I knew a former Stuka pilot. So many great stories. In North Africa the priority target was water tankers and supplies. (No surprise but seldom considered.) Was shot down behind the lines twice. Escaped once, a POW in Italy at the end of the war. A few months after, he and a friend took off down the road and hiked over the Alps to return home. He was avidly anti-war.

You will probably know this, but just in case. The Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum in the USA, are in the process of restoring a Ju 87 R-4 to flying condition, so it looks like we'll get to see one fly since WW2.

@seahawks1912

2 жыл бұрын

Is that the one in Paine Field, Everett, WA?

@bigbigmurphy

2 жыл бұрын

Plz have the siren ~~

@IntyMichael

2 жыл бұрын

If they ever open up again.

@urbangeeze1348

2 жыл бұрын

IntyMichael. I fear you maybe right, as I believe the whole aircraft collection is being put up for sale, & the Stuka restoration still has a long way to go. The recently completed Me262 restoration is unique in the fact that they had the Jumo engines rebuilt with modern materials, so will be the only airworthy Me 262 with it's original engines if it finally takes to the air.

@IntyMichael

2 жыл бұрын

@@urbangeeze1348 It would be a shame if the collection gets split up. I visited the museum in 2019. Super rare stuff like the Focke-Wulf 190 D-13.

That was very informative. Far more check to do before an attack than I thought. The altimeter alert is a cool thing i didn't know about either

@MilitaryAviationHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

That looks like an interesting project.

@MilitaryAviationHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Hey you, I know you, wanna write a book?

@MilitaryHistoryVisualized

2 жыл бұрын

@@MilitaryAviationHistory another one... hmm let me look at my Excel sheets...

@chumisfum7740

2 жыл бұрын

Looking sexy

@Klajnepojken

2 жыл бұрын

And people say germans don't have humour : D

@slartybartfarst55

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent banter, chaps! And thanks for this "how to" guide. It seems like all town pidgeons have also read this Official Manual, as they are so good at hitting stationary, car-shaped targets.

Simple, a positive attitude is the basis for all success, and the Ju 87B flew around with a huge smile under its nose! 😁😁😁

@ScubaShark--8964

2 жыл бұрын

+D

@panzerdeal8727

2 жыл бұрын

Or.."Just grin a Bare it.."

@SparrowNoblePoland

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, and one of the first things it did in WWII was levelling a hospital, killing lots of civilians including women and children.

@trauko1388

2 жыл бұрын

@@SparrowNoblePoland OMG! The aircraft must be evil then!!!

@bigbarkingdog2010

2 жыл бұрын

@@trauko1388 German policies against Jews were understood by 1933. Germany atrocities against civilians (Poles, Czechs, etc) were well-known during the war. Every man who flew these Stukas was a criminal . . . whose family likely paid a high price late in the war. My grandfather was born in the US to German parents. He refused to join the Bund. He did the right thing and fought Germany in both WWI (enlisting before he was 18) & WWII in the US Armed Services. To be human is to have Free Will. It is a weird sickness to admire & fetishize the defeated German war machine.

one thing about the stuka that has been taken and used in every war movie is the siren sound when diving, the stuka was the only one to have it

Those rather pridictable dive paths were not ideal later in the war at keeping the plane aflight. But definitely could lay a bomb where it was needed more than most alternatives.

@anonydun82fgoog35

2 жыл бұрын

Proximity fuses in anti-aircraft ammo took care of that...

@thekinginyellow1744

2 жыл бұрын

@@anonydun82fgoog35IIRC only the Americans had proximity fuses, and by the time they arrived in Europe Stukas weren't flying against them.

@praevasc4299

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, if you have air superiority, then this is THE perfect Close Air Support aircraft... this is why it was so effective early in the war, and got obsolete when the Germans lost air superiority.

@ryankiesow8440

2 жыл бұрын

@@praevasc4299 a10s can carry sidewinders.

@praevasc4299

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryankiesow8440 So what? We are talking about WW2 dive bombers here.

Ju 87: "exist" Military Aviation History: "INFINITE CONTENT"

@copter2000

2 жыл бұрын

Stuka is his spirit animal.

@petersmulders8058

2 жыл бұрын

@@copter2000 If i won the lotto i would buy a stuka

@arya31ful

2 жыл бұрын

Me, A Stuka Simp : "YES!, MORE!. STUKAS!"

I purchased the signature edition of your book "Stuka". I'm a dive-plane junky - your book sounds like it might make me feel seated in the JU 87 Cockpit. The SBD Dauntless is my other favorite. I hope I live long enough to see a book like yours dedicated to the Dauntless dive-bomber? My mother was in love with a Dauntless Pilot, but he was killed at Bougainville returning from a mission with a heavily damaged aircraft & with the rear gunner dead. He bailed out when the aircraft broke out in flames - & - his chute failed to open. The pilot's mother wanted my mother to have his all military belongings (letters, pictures, and his purple heart medal, etc.) - before she died. My mother gave me what "Pat" gave her combined with what she obtained from the pilot's mother before she died. After, my mom died, I gave everything to the curator of the Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola. To my surprise, he set up an appointment for a later date to meet - so, he could pull up "Pat's military records so we could page through them. I felt good afterward & felt like mission acomplished!

I really congratulate you on showing this Stuka with ALL of it's authentic war time markings. I've seen so many WW2 German aircraft that have been restored without that one marking on the tail. I think it's important to look at the past without modifications.

@johnshacklett2265

2 жыл бұрын

Also: leave the Confederate statues up!

@firaasmygls9307

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnshacklett2265 yes they should we should forever remember those losers

@TheWhoamaters

2 жыл бұрын

@@firaasmygls9307 And that they lasted less time than a presidency

I read the book "Dauntless Hell Divers" by Buell. He explained the dive procedure quite differently than what I thought. USN training was to pass over the target, close throttle, pull-up into a stall and half snap-roll, then pull through to bring the nose down, as I recall.

@H-Zazoo

2 жыл бұрын

The difference was that the Dauntless wasn't used to terrorize civilians.

@chapiit08

2 жыл бұрын

@@H-Zazoo No, the allies resorted to carpet bombing instead.

@H-Zazoo

2 жыл бұрын

@@chapiit08 Nice try in moral relativism. The Stuka was used to attack civilians as part of unprovoked invasions. e.g. Poland 1939. The Netherlands 1940.

@chapiit08

2 жыл бұрын

@@H-Zazoo Your ignorance precedes you, the invasion of Poland wasn't unprovoked in the first place.

@H-Zazoo

2 жыл бұрын

@@chapiit08 Don't stop now, you're on a roll. :) Tell us how the Japanese were victims also.

You made my inner nerd so happy today. Thanks. Also remember: cool guys never look at explosions. That's why we can never get accurate kill counts. xD

@MilitaryAviationHistory

2 жыл бұрын

So what you are saying is.... ...rear gunners are perpetually uncool?

@ClayRHicks

2 жыл бұрын

@@MilitaryAviationHistory I could agree with that

@terraflow__bryanburdo4547

2 жыл бұрын

@@MilitaryAviationHistory So can you name any of Rudel's gunners? There is your answer.

@paoloviti6156

2 жыл бұрын

@@MilitaryAviationHistory I agree fully with you....!

@josephking6515

2 жыл бұрын

@@MilitaryAviationHistory Most definitely and they also have a backward attitude with their flying practice.

When was 15 years old, I built a model of a STUKA, as project finished from the start.

Perhaps one day, an episode of inside the cockpit of the Me 410 or Do 335. Two of my favorite aircraft that both have long and complicated histories

So, the real title is "How do dive bomb a ship with a Ju 87", not why the Ju 87 is so accurate.

@TheContinuation

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it leaves you the way the Stuka dive bombed as the answer as to why it was accurate, a little misleading title

@Sovetskyz

2 жыл бұрын

I beg to differ, because the video discussed the Stuka manual and performed by the book is what makes Stuka is so accurate. That comprehensive manual is what makes Stuka accurate, hence the video title. At least that's what I understood and inferred.

@mjxw

2 жыл бұрын

It was much more accurate than level bombing for two reasons: 1) the bomb(s) was released much closer to the target, 2) the bomb's transition from level to downward flight was done while under control of the plane. If you think about why bombing can be inaccurate, it comes largely from two things: atmospheric interference (wind gusts, etc. throw the bombs off course) and the variable parabola the bomb flies as it transitions from level to downward flight, which can be influenced by maneuvering of the plane or changes in speed, etc was very difficult to calculate in real-time without computers, which obviously were unavailable in WW2. The dive bombing motion itself largely eliminates both problems: the bomb has already transitioned from level to downward flight while entirely under control of the plane and the short distance of release eliminates much if not all atmospheric interference.

@miguelurrutdarkorangefan2750

2 жыл бұрын

Dauntless was a better dive bomber. just ask the Japanese Navy. They dove straight down, a fact hidden by propaganda always showing it diving at a shallow angle.

@armantasSK

2 жыл бұрын

@@miguelurrutdarkorangefan2750 they dived straight to the target

“Throttle to zero percent, pitch to zero percent, extend air brakes, and let loose the dogs of war”. Big congrats on the book! Wishing you nothing but the best for the future for you and your amazing channel:)

From the video title, I was expecting more analysis about "WHY the JU was so accurate", not just a walk through of the dive bombing procedure.

Very interesting. Modern aircraft (or at least the A-10C I'm taking the following procedures from) have an entirely different approach, which is probably a combination of mamy factors, among which computer assisted targeting and release (CCIP and CCRP for example) is probably the most important. The very first part is similar, you spot the target and build a set of reference points to always know where to generally look if you were to lose sight of it. TGPs, HUD, and HMCS make this much easier than in a Stuka. The approach is different though: instead of going straight to target to then push positive Gs to point your nose at it, you start by always coming at angle (90º is best); using reference points on the canopy and/or your instruments, you judge the right spot to start your run/dive. This involves rolling the aircraft nearly inverted (IIRC it's 90º + desired dive angle), and then pull positive Gs until the nose is a bit ahead of the target on your desired attack azimuth; from there you roll back straight, and if needed align the plane with the target with further rolling motions. There is no pushing negative Gs or rudder usage during the dive. Either you or the targeting computer release the ordnance and then you pull out of the dive until at least a 0º vertical angle: what you do next depends on what type of recovery you're flying, and may range from continuing the pull to an unloaded roll into a level turn. This is the case for a single ship bombing a lone target in a non threatening airspace, things change with multiple aircraft or air defenses obviously, although the dive and pullup part remains the same. Anyways, thought this might be interesting to someone as an example on how procedures change with technology and doctrine.

@5peciesunkn0wn

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't realize the A-10 can be used as a dive bomber. Always saw it as a 'full speed pointed at the target, strafe the area, dump the bombs, GTFO' kind of plane.

@MilitaryAviationHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Iirc there is a very rudimentary analogue to CCRP from WW2 with a Swedish gun sight. You go into a shallow dive, aim at the point you want to hit, flick a switch and level out. It'll drop the bombs automatically once getting to the release point - ofc without a HUD and modern computing, the accuracy suffers a bit but it was a valid attempt.

@angrybirder9983

2 жыл бұрын

Modern CCIP bombing is actually quite similar. You get a pipper in the HUD that shows you where your bomb would fall if you release now and you fly that pipper on your intended target. The only method to drop unguided bombs on moving targets. Of course, that only works if this point is inside the HUD, in other words, the bomb needs to fall at an angle that is relatively close to your flight path. To achive this, you either need to fly fast, low or in a dive. Fast jets can CCIP bomb in level flight or in a shallow dive from low altitude. From higher altitude, steeper dives (up to 45°) are required, but never an much as in WWII dive bombing. In the slow A-10, you always need uncomfortably steep dives to see the pipper. The main difference is of course that the dive is only necessary to see your target, which means that the dive can be more shallow and much shorter (just long enough to aim). CCRP is completly different. You insert a location into your plane (pre-briefed, datalinked, A-G radar, TGP etc.) and fly towards it. You get a HUD cue for the correct azimuth and a countdown to release time. A few seconds BEFORE release time, you press and hold the pickle (bomb release) button and the plane will automatically drop the bomb at the right time. You usually don't CCRP in a dive. Actually, you can even enter a climb shortly before release to loft your bomb and make it fly further. There are also intermediate forms (DTOS in the F-16, enhanced CCIP in the A-10) where you designate a target with your HUD symbology and then switch to CCRP.

Hey, great video! But you have have not really explained, why STUKA Dive bombing was so much more accurate (compared to level bombing). I am talking about ballistics, aiming errors and wind effects. During a level bomb run the typical impact pattern is a very long elipsoid along the release heading. The steeper the dive, the elipsoid shrinks to a circle. (At 90degree dive it is a perfect circle). The lower the release altitude, that circle gets smaller. A higher dive angle compensates for negative effects of early or late bomb release. With the wind corrected crosshairs on the target at minimum release altitude during a 90degree dive attack, you will always hit! No matter, if you pickle a second early or late. I assume bomb CEP being Zero. ( CEP: Circular error probable, meaning the bomb is aerodynamically perfect, which is actually none of the freefall bombs.) Musste ich einfach mal kommentieren. Ich war WSO auf Tornado, FWIC instructor in Holloman und habe viele dumb bomb Dive Attacks geflogen. Normalerweise 30-45 Grad, ich habe jedoch auch HUD videos von 90Grad Attacks. Beste Grüsse - and keep on!

Im glad that i backed the book, the stuka is my favorite plane personally

The attention to detail here. Ju 87 was a perfect of example or German engineering and aeronautics at the time. Kudos.

I have just ordered my copy of the book. Really appreciate the great content you share with us all!

@MilitaryAviationHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Thank so much, Mark, very appreciated

Nice hit and what a timing, started a new Stuka career 2 days ago 😄

"Stuka Pilot" by Hans Ulrich Rudel is a good book on the subject. Rudel destroyed over 500 tanks.

@dallesamllhals9161

2 жыл бұрын

Hardcore! Lucky and a fanatic! Hans-U R. = Perfect for 2020+

Looking forward to receiving the book. Great work guys.

never knew the Ju-87 had a target window

You should do a video on how to use modern precision guided munitions. Too many people think it's just a button push and it goes automatically to the target. But a great many civilian casualties are caused when poorly trained pilots do not know how to use the equipment as designed.

@kotori87gaming89

2 жыл бұрын

Even if it is operated correctly, it is entirely possible that the target was improperly selected due to bad intelligence, or the target is hiding amongst civilians hoping to cause maximum civilian casualties.

@apstrike

2 жыл бұрын

@Peter Evans Even with modern PGMs it’s not just a button push. The weapon will miss if’s not used properly. And target acquisition is also very complicated. Accurate GPS data has to be entered and human beings can still screw that up in various ways.

@wolf310ii

2 жыл бұрын

@@apstrike It seems like you are the one who doesnt know much about guided weapons. Only GPS guided weapons need accurate GPS data, while other, like the AIM-9, just need a "button push"

I like that the target didn't try to evade.

Thanks for this video; I've been waiting to learn about the Ju-87 procedure on this. BTW, I see at lot of viewer questions about dive angle and why not 90 degrees. We should consider that in a true 90 degree vertical dive the wings are not producing any lift. Therefore the pilot is unable to correct his aim point left or right by simply rolling the airplane. And if you are aiming long in a vertical dive you can't simply push the nose slightly lower to adjust. Even in a 70 degree dive there is some forward travel over the ground and it is easier for the pilot to shift the aim point left or right with lateral control, or fore and aft with longitudinal control. In a pure vertical dive you probably end up rolling around the aim point trying to correct error displacement errors induced by wind or other factors, making it much more difficult to keep the pipper on the target. I'm guessing the better aim point control of a shallower dive would outweigh any error induced by the small trail distance or ballistic path of the bomb.

@chkpik

2 жыл бұрын

Your wings will produce lift always even when in a 90 degree dive my friend. As long as air is flowing over them. Its not about angle relative to the ground its about airflow over the wing. But it is much harder to aim and control speed the steeper the dive.

@burnttoast111

2 жыл бұрын

"BTW, I see at lot of viewer questions about dive angle and why not 90 degrees. We should consider that in a true 90 degree vertical dive the wings are not producing any lift." I think your intuition is a little off here, iirc. I won't go into all the details and caveats, but will try to explain this as simply as possible. 1. Wings have both a chord line and a camber line from the shape of the wing. For conventional wings like on WW II aircraft, these are not symmetrical. Lift is generated when the relative body of air the wing is traveling through has to travel a longer distance on one side than the other. The side where air has to travel further has greater ram pressure (velocity), but lower static pressure. The difference in static pressures between opposite sides of a wing is what generates lift, as high pressure seeks low pressure. So even when relative motion of such a wing has it's chord line pointing straight into a body of air, it still generates lift. 2. It is typical on aircraft to have chord lines which point slightly up by a few degrees compared to the fuselage. This is called the 'angle of incidence'. This allows an aircraft to cruise at a given altitude while having it's nose point level into the direction of flight, while generating sufficient lift. So when an aircraft has it's nose pointing straight down, this would mean the chord of the wings are not pointing straight down, but rather a few degrees up. I couldn't find any info on this for the Ju-87 specifically with a quick search, but maybe there is some info on this out there.

@gort8203

2 жыл бұрын

@@chkpik Sorry, but you are wrong. It is about angle of the wing relative to the wind, and that angle must be held to zero in a sustained 90 degree dive. If the wing were producing lift it would be altering the flight path and reducing the dive angle. The pilot has to hold the wing at zero or even negative angle of attack (depending on its camber) to maintain an unaccelerated flight path.

@gort8203

2 жыл бұрын

@@burnttoast111 You guys are killing me here. For sake of simplicity forget how a wing produces lift, and just look at the flight path relative to the horizon. In level flight the lift produced equals the weight of the aircraft. That 1G of force is opposed by gravity, which is why the flight path is level. If you produce more than 1G of force the flight path will not remain level and the airplane will enter an upward curving flight path In a 90 degree dive, the wing cannot be allowed to produce lift, because the lack of an opposing force would cause that lift to alter the flight path, and you would no longer be in a 90 degree dive. As I said to the previous doubter, the wing may need to be held at a negative angle of attack if it is a cambered airfoil. With a symmetrical airfoil zero AOA is easy.

@josephking6515

2 жыл бұрын

To produce no lift from the wings, the *angle of attack* needs to be about negative 4°. Even when the wing is stalled it is still producing some lift towards the wing tips but not enough to equal the weight of the aircraft.

Every time a Stuka was destroyed . . . an Angel got his/her wings.

Once, many years ago, I had a pretty heated argument with my grandfather ( who was with the german artillery in russia as a messenger rider/observer ). I told him that the Stuka was a pretty awful plane overall despite being an excellent divebomber ... he didn´t take it well because it saved their asses lots of times and it got a reputation with the ground troops.

@sztypettto

2 жыл бұрын

You're actually right about the Ju-87 being an awful plane. It was a great plane from it's creation until 1939. Beginning 1940 and onwards it was only suitable in theatres where the enemy had non-existent air defense or fighter presence. But even then it's armaments post 1940 were suboptimal. The British, Soviets, and US began equipping their CAS aircraft with rockets, high calibre cannons, extra range, high speed, and what not. You have to remember that warfare is a very emotional experience; religious, spiritual, traumatic, etc. Presence of the Stuka on the frontlines, saving ground troops, destroying key enemy targets and returning to combat with multiple sorties was the excellence of the Luftwaffe's doctrines and innovations in ground servicing, forward airbases, depots, battlefield mechanics, and the German Army's doctrines to combine air-land elements with good timing and coordination, complemented by the radio equipment and coordination procedures. But all that is hard to fathom as a soldier on the battlefield, shot at by guns, mortar, artillery and what not. So the sight of a Stuka formation diving on enemy positions has an emotional connection than a capability demonstration.

@barryaiello3127

2 жыл бұрын

@@sztypettto Vut the Stuka WAS very accurate, it was the only WW2 dive bomber that was comfortable at a 90 degree dive. Like most any dive bomber it was pretty easy to shoot down if your in a fighter aircraft so you had to have top cover or air superiority to avoid this.

@freppie_

2 жыл бұрын

@@sztypettto to be fair the stuka would be equipped with gun pods holding 37mm anti tank cannons or 6 machinegun gunpods. even more commonly were the mgs replaced with 20mm autocannons.

@freppie_

2 жыл бұрын

@@barryaiello3127 yes and no the stuka was slow but very manouverable. so it might turn away but its rear machinegunner could still take pot shots at the the fighter tailing him, while the fighter pilot had to control alot to get the stuka in it's sights

@sztypettto

2 жыл бұрын

, as a player of WarThunder and IL2 series of games, I can attest to your point about additional upgrades in armament types for the Ju-87 airframe. I also understand that it's hard to tell on KZread from a comment about the other person's knowledge. Considering the additional armaments (guns, cannons, cluster munitions), and improvements to the equipment (engine, armour, etc). Stuka was pretty much outdated as a design past 1939. Don't get me wrong, I love the Stuka. Played it countless times, read plenty about it. But let's face the facts - Ju-87's success between 1940 - 1943 was attributed to the lack of fighter opposition. It was a slow, lumbering, poorly equipped, poorly protected aircraft compared to other aircraft of the time, such as Mosquito, IL-2, P-47, and F4U. A good replacement to the Ju-87 in the Luftwaffe's inventory could have been the Bf-110, FW-190, Me-410, and I know some people may mention the Hs-123, but I wouldn't count on that. The Luftwaffe pilots and generals deserve more credit for the success in Luftwaffe's Combat Air Support missions. When you think about the less than 1,000 Ju-87s available in any given month of the entire World War, fighting in at least 4-5 regions against a combined opposition of more than 10,000 fighters, and 5,000 CAS aircraft, it baffles the mind.

That was a cool demonstration. No kidding about the real complications of dive-bombing. Perspective. Nice hit on the stern of the target.

Well produced video on a subject that is of great interest. Well Done

I am so looking forward to flying a JU87 in VR one day.

Very well done video and the visuals using IL-2 Battle of stalingrad are just genius.

SBDs had to dive with the canopy open since otherwise the sight/windscreen would fog up... no wonder Eric Brown preferred the Stuka over it.

@Chilly_Billy

2 жыл бұрын

Umm... big deal.

@trauko1388

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chilly_Billy Indeed it was.

@user-njyzcip

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chilly_Billy try opening your car windows at 250kph and telling me it's not a big deal 💀

This is such a great in depth video! Growing up, dad was really into the Stuka as a childhood obsession due to 60s and 70s WW2 movies he watched. He passed the interest along to me, and I've been fascinated with these beautiful and deadly machines ever since

it had a hell of a Air brakes on those wide wings and tail ailerons, , also there was no anti aircraft guns in must cases

Captain Eric 'Winkle' Brown flew many German aircraft after the war and was amazed that the Ju-87 actually felt comfortable when diving at a 90 degree angle. No other aircraft he flew (he has the world record for most aircraft types flown) equalled this.

Outstanding video and presentation.

Love all your content. As a fellow WW2 aircraft nerd, I had the chance to see a C47 that flew two missions on DDay in person. I made a few photos public if anyone wants to see. Keep up the great work!!!!!!! I will spread the word about your channel to everyone I meet. P.S. If the weather allows I hope to see B-29 (Fifi) and B-24 tomorrow.

Germany had at the time Stukas statitioned in Sweden south of Stockholm on a field where swedish engineers helped developing the Stuka dive bomb technique.

@mattilatvala4164

2 жыл бұрын

During the war? Or when? 😮

@wolf310ii

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattilatvala4164 Befor the war, when gemany was not allowed to develop or own a Airforce, tanks or u-boats, they develop/tested these weapons in russia, sweden, spain, netherlands, ...

@mattilatvala4164

2 жыл бұрын

@@wolf310ii Yes, the WW2 start submarine prototypes were semi-secretly made here in Finland, and F got 3 big 2 smaller (1 still as museum) and Estonia 2, with connected C artillery, mining, nets, having close-knit potential to totally block Soviet Navy.

That was fantastic! Great video

One of reasons of it’s infamous bombing accuracy is because of 90 degree dive and not fogging the sight up. The USN (United States Navy) had problems with fogging up of the SBD Dauntless’s telescopic sight this was improved with SB2C Helldiver which had a reflector sight the dive angle on SB2C Helldiver was altered to open plane’s bombbay when releasing the bombs and by closing the bombbay doors along with retraction of dive brakes after dropping the bombs on target the reason was because the bombs in SB2C Helldiver where carried in a internal bombbay which was done to reduce the amount of drag when carrying heavy ordnance like bombs and a torpedo.

The anti-fogging measures were very important, at least in the South Pacific they could make the difference between seeing the target and being blind. At the Battle of the Coral Sea American SPD's, which were the Kings of Midway 3 weeks later, were near useless due to fogging. Every source describes the SPD's being blind. Morison 'History of United States Naval Operations in World War II' Lindstrom 'The First Team'. The air over a 77 -80 degree F ocean is humid to say the least. If your canopy and bomb sight are at the cool temperature of cruising at 10,000 feet they are going to fog as you plummet to the sea before you can sing 'Bali Hai' and they did. While the failure of the SPD's at Coral Sea saved the Japanese a carrier it also gave them a false picture of the American dive bombers effectiveness which might have influenced the use of CAP which was not the required obsessive compulsive. One can make to much of that; but in the colder waters of the mid-Pacific where the Americans had considerable practice (and where they had over-looked extreme difficulty of South Seas fogging) the unopposed SPD's were scoring over 50%

The rear gunners must have had a lot of trust in their pilots. It must have been unsettling being in a steep dive while sat backwards and with no control.

@K3mr0n

2 жыл бұрын

it was also one of the deadliest jobs in ww2, especially IL 2 rear gunners had huge losses. Mostly very young involuntarily selected soldiers without any training.

@mgn5667

2 жыл бұрын

ive heard information that some pilots were reluctant to do this.. diving at the earths surface

I was reading a Stuka pilot's memoir a while back, and he only mentioned the auto-recovery system once. Seems the brass wanted the system used, but the pilots did not, and didn't. Pilots were more comfortable with their own skill sets. Ditto for the siren... rarely if ever used. The memoir did mention that the crew would make whistles from "paper" (probably cardboard - translation difficulties) and attach these to the bomb fins. I imagine the negative G's when coming out of a dive were barely tolerable! At 600-knots and that close to the ground, it would take some work to recover from the dive; be it automatic or pilot-initiated.

@vksasdgaming9472

2 жыл бұрын

It was meant to keep less good pilots safe from unintended lithobraking.

Great stuff man! Man I love the way you say Stuka, lol.

Man, you're really in love with the JU-87. (I feel your pain, I have a special affection to the A6M Mitsubishi "zero")

My Opa was in the 8th panzer division. He told me one of the darkest days was when his unit was misidentified and attacked by Stukas . They just were disembarked when they heard the Stukas. They didn’t react until they realized they were the target. Opa said the Stukas were deadly accurate. He said they could put a bomb in your shirt pocket. The Panzerjager Abt 43 lost about 10 men and several Marders that day. Opa was just lucky. He dove the right way that day. The reason they were misidentified? A simple mistake. The officer who staged the Marders and trucks pointed the gun tubes in the wrong direction.

@dallesamllhals9161

2 жыл бұрын

Blue on Blue = Tried that in 2004 and 2007! AKA NOT an OLD thing :-/

Always a pleasure to watch and to listen (I make model aircraft so like something good to listen too when I build.) And I like the way you use IL2 to illustrate your videos... 30 years ago graphics of this quality would be very expensive.

Awesome stuff. Very informative and entertaining. 💣

@MilitaryAviationHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Very informative and fascinating look at the primary design purpose of the Sturzkampfflugzeuge.

@freethinker8477

2 жыл бұрын

you wanted to write: Sturzkampfflugzeuge

@mikeandhev

2 жыл бұрын

@@freethinker8477 Cheers! Now corrected.

Always interesting, thank you.

You’re the king of the Stuka Chris!!!! The 🐐 of World War 2 dive bomber experts!!!

Thanks 🙏 so much for this video Señor! I am in charge of the weapon testing & discovery department and weapon technology for the Sinaloa Cartel and we’ve acquired 4 WW2 era JU-87’s and I’ve been scouring for an instruction manual but this first person video is even better! You think you can do an instructional video on strafing vehicles? I had a pilot watch your video and do a practice run on a local newspaper distribution center and it worked out wonderfully. The only issue we had was the sirens on the plane alerted a few people and allowed them a brief moment to escape. Any input on how to silence these coyotes from howling?

@castor3020

2 жыл бұрын

Duct tape the sirens, that or zip ties work wonders on anything. Watch out for stray P-51's though, they will wreck your planes should they come across them.

I am so happy for this book, waiting for it;)

@MilitaryAviationHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I am excited as well :D

My Dad loved flying these.

this video does a good job on telling you the procedure, but never mentions "why the JU-87 was so accurate."

@milmex317th

2 жыл бұрын

Because of Farfignuton.

@BeachsideHank

2 жыл бұрын

@@milmex317th I creedisform that!

@milmex317th

2 жыл бұрын

@@BeachsideHank Dutchland uber alls.

@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo

2 жыл бұрын

All dive bombers are accurate.

You would have made a great Luftwaffe pilot Chris. Nice drop.

Lots of

Another great thing to listen to/watch while I process my own videos

so refreshing to see an ultrawide video

When the Ju-87 worked with the Panzers , they all had radios to direct them .

@RivetGardener

2 жыл бұрын

And they had cannon added too, which ripped the russian tanks to shreds. Many books on that subject, fascinating reads.

@dovahkiin2

2 жыл бұрын

@@RivetGardener can you recommend one?

Holy cow, a 21:9 video. Thanks for this gem!

Man, plopped it straight down the smokestack there.

@MilitaryAviationHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh, I was rather surprised at getting it right in the middle :) although part of me thinks showing the clip where I missed would have been better, near misses where a lot more common than hits ofc.

Fantastic description. Loved hearing this. It is not simple to dive-bomb with a Stuka. I thought it was just aim and drop!!

Il 2 and DCS are great looking simulators

Other planes: Must calculate our approach carefully. Stuka: DUDE FUCC DAT LEZ GO YOLOOOOOOOO *SIREN*

thanks for the video

Holy crap, I learned my first German word today! "Scheibenspulanlage". Now if I could only thing of a scenario where I would use my one German word.

You may have covered this somewhere else, if so I haven't got there yet, sorry: how does the Stuka's accuracy compare to other dive bombers of the time, such as the SBD and Val? If there is a significant difference, why is this?

"Why did Hans die in the war?" "He forgot to activate the defogger thing and flew into the Cliffs of Dover."

That was great! Thank you. Is there a way of comparing the accuracy of the Stuka vs the Dauntless vs the Val?

Hans-Ulrich Rudel - Germany's Most Decorated Ace had shot down nine Soviet aircraft with his Stuka, an incredible achievement for a dive bomber too.

@jbarninatus5898

2 жыл бұрын

That's was no surprise, outdated planes and lack of training....

@BeachsideHank

2 жыл бұрын

@@jbarninatus5898 An American Navy pilot (Swede Vejtasa) flying a Dauntless dive bomber shot down at least two Japanese Zeros during a dogfight no less, and purposely did a head- on collision with one; the heavily built Dauntless sheared part of the lighter Zero's wing off sending him spiraling into the ocean. No obsolete aircraft there and IJN pilots were some of the best trained aviators of the day.☺

I was under the impression that the Ju88 was literally designed as airborne artillery as in use in combined arms. It seems to me that it was extremely effective in this role.

When I was considerably younger I read a lot of aviation biographies- mostly German and Commonwealth fliers. I remember one of the fighter aces at some point flew Ju87s- I remember him telling of, how, after some confusion taxiing out to the ‘runway’ one Stuka chunked up the Stuka in front. Someone going too fast or too slow or something. Do you recall such an occurrence and who’s book. Not a trick question. College late in life kind of cured me of reading for pleasure.

@joebl0w67

2 жыл бұрын

Stuka Pilot by Hansen Ulrich Ridel is a great book. (autos Pell is infuriating )

@brianhilgenkamp2413

2 жыл бұрын

Erich Hartman. Germany's and the Worlds highest scoring ace with 352 Kills. after he finished training and assigned to the Russian front his group of pilots sent to Russia were told since they were going there to ferry some Stukas to the front lines. He was not familiar with the Stuka breaking system and taxied into the stuka in front of him. The CO of the base ordered the flight cancelled and had the rookies flown to the front in the back of a JU 52 and had some certified Stuka crews ferry the remaining aircraft to the front. I have a book about him. "the Blond Knight of Germany" by Toliver.

I read where the JU88 was used as a dive bomber for shipping and there was this one bomb they were trying out, I don't know if you'd call it a glide bomb or anti ship missle .This was off Italy, it was long ago so my info may be off but I believe it had wire attached and stubby wings but the bombardier would have like a joy stick to steer it. It must not have been good enough because I never heard any more about it but I think it hit it's target, a cargo ship.If it was a warship they'd probably get shot down.I don't know if this was a book written by Werner Baumbach or war footage.

@wolf310ii

2 жыл бұрын

You probaly mean the guided bomb Fritz X and the battleship Roma. There was also the guided glide bomb Hs293

Hammer! Vielen herzlichen Dank! :)

The official manual is one thing. Be assured that in theatre, crews found ways to optimize the abilities of the JU 87 which will be not found in any books but memories of those who flew her.

Great visuals to illustrate the narration. Late war against the USN, I could see why this type of attack was so dangerous for the IJN - that long of an approach would leave one extremely vulnerable to concentrated 5"/38 VT fused fire for an extended period of time. I have to imagine ditto if going up against US Army 90mm / UK equivalent AA guns. And never mind the Bofors once pushing over.

Answers the related question "how do you divebomb in a Stuka" rather than the question in the title. Still interesting but lacks the content that the title led me to expect.

I wonder who was the first pilot that cursed the fogging of the windows and sent in a recommendation for a window defogger. LOL At higher altitudes, it tends to be colder and much lower humidity. When diving, the plane enter warmer humid air, which naturally starts condensing on the cold windscreen .

Stukas were eaten alive by the Spitfires. A lumbersome, cumbersome shitty plane. But that siren was rad.Korda's book" With Wings Like Eagles" goes into great detail on how these planes were made, and how they stacked up against each other.

The Ju-87 B2, in IL-2 Cliffs of Dover, has a fully functioning automatic divebombing recovery system. In CloD & CloD Tobruk, the Stuka automatically releases the bomb(s), at the pre-programmed altitude, & recovers from the dive provided that the system is set up properly & switched. on in the cockpit. Weirder is divebombing in a Blenheim IV, where the procedure is to lower the undercarriage, prior to commencement of diving, because the air brakes are on the gear legs.

The problem with that methode against movin targets - during the dive, you have to flatten out the dive more and more, what results in forced a estimated lead with the droppoint. 6:06 Here we have a about 25° angel. The better way was, to overfly the target for an about -20° dive, half roll with strong rudder and line up. Now the dive becomes steeper and should be on the merge lead point about 10° - and thats perfect, because of the bomb repellent device, which lets the bomb fall into a 10 ° drop angle anyway - the propeller will thank you ...:) Furthermore, if you are attacking a defended target, you are now in the right direction to escape to your own lines...:)

Why The Ju 87 Stuka is so Accurate .... it had a good pilot roll credits!

It's wonderful that you modified the swastika on the tail of the aircraft. That way you don't hurt anyone's feelings with accurate history. If you do it long enough, everyone will forget about the swastika, the Nazis, and the terror they let loose on the world. Good job, Military Aviation Revised History.

@rawmd59

2 жыл бұрын

The swastika is illegal to reproduce in Germany. MARH has no desire for incarceration.

@vksasdgaming9472

2 жыл бұрын

Newsflash: German aircraft of WW2 did not have swastika as national emblem. Some of them did have them, but it was not their emblem. Don't know exact reason why tail had it. Finnish Air Force used swastika emblem and it's use predates existence of NSDAP.

@wolf310ii

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, let forget about history quickly, so we can repaet it soon, right?

@wolf310ii

2 жыл бұрын

@@rawmd59 No its not in this case, for art, education and history its allowed

@wolf310ii

2 жыл бұрын

@@vksasdgaming9472 All airplanes had the swastika on the tail

great video ty

Not something I ever thought I would need a lesson in, but thanks

Just doing some alternate history while in the subject of CAS planes- the Douglas skyraider seems to have been a plane that could have been flown in WWII and used WW2 tech. Do you think the sky raider would have been the best CAS in wwii considering its longevity being used even in Vietnam? It seems to have had a huge range, armor and payload. It was amazing for me to find out that a skyraider could carry 3600kg of bombs while a Lancaster heavy bomber could carry 6400kg of bombs - 2 skyraider could carry the bomb load as one Lancaster.

What flight simulator are you using to produce the demo vids? Excellent demo!

Great video! Do you happen to know the critical angle of attack of the JU 87?

Wow, that was really excellent. Do you know if there are any flying Stuka's around?

Years ago I read that Stukas, just before beginning their dive, would actually pull up on the stick to bleed off airspeed before commencing their dive. Your souce apparently says that they just pulled back on the throttle. Do you have any indication if pulling up was also used to slow the airspeed? That would seem to more quickly kill forward momentum than just allowing the plane to slow. It would also seem, that with a quicker momentum kill and change in attitude (nose up, then down), it would make the plane harder to hit with defensive fire or from attacking planes defending the target. Thoughts?

Hans Ulrich Rudel was one of the stuka pilots.

@dirkmoller5104

2 жыл бұрын

thank you sir

Does the rear gunner have other responsibilities, than being a rear gunner? Thank-you for the high-quality video, it is appreciated.

@wolf310ii

2 жыл бұрын

Radio operator and navigator

and thats why the JU87 was a sitting duck to ground fire, at the apex of its dive

Very interesting Video. I remember trying to attack tha Ganguts in St Petersburg/Kronstadt Harbour with a Stuka in IL2 many years ago without any input on how to do that :) I could do better now with this handy guide. Also nice to see that a russian destroyer is defending the Rodina at the white cliffs of Dover :)

@MilitaryAviationHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Hah, hope it helps in the future. It's the Kuban map though, did not want to try and break time and space for this one :)

@josephking6515

2 жыл бұрын

Actually it wasn't because it was *rushin'* home. 🤦‍♂️

I have a question about the 20mm cannons on the d5 Stuka. Why didn't the Germans make a higher velocity 20mm cannon for the stuka to make it more suitable for the ground attack role?