If they went with the original concept of Asha & Starboy going up against a villain couple, we could’ve seen the power of love be used for both good *and* evil. That would have been absolutely incredible.

@AraneaTempestatibus

4 ай бұрын

For many, the only thing their brain can do is think that romance would have resolved the story when in reality there was more potential. That it had been pleasing to the public would not make it good, only enjoyable...that, yes, it would have been better but not enough.

@alphabloodpaw3233

4 ай бұрын

stop reminding me or I'm gonna cry

@andrewsanusi8462

4 ай бұрын

Nah this just makes me more depressed, we were robbed so bad.

@Man_Of_Logic

4 ай бұрын

Then both of the couples sing a song about their version of love in a dual sequence 🧐

@maruchan.sabor.cotufa3847

4 ай бұрын

@@Man_Of_Logic Stop torturing us dang jeez

"This is the thanks I get?" Nah, more like "This is the Disney 100th anniversary we get?"

@kirbthebean

3 ай бұрын

Precisely

@Chibi_Venus

3 ай бұрын

we all know that deep down in our hearts, once upon a studio is the true 100th anniversary celebration

@reilmen3896

2 ай бұрын

Nahh just imagining rn that Disney is like "this is the thanks i get?" after looking at the criticism lmao

@der_saftmon

28 күн бұрын

"And this is the film we get?"

@thepotassiumqueen2137

18 күн бұрын

This is the movie we get? Do do do do do do do do do do do do

I live in Japan where people are obseeeeeessed with Disney, and I remember with Moana hearing How Far I'll go constantly, the Shakira Zootopia song, Into the Unknown, you could not escape them. I have heard the This Wish song a grand total of once when out In public. The Wish soundtrack is not evening vibing with the most Disney obsessed country.

@MrOpMan343

3 ай бұрын

I didn’t even realize the movie was released in theaters it was that underrated!

@ChimeraLotietheBunny

3 ай бұрын

Yeah

@mr3rr0r15

2 ай бұрын

And that's SAYING something

@user-pc8sv2vl5f

2 ай бұрын

For Zootopia 2, I NEED SHAKIRA TO RETURN AS THE VA OF GAZELLE 👹

@maravreloaded

3 күн бұрын

I mean. Tezuka the god of manga was a Disney fanboy.

DISCLAIMER: I have not seen the movie, have not listened to the songs, haven't looked up the lyrics, know NOTHING of this film aside from videos on youtube- that were mostly derogatory. BUT: one thing I think that everyone when talking about this movie is missing, is that Asha doesn't appear to have her OWN wish - she spends the movie wanting her GRANDFATHER's wish to be granted and trying to make that come true. that's great on one level but the "I want" song is called the **I** want song for a reason. being selfless and trying to grant the wishes of others is wonderful, but even a modest wish is still a wish. she wants to grant her grandfather's wish? WHY does she want to grant that wish? what is it about her grandfather's wish that makes it important to HER, not just that "it's not fair" that it hasn't been granted. if it doesn't express HER wish, HER wants, HER dreams, can it really be called a "I WANT" song at all?

@froggnt8621

4 ай бұрын

exactly, she's such an underdeveloped character that we don't even know her OWN wish. they could argue that her wish is the selfless "i want everyone to have their wishes granted" but we already know she's a good person from the storyline and her characterisation. when that's ALL we know about her it gets stale fast...

@thema1998

3 ай бұрын

I never realized that until now. Oh wow! 🤯

@frankwest5388

3 ай бұрын

@@froggnt8621 Wanting everyone’s wishes granted is a nothing wish. Sure it sounds nice and selfless but it tells you nothing about the person in a meaningful way. It sounds like what someone wishes for, if they want people to think they are a good person. Which tells me that they character either has no real personality or knows that what they wish for is so socially unacceptable, that even saying it out loud gets them into trouble

@Simbala-bq5vy

3 ай бұрын

@@frankwest5388 well that means that the person or character already has everything. The character is nice and selfless so she wants that everyone gets it's wish. What does Asha need at this point? She has everything she need. The only thing she wants is that her grandpa gets his wish

@frankwest5388

3 ай бұрын

@@Simbala-bq5vy Like I said that sounds nice but in actuality is just shallow and means nothing, because everyone has something that they want. Saying that you just want others to be happy is what one says to sound like a good person not be one Now Asha could want her grandfathers wish to come true as a form of repayment to him for raising her or doing good to things she cares about, which is a more personal reason to help someone

To be honest, it sounded more like an AI wrote these lyrics.

@Kenny-bu4uv

4 ай бұрын

They can’t tell me AI didn’t write “This is the thanks I get “ smh

@NinthShinigami

4 ай бұрын

@@Kenny-bu4uv we’ve unfortunately reached an era where the sentence “it’s no prob” is a lyric in a Disney song 💀💀💀 Scuttlebutt was an even worser sin 😂

@Kenny-bu4uv

4 ай бұрын

@@NinthShinigami awww what’s weird is , I actually liked Scuttlebutt . You can tell it was just for fun , idk why everyone hates it so much lol . But these songs in Wish gave me such a migraine.

@scootermcpeanuts6699

4 ай бұрын

@@Kenny-bu4uv Scuttlebutt was annoying in my opinion but it at least felt like a person made it. I can’t really say the same for a lot of the wish songs, which really do feel at least somewhat like ChatGPT’s handiwork.

@Angninjin22

4 ай бұрын

I'm not into music theory but I still think they used some AI to write the songs because they feel without soul and without any thought almost the same as an AI or Chatgp would write

I don’t understand why Disney didn’t have a Broadway style musical for Wish. I feel that this is what they were going for, but it kind of backfired

@blueflare3848

4 ай бұрын

It felt like they were trying to be Lin-Manuel Miranda, but they lacked the understanding of why his songs work.

@princessnicki63

4 ай бұрын

⁠@@blueflare3848Lin’s writing wouldn’t have even worked for this movie either 😭 They needed someone like Alan Menken or a Danny Elfman

@TimoteoDeBaum

4 ай бұрын

Music is a huge component. Movie did not feel epic enough or have much stakes for us to care. Howard Ashman was a needle in a haystack in terms of musical genius and making it be harmonious with the animation

Hazbin Hotel has better Disney music than actual Disney movies lol

@lilac3266

4 ай бұрын

funny part is hazbin hotel has not 1 but 2 Disney voice actors in the main cast💀

@user-xg9ok2sp6l

3 ай бұрын

Glad to know I am not the only one who thinks that.

@WobblesandBean

2 ай бұрын

And that's saying something cuz the music in Hazbin is really not that good.

@kirin1230

Ай бұрын

@@WobblesandBeanSpeak for yourself

@sakurasaku2251

Ай бұрын

​@@WobblesandBean i agree. I was cringing myself to death when the songs came

Magnifico says in the song that his genes are from outer space. I was hoping that would be explored more. Maybe he was supposed to be the same alien race as Starboy. What this movie could have been is so much more interesting than how it turned out.

@deliciouskromer4578

4 ай бұрын

I think it is meant to be a joke

@LadyDragonbane

3 ай бұрын

​​@@deliciouskromer4578I thought so too originally, but with that other song saying everyone's a star it seems like outer space DNA is an actual thing in that world

@bemiatto67

3 ай бұрын

Supposedly, that lyric was a holdover from a previous draft where Magnifico himself was a fallen star

@LadyDragonbane

3 ай бұрын

@@bemiatto67 Really? I wasn't expecting the "could've been" of this movie to cut even deeper than it already was ... 🙁

@WobblesandBean

2 ай бұрын

​@@bemiatto67 Wait, where did it say that? I've never heard that.

disney is a multimillion dollar company who has worked with Lin-Manuel Miranda previously. if you want your music to sound like Lin-Manuel Miranda wrote it, GET LIN-MANUEL MIRANDA TO WRITE IT!

@Iotuseater

4 ай бұрын

*multiBILLION theres no way they couldn’t afford him another time he must have been busy how else do you blunder the music for your 100th anniversary SO BAD

@Iotuseater

4 ай бұрын

*multiBILLION theres no way they couldn’t afford him another time he must have been busy how else do you blunder the music for your 100th anniversary SO BAD

@deliciouskromer4578

4 ай бұрын

I don’t think working with him again will work, we’ve seen him too much at this point and his music is starting to get very annoying with what we were presented in Little Mermaid remake, I think he’s just not trying anymore

@_thE_lEttEr_E_

4 ай бұрын

Well, he was working on Percy Jackson when this move was made/coming out

@WobblesandBean

2 ай бұрын

​@@deliciouskromer4578 Agreed. Frankly, I think his work is mid. He had some good songs but I just don't like his style. Disney needs to go back to the classic OG musical theater writers that sound like Ashman and Menkin.

Alan Menken has touched many people with his beautiful melodies. He was a great composer who has created many classic Disney songs and won eight Academy Awards, 11 Grammy Awards, and a Tony Award in 2012. ``The Little Mermaid,'' ``Aladdin,'' ``Beauty and the Beast,'' ``Hercules,'' ``Rapunzel,'' and ``The Hunchback of Notre Dame'' were all really interesting. In comparison, ``Wish'' was a crapshoot that didn't deserve to be a Disney 100th anniversary movie.

@Mialikesthings

4 ай бұрын

It’s a shame that he kind of messed up with The Little Mermaid remake though the same is with LMM. His works in Hunchback of Notre Dame was his best though.

@lainiwakura1776

4 ай бұрын

@@Mialikesthings I doubt he wanted to touch the music, but since Disney added new songs, they probably told him to work on them.

@moon7shinev150

4 ай бұрын

He even came back for Tangled the Series.

@EndieGLITCH

4 ай бұрын

Alan Menken is still alive lol😭

@Mialikesthings

4 ай бұрын

@@lainiwakura1776 Same with LMM because right after the movie came out he announced to taking a break.

The problem with Wish is the lyrics. It's like they tried to make as many words to rhyme as possible and say, yeah this is good. And the audience says, no, no it is not. The songs don't flow well into the next beat and they are so discouraging to what Disney has brought to the table. The Family Madrigal is a good example of a town/family intro song. We get to know the characters that we will see in the movie, even if they don't have many lines, and we learn about that they can do. I bet almost all of you who saw the movie can name everyone in the Family Madrigal. The welcome song for Wish which I don't know the name to, doesn't do that. It tells us the story of Magnifico but that's it. I listened to You're A Star on KZread shorts and I was cringing at every second. What the heck were those lyrics?! Also, The duet between the King and Asha sounds like a song you would play at a wedding. Lyrics play a huge role in music. It doesn't matter if you get someone who is good at singing. It doesn't matter if you have a good beat. If the lyrics are bad or don't make sense then everything will fall apart. The lyrics for Wish are a jumbled mess that try to resemble Lin's style and have the kind of music the writers are use to. Also, hiring pop artists to make a DISNEY MOVIE SOUNDTRACK, WHY? They are KNOWN for their musicals. Can someone tell me how the heck Encanto and Wish are from the same company?! I feel that the executives had such a strict hand on this movie. The Wishing Star was going to a shape-shifter love interest for Asha. The King AND Queen were going to be an evil couple. (Man, we need an evil couple song, that would rule over Spotify), and Asha was going to be their daughter! It was also going to be fully 2D animated!? So many missed opportunities with this movie and it will be forgotten once it's out of theaters. (It's already only in about 400 theaters at the time of this comment with it make less than $50000 in theaters, adding on, this is the estimated amount for today)

@lilac3266

4 ай бұрын

to add to this “the family madrigal” also provides the audience with new information as the prologue only tells you they got a miracle and the family has gifts. The song establishes each characters powers and their roles and relationship to mirabel. In wish the beginning already tells you everything they mention in “welcome to rosas” it feels like a rehash or just a song for the sake of it because narratively it doesn’t work. The audience already know about the kingdom and the king because the first scene is asha telling you this directly.

@fierygamer582

4 ай бұрын

@@lilac3266 yup! Thanks for adding on!

@polker8380

4 ай бұрын

Asha being their daughter would make a lot more sense than what we got. Someone like Magnifico would logically, never took an outsider as an apprentice for one of, if not the most important role in his country. Especially when the rules were "only he can use magic". The movie's plots does not make sense at all...

@redactedinfo8557

4 ай бұрын

would it count if I don't remember their names but I do remember their characters?

@Invisble748

4 ай бұрын

Yet reading the comments on the original Disney KZread, it seem like many people ignore the lyrics and love the songs cause it sounds nice. It’s like watching a movie with a bad story, but saying it’s good cause pretty pictures. Seriously I see read so many positive comments on Wish on Disney own KZread channel.

I’m just speaking for myself, but to me, Disney songs all tend to have some sort of rhythm or melody that makes the song memorable. I think the sequence playing as the song does makes it all the more memorable. The song must compliment the scene and the story. Sequences such as I’m Still Here, Strangers Like Me, Son of Man, A Whole New World, At Last I See The Light, Circle of Life, Beauty and The Beast, they’re all amazing Disney songs as they are memorable in their own right thru the lyrics and melody but simultaneously create a tone and serve the story and onscreen action beautifully. With Wish, none of this is found. This Wish doesn’t compliment the story. It’s an I want song, but what exactly is there to want? The film doesn’t make it very clear, if at all. The visuals don’t either. Compare it to Part of Your World or even How Far I’ll Go. This is The Thanks I Get? It’s not very memorable nor does it establish a tone the same way Claude Frollo’s song or Scar’s Be Prepared do. Not knocking on anyone that enjoys the film or the soundtrack, but not only do I think Wish is one of the weakest Disney films, it’s also one of the weaker and more forgettable Disney soundtracks in my honest opinion…

@blankaschejbalova1730

4 ай бұрын

Off topic but i'm so glad you're mentioning I'm Still Here. Treasure planet is such an underrated, amazing film and it sure deserves it's flowers. Also regarding the points you made, i completely agree

@NinthShinigami

4 ай бұрын

@@blankaschejbalova1730 actually it’s pretty on topic 😂 but I absolutely agree. It’s one of my favorite Disney movies ever, and I’m Still Here is probably my favorite Disney song personally

@pastelsheepy

4 ай бұрын

I adore treasure planet and enchanted too!!!

@andieallison6792

4 ай бұрын

"I'm Still Here"??

@rency1803

4 ай бұрын

The way Frollo sing "Like fire, Hellfire!" is engraved deep in my memory. Hellfire is still the best disney villain song to this day.

The best wish song is at all costs (demo) it sounds so romantic and beautiful like the older Disney love songs And the fanatics all look so beautiful. It doesn't really work with the official moment. Imagine Earendell (thats stars original name) and Asha Dancing in the stars singing together Hugging eachother and Asha getting a dress transformation while Valentino and the animals are watching them dancing in the sky full of stars And imagine a villain love song... Hell yeah that would been awesome. If Disney made these ideas Wish would probably been a masterpiece

@Prototype-357

4 ай бұрын

Was Star's original name really gonna be Earendell ? It sounds like Earendil from Lord of the Rings. Was that name among the original concept stuff that came out?

@The1Dragonprincess

4 ай бұрын

@@Prototype-357it was, it means the brightest star

@elias69420

4 ай бұрын

​@@Prototype-357it sounds like Arendelle, the kingdom from Frozen

@moon7shinev150

4 ай бұрын

Where did you get the name

@c.lineofficial

4 ай бұрын

Ashendell!!! 🎉 WAIT!! That sounds like the frozen kingdom’s name, so that could’ve been a nice callback!!

Considering the fact that they wanted to go back to their roots, the music shows none of that. I recently rewatched Sleeping Beauty and notice how heavily orchestrated it is. It’s beautiful. The emotions perfectly match the music and everything that happens. It’s beautifully done and is iconic. One of my favorite pieces from Fantasia is The Sorcerers Apprentice. It is so beautiful and impressive and I believe they could have done something like that here. Disney is so over-pop-ifying their soundtracks to a point where it doesn’t even make sense or fit the style. It feels empty and that not a lot of work was put in. I want the big sweeping orchestras back. Consider the overture from little mermaid, it is so magnificent and you can feel the story and mood in the music. They have lost that

@melaniegreene7249

3 ай бұрын

I definitely know that feeling. There is one traditional animated project I want to make at Disney Animation that would look closely in animation style and music to the older Disney animated films along with themes that has deeper meanings and emotional depth with the characters.

@LightBoltDash

3 ай бұрын

I feel this so hard. I honestly quiver a little bit and cant help but shed a tear every single time I listen to the bells of notre dame from Hunchback, especially when it goes full orchestral in the end and the dies irae chanting before. It's so magnificent. Where did all these orchestras go man?

@themartyflorence

3 ай бұрын

@@LightBoltDash Exactly, it is epic, big, and you just feel it all around you. Now it is lacking in the magic

@WobblesandBean

2 ай бұрын

That's why they hired a soulless pop song writer. They didn't care about making a GOOD movie. They just wanted to make a LUCRATIVE one.

@WobblesandBean

2 ай бұрын

​@@LightBoltDash I showed my fiance The Bells of Notre Dame for the first time the other day. He teared up on the final note. What happened? When did Disney stop caring? They were working on the live action Hunchback (shudder) but it's all but cancelled because Disney execs insisted on removing Hellfire due to the heavy implications.

Bring back the musical theater! The power, the orchestra, the clever lyrics

@Dora-xi5ob

4 ай бұрын

Encanto

I think everything goes back to one simple fact. Wish didn't know what it wanted to be. It was so busy trying to shove as many references in, it forgot it needed to have its own story. The conflict and the character motivations were weak because there was no guiding narrative driving their actions. Asha is the hero because she's the hero and Magnifico is the villains because he's the villain whether or not they fit the role. This bleeds into the songs. The songs don't work because the songs are meant to be the strongest feelings of the characters. If there isn't anything behind those feelings behind "this is my role" then the song falls flat. Disney needs to take a good long look at its creative processes because right now they are not very creative. When they have more creative ideas, and the characters, stories, and even songs will follow.

I actually kind of feel like Asha is the bad guy. And also because of the song. She literally riles up an angry mob against the king - not unlike how Gaston turns the people against the Beast. The trailer for the movie made the King look sympathetic to me, I'm like "Okay, why doesn't he grant everyones' dreams?' and the music? Uninspiring. Maybe this is Disney for Tik Tok by out of touch suits going "hey fellow kids"

@marley7868

4 ай бұрын

also he seems to be open with the terms he just caring to repeat them also he apparently only listens to one request per month but in his song he says granted 14 last year and the song seemingly as though it's a lie says "that's a good percent" over 100 is typically a good percent

'This is the Thanks I Get' could have been so good. That line of thinking could have made for such a fun and fantastic song for a villain, but it just didn't work. You go the way of the song coming from someone who's trying to gaslight you, insisting he's the good person when he's got ulterior motives, like Mother Gothel's 'Mother Knows Best' or an arrogant self absorbed song where he feels he's great and shouldn't be questioned, akin to Gaston's song, or even a tragic ballad of a man who feels he's given all he can just to be met with selfish people who think there's no reason why every wish can't be granted, and he alone bears the burden of having to decide, you could have had something like the absolutely wonderful 'Hellfire'. But it's like they try and mish mash them all together and it becomes tonally incoherent, just like Magnifico himself.

@tsukasa67

4 ай бұрын

One of my main problems with This is the Thanks I Get is the fact that it just isn't Magnifico who is singing it. Its like there are two Magnificos in the movie. One who is traumatized by his past and so desperate to prevent anyone from experiences that hurt ever again that he creates Rosas but goes to far in keeping peoples wishes from them, and another Magnifico who is a selfish, self absorbed narcissist who only does anything because he expects people to praise him and his amazingness for it. Its like they couldn't decide what kind of villain they wanted him to be and so changed everything up halfway through production. Exploring the first Magnifico and how holding onto trauma and fear can lead people down dark and terrible paths would have been great. Instead, we got what we got and everything you said applies. How terrible.

@80MWH

4 ай бұрын

Let alone the lyrics “I got these genes from outer space” feels so strange. Is it implying that he’s an alien, or is it supposed to mean in this world that it ties into that idea that “everyone os a star?”

@invadernav3422

4 ай бұрын

@@tsukasa67 It's not like we can't have villains who make good points, or villains can at least partially be in the right but just take it too far. I think it would have been a really engaging direction to take him, where Asha almost comes off as the one in the wrong and has to concede with the idea that not every wish can, or should, be granted. And likewise, Magnifico seeing his actions have gone and hurt the people he wanted so desperately to protect, and taking a step back to realize what he's done. It could have lead to him and Asha working together, sorcerer and apprentice, two points of view meeting in the middle to give the people they both love so much the best of both of them. It's truly a movie of missed potential in every aspect, and it's so disappointing to see.

@tsukasa67

4 ай бұрын

@@invadernav3422 Man, I totally get where you're coming from with all of that. In the movie, I actually really liked the sequence where at all costs is sung precisely because of what you mentioned. The duet gained a really powerful context for me because they were singing the exact same words but you could tell they were thinking almost completely different things and coming from different perspectives. OH how I wish they would have actually attempted to pull off something like what you said as its basically set up right there in the beginning of the movie!

@CompSomAnichi

3 ай бұрын

To think they kind of got it with that guy in Coco. Almost there but e

Besides the songs sounding like they were written by AI, can we talk about how unfittingly joyful Magnifico’s villain song is? In fact, idfk if you can even call it a villain song 💀

They should have gone with the story ideas that were in the art book, like how both the king and queen were going to be a villain couple and how the star was going to be a star boy.

@hammerr3

4 ай бұрын

I have no idea why they published that. Were they really proud that they scraped those ideas?? Cause everyone now thinks what they released was worse than those ideas

@KaeMcSpadden

4 ай бұрын

@@hammerr3 who knows? Could be an attempt to make merchandise money.

@hammerr3

4 ай бұрын

@@KaeMcSpadden I bet the shelves over at Disney parks must be full of Star plushies that no one is buying 😵

@KaeMcSpadden

4 ай бұрын

@@hammerr3 that is the problem I have with the star design they went with, it looks too much like a Luma from super Mario galaxy!

@tiamystic

4 ай бұрын

And the other character concepts for Asha with her curly hair, hazel eyes, and red dress!

The guy sings about not being appreciated after giving too much. In the movie you can see he's not appreciated after he gave too much. Not a villain, more of a hero. Pass.

@demothiguillermo2059

9 күн бұрын

And when he tries to inform the people of a potential threat to the kingdom, all they care about is getting their wishes, he should've gave them less

The lyrics feels like first drafts that were never revised. There are such obvious issues with rhyme and cadence that are easy to fix - that puts aside lack of traditional Disney orchestration and musical styles that give it a trademark sound. You always need variations and new ideas, but especially for the 100th anniversary to not build upon Disney’s style, high quality lyrics, etc. was disappointing. Finally, many of the melodies feel like they were simply cribbed off of prior Disney movies like Encanto and Frozen, rather than building upon them with new spirit and a new sound. You hear music from Encanto, Little Mermaid, Lion King, etc. and you immediately know what movie it’s from. For Wish, nah. BTW Michaels is an amazing songwriter, but it just sounds like the music and sound support staff just wasn’t there / didn’t have the time to build this right.

I haven't watched the movie, but I think the grandfather doesn't need to be biologically related to Asha. He could Just be an old man that adopted and raised her, therefore removing the whole thing about her father and her mother nobody remembers. Have a childhood sequence showings this, have the grandpa explain how the kingdom works to her and the audience, and telling her about his wish that still hasn't been granted. Asha wanting to have his wish granted would be motivated for her wanting to 'repay' him for everything he did for her. With this setup, and his wish being to inspire the next generation, in a way It is unevessary to have his wish granted because he already would have done so by inspiring Asha.

To me, the songs sounded like something that would have been #11 on the billboard hot 100 for 2 weeks in 2017, and then quietly disappeared forever.

@cupcakKe_express

3 ай бұрын

I'm a Katy Perry Stan and Julia Michael's song at the end literally sounds like one of Katy's songs. And it was from 2017 too 😂

IMO, I feel like there's a misconception about Disney and Pop music. The truth is that Disney's music has always been timely because Walt wanted his films to accel on all fronts and he had everything to prove to Hollywood about how animation could be a mainstream success. Ever since "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf ?" went viral in the early thirties, Walt saw the power of radio and that influenced the way he created music for his era of films. Snow White- Someday My Prince Will Come Charted and became a huge anthem for women of the Depression. Pinocchio- Cliff Edwards ( one of the big stars of his day) voiced Jimmney and sang When You Wish Upon a Star. Then for Cinderella, Walt literally hired pop songwriters from Tin-Pan Ally to make all the songs. Pop-coated songs aren't the issue, it's how well they're weaved into the story that makes difference

If anyone knew about how the “wish for stuff, and then you’ll forget it forever unless the King grants is” system works, everyone SHOULD wish for the most evil and malicious thing they can imagine. Because then they’d all forget about their evil and be good for the kingdom. But forcing everyone to forget their good wishes? What’s left of your people except their boring or evil desires? King really dropping the ball there

@DrawciaGleam02

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I've wondered about that aspect of the story. Is it possible to use the "forget your wish" aspect to stop a villain's scheme?

@WobblesandBean

2 ай бұрын

No, it makes complete sense. How many good wishes actually come true? Almost never. The "wish lottery" Magnifico does is an objectively better system. Say your wish is to be a celebrated actor. The odds of you achieving that are practically nil. But King Magnifico has a pretty good chance of granting it in your lifetime, with 12 guaranteed wishes granted a year. There's nothing harmful in wanting to be a great actor, so you have an even bigger chance that he will choose your wish.

The biggest thing that strikes me about wishes music is that they seem like they want to have the set up or a Broadway Musical inspired Disney song without putting in the effort. Almost every single song Disney has made had a narrative purpous to it even before the Little Mermaid when they based the songs off of broadway musicals. Disney songs usually do have exposition (i.e. The Bells of Notre Dame/Zero to Hero), set up plot points for later in the movie (Be prepared/ We Dont Talk about Bruno), or sometimes are in of themselves a plot point that could not be translated well through dialog alone (Poor Unfortunate Souls, Friends on the Other Side, Hakuna Matata, Let it Go, Go the Distance, need i continue?) These songs were made with enhancing the viewing experience first and being a great song on the radio second. Because these songs were most likely tailor made to be on the radio first, they are random pop songs that sound okay out of the context of the movie, but are so vague and redundent to the actual narrative of the movie, that it harms the viewing experience when it is not clear what Asha is refering to when she wants something more for the people of the town than "this".

I've heard 'This Wish' multiple times and I never remember the tune. There's so many lyrics where it feels like way too many words were squashed into a single line. It's especially weird when there are times when some words aren't even needed they just slot in for no reason. also not sure if this is just me but I feel like the vocals don't always match the emotion of the character like 'I'm past dippin my toes in' sounds weird to me, almost like a new singer in comparison to the power of the other lines

Wish is what happens when pop writers try to do musical theatre without any training for the switch of field

Want a better villain song? Sweet Tooth from Wonka. It's such a fun song and seductive in an evil way. Plus it's hilarious on top of it. Sweet Tooth is a better Disney villain SONG then an actual Disney villain song in the past decade lols.

@KarateGirl999

4 ай бұрын

Wonka's songs are so good.

@Dora-xi5ob

4 ай бұрын

Shiny is a villain song. And We Don’t Talk about Bruno is technically a villain song lol

@Vernydog92

3 ай бұрын

@@Dora-xi5ob I mean MAIN villains mostly. I do love Shiny and We Don't Talk About Bruno, but I wouldn't technically call it a villain song for OBVIOUS reasons.

My ranking of all 8 Wish songs: 8. I’m A Star 7. Welcome to Rosas 6. This Wish (Reprise) 5. Knowing What We Know Now 4. This Is The Thanks I Get?! 3. This Wish 2. At All Costs 1. A Wish Worth Making

This wishes reprieve, I honestly just headcannoned in the moment as Asha drew out the innate power of the people by singing out a few lyrics and magicing the rest into their heads, giving them the option to sing along if they so desired. Personally through, movie went way to slow in the beginning and gave such boringly little detail, yet it feels that as soon as Asha got back into the kingdom to get help from her friends to overthrow the king, I felt like I blinked and suddenly oh revolution song. *blink* Ok, why is Asha running from the 'Villian' in the forest. *blink* Wait, when did we get to the final confrontation?

Desney concept art: *looks like an interesting story and a movie worth watching* Disney:ew nah no Disney making this dissapointment: disney: IT LOOKS AMAZING .IT'S PERFECT ME:wtf Disney has been making a lot of poor choices lately...

What if they went with the Starboy thing and Villain couple route. Then Asha and Starboy + King and Queenie would have a scene where they would sing a song about their type of move in a dual sequence. IDK🙏💀

For a celebration like this was supposed to be, it would have been nice to have tracks that sounded like songs from different Disney eras, like maybe reference the Skeleton Dance or Fantasia or have a song or two that sound like the Sherman Brothers wrote them. Have some Broadway sounding songs or some Elton John and Phil Collins style songs.

@CinnamonGrrlErin1

4 ай бұрын

Actually they should have just begun with the songs first before even coming up with the rest of the movie, like how Nightmare Before Xmas was written. Make the songs the heart of the movie and they'll carry the rest of it.

a problem I’ve had from when the first song was released and that problem only became more prevalent throughout the soundtrack is the lyrics. More specifically the spacing of the lyrics. It feels like every song is trying to cram as much into one like as possible for some reason. Even the actors you can hear them struggle to keep up with this awful pacing of the lyrics. As a result the lines sound clunky and don’t flow well. The songs never get the chance to breathe. Fast paced lyrics aren’t bad, lin manuel is well known for this but he doesn’t cram the lyrics. I have no idea why the writers on wish decided on trying the fast paced lyrics on every song but it just made the listening experience a headache personally

@deliciouskromer4578

4 ай бұрын

so true, fast songs can work, but the pacing of the opening song is just so weird. Like how in the chorus for a line they stop a beat and then sing rosas, why??? It is so weird for no reason, it’s almost like Asha forgets the name of the country half way into the line, and the end of the song this annoying line repeated again, which makes even less sense, since they were clearly trying to build up to a grand finale but that stop and that weird drop just makes it jarring, they could’ve ended with a higher long note and that would’ve been good

@lilac3266

4 ай бұрын

@@deliciouskromer4578 the fact the whole song was unnecessary too because she’s just repeating what she said in the opening scene💀

@Dora-xi5ob

4 ай бұрын

That’s my main issue with these songs. I won’t deny that some of them are catchy and do a good job making you FEEL what you’re supposed to feel (for example, Knowing What I Know Now makes me feel rebellious, This Wish makes me feel motivated), but what brings them down HARD are the lyrics

Been thinking about the 'don't even charge rent' allegedly-AI lyric- if they removed the 'and' it would almost completely fix the statement. It would sound like an exasperated reaffirmation. "I let you live here for free- I don't even charge you *rent!*" The 'and' is completely pointless.

@idaowens6237

3 ай бұрын

It would have had a better flow, too. The "and" feels like a verbal stumble. I saw someone suggest "I let you you live /carefree/, and I don't even charge you rent". They had options. They went with the worst choice.

That animation of Wish is starlight out of the uncanny valley

The concept art of this movie is literally what I dream about animating or writing music for. It’s so disheartening

I love watching At All Cost animatic videos of Asha and StarBoy on KZread😊 But I agree, that song was so out of place in the actual movie

I think that the fact that the Wish songs were written by a pop artist/writer didn’t hit the same way Broadway made Disney songs :C

OK I asked GPT4 to write a song “about making a wish come true” in the style of “a popular animated movie.” (I think I’ll make a video on this!) Here’s what it came up with: \ (Verse 1) In the heart of the night, under starlight so bright, A whisper in the wind, a wish takes flight. Dreams that dance in the moon's gentle glow, Yearning for a place where anything can grow. (Chorus) Make a wish, close your eyes, see it clear, In a world where magic's near. Believe with all your heart, let it shine through, And watch your wish, your wish come true. (Verse 2) Through the forests of hope, where the mystical elope, A journey begins with a leap of faith's rope. Over mountains of wonder, under skies of blue, Every step you take brings your wish closer to you. (Chorus) Make a wish, hold it dear, feel it's near, In a world where dreams appear. With a spark of courage, bright and true, Your wish, your wish will come to you. (Bridge) In the quiet of your heart, where dreams start, Every wish is a work of art. Through the tears, through the laughter, Chase your wish, happily ever after. (Chorus) Make a wish, let it soar, open the door, To a world of possibilities and more. With love as your guide, in all you do, Your wish, your wish will come true. (Outro) So make a wish, under the stars above, And believe in the power of love. In the magic of a dream made anew, Your wish, your wish will come true.

@Froggycolouring

4 ай бұрын

It really does sound like the songs from the movie This makes me think they actually made the songs at last second with ai…..

@elkealexandrina

4 ай бұрын

This shows that even AI.. AI out of all KNOWS how to make a better song than DISNEY themselves.. what a world we live in...😢😅

@spaacedust

4 ай бұрын

Dang this is beautiful. Even this sounds less ai than the wish songs 💀

@LadyDragonbane

3 ай бұрын

Get someone to record music for this and upload it to KZread

@enio9477

3 ай бұрын

People keep saying the songs were written by AI. What they don't know is, AI can actually make good songs with rhyme and meaning.

Disney’s legacy over the past thirty years has been built by musical theatre writers and musicals. And I legitimately do not understand why for your hundred year movie celebration you would hire people who do not understand how to write musicals for writing songs for said musical.

@Dora-xi5ob

4 ай бұрын

My guess is that the Encanto songs (which had a pop-esque feel to them) were so successful that they tried to copy its success

@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343

3 ай бұрын

@@Dora-xi5ob But those songs were written by someone with a background in musical theatre. The style of song is not the problem. It's the execution.

The lyrics of this soundtrack remind me of the meme “F*CK IT I’LL JUST USE BIG WORDS TO SOUND SMART”, although I am obsessed to listening to the demo “At All Cost” by Benjamin Rice, and Julia Michaels ,The only redeeming grace with all the songs in the soundtrack are the vocal performances.

I thought This Wish reprise would be played idk somewhere else. Magnifico is capturing star. She doesn't know what to do and leaves shes crying at a the well and idk want to jumo but then her friends are encouraging her. And during the refrain theyre riding towards the castle

Disney had a lot to live up to. The wishing star fairy tale is always the beginning of everything. DreamWorks already made a great movie in 2022 about the wishing star

I have not seen the movie, but from what I've heard, one of the main problems the lack of world building.

13:00 how did i not notice that dog in the background until just now? 🥰🐶

As for “A Dream Worth Making,” I feel it sounds like lukewarm “What Was I Made For.” At least that song in the Barbie movie, had a tinge of sincerity and focus that felt like it really tied into something a lot could latch onto.

I feel as if this movie was more of a protest movie; because the lyrics "I have genes from outer space" is from when the concept of the movie was him being a fallen star (one of), also at all costs sounds like a love song (and it WAS a love song), and sometimes you can hear it when little star is in the frame with Asha, meaning that indeed they were once a couple in the original version. The movie could've been sonething out of this world had Disney not medeedled into the creativity of their team. They wanted 2D but the executives said no, they wanted a love story bu mt they were told no, and so on and so forth. Looking at the movie as a protest movie it's actually brilliant and actually shows a new light though, but as it's own thing it is still kind of meh.

Hey man I really apreciate more emotion in your naration in this particular video,ur usually a lot more calm.Keep it up,it feels more investing this way.

The music in this movie sounds more like a Spotify playlist than an actual score for musical theatre.

i listened to the songs of wish they come off as rushed and mixed together and unlike the family madrigal and the other songs from encanto as mirabel becomes the next matriarch ofher family as soon as alma passes.

@viviennemorgan7217

4 ай бұрын

but we don't know nothing asha except that she wants to be magnifico's apprentice and that's questionable without a doubt.

Wait Star-Boy wouldve helped this movie SO MUCH

I just listened to a villain song called it's good to be king and man did it blow wishs villain song out of the water.

I watched the movie in a different language (I’m not English) and like.. it sounded better than the English version imo? They voice actors actually tried especially with magnifico. It didn’t make the song itself better but you know.. the writing and voices were slightly better

@Simbala-bq5vy

4 ай бұрын

Wich language?

@SunshineCo225

4 ай бұрын

To be honest a lot of the problems with the songs are poor lyrical phrases, where emphasis is placed in awkward ways that makes the singer sound like they're struggling. It does make a lot of sense that a rewrite in another language would iron out the problems and make it sound more natural

@xxcamelia

4 ай бұрын

Same! I watched it in french and I like almost all the songs (the This is the thanks I get doesn't work at all tho lmao)

@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8

4 ай бұрын

@@xxcamelia(that moment when your villain song is so horribly middling even changing it to another language can’t fix it)

@Coffeecat_24

4 ай бұрын

@@Simbala-bq5vy Dutch!

My issue is with how fast-paced everything is. There aren't any at least 3 seconds after an important scene in any movie nowadays to let viewers have a moment to think about what just happened.

Such a shame. If it's all about deadlines for the 100th anniversary, disney could have made a short film in the world of this story to promote the Full-length to come. It's like they needed more time and should have brought in more musical theatre writers like they have in the past. What a waste 🗑 😪

So many pop stars/songwriters to choose from. They should've just used Beyonce's "The Gift" soundtrack for an animated fantasy African film.

Honestly “knowing what I know now” almost made me leave the Theater and a bunch of other audience members as well cause it sounded so bad 😭 (Yes people were actually talking in the theatre 💀)

@IncorrectHB

4 ай бұрын

I can't even get through "Knowing What I Know Now" i hate it so much. 💀 Idk what it is about the instrumentals but 😮‍💨

@lismarie9011

4 ай бұрын

@@IncorrectHB and its not like the lyrics help whatsoever 😭

@LadyDragonbane

3 ай бұрын

I liked the music, but the lyrics didn't work

THE WONKA SONGS ARE BETTER THEN RECENT DISNEY💀💀

@JazeDalmatian

4 ай бұрын

FR!!

@Dora-xi5ob

4 ай бұрын

No. The Wonka songs are better than Wish

@RRRRRRAAAAAAA

4 ай бұрын

@@Dora-xi5ob I meant recent disney

@Dora-xi5ob

4 ай бұрын

@@RRRRRRAAAAAAA to be fair, one of Disney’s last original musicals (before Wish) was Encanto

This entire movie can be summed up by what magnífico say: To vague.

Well, you just gave me a revelation: The song in the climax should rather be a reprise of “You’re a Star”. Since all animals already know that, and the star is in their hearts as they sing, the population of Rosas can sing that song too. This is a better sign of being together as one as opposed to Magnifico’s narcissism and corruption to dark magic.

The part I love about the advertising is they play cherry-picked lyrics from songs... literally the only good lines in each song... and assuming nobody would question it. I'm just dumbfounded. They get so close to being good songs, but just shoot themselves in the foot with horrendous lyrics, or incohesivenss between what a song says versus what the film shows... or the song is literally the only window implying something is a certain way. These were nice songs for standalone stage-performances... but they most certainly are not musical-theater songs.

Hey, Aldone! Love your Disneyland sweater!

You know what might have been a good way to set up magnifico be shown as corrupt/evil without haveing him do an apparent 180? Have Asha learn about what someone's wish was before it was given away from like a diary that the person lost or something then have that person's wish be the one we see granted but show that it doesn't quite match what they actually wished for and has been manipulated to suite magnifico's kingdom. Essentially show that there is a ulterior motive to magnifico hoarding the wishes like maybe the more descriptive the wish the easier it is to alter hence why he won't grant the grandfathers vague wish cause he can't alter it enough to gurantee it will keep him in power. Or at least something to show that despite being so powerful he still feels limited giving him further reason to turn to dark magic for power.

funny how you expect Disney would go out in their 100th anniversary then gives us this utter dissapointment ☠️ seriously why didn't they stick with their original idea?! Asha being the actual princess to her villanous parents and having star boy as her love interest is not a good idea to them?!

Good voices. Nothing wrong with the voices. It’s just the lyrics that sound off. Should’ve just stuck with the concept.

The big issue with the final is that felt liek a Deux ex Machina. Suddenly singing is the way to defeat the all powerful villain. It's anti-climatic and disappointing. The saddest part is that with some changes the movie could be pretty good.

The entire movie doesn't work because Disney Corporate got comfortable with making checklists of what they THINK people want. The artistic side of Disney is the scapegoat at this point for criticism sadly.

Even Narratively speaking. It’s makes no sense. When you have a Soundtrack as hard as something like say Phil Collins Tarzan. It’s just perfect , the songs are great the story and feelings of the characters are portrayed through the songs and it all just works

All of us want a love story between Asha and starboy right??? 😢

I honestly hope that for future Disney Animated musical Disney would bring in Pasek and Paul and also have Robert Lopez and Kristin Anderson-Lopez to do more songwriting in their animated movies, with the latter not being just relegated to just the Frozen sequels (Frozen 3-4). Come to think of it it kind of perplexes me why Disney didn’t even bother having Pasek and Paul for one of their animated movie musicals?

@Dora-xi5ob

4 ай бұрын

Lin did great with Moana and Encanto

Normally when a movie or series or game or even comics, books, etc, the FIRST DRAFT and early concept ideas seems to be the weakest and get refine to become the better versions we see in the end product, maybe with a few exceptions, like 1 concept, 1 deleted scene, or song or unfinished animatics or just 1 or 2 concept arts look and be kinda cool and you ended been like...oh man they should have go with that one, but I understand why they left it....................Wish have to be the 1movie when literally all the concepts arts and scraped ideas are 10 times better than what we got instead..........what a colossal lack of foresight the producers and artist had on this movie or better the corporate intervention preventing this film to become an actual Disney Classic, seriously, I have seen now FANS gathering the songs with fanmade animatics of At ALL COST with STAR and ASHA singing, and my god, I love it, the song actually FITS, this song could have been a..........I SEE THE LIGHT from Tangled, A WHOLE NEW WORLD from Aladdin, a KISS THE GIRL from the little Mermaid, this is that kind of song, is not the best but could have work.....seriously who ever decided to make that love song into a duet with Asha and Magnifico....should get FIRED, that was a bad idea. I just sad this film wasted so many great concepts, Star as a shapeshifter humanoid boy and a love interest would have been so much interesting.....even the number A STAR could had been like a introductory song, kinda showing he is a bit full of himself and overconfident, like a DECLARATION of how awesome he things he is, and start a contrast between Asha and Star that will show them been different and little by little a good script would have made them closer and closer culminating in at ALL COST as a declaration of their love for each other...............jezzzz we could actually have a nice film.....a power couple villain and villainess duo, 2 megalomaniacs delicious villains instead of 1, man whyyyy??? I never felt more let down by a film, not angry just sad.

Calling this AI generated is an insult to AI

26:07: The Seven *DORKS*

I find the song i am star especially strange. Wish takes place in a medieval magical kingdom. Stars grant wishes and so on. Why do we have an astronomy lesson? We learn something about how stars are formed and photosynthesis and other science stuff. It felt out of place.

I see how all the people forget the critical thing: Asha doesn’t get ask Magnifico to grant all the wishes, she asks him to return those wishes he is not going to grant. Seriously.

@AtesSu2006.

19 күн бұрын

İt can cause problems like Jealousy among people

@2DeathComesSlowly1

19 күн бұрын

@@AtesSu2006. There will be jealous people always, pathetically struggling. Look at the good things you’ve got!

@AtesSu2006.

19 күн бұрын

@@2DeathComesSlowly1 you dont understand

@2DeathComesSlowly1

19 күн бұрын

@@AtesSu2006. No, you don’t understand.

@AtesSu2006.

18 күн бұрын

@@2DeathComesSlowly1 people will ask why they take it but not others. Use your brain

When I first head that the villain song was titled "This is the Thanks I Get?" I was like wow that sounds raw as hell I'm sure the song sounds great. And then I actually heard it......

@mangledfoxy2052

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, like.. If I could write songs, I’d write a Disney villan song with that title, as a “what it couldve been”

It would be so cool if Disney worked with Starkid to create a new animated musical.

@pastelsheepy

4 ай бұрын

naaah because Disney probably really hate Starkid after Twisted

just got 5 seconds in, and you sorta look like how i imagined, but like... if this was costume 2 or 3 of a fighting game.

Hot take: At all costs is the only song worth listening to. Not because it fits the story, but just in general. That song has the absolute best composition. It evokes the most feelings. It has the emotional beats. It is complicated in a way that sounds so simple. I love that song. But we all know it isn't necessary for the movie and should have been cut.

I don't have much knowledge of music other than one semester in university when I was studying animation (in a country which it's not much valued and looked down upon by government) one semester wasn't enough for me to be invested in creating music much and I really don't see myself much of a musician, even though I can play guitar and I only wanted to pass that semester and be done with it. remember in the time of exam, professor asked me, what kind of musical instruments I'll use if I was going to create a horror and creepy, villainous (you count)? my answer was, Drums or Tuba (I don't know how many or what instruments I said) and would eventually create a dramatic tone. now I don't know how much right or wrong my answer was, but the professor approved. Yet for some reason, Disney in Wish thinks such a music is suitable for hero song and a heroic revolution🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀

I hated Julia Michaels big song Issues and finding out she wrote the music totally checked out

@jadacampbell9331

3 ай бұрын

Maybe she was also brought on because she wrote the austin and ally theme song and was on the soundtrack for Ralph breaks the internet. Still, there are plenty of other writers disney could have asked

I totally forgot welcome to rosas was even in the movie by the time I left the theater. My kids forgot it too. It’s kind of useless to put all these songs in the movie if they are so forgettable nobody sings them later. Also magnifico doesn’t seem that old, what happens to the apprentices when he’s done with them? I care way more about that than any song in this movie.

me over here listening to "oo-de-lally" from robin hood for the 2 millionth time 😂

I got a great idea for a soundtrack, what if Alan Menken was in a Power Metal band like DragonForce? That's my idea

Agreed. Great breakdown🎉

Honestly, I’m just not gonna talk or think about Wish anymore. I don’t really have an opinion of it. I saw the movie, I’m not the biggest Disney fan, and everyone seems to hate it. Personally, it’s kinda forgettable like after 3 weeks I forgot it existed but I don’t hate it it’s just mediocre.

This just a nice analysis despite seeing All other criticism before

I just can’t believe they didn’t even care about their own 100th anniversary

I find it funny that Wish was originally gonna be a love story and we can fill in the blanks why Disney cut the love thing out

Wow, I thought the whole movie didn't work

I think that the This Wish (Reprise) scene would have worked, if they explained why at least the friends would know to sing it. Like maybe a small scene where the animals told them that "You Are a Star" or something. Cause the people who that they have the power inside them all along are the animals I guess and Asha, at that point no one else really.

Alan Menken, the guy behind the music for so many disney films (little mermaid, Aladdin, beauty and the beast, tangled) is still alive, they could have (should have) just hired him for this movie

I'm not a music expert either, but I know that the songs from any DTV sequel are catchier than this one.

Honestly the only good thing is the star character, cuz he/she is very cute, its Not a bad character design/concept.

Why are you still uploading content that makes me remember how mad I am about how generic this movie was lol

Not a single reviewer I've watched (and I've seen a lot) has talked about the lyrics that made me do a double take. "Here's a little fun allegory" "That gets me excited-tory" ????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Zira's villian song in the straight ro video sequel of the lion king: simbas pride, is much better than magnifico's song.

@KarateGirl999

4 ай бұрын

It's even titled "My Lullaby" and it still kicks serious ass.