Why The McLaren 650S is The Best Value Supercar On Sale

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Today I drive the fabulous McLaren 650S. Originally designed to sit alongside the 12C, it all but replaced it in a few months. Featuring a whole host of upgrades to everything from powertrain to infotainment, the 650 is the 12C but just better. Is it still worth buying, even with McLaren's reputation?
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  • @JayEmmOnCars
    @JayEmmOnCars2 жыл бұрын

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  • @tonijonjic5515

    @tonijonjic5515

    Жыл бұрын

    Can you please tell me if you could choose between 650 S and 570 S which would you choose? I really respect your opinion and I am in the market for one of them, so please give me advice.. I am from EU, enjoying your videos for some time now, so keep up the good work! 👍🏻

  • @JacobColvin
    @JacobColvin2 жыл бұрын

    Just traded my 600WHP Supra for a 650s. So much better. In every way. Except maybe sound. I’m sure upgrading the exhaust will help a bit though.

  • @huyra8019

    @huyra8019

    Жыл бұрын

    A mk4 or a mk5?

  • @TheG60528XiJinPing

    @TheG60528XiJinPing

    11 ай бұрын

    @@huyra8019 prob mk5 that's why no response

  • @SteveMiguel

    @SteveMiguel

    8 ай бұрын

    That's a huge upgrade in price

  • @-jedi-daddle8944

    @-jedi-daddle8944

    26 күн бұрын

    I’ve got a preview for you if you want…stage 2 straight piped 650s spyder, it’s worth it by the way trust me it can sound so much better

  • @markmawer
    @markmawer2 жыл бұрын

    As a future 650S owner, this is precisely the kind of video I don't want. Stop it please. More videos about 911s being the best option would be preferred. Thanks :)

  • @wei0951

    @wei0951

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same feeling here man. He just gave away such a nice secret.

  • @beauchamphuberville1355

    @beauchamphuberville1355

    2 жыл бұрын

    haha!

  • @weho_brian

    @weho_brian

    2 ай бұрын

    you already know that the 911 is the best pure sports car but you came here anyways

  • @markmawer

    @markmawer

    2 ай бұрын

    @@weho_brian Actually no. I think the Ariel Atom is the best pure sports car for the road and already have one of those. As it says in the title of the video, we're talking about supercars and the 650S is next on my shopping list. Or maybe a 12c :). We all seem to agree though that 911's aren't supercars.

  • @resnonverba137
    @resnonverba1372 жыл бұрын

    Lovely specification. If only McLaren could show they care about their customers after selling them a car, or about people who have bought a used one, they would help themselves with future sales. They have a seemingly short-sighted attitude.

  • @ashriqzan8762

    @ashriqzan8762

    2 жыл бұрын

    really? may i know what's the problem? sorry to ask... i thought they are good..

  • @resnonverba137

    @resnonverba137

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ashriqzan8762 Numerous reports of poor car preparation, lack of coordination and communication and apparently some bouncing from pillar to post. Porsche have many independent specialists, many well established and with excellent reputations. Ferrari have started a programme for used and older cars. McLaren need to get on top of this sooner rather than later as longer term benefits will well outweigh short-term costs.

  • @Tential1

    @Tential1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@resnonverba137 McLaren makes my favorite cars, I know some people find it to be the same boring design but I treated like a 911 where they just continuously iterate on something. It's my favorite Supercar, but everything you said is the exact reason why I would rather just get a Ferrari FF

  • @ashriqzan8762

    @ashriqzan8762

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@resnonverba137 I see.. thank you for sharing mate.. quite surprised to hear that.. in that case, i am so agreed with u.. they should learn from the other supercar companies.. thanks again mate..

  • @resnonverba137

    @resnonverba137

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ashriqzan8762 No problem, thank you for your refreshing good manners.

  • @DanKitchener
    @DanKitchener2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve driven 600LT and GT for extended periods ( 3 months ) and also had my 12C over 16 months now - and I have to say the 12C is a phenomenal car, I don’t agree regarding steering, it feels very similar to my Lotus Exige S2, very direct - also my 12C has a sports exhaust and it’s very loud, idles loudly and aggressively, sounds like a GT3 race car! Anyway great video, good to see you reviewing a `McLaren again and btw - your video about buying the 12C back last year made me buy mine ! :)

  • @SicSemperBeats

    @SicSemperBeats

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which is your favorite? Like all around

  • @Fee.1

    @Fee.1

    2 жыл бұрын

    What’s the cheapest one you can get into in the US?

  • @DanKitchener

    @DanKitchener

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SicSemperBeats 12c looks are far better, far sleeker and beautiful, 600lt looks like bits stuck on, the GT has an odd rear hind area, too chunky, odd design

  • @DanKitchener

    @DanKitchener

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Fee.1 12c no doubt

  • @1985gooz

    @1985gooz

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bang on my friend. Mine also has 300 cell cats with a catback and sound amazing.

  • @hexgraphica
    @hexgraphica2 жыл бұрын

    This rear end I love it. It's 1980s and Group C prototypes blended into the 2010s. The strakes are gorgeous, it was perfect but they ditched it for family feeling

  • @chrisliewtw
    @chrisliewtw2 жыл бұрын

    I have a 650s spider and I couldn’t have said it better. It’s really a brilliant daily driver. Spot on that you need to get this car with warranty. Thank you so much for the review… especially this: “ I am that guy who hates Mclaren and if I tell you to get one, it must be really that good “ 😅..

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Christopher, always glad when owners agree with my assessment - means I got it right!

  • @TheChill001

    @TheChill001

    2 жыл бұрын

    do you also go: "how's the turning circle...oh it's crap" xD just kidding mate, I do hope you genuinely enjoy the car, quirks and all

  • @MRVSKIN
    @MRVSKIN2 жыл бұрын

    I truly think the 650s the 675LT and P1 are the absolute sweet spot for

  • @ian7675
    @ian76752 жыл бұрын

    Checked the classifieds...nope, still can't afford one.

  • @jameswillard1
    @jameswillard12 жыл бұрын

    If this car drives as good with some miles on it as it did when it was new it has to still be amazing. I drove a 650 Spider several years ago as well as a 458 Spider and to be honest the Mclaren was so much better than the Ferrari it was embarrassing. James didn’t touch on this much in the video but the 650 has an absolute granite structure which is extraordinarily rare for any convertible and it made the Ferrari feel like a vintage car in comparison with its shocking amount of flex and shake. Also, the 650 steering had so much more feel, the power was night and day better, high speed stability felt much more planted. I know everyone thinks the 458 sounds amazing but I found the 650 sounded better and much more organic compared to the 458’s particularly when the Ferraris exhaust valves constantly open and close below 4-5k rpm. The only area the Ferrari had an advantage was I think the transmission was better but other than that Mclaren was hands down better driving experience.

  • @George-ur8ow

    @George-ur8ow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting review, thanks for this! Will reconsider thus McClaren, though still concerned about reliability...suppose Ferarri is no better there anyhow. I might have to stick with my 15' Turbo 911 in the meantime...but I am "getting the itch to switch"

  • @Mark-rt6fy

    @Mark-rt6fy

    2 жыл бұрын

    911 is always a keeper, I have a 991.2 turbo s, but I do get itches from time to time lol

  • @celtekrider2

    @celtekrider2

    11 ай бұрын

    I think the McLaren is very cheaply made vs Ferrari. The McLaren does drive better in my opinion, but the Ferrari feels better. I'm comparing the 488 Spider vs the 650S.

  • @projectr2451

    @projectr2451

    7 ай бұрын

    The McLaren should be better than the Ferrari. The 458 Italia is from 2009. The 650S is from 2014, and competes with the 2015 488 GTB.

  • @jameswillard1

    @jameswillard1

    7 ай бұрын

    @@projectr2451 the 650S was really just an update to the 12C, which was designed at the exact same time as the 458. The 458 was unveiled in late 2009 and the MP4 12C in 2010, and its the carbon tubbed construction and hydraulic steering that give it the real edge over the 458……both of which were on the 12C.

  • @JMcP231992
    @JMcP2319922 жыл бұрын

    I had the same idea! Picked one up about 5 weeks ago and haven't stopped grinning since! Huge amount of fun and performance for the money.

  • @jimalcock5132

    @jimalcock5132

    2 жыл бұрын

    Aren’t they great!!!

  • @Vinttro
    @Vinttro2 жыл бұрын

    Great video James. Simon has now sold his 650s. He said it was an amazing car too. All the best. ✌🏼

  • @randywatson2103
    @randywatson21032 жыл бұрын

    Cracking review,, unreal content mate keep it coming!

  • @smiconsulting8434
    @smiconsulting84342 жыл бұрын

    Just bought one and absolutely love it! Definitely way better bang for the buck than a Huracán and has the exotic doors that the Huracán doesn’t have!

  • @bikerman6907

    @bikerman6907

    Ай бұрын

    How is the inside space for us tall guys, 6ft6 I wonder, a C7 Corvette Z06 is way too small for me😏

  • @jeffallinson8089
    @jeffallinson80892 жыл бұрын

    Stunning good looks and that performance...Hell yes.

  • @kyleburman213
    @kyleburman2132 жыл бұрын

    Bang on, love my 650S Spyder, best car I've ever owned! 👌🏻

  • @Driven-Productions
    @Driven-Productions2 жыл бұрын

    Good review really like the spec on that car. Agree that seems like the sweet spot value wise especially these days. Find one with all the common maintenance work done and that would make a solid weekend warrior.

  • @STEVIEBHOY
    @STEVIEBHOY2 жыл бұрын

    Great intro music James 👍

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks2 жыл бұрын

    Very cool car. Nice video. Keep up the good work.

  • @brianiswrong
    @brianiswrong2 жыл бұрын

    White with red interior is a solid combo. 👍

  • @WestCoastSupercarsandClassics
    @WestCoastSupercarsandClassics2 жыл бұрын

    Nice review! I'm looking at one right now ;)

  • @andrews4713
    @andrews47132 жыл бұрын

    Good review JM. I'm really tempted by these and this looks look a nice one (except for the fit of the leather on the driver's seat, which looks a bit saggy).

  • @marcdavis2840
    @marcdavis28402 жыл бұрын

    That's a crackin looking car - looks lovely in white 👍 Would be on my short list. Congrats James a really good choice

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @jasonlewis3820
    @jasonlewis38202 жыл бұрын

    Great video i own a 650 spider and love it i have the MC upgraded exhaust 5K option and it sounds great. I`ve owned mine for 18 months and yes had a coolant leak and had to change the accumulator's on all 4 corners £250 a corner .....other then that it runs great and always putts a smile on you're face..

  • @Slayvoff

    @Slayvoff

    11 ай бұрын

    Do you know if the one he is test driving in the video has the upgraded exhaust or not? Maybe I missed it

  • @comeberza
    @comeberza2 жыл бұрын

    Very very good looking, sounds nice to me and I trust your word for it being very quick. I absolutely love how radical the 720 is but apparently it is very poorly build for a 300 grand

  • @jamesengland7461
    @jamesengland74612 жыл бұрын

    I have no other comment to offer except may the algorithm be always in your favor and oncoming traffic ever remain on their side of the line!

  • @NathanElcoate
    @NathanElcoate2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent review. Car sounds amazing.

  • @AntoniusTyas
    @AntoniusTyas2 жыл бұрын

    My goodness. I know McLaren don't make good-sounding V8 but the one in 12C, P1 and especially 650S is pretty fruity. Better than 570S, in my book. Doesn't quite have that crazy firecracker on every upshift like in 675LT but that's fine by me. I think they should have stayed with that unequal length header just like on the 720S GT3. And GT, surprisingly.

  • @drunkenpigeon2980

    @drunkenpigeon2980

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I very much agree. The older McLaren exhausts have that deeper undertone, the bassy lowdown, that set it apart from other turbo 8's. New ones still sound fine, but they have that tinny rasp which comes second to this.

  • @JayMaverick

    @JayMaverick

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe it's just my headphones but the 650S in this video sounds kind of industrial and overworked. Not bad per se, but it's more like a C4 Corvette than an Aston Martin DB9.

  • @yeticus1

    @yeticus1

    2 жыл бұрын

    McLaren don’t make engines, they’re made by Ricardo.

  • @AntoniusTyas

    @AntoniusTyas

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JayMaverick I think pretty much every 12C, 650S and P1 sounds rather industrial. The 12C/650S/720S GT3 even more so. Kinda like it though, so different from other flat-plane V8s.

  • @clkgtr12

    @clkgtr12

    Жыл бұрын

    that v8 low rumble love ut

  • @ladakhsail1
    @ladakhsail12 жыл бұрын

    Lovely weather...

  • @kevinvanneste2500
    @kevinvanneste25002 жыл бұрын

    675lt is my favorite " normal " mclaren, F1 and P1 are so special ♥

  • @x1wcd781
    @x1wcd7812 жыл бұрын

    These things are seriously undervalued at the moment, when you look at what you have to spend to get similar performance in other brands this is extraordinarily cheap! Stand to appreciate I think

  • @marfrandema1884

    @marfrandema1884

    2 жыл бұрын

    If reliability is not there then price is fair

  • @ProdicalMan

    @ProdicalMan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Let me know if the repair bill is undervalued as well 😆

  • @x1wcd781

    @x1wcd781

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marfrandema1884 Only ever claimed once on the warranty of mine, 5 year old and approaching 14k miles

  • @x1wcd781

    @x1wcd781

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ProdicalMan never had a bill for it other than servicing🤔

  • @1985gooz

    @1985gooz

    2 жыл бұрын

    They are absolutely undervalued. They need 25k bump.

  • @Android-vk8yh
    @Android-vk8yh2 жыл бұрын

    Very nice of big dream for those of us that can't even afford the suspension repair, makes me proud to be from Surrey

  • @theladyfingers___
    @theladyfingers___2 жыл бұрын

    I can't be alone in thinking the 12C was prettier than any of the models based on it that followed.

  • @MarkVinewood

    @MarkVinewood

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, and In my opinion it sounded throatier and deeper. Not sure if they went for equal length headers after that or what.

  • @Gorbyrev
    @Gorbyrev2 жыл бұрын

    Fabulous car. Great to see Thorpey and Litchfield supporting these. In truth I doubt anyone buys a car like this without a warranty. The £30k needed as a repair budget will have gone into the down payment!

  • @lionyleftwich4418
    @lionyleftwich4418 Жыл бұрын

    I want this!!!!!I love the look headlight style of the 600 model McLaren's

  • @deenoc3622
    @deenoc36222 жыл бұрын

    Interesting review. Do wonder what would happen to the McLaren quality control, customer service and car division if Audi did buy the whole thing, lock stock and barrel so they could get ahold of the f1 team (apart from the applied technologies division).

  • @flyinghedgehog3833
    @flyinghedgehog38332 жыл бұрын

    In next weeks video Jay is invited to Woking to review the Artura

  • @larssonk22

    @larssonk22

    2 жыл бұрын

    If McLaren have faith in their product they should!

  • @1985gooz
    @1985gooz2 жыл бұрын

    Couple of things, its a 12c with the following differences, obviously bodywork, slightly modified cylinder heads, slightly stiffer at the rear, suspension accumulators on top of the struts, thats literally it. The gearbox software, engine software that controls throttle response is still all the same as a 12c. 12c/650 amazing cars, and despite what people say they ARE reliable. Ive owned mine for over a year with nothing serious but normal car issues such as the occasional water leak which is easily fixed by replacing hose clamps with proper adjustment. If you maintain these cars properly and know what you are doing, you will have zero issues. BUY ONE, oh just to add, mine is not warrantied and I have that much confidence that I wont be purchasing one either. Waste of money. Its totally possible to own one of these cars without. Just make sure its been properly maintained and you are good. Considering the direction the brand is going, I very much doubt the cars will drop further in value, even the 12c. Sorry. I would also like to add that my car is now on 24k miles. Gearbox issues are mainly for cars that are not driven. a friend of mine owns one of the highest mileage 12cs on the planet at around 65k. In a very hot climate, Dubai, hes had no issues. I was on the fence buying one of these for a long time between an R8. The 12c is much better than the R8 v10 on paper and im pleased to say it is in real life as well. BUY

  • @sportzntouring
    @sportzntouring2 жыл бұрын

    Love these! And this one is in my ideal spec! Bit out of my price range at the moment... Hopefully not for long!

  • @1985gooz

    @1985gooz

    2 жыл бұрын

    They will only increase in value. They wont drop now, they have bottomed out.

  • @sportzntouring

    @sportzntouring

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@1985gooz haha... Yeah, I should have been clearer.... I didn't mean they'd come down in price, but that my budget will increase 👍

  • @1985gooz

    @1985gooz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sportzntouring good save. Who dares wins

  • @sportzntouring

    @sportzntouring

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@1985gooz save? Legit, I didn't even consider that my comment could be interpreted as the price coming down. All I had in mind was my budget increasing. It's not that far off TBH 😉

  • @clkgtr12

    @clkgtr12

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sportzntouring what about now

  • @bighes100
    @bighes1002 жыл бұрын

    It's great to see an ALL British car that's very good. Including the beautiful classic Mini in front which isn't a bmw.... 🙂

  • @cameron6249
    @cameron6249 Жыл бұрын

    mclaren's look nice and they're fast... that's the beginning and end of the positives!

  • @memsybabe
    @memsybabe2 жыл бұрын

    That driver's seat seems to be losing the fight a little. Maybe something to add to the warranty fixes? Great video by the way...

  • @Journey_Awaits
    @Journey_Awaits11 ай бұрын

    Best looking car they made right behind the speedtail and F1. Perfect blend of laidback grace and aggressive aero.

  • @global_nomad.
    @global_nomad.2 жыл бұрын

    lovely video.lovely enthusiasm, lovely idea....now where did I leave that lovely 100k?

  • @tom_forsyth
    @tom_forsyth2 жыл бұрын

    12:02 - in defence of the GT-R, when they split the Nismo from the road version, the road version got dramatically better suspension. I had one test drive and immediately traded in my 2010 for the 2015 - that's how dramatic it was. But I have thought very seriously about a Macca - the biggest hurdle is the GT-R boot and back seats - they're massive - it's an insanely practical car and a lovely daily driver. And I already have other silly track toys.

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    2 жыл бұрын

    Both great cars, I drove a 2017 GTR and yep, much better damped

  • @Punisher9419
    @Punisher94192 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why but supercars and hypercars don't interest me or get me excited. But then I get excited when I see an old Jaguar XJS V12 so what do I know.

  • @woody555kl
    @woody555kl2 жыл бұрын

    This car for value, p1 for pure savegery, and 720 spider for pure beauty👌

  • @rikardsjoholm504
    @rikardsjoholm504 Жыл бұрын

    One of the best cars I have driven! So easy to drive fast!

  • @sotirisbakaimis3276
    @sotirisbakaimis32762 жыл бұрын

    nice sound, especially in low rpm

  • @Mashmarriner69
    @Mashmarriner692 жыл бұрын

    One of the best sounding cars.

  • @Suprahampton
    @Suprahampton2 жыл бұрын

    I've always found the 570GT to have the nicest looks

  • @mgutkowski
    @mgutkowski2 жыл бұрын

    Great new video Jay, but I do get a tick every time you recommend a warranty. Statistically, if a warranty were worth having, you wouldn't be able to buy one. Over time, and maybe more than one or two cars, you *will* be better off simply with a savings account. The logic, and maths, is obvious.

  • @user-ih7gc7dt9l
    @user-ih7gc7dt9l2 жыл бұрын

    I like how small these cars are.

  • @holdenc1006
    @holdenc1006 Жыл бұрын

    I enjoy your channel. The big downside is you never use the camera angle showing the dash when you’re driving. I’d be all for it if that was the only angle throughout the whole video.

  • @jmiller175
    @jmiller1752 жыл бұрын

    Have been watching 650s for a while a now and this has convinced me to go for it so I’ve just put a deposit down on a volcano red spider! Can’t wait!

  • @jimalcock5132

    @jimalcock5132

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice one! It’s my car in the video. You won’t regret it!

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    2 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations

  • @ukpitts

    @ukpitts

    Күн бұрын

    2 years on …….a happy ownership experience? Any big bills ?

  • @courtneyrager2166
    @courtneyrager21662 жыл бұрын

    Great review, the dream is having a 650 in my life 😍 You mentioned about Thorne Motorsport providing a cheaper warranty, I’m sure I read something about McLaren banning their dealerships from selling parts to Thorney MS?! I assume that Thorney MS have overcome this hurdle?

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes they have

  • @larssonk22
    @larssonk222 жыл бұрын

    I really miss the rear light design on these

  • @jerusdc
    @jerusdc2 жыл бұрын

    I never understand all the knocking if the IRIS infotainment. I get in press Bluetooth and my phone is automatically connected. Then you only need to adjust volume. I wish it would do carp[lay but for an 9 year old system its really not that bad.

  • @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13
    @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ132 жыл бұрын

    Best sounding Mclaren engine in my book

  • @BenB91
    @BenB916 күн бұрын

    Exhaust noise is lacking for me. Not sure if this has the optional sports exhaust?

  • @ideegokg6127
    @ideegokg61272 жыл бұрын

    Nice report. Have 3 in the garage 12C Spider, 650S Coupe and 720S Spider. Best sports car I've ever had. Have already driven more than 150,000 km on my three. So far only very minor problems. Not more than with other cars. I can only advise everyone to drive or buy one. Greetings from Germany.

  • @martinhonan9588

    @martinhonan9588

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice. I'm looking at getting one later this year I have $150-$175 ( US) which would you recommend for all-around performance, reliability,etc.. ?

  • @Fee.1
    @Fee.12 жыл бұрын

    I find the scud just as enjoyable to drive slow, I can get lost in that sound ANYWHERE at ANY SPEED

  • @KSL12
    @KSL122 жыл бұрын

    Very tempting have I got room in my garage ?

  • @eze8970
    @eze89702 жыл бұрын

    Another friend called James, James?, are you cornering the market of them, or are they one of your original Jameses?! Thank for vid, I enjoyed this review, hopefully McLaren putting past issues behind them!

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    2 жыл бұрын

    Met him at the last meeting of the council of James

  • @eze8970

    @eze8970

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JayEmmOnCars 😂👍🙏

  • @napolean34
    @napolean34 Жыл бұрын

    Oh I just luved this guy in Shaun of the dead

  • @alanthecat59
    @alanthecat592 жыл бұрын

    Wow ,very little uk manufacturing beating from jem.shock.thumbs up

  • @michaellorenson2997
    @michaellorenson29972 жыл бұрын

    If I were willing to accept a sports car without a proper manual gearbox, while ignoring issues of reliability and downtime, the McLaren 650S would be the benchmark -- the one to beat for my money. If I had anything like enough money...

  • @BibtheBoulder
    @BibtheBoulder2 жыл бұрын

    Deciding to upgrade my Peugeot 106 diesel, this model of McLaren was on my 'possible' list. But at 58, and with a bad back, the low down position and the noisy engine were just too much for a miserable old git such as myself....shame, because I do like the look of them...

  • @sofoclesconfucius8277
    @sofoclesconfucius82772 жыл бұрын

    For someone who has a rather dim view of McLaren after sales service, you do seem to enjoy driving their cars!

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    2 жыл бұрын

    Always have!

  • @PLK123
    @PLK1232 жыл бұрын

    i mean, if you actually want speed you could always get an ultima or something similar, bugatti levels of speed for supercar money.

  • @petaaa5419
    @petaaa54192 жыл бұрын

    I'm debating between the 650s or the 12c only issue is I'm only 15 :/

  • @steffydog
    @steffydog2 жыл бұрын

    Very nice

  • @carllynch8798
    @carllynch87982 жыл бұрын

    Good 👍🏻 vid

  • @stu2418
    @stu24182 жыл бұрын

    Interesting about the Thorny warranty. I thought he said it was bumper to bumper. I'm sure he says on one of his videos that they can repair anything for circa £10k. Guess that's what the upper claim limit is. Wonder if it doesn't include the engine then. I would also question the costs/availability of parts for the gearbox too, but I think they're pretty reliable. Would love a McLaren but cost would be at the upper limit of my budget so maintenance costs works be a concern.

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thorney have answered this. Yes there is an upper claim limit of £10k, but that includes more or less all gearbox work and would cover rebuilding the top end of the engine too. they've only ever seen one or two bottom end failures and at least one of those was down to poor maintenance

  • @stu2418

    @stu2418

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JayEmmOnCars Cool thanks for clarifying. Are all McLaren warranties £5k or are the 12c ones still 3k? At £2.8k/£10k claim limit I guess his are pretty competitive. If keeping the car 3yrs or less then makes sense but if keeping longer then maybe just budgeting the money rather than laying out up front is a good option. How much better than the 12c do you think the 650 is? Is it worth the extra outlay?

  • @davidm793

    @davidm793

    2 жыл бұрын

    Stu crikey..... i was am in the process of considering (and window shopping) for a mclaren to add to the garage. The R8 v10 i have is covered by audi warranty at 900/year, all components, and no upper limit (it was 2k for first year cover). Mclaren warranty costs really do put me off, and even maintaining a "fund" looks as though it could be expensive!

  • @stu2418

    @stu2418

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@davidm793 Yup same boat here. Have a V8 myself and yeah the warranty cost after the first year is pretty decent. Looking at stepping up the V10 myself. The R8 at these price points is difficult to beat to be honest.

  • @davidm793

    @davidm793

    2 жыл бұрын

    Stu agreed and the sound/presence cant be beaten. The lmx is a keeper. I am lucky that we could take another car (my wife is very understanding) and we even looked at mclaren 600lt last week. No drive or anything, just to see how it looks. Very tempted, but the reliability and warranty is always a worry.

  • @robrackstraw
    @robrackstraw Жыл бұрын

    Is the leather separating from the back of the driver's seat?

  • @PhilipOberg
    @PhilipOberg11 ай бұрын

    These roads are always so tight. I think about trying to drive my F-150 around there😅

  • @brrrrr9999
    @brrrrr9999 Жыл бұрын

    You know, at first I was about to counter with "but the SLS roadster" - but then I checked the prices, and the 650S is coming in like 10-20k below an SLS roadster and does better on paper, too. Maintenance will be a nightmare for the 650S compared to the benz, but you can't eat your cake and have it too. Especially relevant today, 11 months later and after the peak of the market.

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    And I just don't like the drive of the SLS

  • @brrrrr9999

    @brrrrr9999

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JayEmmOnCars interesting, why's that? And thanks for taking the time to reply. (I own one so I'm a bit biased, but I'm not one to hold an opinion against someone)

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brrrrr9999 kzread.info/dash/bejne/onygk66qkdnIe7g.html

  • @74maverickuk
    @74maverickuk2 жыл бұрын

    When’s the supra review coming??? Only asking because I have the jarama race track edition

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    2 жыл бұрын

    Next week

  • @drumnbass8
    @drumnbass82 жыл бұрын

    Nice looking car, apart from the drivers seat upper and side bolster looks like it has collapsed already. Oh McLaren, we love you but..

  • @aljack1979
    @aljack1979 Жыл бұрын

    What about the 720s sport? Can be picked up for £70k. The 650s is starting to appreciate and looking at £100k

  • @HG504X
    @HG504X2 жыл бұрын

    Underrated car, considering it can probably just about keep on the tail of the much newer F8 Tributo

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    2 жыл бұрын

    On a country lane this would easily keep with an F8

  • @All_Together_Now
    @All_Together_Now2 жыл бұрын

    5th viewer and first comment! not as cool as first but its the earliest ive ever been! Big fan Jay :)

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    2 жыл бұрын

    Never too late :)

  • @user-nt9nd7xm5f
    @user-nt9nd7xm5f2 жыл бұрын

    First world problems, agreed there’s some subtle upgrades on the 650 but I have a 12C Spider and am more than happy. Yes it has ancillary issues, faults and agreed always obtain a warranty. I’m no Ayrton but I have no issues with the gearbox, suspension or the sound, I don’t actually like folk staring if it’s unobtrusively loud at low speed, when you gun it, it’s awesome. Design wise in my mind it’s timeless, Mr Stephenson didn’t and doesn’t add bs to his designs it’s all functional. Practical wise I take it to the supermarket and garden centre and can even fit a 100 litre bag of compost in the front. Performance driving wise went to the Nurburgring last month and stayed with Apex, it was awesome on every corner, straight of the 14 mile green hell. Also a shed load of people came up to me in the car parks around the circuit and complemented its looks/design which I thought was interesting as there was some real kit there. 🏎💨

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    2 жыл бұрын

    12C is still an excellent car

  • @ShalomBrother
    @ShalomBrother2 жыл бұрын

    What’s happened to the drivers seat? Is it not covered in the warranty?

  • @ManilvaRS
    @ManilvaRS2 жыл бұрын

    Rover Amaranth Purple that was James 🤓

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ta very much

  • @boredalchemist
    @boredalchemist2 жыл бұрын

    can it beat a 911 turbo s though?

  • @nattcharles
    @nattcharles2 жыл бұрын

    Which do you prefer out of this and the Honda NSX you recently tested and also loved?

  • @bulversteher
    @bulversteher2 жыл бұрын

    I'd fancy a 650S spider with 12C front bits and softer (I guess) ride setup.

  • @3xc1t3r

    @3xc1t3r

    2 жыл бұрын

    So a 12c?

  • @bulversteher

    @bulversteher

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@3xc1t3r A sorted out 12C, if you will

  • @DjDolHaus86
    @DjDolHaus862 жыл бұрын

    My only grief with the McLaren range is that they've gone to the Porsche design school of making everything look the same

  • @TheChill001

    @TheChill001

    2 жыл бұрын

    my thoughts exactly...already imagining an SUV with a 570 front

  • @xaviergl

    @xaviergl

    2 жыл бұрын

    I do find their different cars look very different (if you can’t tell a 911 and cayman apart i mean common are you even trying?) the SUV’s definitely do look similar but ill say absolutely nothing else on the road looks like a panamera. Now… when it comes to 911 yes i agree but ill argue its not a bad thing

  • @jamescarles8764
    @jamescarles87642 жыл бұрын

    Great review, I have one and love it. Question, you mentioned 720s was a backward step, can you elaborate as I thought it would be the logical next ‘step up?’ Thanks

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    2 жыл бұрын

    Of course, the main issue seems to be in terms of build quality - 720 generally had more issues

  • @marknash74

    @marknash74

    2 жыл бұрын

    But the 720s is leaps and bounds ahead in terms or performance, tech, downforce, handling etc etc etc?? 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @daveseemerollin6357

    @daveseemerollin6357

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marknash74 performance and build quality are 2 different things.

  • @marknash74

    @marknash74

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@daveseemerollin6357 I agree, build quality on the 720s is comparable with the rest of the range and other similar brands. The first 720’s had a lot of teething problems, late 2018 onwards saw revisions to address these.

  • @TheChill001
    @TheChill0012 жыл бұрын

    am I weird for saying I like the design of the M12 more than the later models? I just dislike the whole fussy front most of the modern mclaren's seem to have, the m12 was just plain nice, no fuss, no wrong lines.

  • @geraldswain3259
    @geraldswain32592 жыл бұрын

    In the opening scenes there was fear in your facial expressions ! .

  • @TheJmebe
    @TheJmebe2 жыл бұрын

    It's going to take a few more like this before you get anywhere near a press car..!

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    2 жыл бұрын

    I doubt I will ever get a press car from McLaren. They can really hold a grudge.

  • @TheJmebe

    @TheJmebe

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JayEmmOnCars ..well we're all very happy with the cars you do get. MCL's loss!

  • @TraveladvRajanSRai
    @TraveladvRajanSRai2 жыл бұрын

    They good til they drip. Need new seals etc trans

  • @kevinfindlay2794
    @kevinfindlay27942 жыл бұрын

    Had mine for four years without any issues... I wonder how many of the people slagging the 650s have owned one...🤔

  • @jimalcock5132

    @jimalcock5132

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not many!! It’s mine and still would have the warranty though!!

  • @kevinfindlay2794

    @kevinfindlay2794

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jimalcock5132 I had a ton more issues with my F430 than I’ve ever had with the 650

  • @jimalcock5132

    @jimalcock5132

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why is it such a polarising brand!?

  • @kevinfindlay2794

    @kevinfindlay2794

    2 жыл бұрын

    In a funny sort of way those that know, Know... those that don’t are very misinformed and missing out.

  • @rdawgz866

    @rdawgz866

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm on my 2nd 570s and have had minimal issues.

  • @Harpreet06
    @Harpreet062 жыл бұрын

    Would you get spider or coupe? Since it doesn't sound that great, was thinking coupe

  • @R03333

    @R03333

    2 жыл бұрын

    Arguably there's no reason to choose the coupe as the carbon tub is so stiff that you lose nothing by going convertible

  • @samharper5881

    @samharper5881

    2 жыл бұрын

    Balancing out the positives and negatives, spider is the easy decision unless you particularly like the visuals of a coupe. Next to nobody is capable of using the extra bit of performance a coupe gives; everyone is capable of dropping the roof and enjoying the sunshine etc.

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly it'd have to be a spider

  • @mbangs81

    @mbangs81

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JayEmmOnCars does the rear screen lower on the spider when the roof is up Jay?

  • @antonybaxter9306

    @antonybaxter9306

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mbangs81 yes it does

  • @jameshunterford4099
    @jameshunterford40992 жыл бұрын

    If Jay says it’s a good car I believe him. I’m in no position to buy a McLaren and may never be. I love cars of all types, ages and brands, but I just cannot get interested in McClaren. I don’t know why, but the brand and their cars do nothing for me. Even if driven it was the best thing ever (which they’re not) I know I wouldn’t want one. When I see them on screen or in person I feel nothing. So very odd for a born petrol head. An interesting review though and many thanks to JayEmm for the content.

  • @amelluis6161

    @amelluis6161

    Жыл бұрын

    Fully agree, the only reason I'm watching a McLaren video (apart from the F1) is Jay presenting. I find them so generic, all looking the same as sound so boring. I don't care at all if they are fast, that's almost a weakness in my view for a road car. Only teenagers should care about speed. Emotion and feel are what matters IMHO.

  • @paulfastbikes361
    @paulfastbikes3612 жыл бұрын

    Lotto win dream

  • @cp4512
    @cp45122 жыл бұрын

    If only it was reliable and didn’t have the poor depreciation, otherwise it would be on my shortlist.

  • @PixelVogue
    @PixelVogue2 жыл бұрын

    Give me the Scuda any day

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Scud is a fantastic thing, but nearly double the money and in many ways less usable

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