouici9749

    6 жыл бұрын

    i am curious about ''a large country I know''????

  • @silverboltscrapper

    @silverboltscrapper

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yahyalaouici9749 The United States

  • @fuckcanadafuckyoutubefuckc4596

    @fuckcanadafuckyoutubefuckc4596

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@silverboltscrapperor canada, which has the largest city in the world with 0 intercity rail service (Calgary), plus a rail service only once a week anywhere west of Toronto. In fact, canada's via rail makes Amtrak look like Japanese high speed rail. And yet, canadians dare say that they have any wOrLd ClAsS tRaNsIt.

  • @SonySMRTLim
    @SonySMRTLim6 жыл бұрын

    Do a collab with Tom Scott please.

  • @aidenjohnson2895

    @aidenjohnson2895

    6 жыл бұрын

    That would be amzing!

  • @Thammarith

    @Thammarith

    6 жыл бұрын

    and Geoff Marshall, and Jay Foreman

  • @SonySMRTLim

    @SonySMRTLim

    6 жыл бұрын

    Is it weird that Tom literally just uploaded a video.

  • @pintpullinggeek

    @pintpullinggeek

    6 жыл бұрын

    With their shared love of transport Geoff Marshall would be a better fit.

  • @1224chrisng

    @1224chrisng

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Lim Ming Quan Citation Needed ?

  • @anorwichfan
    @anorwichfan6 жыл бұрын

    The Chiltern railway route also serves as a good backup when there is disruption to the ordinary line. The normal Marlybone to HW train is often very full with constant trains, but trains have been diverted in cases of track problems. This is rare and does cause a lot of disruption however. I have gotten one of these trains before.

  • @mikenash7049
    @mikenash70495 жыл бұрын

    I used the Stockport to Stalybridge line a lot in the '80s when travelling between home (Stockport) and university (York) - the service ran once an hour in both directions then. And it's pronounced "STAY-lee-bridge".

  • @KasabianFan44

    @KasabianFan44

    5 жыл бұрын

    He said it right the first time lol

  • @pendolinofan643

    @pendolinofan643

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ha I know Stockport train station like the back of my hand

  • @trueriver1950
    @trueriver19506 жыл бұрын

    many of the 144 passengers are train spotters riding what we call the "Parliament" train. Most (including me) only do this the once. I arrived at the station a few minutes before the train. Busy day: two people already there. One does not look like a train spotter so I ask if he is a regular passenger. "Most weeks yes" he says, I shop on Friday get the train out and the bus back" This one old guy on his own counts for about 1/3rd of the footfall at this station! "So why not every week?" I ask. "Well if I am running late and miss it its a bit of a wait for the next one" --- Incidentally "Stalybridge" is pronounced Stay lee bridge - Brits from Gtr Manchester will briefly cringe when we hear you mangle the name. There are

  • @Cjnw

    @Cjnw

    5 жыл бұрын

    Manchester - *normie SJW cunts* :P

  • @mittfh

    @mittfh

    5 жыл бұрын

    During the year this video was published, many of the Parliamentary trains picked up two extra passengers: Geoff Marshall and Vicki Pipe, in their quest to visit All The Stations (2,563) in the UK...

  • @tomkenning5482

    @tomkenning5482

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Cjnw Manchester - Capital of the North

  • @dannypeck96

    @dannypeck96

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@tomkenning5482 you misspelled hull there

  • @te1327

    @te1327

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Cjnw oh how you are so wrong

  • @Don_Amo
    @Don_Amo6 жыл бұрын

    Could probably use it for Fake Train.

  • @GeorgeOnYT-

    @GeorgeOnYT-

    6 жыл бұрын

    The perfect comment.

  • @Zanzubaa

    @Zanzubaa

    6 жыл бұрын

    Or Fake Train Driving Instructor.

  • @oryagoda

    @oryagoda

    6 жыл бұрын

    Best comment

  • @DonCarlosDonCarlos

    @DonCarlosDonCarlos

    6 жыл бұрын

    I thought it said Fuck Train

  • @zioxei

    @zioxei

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was just thinking of getting on the train and doing whatever sick things I want

  • @DJenerate
    @DJenerate6 жыл бұрын

    Psst, you used the old Northern logo, and London Midland didn't exist in 2004 either! ;)

  • @Sophiebryson510

    @Sophiebryson510

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nfinity they don’t on the Birmingham to London Euston line

  • @pathowgate2544

    @pathowgate2544

    4 жыл бұрын

    Silverlink my man

  • @MattyTowcester

    @MattyTowcester

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@pathowgate2544 central trains

  • @danellis-jones1591
    @danellis-jones15914 жыл бұрын

    They provide a public service, so they need to go through a stringent process to close a route. They signed up, they provide. If they don't they can bugger off. They should be forced to provide a service, not ghost trains.

  • @PolishAviationStaffordshire
    @PolishAviationStaffordshire6 жыл бұрын

    I have to say I've been very disappointed in the quality of this video, and am sad to say many of the 'facts' given are either partly or completely false as a strong user of the rail network of the UK, someone who also reads much about it and spends time discussing this with other rail-friends of mine. I'll start with the Barlaston issue. Firstly, Barlaston is around 30 miles SOUTH of Stockport, not North (I know this as a local to the area), and London Midland definitely don't serve 30 miles further north, in fact serving an area bordered by Liverpool/Crewe/Stoke-On-Trent/Tamworth/Nuneaton/Bedford/St Albans/London Euston/Stratford-upon-avon/Hereford/Shrewsbury. Secondly, the station has not been included on the ORR statistics in over 10 years, which is used to 'technically' class whether a station is open or closed within the UK, so really it is closed. D&G buses operate a service which serves the railway station, but this is a bus route, and not a rail replacement in practical terms. Also, London Midland has not served the station with a replacement bus since 2004, because London Midland as a franchise operator did not come into existence until December 2007, the previous operator was Central Trains, who were the company to stop serving the station in 2004. Now, the High Wycombe service is not necessarily operated from Paddington to keep the station open, but also to keep drivers informed of the route. This is because if there is any disruption at Marylebone Station, drivers know the route down to Paddington, if the operator decides to continue running services. I thought this was a vital part which has been missed out, because with out it, it can sway the whole franchising for and against argument. I feel bad for putting such a long comment on here and seeming to go on a rant. I'm more than happy to help amend some of the myths around our railways if anyone would like to discuss this further. I wish you the best as well with this, but I am strongly against inaccuratacy of our railways, especially when it's so close to home. Best Wishes

  • @dylreesYT

    @dylreesYT

    6 жыл бұрын

    PolishAviation Staffordshire LOL, you're so passionate 😝 Some people have commented talking about a "parliamentary line" I'm surprised you didn't mention that phrase just explained it. So many people think that it's just the government being wasteful but it's really important- as you said. Now talk to me on Snapchat so we can argue 😂

  • @DavidFrankal

    @DavidFrankal

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ok ok he made a typo with the north/south thing and yes it was Central Trains at the time, but other than that, his (though somewhat simplified) explanation is spot on.

  • @dylreesYT

    @dylreesYT

    6 жыл бұрын

    Uh oh, you're in for a factual fight now m8 😂 This guy has grown up learning all about trains so I'd get your counter-argument sources ready 😅

  • @fetchstixRHD

    @fetchstixRHD

    6 жыл бұрын

    Most of the bits that aren’t well explained I can let go, but you’re definitely right about the route knowledge part.

  • @MrDannyDetail

    @MrDannyDetail

    6 жыл бұрын

    Seems like 'inaccuratacy' was even closer to home than you realised.

  • @zacrosamond3128
    @zacrosamond31286 жыл бұрын

    If anyone has "have sex on a moving public train" on their bucket list, looks like the Pad to High Wycombe service is the one to go for! Side note - at least Chiltern Railways doesn't cancel every other service... looking at you, Southern

  • @EinChris75

    @EinChris75

    6 жыл бұрын

    Don't tell me, they don't have CCTV on the trains. Would be a big surprise.

  • @musicalneptunian

    @musicalneptunian

    6 жыл бұрын

    The bucket list of sex on a train will be ticked off. 9 months later... A kid is born. He is named Ghost Train.

  • @zacrosamond3128

    @zacrosamond3128

    6 жыл бұрын

    EinChris75 true... But if no one sees you, no one reports you, no one checks the CCTV, you're good to go!

  • @zacrosamond3128

    @zacrosamond3128

    6 жыл бұрын

    Musical Neptunian just wanna call my kids that now!

  • @tommyh4116

    @tommyh4116

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's not fun though when no one is watching

  • @airplaneplustrainguy8143
    @airplaneplustrainguy81436 жыл бұрын

    How to close a railway route in the Philippines!!! Basically. Just build houses on the tracks or use the PNR right of way for road infrastructure.

  • @SiVlog1989
    @SiVlog19896 жыл бұрын

    If you look up Geofftech, he recorded, albeit from trackside, the parliamentary service to Newhaven Marine Station. The station was "temporarily closed for repairs" in 2006. However, whilst the station itself has since become permanently closed, a train still arrives about 8pm and leaves about 8:15pm as an ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) movement to maintain the legal fiction of a service

  • @Terrr05
    @Terrr056 жыл бұрын

    I live in High Wycombe. Time to catch a Ghost Train!

  • @youlikejazz7844

    @youlikejazz7844

    6 жыл бұрын

    Terry lol me 2

  • @allysuke

    @allysuke

    6 жыл бұрын

    was actually named britains shittiest town. legit. look it up XD

  • @hadawaco

    @hadawaco

    6 жыл бұрын

    can you get a return?

  • @Patrick-lf3of

    @Patrick-lf3of

    6 жыл бұрын

    Same mate. Wycombe is shit

  • @eddiephillips3403

    @eddiephillips3403

    6 жыл бұрын

    Zeshan Ali mate you are probably linked to India someway so shut the fuck

  • @Thammarith
    @Thammarith6 жыл бұрын

    He pronounces 'Marylebone' right!

  • @MidtownSkyport

    @MidtownSkyport

    6 жыл бұрын

    and pronounces Stalybridge right, but then a few seconds later gets it wrong :)

  • @halfasinteresting

    @halfasinteresting

    6 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't want standards too high. Then you guys would start expecting quality from me.

  • @advleon

    @advleon

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was so happy seeing my local Chiltern Rail in a video :D

  • @Snagprophet

    @Snagprophet

    6 жыл бұрын

    Would be cool to hear you pronounce Birmingham as "Birming-um" in your accent. That's how we say it here.

  • @NewcastleFlyer

    @NewcastleFlyer

    6 жыл бұрын

    Half as Interesting Your videos are always up to high standards and this must be up there with some of your best videos

  • @SOSOwner
    @SOSOwner5 жыл бұрын

    VTEC No-longer operates the East Coast route. It's now operated by LNER.

  • @PottersVideos2

    @PottersVideos2

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think that back then it was operated by VTEC.

  • @jasonoreilly6204

    @jasonoreilly6204

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@PottersVideos2 I didn't know Honda supplied train engines lol

  • @davidty2006

    @davidty2006

    3 жыл бұрын

    LNER is the government run company.

  • @StrathpefferJunction
    @StrathpefferJunction5 жыл бұрын

    The Scottish Government awards contracts for Scotrail, not the UK Government.

  • @user-uh3df6xb7l
    @user-uh3df6xb7l6 жыл бұрын

    YAY finally something UK related!

  • @tezer2d

    @tezer2d

    6 жыл бұрын

    Does it matter what country it is related to

  • 6 жыл бұрын

    Renji Khan I don't know what country you're from but I'm guessing the majority of your countrymen would rather you didn't have access to a keyboard.

  • @anonb4632
    @anonb46326 жыл бұрын

    The USA is in no position to lecture anyone about public transport.

  • @blackhatter011

    @blackhatter011

    6 жыл бұрын

    And you are in no position to lecture anyone about public transport.

  • @anonb4632

    @anonb4632

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, Sure Actually, yes I am. I have used it on five continents and so can compare and contrast the systems.

  • @blackhatter011

    @blackhatter011

    6 жыл бұрын

    Just because you've sat on a train does not mean you can build one.

  • @anonb4632

    @anonb4632

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, Sure It doesn't. And I've never said such a thing. That's your straw man.

  • @blackhatter011

    @blackhatter011

    6 жыл бұрын

    Okay Walter Mitty, whatever you say.

  • @JarrodBaniqued
    @JarrodBaniqued5 жыл бұрын

    Who’s watching this after the Paddington-High Wycombe closure last Friday?

  • @Sophiebryson510

    @Sophiebryson510

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jarrod Baniqued ooh 😮 it closed?

  • @pryn.darkstorm

    @pryn.darkstorm

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Sophiebryson510 HS2 will go through Paddington so the train now goes to West Ealing instead kzread.info/dash/bejne/ommumq-Baai6dpM.html

  • @PottersVideos2

    @PottersVideos2

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me.

  • @psyste4708
    @psyste47083 жыл бұрын

    The Stockport to Stalybridge service has been increased since making this video. The train now returns to Stockport, a whole 2 services PW now.👍. A campaign is ongoing for regular services to Manchester Victoria but the line is more likely to be converted in to MetroLink (Greater Manchester trams)

  • @MK-ex4pb
    @MK-ex4pb6 жыл бұрын

    Temporary as 13 years LMAO

  • @foolguy6

    @foolguy6

    6 жыл бұрын

    Michael King london midland has only had the franchise for 10 years so they didn't start that

  • @MagicKillerClub

    @MagicKillerClub

    6 жыл бұрын

    13 years is correct; Central Trains were the operator between 1997 and 2007 when London Midland won the franchise. It was closed in 2004 when the West Coast Mainline was being modernised but never reopened. I live fairly close to Barlaston station, there's an ongoing battle to have that station (and nearby Wedgwood station which is also served by the same bus) reopened. The infrastructure is all there, and the villages are growing in population. It's a very strange situation.

  • @WASIURPA

    @WASIURPA

    6 жыл бұрын

    Its the *temporary* train

  • @Possiblyqiqi

    @Possiblyqiqi

    6 жыл бұрын

    I just hope that the new franchise would start running trains there

  • @randolphclarke4674

    @randolphclarke4674

    6 жыл бұрын

    Andy Wright the new franchise is considering re opening barlaston or Wedgwood

  • @firetruck1255
    @firetruck12556 жыл бұрын

    Good old Northern Rail 🤣🤣 did you know that they are called ‘sheds on wheels’ by at least the Manchester and hull based staff for TPE (Transpenine Express)

  • @tenaciousdean6179

    @tenaciousdean6179

    6 жыл бұрын

    I remember getting a train from Preston towards Blackpool.. It was like one of those old school busses except there were also chavs drinking Fosters and it stunk of piss, and I thought Arriva Trains Wales was bad.

  • @damianhockey8890
    @damianhockey88904 жыл бұрын

    So I'm actually from Manchester and have done the stockport to Stalybridge. its now a route which has become so infamous that rail enthusiasts like myself take the service. Just to say you have done the service. And is actually becoming so busy that Northern had to change what day and time they ran that particular service to stop so many people using it and making it a viable route again. An excellent video.

  • @jrgboy
    @jrgboy5 жыл бұрын

    We had loads of line closures in the early 60's here in the UK, the Beeching report was based on the economics of stations NOT on the need so most of Wales & the Southwest lost all their lines , many have been restored since, back then it was thought that motor transport would be the future so the government built hundreds more roads & cut back on rail investment..

  • @olly5764
    @olly57646 жыл бұрын

    The Chiltern route into Paddington has more than just convenience as its reason to be kept open. On occasions Marylebone station may be closed, and Chiltern trains may have to operate into Paddington instead, by operating one train a day, all of Chiltern's London based drivers can (Just about) maintain their route knowlege into and out of Paddington, meaning they don't have to hire in drivers from elsewhere to operate diverted trains, or lay on alternative transport into the crowded area of London

  • @JimBowen1

    @JimBowen1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ahh, that answers what I was wondering.

  • @Rockcake7

    @Rockcake7

    6 жыл бұрын

    MARMALADE! 😂🐻

  • @tobysummers471

    @tobysummers471

    6 жыл бұрын

    It is the old new north main line into Paddington from South Ruislip. The line used to be used to go to Birmingham. Seen in the btf film let’s go to Birmingham 1962 it’s the same line. Nowadays a single line. The central line replaced it and the west coast main line

  • @slwootwootuk4271

    @slwootwootuk4271

    6 жыл бұрын

    Also High Wycombe isn't exactly a small place in the middle of nowhere, much like the majority of towns and villages served by Chiltern. It's a large enough commuter town to London to have this service once a week in addition to its service to Marylebone

  • @tobysummers471

    @tobysummers471

    6 жыл бұрын

    SLwootwootUK not exactly far away from me. It’s. bus ride. I’m from Uxbridge

  • @lukemilner9787
    @lukemilner97876 жыл бұрын

    I believe they're called parliamentary trains

  • @ssephi

    @ssephi

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes they are. There is a one way service from Liverpool to Hull once a week at like 05:40 on a Thursday which fulfils the requirement.

  • @iamellie1175

    @iamellie1175

    6 жыл бұрын

    yes they are

  • @requen
    @requen5 жыл бұрын

    This closure process seems simple and easy! ...compared to being elected mayor of the city of London.

  • @jonistan9268
    @jonistan92683 жыл бұрын

    The last Chiltern train from Paddington ran on the 9th of December 2018 because the curve of track between Paddington and South Ruislip was closed. The parliamentary service now starts in South Ruislip but instead of going to Paddington, it runs down to West Ealing and then back up again to High Wycombe.

  • @daniolah5608
    @daniolah56086 жыл бұрын

    _Half as interesting? More like Twice as Interesting...._

  • @junkang5546

    @junkang5546

    6 жыл бұрын

    Dani Oláh *Triple as Interesting

  • @timvaas

    @timvaas

    6 жыл бұрын

    Have to 100% agree

  • @praveengundalaRdy

    @praveengundalaRdy

    6 жыл бұрын

    Too interesting by half

  • @Thomas-vn6cr

    @Thomas-vn6cr

    6 жыл бұрын

    Twice as banterous.

  • @builderdex

    @builderdex

    6 жыл бұрын

    Half as interesting as something 4 times as interesting.

  • @stargawper
    @stargawper6 жыл бұрын

    These trains are run to maintain to maintain drivers Route Knowledge as Paddington id the diversion for Marylebone.

  • @martenkats6915

    @martenkats6915

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yep, that's completely ignored here. Many railway operators want to keep these routes available to them, simply to have alternatives in case of incidents / engineering work at their main route. The reason why this route is run daily and not the absolute minimum of once a week is to ensure drivers have route knowledge so they can instantly head for the diversion if ever needed.

  • @PottersVideos2
    @PottersVideos25 жыл бұрын

    2:55 Incorrect. It's a route retention service in addition to fulfilling that obligation. They have to keep that line open just in case Marylebone becomes unusable. Therefore they would not want to close that line!

  • @saraha180
    @saraha1806 жыл бұрын

    The steps you described for closure are reasonable, and the amount to the basic process used for almost all governance. You put together an impact statement, notify the public of a proposed action, allow for public input during a comment period, and hand off the decision to the governing body. This same process is followed for most government actions-including changing your name or incorporating a business. The impact statement is just swapped out for other documentation. (Go look in any local paper and you'll see a "legal notices" section full of various people, partnerships and corporations following exactly these steps for various reasons.) Is the notion that 35 pages is too much reading to do? This is about the amount of reading I remember doing each week prior to setting up a lab experiment in physics or chemistry at university. Is it unreasonable that the government asks you to put together a document explaining how closing a rail line would affect the passengers, nearby roads and the other rail lines? If there's really only one person per week riding that line, I would expect it would be very easy to write up that impact statement. The real reason these lines are still there is not because it's too hard to read a 35-page document or write an impact statement. The real reason is because of government *policy,* not the basic processes of civil governance.

  • @stevewright8992

    @stevewright8992

    6 жыл бұрын

    I am a member of the roundabout appreciation society (in case you believed you are the most boring person in the UK)

  • @saraha180

    @saraha180

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Steve Wright If the opposite of "boring" is "profoundly ignorant of basic civics," I'll take "boring" with honor. This video makes its viewers dumber.

  • @rjfaber1991

    @rjfaber1991

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Sarah - You're not wrong in saying it's actually pretty easy to fulfill most of these steps, but whether it's cheap is another issue; I reckon the costs of those newspaper ads add up to more than just a handful of Sterling, and I wouldn't be in the slightest surprised if the ORR charged a significant fee for their revision process as well. At that rate, it's just cheaper to make one of the daily trains terminate at London Paddington rather than London Marylebone, because there's very little extra cost involved in that.

  • @ferko28

    @ferko28

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm with Sarah here, this video felt like a "look uk bad uk has strict laws and its train service is regulated by the state so uk bad" propaganda, the whole process is sound and logical.

  • @Mac_an_Mheiriceanaigh

    @Mac_an_Mheiriceanaigh

    6 жыл бұрын

    Robert is right. The inhibition is not that it is unreasonable to do paperwork, the inhibition is that it is expensive. Submitting paperwork like this is very expensive. And you will be required, also, to make financial investments to compensate for the negative effects of the closure on people, the environment, etc.. Even if there is only one person riding, you are required to finance or provide an alternative route, or offset the carbon footprint of that person driving, or if there is a station closing, you have to compensate nearby businesses for the decrease of foot traffic, pay environmental experts to evaluate the safety and impact of the unused rails and/or station on wildlife, etc.. It isn't unreasonable, and nobody said it is. It is just not easy, and sometimes not worth it.

  • @barvdw
    @barvdw6 жыл бұрын

    There are some good reasons why these trains exist, even with one train a week, it keeps a line open and train drivers acquainted with it, for when it's needed as a diversionary route, because of engineering or some kind of problem on the mainline. The Chiltern train in the video allows for Chiltern to have their drivers know the route to Paddington if for one or another reason Marylebone is unreachable. I'm sure this would be a profitable route, as Paddington has better Underground connections, but it's almost impossible to get extra slots into Paddington, especially during rush hour, when such a service would be most welcome. So better not get passengers get their hopes up with a slightly better token service...

  • @korcommander

    @korcommander

    6 жыл бұрын

    barvdw it probably be more efficient just to build a real.highway

  • @barvdw

    @barvdw

    6 жыл бұрын

    A highway into a city with no more room to accomodate more cars? A 6-lane highway compared to a double-track railway? I'll assume you're trolling.

  • @iamellie1175

    @iamellie1175

    6 жыл бұрын

    yer this is important, i used to live in a village where a small amount of people would use the train but it was important for me to get to school....i wouldhave to have been driven to the nearest town which would be longwinded.......i dont think americans fully understand how even so close to london in like kent for example (where i used to live) there are some villages that have no buses or really good links and if ur car breaks down the railways (that are there becaue they are old and used to be used) are the only way to get to services in a town

  • @Abshenonas

    @Abshenonas

    6 жыл бұрын

    Do you think that maybe with Crossrail, there will be more room at Paddington on the main line platforms? Why not divert all the Chiltern Mainline services along the New North Main Line into London Paddington?

  • @korcommander

    @korcommander

    6 жыл бұрын

    barvdw no more room to accommodate cars? Really?

  • @RealUlrichLeland
    @RealUlrichLeland6 жыл бұрын

    Do a video on Shippea hill. They're the least used station in Britain, just one stop north of me. I think about a dozen people used it in 2016, but for 2017 it went up to around 140 because lots of people went for a joke, me included. The thing is, there is nothing there, just one house and some farms. Also it's called shippea hill, but it's so flat in my area that it's literally below sea level. There is also a 'hotel' that's got a one star rating nearby, it's literally just some ports cabins

  • @dylreesYT

    @dylreesYT

    6 жыл бұрын

    dorgesh That sounds hilarious 😂😂

  • @DavidFrankal

    @DavidFrankal

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ironically, the station recieved so much publicity this year for being the least used station in the UK that many people went to visit it, and therefore it's now only the 14th!

  • @airplaneplustrainguy8143

    @airplaneplustrainguy8143

    6 жыл бұрын

    David Frankal yay I see too many British, train fan here that I subbed A video that all of us can meet

  • @TheUKNutter

    @TheUKNutter

    6 жыл бұрын

    dorgesh This is a great video idea.

  • @shaferkam3907

    @shaferkam3907

    6 жыл бұрын

    dorgesh you must have come from All The Stations I assume. Go check out their channel if you haven’t seen it yet.

  • @AI-tc8fv
    @AI-tc8fv4 жыл бұрын

    3:05 I live in Stockport, about 3 mins away from the track here, I hear it maybe once in a good month

  • @danreptonmusic5693
    @danreptonmusic56935 жыл бұрын

    The way you pronounced Birmingham makes me want to die

  • @rfldss89
    @rfldss896 жыл бұрын

    "on this day there was only one [passenger]" hmmm I wonder who that might have been ;)

  • @OlanKenny

    @OlanKenny

    6 жыл бұрын

    Rafael Dos Santos probably Geoff Marshall

  • @irones17

    @irones17

    6 жыл бұрын

    No, it's the cameraman.

  • @TheUKNutter

    @TheUKNutter

    6 жыл бұрын

    Rafael Dos Santos I was thinking... the guard

  • @dj94545gaming
    @dj94545gaming6 жыл бұрын

    Yes something UK based

  • @Whiggism
    @Whiggism5 жыл бұрын

    Well on Sunday 9th December 2018 this route will see its last due to the HS2 and Crossrail projects.

  • @nathanaelsadgrove
    @nathanaelsadgrove3 жыл бұрын

    Loves how he gets the pronunciation of Stalybridge right first time then screws it up second. 😂

  • @XPTV233
    @XPTV2336 жыл бұрын

    There is another parliamentary train n the UK that's worse than 1 per year. The Chester to Liverpool via Runcorn... 1 train per year...

  • @tenaciousdean6179

    @tenaciousdean6179

    6 жыл бұрын

    Why would you go from Chester to Liverpool via Runcorn anyway though? Much faster and easier to use Merseyrail surely

  • @TCX757Pilot

    @TCX757Pilot

    6 жыл бұрын

    It is once a week, operated through the Summer. There is, however, currently work underway to re-signal the curve to allow operation in both directions, in order to provide an hourly service post-December 2018.

  • @recklessroges

    @recklessroges

    6 жыл бұрын

    Does the train provide complementary larger and flakies?

  • @liamkehoe5957

    @liamkehoe5957

    6 жыл бұрын

    Spot on it takes like 35 mins from Chester to Liverpool

  • @ejcmoorhouse

    @ejcmoorhouse

    6 жыл бұрын

    The line is known as the Halton Curve and it was a summer only service once a day on a Saturday one way. The upgrade work to bring in an hourly service means redoubling the track, an increase in services on top of the hourly one is expect as demand grows.

  • @Witherd02
    @Witherd026 жыл бұрын

    my local train company is scotrail and when there is a delay Scotland stops

  • @Alexmarr14Blogspot

    @Alexmarr14Blogspot

    6 жыл бұрын

    Preach, Dundee - Aberdeen line always has delays!

  • @Witherd02

    @Witherd02

    6 жыл бұрын

    Alex Marr and inverclyde, ayrshire-stranraer

  • @afalz4062

    @afalz4062

    6 жыл бұрын

    "We are sorry to announce" should be ScotRail's motto

  • @CharlieFlemingOriginal
    @CharlieFlemingOriginal5 жыл бұрын

    It is supposed to be expensive and difficult to close a station in the UK. The "Beeching Axe" closed huge pieces of the railway on a study done over just a few months! So lines that looked unprofitable for six months were hugely popular for the other six. Many lines have reopened or in the process of being reopend or campaigned to be reopened. The short sighted way that many lines were closed and land sold off has caused so many problems today with traffic on roads and congestion and over-crowding on the railways.

  • @monsterfurby
    @monsterfurby6 жыл бұрын

    Of all the squarespace influencer endorsements I've seen, this one had to be the highest-effort one. Kudos.

  • @MrMake615
    @MrMake6156 жыл бұрын

    The chiltern route is run for driver training purposes, not for the sake of running it

  • @dakat5131

    @dakat5131

    6 жыл бұрын

    well if they have to use it,better to use it for training than to put experienced drivers on an unwanted(by the company) route.

  • @Muzer0

    @Muzer0

    6 жыл бұрын

    If it weren't for the requirement though they could run the trains as empties (not passenger services) and so cancel them when it suits them. But since it's a requirement to run a passenger service, they can't.

  • @MrMake615

    @MrMake615

    6 жыл бұрын

    Da Kat it is done SOLELY for driver training

  • @MrMake615

    @MrMake615

    6 жыл бұрын

    Muzer0 What's the point in running the route without passengers?

  • @Muzer0

    @Muzer0

    6 жыл бұрын

    Many operators do run similar routes without passengers, for routes that get other (normal) passenger services by other operators. For instance, most of the CrossCountry driver/guard training routes are done without passengers - except of course when they're needed. It allows you to be more operationally-flexible, as I said. If all of your drivers are trained on that route, you can just not run the train that day and nobody gets upset. You save money as a result. This train is run for two reasons - one because they are required to, and they're required to because the line is officially open as a passenger line and so needs to have a passenger train running over it. The other reason it runs is, as you say, for driver training.

  • @sleepycat985
    @sleepycat9856 жыл бұрын

    Ahm they obviously go to hogwarts. duhhh....

  • @cineva3044

    @cineva3044

    6 жыл бұрын

    sleepycat ikr duuh...

  • @idontknowwhatnametouse.mp4788

    @idontknowwhatnametouse.mp4788

    6 жыл бұрын

    100th like

  • @AntoineRed

    @AntoineRed

    6 жыл бұрын

    But Hogwarts isn't in Scotland?

  • @swatip

    @swatip

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Whovian Reviewer We muggles don’t know where it is

  • @Someone-cd7yi

    @Someone-cd7yi

    6 жыл бұрын

    Swatip Dahal How do we know it exists then?

  • @trashonatrain6362
    @trashonatrain63625 жыл бұрын

    The Amshacks suck, but most of the long distance services are in a tight spot due to our country’s geography and railroad organization. I also want to point out that it’s kinda cheap to make jabs at trains like the Southwest Chief and The Empire Builder and completely ignore the NEC and other Corridor services which are much better

  • @jameswhite8612
    @jameswhite86126 жыл бұрын

    You the old northern rail logo that was scrapped when serco and abellio lost the franchise in 2015 it is now operated by arriva and is called northern railway. Also it's not called London midland any more as the franchise ended and the new franchise was renamed west Midland railway in 2017

  • @ACE3CGL
    @ACE3CGL6 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, any (major) railway should have a legal or compliance office that would deal with matters like this. The 35-page document and flowchart you sarcastically mentioned as "super user friendly" didn't seem difficult at all, and this is coming from someone with a bit of experience in compliance. 35-pages is nothing for an entire compliance department that, theoretically, would prioritize this. I'm not gonna say it doesn't look annoying, but it certainly isn't difficult.

  • @rhoeasie

    @rhoeasie

    6 жыл бұрын

    Exactly and it's not like closing a line should be easy, even if it's not profitable. What happens to the people who live there and perhaps use the train to commute? What impact does that have to the town? For example a town where I used to live has a train to London and a lot of people commute. There have been threats of closing that connection, for whatever reason. The closure of that rail link would kill the town completely.

  • @daneclark3161

    @daneclark3161

    6 жыл бұрын

    Vaputi - And? Is there any particular reason that that town should "live"?

  • @benrgrogan

    @benrgrogan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Because if it "dies" you create a town that gets left behind. You could get high unemployment of those left behind, increased congestion, increased crime, reduced life chances and you'd further inflate the (already huge) price of housing in other towns along routes not closed down. There is a reason most Governments are willing to subsidise unprofitable public transport. There is often a social/economic benefit far bigger than the loss made from an unprofitable route. I'm sure the threat to close down the route was merely the train company seeking subsidy from the government

  • @xenobladefan7440

    @xenobladefan7440

    6 жыл бұрын

    Closing a line should be difficult! If we were at the whim of private profit seeking companies turning on and off services like a tap the country would grind to a halt.

  • @daneclark3161

    @daneclark3161

    6 жыл бұрын

    Capitalism is such a terrible thing...

  • @ethanlamoureux5306
    @ethanlamoureux53066 жыл бұрын

    If we had such a process to protect public services where I live (Michigan, USA), then just maybe we would still have rail passenger service here. But there is no such process here, and when the railroads decided it was too much of a bother, they just shut down their passenger service everywhere and decided to focus on freight only. But then with no familiarity with rail service, and everybody being forced to drive, people forgot about freight rail too, and it began to suffer from neglect as we started spending billions on highways and trucks, cars and busses. Today, you can’t even get a train to many of the places rail passenger service used to go, because the tracks have been torn up. I live on the wrong side of a 96-mile gap in the rails, left by the shortsightedness of the railroad companies and the government. And so long as railroads are seen as a private industry which can only operate while making a decent profit, I will likely continue to be stuck driving hundreds of miles to get to the rest of my state, along with the rest of my neighbors in the central Great Lakes region. I don’t think there is much reason to complain about “trains to nowhere” in the UK, especially since the system protects vital services which might not always be so profitable or efficient, but are necessary, even if just for a few people most of the time.

  • @BoKotianLund

    @BoKotianLund

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ethan Lamoureux kind of the same that happens on these "ghost trains". As their are no frequency and badly maintained stations, people can't rely on these routes and will find other solutions for their transport needs

  • @barryb.benson3496

    @barryb.benson3496

    6 жыл бұрын

    Michigan has buses though.

  • @ethanlamoureux5306

    @ethanlamoureux5306

    6 жыл бұрын

    @Barry B. Benson The buses are slower than cars, which are already too slow. A trip which takes me 4 hours by car, by bus takes nearly 8 hours. And the bus has to run on roads which in the summer are jammed with traffic, and in the winter can be extremely treacherous from ice and snow, and still have too much traffic.

  • @Walkman100

    @Walkman100

    6 жыл бұрын

    Are trains seen as a private industry all over the US? in South Africa all trains & railroads are national, which means that local governments can't decide how much money gets put into local trains, which means since the national government doesn't really care they are in a much worse state than they could be...

  • @thetechoasis2179

    @thetechoasis2179

    6 жыл бұрын

    i agree, there is literally hundreds and hundreds of trains stopping in most big town/cities in the uk, i live in a small town of around 25,000 and the train station is always busy sometimes with 2-3 hundred people in the 3 terminal station.

  • @ThatMcFlyFan
    @ThatMcFlyFan6 жыл бұрын

    It’s so funny hearing you describe Chiltern Railways so specifically, because growing up it was all I knew ... even now I rarely devolve from Chiltern, Cross Country and Great Western!

  • @moonFinance
    @moonFinance6 жыл бұрын

    Holy.. that squarespace transition was smooth af.

  • @AlaskaSkidood
    @AlaskaSkidood6 жыл бұрын

    Again, with the transitions. Keep up the great work!

  • @the180crew
    @the180crew6 жыл бұрын

    Scotland’s train service only has two extremes. Really good, and REALLY bad. Seriously. I’ve gone weeks with literally no delays on trains to and from Glasgow, whereas other weeks I’ve waited sometimes up to thirty minutes for a delayed train.

  • @apocynum

    @apocynum

    6 жыл бұрын

    Up to thirty... up to... oh lord save me. Thirty MINUTES for a delayed train. *cries in American*

  • @AndrewTaylorNintyuk

    @AndrewTaylorNintyuk

    6 жыл бұрын

    mann down south theres been days where trains that run hourly have had 2 trains cancelled leaving a 3 hour wait

  • @the180crew

    @the180crew

    6 жыл бұрын

    Andrew Taylor aw man that sound hellish. All of the UK needs to get grip with its damn public transport. Make it more reliable and give the workers a proper pay rise. Fortunately all of Scotland (or the majority of it) is operated by one company so it’s sometimes coordinated a TINY bit better.

  • @hamishashcroftplaysminecra6262

    @hamishashcroftplaysminecra6262

    6 жыл бұрын

    meanwhile, in Japan a railway company apologised to all customers after being 20 SECONDS EARLY!

  • @princeofchetarria5375

    @princeofchetarria5375

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lmfao half an hour is not that long. There's usually a good reason for those kinds of delays

  • @olliepoplol5894
    @olliepoplol58945 жыл бұрын

    That’s definitely more than just half an interesting as whatever I was watching previous to this. Cool stuff!

  • @simonwest9450
    @simonwest94506 жыл бұрын

    Since May 2018, Stockport-Stalybridge now has two trains a week (once each way) on Saturdays.

  • @leavemealone4904
    @leavemealone49046 жыл бұрын

    Opening a line takes time to make it viable as people have found other ways. Just takes time and good management to make it worthwhile, and the buffet car at a reasonable price. which is one of the major advantages

  • @belmarduk
    @belmarduk6 жыл бұрын

    lmao the point of a public train service is to get the public from place to place, if a private company wants to franchise a public rail they need to accept that what they're doing is a service to the public, and it is not supposed to be inherently profitable. if people live near that station then the rail line needs to exist. that's how a lot of people in the UK get around. taking away access might mean depriving elderly or disabled people living in rural and remote areas, the most vulnerable people in the country. the minor impact to profits that running unprofitable lines has on the bottom line is more than made up for on the profitable routes and the impact that running a complete rail system has overall on the economy. there is absolutely no reason to not run those lines in a humane and just society.

  • @cameronlee4869

    @cameronlee4869

    6 жыл бұрын

    Even if nobody uses them? Even if they only run every week, one way, or perhaps only every 13 years? They may as well be closed. It's got nothing to do with a humane and just society.

  • @Mac_an_Mheiriceanaigh

    @Mac_an_Mheiriceanaigh

    6 жыл бұрын

    If it isn't profitable, then no one will want to franchise. If no one franchises, there will be no train service. Because the government does not wish to run it itself or it already would.

  • @G5rry

    @G5rry

    6 жыл бұрын

    An individual route may not be profitable, but the entire franchise would still be profitable. To accept the franchise, you need to accept the non-profitable routes as well because it's a public service.

  • @PottersVideos2

    @PottersVideos2

    6 жыл бұрын

    +doofus mcwoofus In all fairness trains were diverted away from Barlaston in 2003 due to works carried out by Network Rail not because of a decision made by Central Trains. London Midland decided not to run trains to that station after the works were completed by Network Rail in 2008.

  • @agent_605

    @agent_605

    5 жыл бұрын

    Most of these lines are either redundant because of others close by or simply don't have anywhere near the demand to keep operating. Barlaston closed as the new fast services couldn't stop there without holding up everywhere else. Stockport-Stalybridge and chiltern to Paddington is pointless as both have other lines close by that are of higher standard and capacity

  • @LRexx
    @LRexx4 жыл бұрын

    I am starting to get this feeling that Brilliant, Skillshare, and Squarespace literally own this channel

  • @RiZinStorms
    @RiZinStorms3 жыл бұрын

    I know this was posted forever ago but I was born in high wycombe and have worked on that exact train line and seeing this video explaining it exactly how it is made me smile

  • @Mishona17
    @Mishona176 жыл бұрын

    Haha it feels bizarre to hear your little town mentioned in a series you love :D Can confirm the Reddish South station is more than deserted.

  • @dugroz

    @dugroz

    6 жыл бұрын

    That looked like a big concrete slab and nothing more. Is there an actual employee there?

  • @Claaxon

    @Claaxon

    6 жыл бұрын

    dugroz No, the majority of UK rail stations are unmanned. Only big ones have any staff

  • @Mishona17

    @Mishona17

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's exactly what it is, like Claaxon said below we've got a lot of unmaned very small stations around.

  • @timothyhilditch

    @timothyhilditch

    6 жыл бұрын

    I agree, I live in Stockport. See you around :P

  • @Scott-py1sd

    @Scott-py1sd

    6 жыл бұрын

    Timothy Hilditch reddish south is my local station 🤣🤣

  • @vortigauntsteve49
    @vortigauntsteve496 жыл бұрын

    Where's the Easter egg involving planes

  • @Quellification

    @Quellification

    6 жыл бұрын

    0:51 Heathrow = Airport, what's in an airport? PLANES!!

  • @Zenith_95
    @Zenith_955 жыл бұрын

    The Chiltern Paddington train doesn't exist anymore. *nudge nudge*. It goes from South Ruislip to West Ealing then to High Wycombe now.

  • @toukyoumasters3494

    @toukyoumasters3494

    5 жыл бұрын

    Isn't SR an underground station?

  • @Zenith_95

    @Zenith_95

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@toukyoumasters3494 Underground and National Rail.

  • @seprishere
    @seprishere6 жыл бұрын

    Actually a once daily service is probably convenient for Chiltern because it means their drivers keep their route knowledge to Paddington. So if ever the normal route into Marylebone isn't usable for any reason (e.g. the ubiquitous engineering works, or some incident) they can still run to Paddington.

  • @PGATProductions

    @PGATProductions

    Жыл бұрын

    c2c do the same thing by having some empty services running to liverpool street

  • @davec8473
    @davec84736 жыл бұрын

    Yay UK stuff!

  • @xpmule

    @xpmule

    6 жыл бұрын

    In my town in Canada i see city bus's going around with no one on them regularly and even been the only guy on them before a bunch of times. I also seen a few news stories where the Greyhound Bus company is asking the govt to cut routes because they go to places even when no one is on the damn bus. SO this type of this is not too unusual.

  • @domzbu

    @domzbu

    6 жыл бұрын

    Try riding some of our trains after dark, especially to the rougher parts of London. Enjoy!

  • @georgebritten2111

    @georgebritten2111

    6 жыл бұрын

    Please be more pesimistic when talking about the UK, we find optimism fearful.

  • @domzbu

    @domzbu

    6 жыл бұрын

    George Britten let’s drown the UK in raw sewage! It will be great I tell ya!

  • @kaustubh_kp
    @kaustubh_kp6 жыл бұрын

    I like this channel

  • @Palestina.non.grata86
    @Palestina.non.grata864 жыл бұрын

    Every Saturday morning, I see the Stockport-Stalybridge train pass the freight yards close to my block of flats. Our area is surrounded by lines/stations which are barely used, or abandoned lines such as the Woodhead line.

  • @GamingRobioto
    @GamingRobioto5 жыл бұрын

    I did work experience on Chiltern Railways back in 2003 as my Dad used to work for them. I did the ticket checking with the guard (for the 4 passengers on the train) and got to go in the cab with the driver which was awesome as I've always loved trains. Then we got to Paddington, grabbed a quick coffee and then back off the Wycombe. That was a great week, I got to do a bit of everything, train dispatching, announcements at Marylebone, working the ticket office, handing out fines at the barriers. Great week that.