I don’t want macOS on my iPad, but I want iPadOS and iPad apps to be more capable. I think it is definitely possible to make the app really capable while having a touch-first interface, Serif done it with their Affinity suite so I believe it could be done. A lot of app developers (including Apple themselves) don’t really see iPad as a pro creating tool, but more of a pro consuming tool, and it shows in the app they created, just look at what Adobe has done with Photoshop for iPad. Final Cut Pro for iPad doesn’t even play along with Final Cut Pro for mac, you can only “hand it over to the mac”. And when the project sent to a mac, I lose the ability to use AI soundtrack and live drawing. My point is, I hope iPad could be more capable by itself, and I hope it work better with my mac. They don’t have to replace each other, they just work differently. I love my M2 iPad Pro and I really would love to work more on it, please let me.

@Realdaveromero

3 күн бұрын

You’re missing the point of a portable tablet like device. And the convenience of a portable computer like device. Two different tools. Computers are always going to be better at computer things that’s just where our technology is right now for another 20-30 years maybe. The human race moves slowly to adopt new ways of computing. Most of the older generation is used to using a mouse and keyboard. That’s why businesses and most systems use this traditional method of computing and why software developers are still making the best versions for this type of computer. iPads could be the next generation of computing and computers but it wouldn’t be adopted by most because it’s not familiar and requires learning curve and just doesn’t compare to this fast work style and flow they’ve created over decades already. So Apple keeps the iPad as a tablet and knows this demographic. People who need to manipulate content and creations on their huge advanced touch screen. If you use it as a Netflix device or try to do traditional computer work like editing videos it’s not going to be a very memorable device. But if you’re making digital art and animations with the Apple Pencil and using it as a MiDi controller for musicians or even digital art it shines. This device is the best in its category and that category your work might not be in there.. Does that make sense? Yes it can do a lot of things like edit videos and file mange but you’ll have to make compromises because it’s a touch based tablet. Made for drag and drop and other ways of doing things.

@jessemiller5635

3 күн бұрын

This is the most reasonable thing I’ve seen in this comment section. Nailed it

@vincentchou2252

3 күн бұрын

@@Realdaveromero thank you for taking time to respond, but I feel like there was a misunderstanding here. I don’t want my iPad to become a computer, I want my iPad to work better in an iPad-way, and I want iPad to work better with mac. Like I mentioned in the comment, I think it would be more interesting to use final cut if I can send the project to my mac for fast editing and send it back to my iPad (or just connect final cut for iPad to my mac) for AI soundtracks and live drawing. I understand that they are different tools and would perform better in different work, and I appreciate that. I enjoy working on iPad and I wish it would be more capable in its own way.

@Realdaveromero

2 күн бұрын

@@vincentchou2252 it does work well with Mac already! And Apple is working on a Mac version or Final Cut Pro right now with AI and a version that is more easily exchangeable with iPad Final Cut Pro projects it just takes time my friend. And the reason you can write on the screen with iPad Final Cut Pro is because it’s made for that and it’s made for a quick on the go version of video editing. If you have Final Cut Pro for Mac why would you want to use a quick option to write on the screen rather than use a professional font and font animations? Are you a professional video editor? What do you do for work?

@vincentchou2252

2 күн бұрын

@@Realdaveromero the reason live drawing is awesome is because it’s stylish, it makes your video unique with your own handwriting or drawing, which no existing font can provide. It is a creative choice. For most NLE on a traditional computer, it is a very time consuming process to achieve what live drawing on iPad can do in seconds, creators that have tried to pull this off on a traditional NLE would agree with me. It is not just for quickly putting words on the screen. It is called “Live Drawing” not “Live Writing”. Putting words on the screen through typing is not that hard and time consuming on iPad anyway, Apple did already support various fonts in FCP for iPad. This is actually the perfect example for what I mentioned in previous comments. The iPad is a great tool for the drawing part, and mac is a faster, more familiar editing experience. Just let iPad does what it does best and mac as well. Let them join forces and be great together. Don’t force me to use a traditional way that spends so many time, while iPad has live drawing but I just can’t access it if the project is already on my mac. As for the future updates you mentioned, they are not officially out yet so I can’t comment on them now. For now, it is just super hard for iPad to do what it does best to help the project once the project is sent to a mac. Also, if Apple really is developing updates that makes them work better together and can exchange projects, doesn’t that just prove my point? It is fine that you think there is nothing more to be desired for the iPad, good for you. But there are some people out there, hoping for an even better iPad experience because they love to work on their iPad so much. You don’t have to be so aggressive about it.

Absolutely wrong. The interview you showed is essentially marketing speak for “we don’t want the iPad and the Mac to have too many overlapping features because we want our costumers to buy both.” Apple has not been listening to us at all. The iPad, especially the Pro, is ridiculously expensive, and at such a heavy price point, there is no reason why the device should be lacking so many software features. People want macOS because it would immediately solve most if not all of the issues people have been complaining about for years. And yes, it would take some adjustment to allow it to be controlled via touch, but I think it 100% is necessary. Either that, or a full revamp of iPadOS is necessary. They say that the iPad is magical or whatever and can become anything, but I disagree because it’s software is so limiting that the only things is does best are watching media, gaming, and using the Apple Pencil. The hardware is world-class and it could become the magical product Apple says it is, but the iPad gets macOS or something similar, it will forever be an accessory device.

@nylotical

3 күн бұрын

Bro it literally is so dumb that iPadOS isn't more computer/mac-like because it's so powerful and now costs Macbook level amounts. Even with iPadOS being like a mac in this hypothetical, PEOPLE WOULD STILL BUY BOTH AS APPLE WANTS BECAUSE IPAD PROS ONLY HAVE THE BASE LEVEL CHIP AND LOW RAM! Mac sales are already constantly lowering. Instead of trying to encourage mac sales through stupid iPad bottlenecking, they should use iPad as a gateway to MacOS and replace the declining mac sales with ipad sales while making more updates to software that will be on both platforms, that way they can neglect ipads about as much without leaving customers without updates.

@xeon3081

3 күн бұрын

@@nylotical Exactly. I would still buy a Mac if the iPad had the software we all want. I just wouldn’t use it nearly as much, but I would definitely buy and own it for those times I do need a standard computer.

@DomainObject

3 күн бұрын

@xeon3081 is 💯% correct. I couldn’t have stated it any better. This video is basically Nikias towing the Apple party line instead of any actual real critical thought on the matter. He will be the first to herald the iPad as the “next coming” and post an “I was wrong” video when and if Apple does bring a macOS mode to the iPad.

@DomainObject

3 күн бұрын

@@xeon3081Yup. I would have an iPad for *all* my mobile computing needs and a Mac desktop for my higher end desktop computing needs. They’d still have a customer that owns both devices, but this time the customer would be happy. Rather than pissed off as I am now, with my gimped iPad that can only do big iPhone tasks, instead of small Mac tasks. So stupid.

@lypanov

Күн бұрын

They don't need to do *anything* other than simply open up the app store. That's it. Done. Us developers would resolve the remaining issues. Never going to happen though. I'll stick with Android.

dude , I have privilege to own samsung tab and ipad pro, and I never want a macOS on my iPad, its technically not possible. What I want is samsung dex like experience on my iPad. I want samsung dex on my apple ecosystem, if snapdragon 8 gen 2 is able to do that why M2 chip isn't ??? put dex like OS on ipad wont make people ditch their macbook, just like samsung dex doesn't make people replace their windows laptop. BTW stage manager is "Usable" but really annoying to deal with. I still really love apple ecosystem BUT they really have to revamp ipadOS. Better multi task and external monitor support, better file management system, and better 3rd party peripheral.

@Adorosa1024

3 күн бұрын

This should be the only comment. I would be fine if apple makes the stage manager better

@xeon3081

3 күн бұрын

If that works for you, that’s great, but others should be able to use their $1000+ device as they’d like without limiting software.

I think the biggest issue the ipad ran into was the introduction of the magic keyboard. I think people forget that it's meant to be an addition to the ipad not the accessory that flips it into a macbook. I personally don't use a magic keyboard for this reason. I have a wireless keyboard that I incorporate into my workflow when I'm home and at a desk but I use my ipad like a touch devise 75-80% of the time

@operabrotha5208

Күн бұрын

This is why the Smart Keyboard Folio continues to be the better keyboard for iPad. It’s more flexible, lighter, and also waterproof. And unlike the Magic Keyboard, you still feel like you are using a tablet computer and not some cosplay MacBook. I’ll never buy a Magic Keyboard again. I’d rather put that $350 towards a MacBook Air for when I need a full computer while on the go

@Realdaveromero

Күн бұрын

I think people also forget that iPhones are over $1,000. They say the iPad is so expensive we should be able to do more blah blah. But it’s bigger and has its own OS and accessories how inexpensive do you think it should be? It’s a revolutionary device. People will just always complain no matter what.

@AlanMitchellTech

14 сағат бұрын

@@RealdaveromeroExactly. I think that the nice thing about having an iPad is that when you need a laptop, you can attach a keyboard to it and when you need a notebook you can take it off and use the Apple Pencil. Obviously their is no right or wrong opinions on an iPad and if someone wants to have a desktop os on a tablet they should get a Surface Pro. But if you want a better touch screen experience, an iPad is also a good device and more apps are optomised on the iPad than on Android Tablets. And plus with a MacBook, you are stuck with the keyboard you get. But with an iPad, you can choose what keyboard you want to put on your device to make it more personal. And personally, all I do is use Microsoft Edge the on the iPad Pro, play games, study, and annotate. And I cannot onnotate on the HP laptop that I have with a stylus. And I use my the same way I use this iPad that I am typing on minus the annotating. For me, I don’t feel like getting a laptop over an iPad would benefit me that much.

I have both, MacBook and iPad, and they are complementary. I like my MacBook for the pro apps like Lightroom and Photoshop (I mean the real apps, not like these available on iPad), or FinalCut Pro and I like my iPad for the touch screen, and versatility of the device when you attached a keyboard.

It needs the ability to run any app you want, needs much better browsers, needs much better system file managers, the ability to run it with screen off and many other things it doesnt have.

@hugowells3052

2 күн бұрын

Easy to say when you’re not one of the engineers that actually has to deliver on that

@xeon3081

Күн бұрын

@@hugowells3052 Believe me the multi trillion dollar company can do it no sweat

I think the iPad with 2tb of storage should come with the option of arriving with macOS & other models stick with the iPad software. Apple would sell more iPads without effecting MacBook sales if they did it that way.

@xeon3081

3 күн бұрын

That’s ridiculous. Why on earth would you need 2tb of storage to run a normal desktop software?

@Supcessful

2 күн бұрын

@@xeon3081 You’re not in sales clearly, the 1tb models come with more Ram so i guess MacOs could start at the 1tb models and 2tb for those who need more storage space. But knowing Apple if they did this they would only offer it on the bigger models 1st than the smaller iPad models the next time around. Or possibly sell it as a $100 add on after purchase for the 1-2tb models only.

@xeon3081

2 күн бұрын

@@Supcessful That makes no sense. Macs that have 8GB of RAM have ran macOS perfectly fine forever. Seems to me that as a 2tb iPad owner you’re looking to justify your spending by locking others out of software that the device is clearly capable of running with no hiccups.

@Supcessful

2 күн бұрын

@@xeon3081 That’s how Apple would do it if they did give us Mac on the iPad it would be a Premium feature for only the Bigger iPad with the larger Storage and Ram. Than they would add it too the smaller iPad Pro the year after. & finally after a year or two all iPad Pro’s will have the choice to have it come with their iPads as a $189 add on feature & shortly after MacBooks would just become the future iPad & than the mark of the beast happens a year after & if u don’t accept it you’ll become uncompetitive to the people who take it. Dur

iPad don’t need macOS It needs full Mac apps

You are 100% right.

Another great and thoughtful video. I’ve been using my iPad Pro as my mobile device since 2015 and my iMac as my desktop work horse. Cloud file management and apps that are constantly updated to take advantage of new iOS/iPadOS features make all the difference

Hello there, I bought the iPad Pro 2024 model 13’’. And i totally agree with you, i want the file management to work better, like switching between apps and minimize/full screen like a laptop.. and the apps like Final Cut and logic to be more optimized for the pro because after all we got a M4 chip in the pro line-up. But I’m enjoying drawing on my screen, and making some basic beats for now .. hoping i can fully enjoy the possibility’s and workflow in the nearby future with improved IpadOS.

Absolutely spot on review Nikias. I’m fortunate that my M4 iPad Pro does everything that I need and is my ‘only computer’ and I love it. It’s used every day and I perfect for my needs. I can’t understand why people keep complaining that an iPad isn’t a Mac! If you need a Mac then buy one, if you like the iPad then….buy one. Good vid, thank you 🙏.

Great video ❤ I totally agree and I use both in different Capacity and love it

I just want a Macbook air with Oled and 120hz.

I love this amazing video so much and keep it up

Why not having the option to have macOS for those who need it. I've used my iPad as an extension of my mac display and interacted with macOS on my ipad screen using the apple pencil. It was great and very useful.

@xeon3081

3 күн бұрын

Exactly. If they really wanted the iPad to be a magical piece of glass, they would allow this. Let’s face it: he is only echoing what Apple says. Believe me, if Apple changed their mind one day and allowed macOS on the iPad the exact way he’s describing how it wouldn’t work, he would have a video up within hours talking about how great it was.

We need the Instagram app for the iPad

Great video Nikias. I think so many people in the tech world try to paint this picture that the iPad needs to do more because it needs to fit their needs. But the truth is, the iPad was not made for the workflow of many tech reviewers. It was made for students, musicians, artists, doctors, pilots - the sort of professionals that need extreme mobility and the sandboxed nature of iPadOS. MacOS on the iPad would simply slow down their workflow and make for a more complicated experience. I myself am a musician, with both an iPad and MacBook. I reach for the iPad 9/10 for live music mixing, creating/reading charts, and even editing videos because everything is just so easy. Like you said, macOS is not made for touch and would slow down the artistic process for me and so many others. I agree 100%.

Totally agree with you.

Mac OS is needed on the iPad when the touch screen comes to the Mac. I would like a bit more flexible Files app. I would like to select a file in the Files app and have it launch its related app. So if I click on a html file, Safari would launch and load the file I clicked on.

Saving this along with other bangers like “why you don’t need to be rich” and “dying is actually kind of cool”

I completely agree. Two different products for two different uses.

The only reason the iPad doesn't have Mac os is because of money. By creating clear boundaries they force most customers to buy them both. We need to stop acting like apple cares about it's customers. They are a million o billion dollar company. Just like any other successful company, there's only one thing they care about $$$. Just like every other company. Nothing more to it.

@andyH_England

2 күн бұрын

Nonsense. Microsoft took your advice with W8 and attempted to become the leading tablet maker by making a desktop OS hybrid. That was a cataclysmic error of judgment, leading to MS becoming irrelevant in the tablet market and losing billions. No sensible company would try and repeat that disaster.

Totally agree with your perspective. Replacing iPad OS with MacOs would remove everything thing that makes the iPad a standalone tablet. Like you said MacOS is not a touch based interface and I don’t see interacting with it as such as an enjoyable experience. Perhaps what people want is the capability of the iPad to run MacOS apps when needed and better multitasking capability, but not necessarily replace iPad OS with MacOS.

For some of us it isn't necessarily the price but the convenience of being able to dual boot MAC OS on an ipad to run features that ONLY MAC can do. It will be nice to not have to figure out if I need to bring my ipad or mac or both for certain projects when I am on the go. I can do it all with one device.

@andyH_England

2 күн бұрын

Even though Apple will never allow it for very obvious reasons (see my post), that does not mean macOS developers would allow their apps to be used on an iPad. If you take the example of iPad apps on macOS, around 95%+ of them the devs said no.

Awesome videos sorry I’m sooo late

iPadOS needs to fix audio sources stopping each other. When I’m playing a KZread video and the website I’m scrolling stops my audio for an ad video is annoying. Mac doesn’t have that issue but I don’t touch my mac.

I think you are right, I always wonder why people talk about mac os and keyboards with shortcuts etc. Go buy a computer when you need all that, why look at a tablet in the first place. I know the limitations but I like the convenience of a tablet and I am used to the whole IOS system. It gets the job done, that is the most important thing.

I just hope they bring back the headphone jack to mobile devices and internal dvd drives to macs. 😢

I love the ipad for ipad apps, I love the mac for mac apps. I love to see the future of the two merge and allow a dual boot so that I can do both on ONE device vs TWO. I would even pay more for this to happen since apple is afraid of losing additional income. (I love apple) BUT, I would pay the ridiculously overpriced fee of extra storage if I can do everything on one device. I KNOW an ipad can do everything a Mac can do and like you said they are different. That is why we need a dual boot option on ONE device and not having to do it on 2 separate devices. Surface Pro is inferior but they are catching up to what the ipad NEEDS to be... Both a mac and ipad.

personally i disagree: ithink a dual boot mode would be great! Alternatively, the mac could totally get a touch screen: when i use windows laptops i dont like the system but i really really enjoy being able to scroll with my fingers! I wish i could do the same on the 15 mba! Last, when i see the hardware and MK of the m4 ipp, it is such a shame we cannot load a full macos and hook it up to external displays :(

fax!

It’s always infuriating when people ask for macOS in iPad. If you want Mac laptop get yourself a Mac laptop. You will even save money.

it should or it must , as it does not support ide like intellij

I don’t necessarily want macOS on my iPad, I just want a better iPadOS. When I would rather grab my Mac just to move a few files around to different folders because it’s easier on macOS, then something is wrong.

I don’t want MacOS on my iPad Pro. I like having a more focused work environment that iPadOS offers. It’s just far more minimal and less distracting than a Mac. If you take this to the extreme, you can make a ‘dumb iPad’ and lock it down. You can’t create a ‘dumb Mac’ because you have complete control over the root of the device.

If an iPad user wants a more pro file manager, then just download filebrowser pro from the app store. Also there is an element of user education as well, the built in files app is far more capable than people think. I agree a touch first device should have a touch first OS, and a desktop device should have a desktop OS… If you mix the two, that’s when you get a hideous Windows 8 user experience! You clearly get it ;)

Hot take here: I actually prefer the iPad desk setup over the Mac. It seems to me that iPadOS renders text and images better on external monitors than macOS; they are less pixelated. Also, the floating app windows combined with fluid animation make the whole experience more futuristic. I feel like iPadOS looks better than macOS.

I agree with you Nikias. Apple has always said, from its launch, that the iPad is meant to be a companion device to a MacBook Pro. And there's no way Apple is going to cannibalize their MBP sales. To be clear though, I would not buy the new iPad Pro 13 to be a companion device, it's too expensive to be used that way. My current combination is the M3 Pro MBP 14 and the M1 iPad Air, both base models. Neither is top of the line but for me they are the perfect combination, for my use case and my wallet 🙂.

I agree Ipads do not need MacOs, but they do need Finder file management is appaling if you are using an Ipad for more ‘pro’ activities.

Nikias in less 10 minutes explain really how iPad Pro and iPadOS must will improve. Yes, we don’t need macOS but we need a pro file management system like macOS. That’s it! And of course more Pro Apps such as Affinity suite, Shapr3D and more.

It would be really weird to control macOS with your fingers. It just wouldn’t work

@timtim3582

3 күн бұрын

The ipad can have both, look samsung dex exist since 8/9 years and you can swith from tablet os to computer os in one click. Apple could fo this but wont because Money

@jessemiller5635

3 күн бұрын

@@timtim3582 doesn’t mean they did it well. I do partially agree with u: apples reason is definitely money but also it would have to be a tweaked version of macOS or they should just make iOS a more desktop like OS

Tbh, I don’t think it should get macOS, but it’s also a bad idea to have an iOS based operational system for a device with so much power like the iPad. I’d say the best idea would be creating a system optimized for touch screen based on macOS, or just creating a desktop mode just like Samsung does with their tablets and phones (Dex mode idk the name exactly). iPad multitasking sucks, I hate the limited scale and movement of the apps.

Be nice if they allowed proper mirroring from Mac to iPad like the new iPhone to Mac.

it kinda dont, but it kinda needs... The OS is too limited and most pro apps lacks functions. The best world would be one that you either need a mac or an ipad, not both.

I think iPad OS should evolve to behave a lot more like macOS, e.g. introducing a full-fledged filesystem and window management system (e.g. expose and multiple desktops). That doesn't mean that iPad needs to support macOS, but it should become a lot more capable and take inspiration from macOS.

@andyH_England

2 күн бұрын

It uses sandboxing as a security measure, so iPadOS will never have a macOS file system. Stage Manager is a solid windows management system.

@jacopoalberto

Күн бұрын

@@andyH_England I respectfully disagree. I think a better file system can be developed and I hate using stage manager.

iPadOS needs to be worth the price tag of the expensive iPad. Right now it is a bigger version of iOS which is unacceptable.

All they need to do is to allow virtualization on iPadOS and Apple silicon chips. We will do the rest.

I think Apple will put a Mac-like OS in iPad someday, but only when MacBook experienced a severe decline in sales. Otherwise it'll just steal business from its own house.

@AdamAdam-vu3qt

3 күн бұрын

or what they could do is have a new line of ipads that run Mac OS and charge an additional 1000 dollar premium to cover the lost sale in a macbook.

@nylotical

3 күн бұрын

You mean... right now? Because them sales ain't rising much...

@andyH_England

2 күн бұрын

Yes, I agree, it is the last resort if you are sinking in this competitive PC market. At the moment it works well, and no reason to change for changesake.

@AdamAdam-vu3qt

2 күн бұрын

@@andyH_England yes there is reason. The surface pro already does both. You sound like someone that never graduated college. I bet I’m correct.

@andyH_England

2 күн бұрын

@@AdamAdam-vu3qt The Surface Pro is in decline sales-wise and has less than 2% of the market. I suspect few companies believe that that is a success and are willing to follow it. I was at university, but due to the loss of my father, I had to take over the family business with my brother. So, I did not graduate, so you are correct.

I think it’s kinda weird that the Mac is more for work and the iPad is more for entertainment and yet the Mac has more of an entertainment aspect ratio then the iPad has. The iPad should have the wider screen if it’s more for entertainment.

Both the iPad and the Mac are general purpose computers. They are not the same type of general purpose computer. I refer to the Mac as a conventional general purpose computer. The iPad is most definitely an unconventional computing device. It is different, idiosyncratic, atypical and all but eccentric. It still, however, a computer. A bicycle for the mind as Steve Jobs once described computers. I still use my analogy of transportation devices. Think of the Mac and the iPad as transportation devices. The Mac is like a Toyota SUV. The iPad is like a BMW Motorcycle. They are both vehicles, just as Mac and iPad are both computers. Ultimately the SUV is far more powerful than the motorcycle in terms of what it can do, but some people only need and prefer the motorcycle. Some people buy both, and use the one they need at the moment. Now think about what a motorcycle would look like if you tried to make it comparable in features to an SUV.

I think the iPad is perfectly fine on iPad OS. If you want a Mac OS experience, get a MacBook. iPad OS is great for touch screen use and note taking with the Apple Pencil. And there are things that the Mac can't do that the iPad can do like drawing and taking handwritten notes. And for casual web browsing, it is perfectly fine to use, and I never have more than two windows on the iPad screen ore my laptop screen. Apps on the iPad are perfectly optimized for the Apple Pencil and a big touch screen unlike an Android ablet that normally has big stretched out phone apps. And if you have a Mac or Windows laptop, why do you need a desktop os on a tablet?

Nikiaaas 😃

iPadOS does not use the full potential of the hardware. iPad could replace the MacBook with a touch friendly MacOS but Apple doesn’t want it to get in the way of MacBook sales. So with the iPad you’re paying for an unnecessary spec of expensive hardware severely limited by software.

iPad should not be used with keyboard and build expectations and subsequent frustrations

@justbeingadad2599

3 күн бұрын

That my biggest frustration. It sucks when coursing the keyboard and then you have to touch the screen because the app isn't reading the pointer.

I don't care about the OS. It's fine on its own. I only care about the Apps that I use on Mac Desktop that do not get the same functions on the iPad (ehh Adobe please).

Even the ex-MS CEO stated that merging tablets and desktops cost them billions and was one of the worst decisions ever. He even said that Apple would be dumb to try it as well. Even ignoring that MS failed miserably, we have far larger problems from 11-inch iPads needing to be more usable with macOS without a major overhaul. We have the issue that 90% of iPad Pros have only 8GB of RAM, which would not even be close to running pro-MacOS apps. Also, iPadOS being sandboxed means its file system can never emulate macOS. MacOS is not a TouchUI OS and would be horrible. Only one port makes it very restrictive. Less battery life. No fans, meaning any intensive workflow will take much longer. Only the base chip, so it's not even a "pro" chip. Sadly, those here suggesting it should run macOS are not looking at the bigger picture and the road bumps. That is before even Apple looks at a business model where they compete against their products by making people choose between iPad and a Mac; a business no-no in a competitive market like tech. It will never happen, and it is the only sensible outcome. Ask Microsoft, now nobody in the tablet market because they listened to random people on YT wanting a hybrid!

Maybe Apple makes more profit selling two separate items instead of only one. And a lot of people (me included) fall for it all the time. They boost marketing to the highest level. We all should think more aboout what we really need and less about having the entire ecosystem.

iPad needs a cleaner iPadOS where things actually work the way they should. It's way too buggy. If your on KZread screen sizing is disgusting and then there are times when you can't minimize or full screen unless you touch the screen instead of using the ugly round pointer. Screen mirroring is buggy, File management is trash. I love my iPad, I just wish things just worked as smooth as it should when using the Magic Keyboard. A Dex version on iPad is not difficult to for them to make. Like he said..."people buy both" .... they are not trying to lose money to give us something that makes sense.

@andyH_England

2 күн бұрын

DeX is a copy-and-paste Windows UI with little thought. Stage Manager is a different take, but as with most new things, users need to take time to get used to it because of what has come before.

@justbeingadad2599

2 күн бұрын

@@andyH_England I’ve been using iPad exclusively since the 4th gen 12.9. Upgraded to the M1, then M2 and now the M4. I bought my first laptop ever this year 15 inch M3 air. After suing Mac OS for a month I was clearly able to see all the flaws that iPadOS has. Stage manager is not good at all. I don’t think MacOS is the way for the iPad but the user experience going from IPad to “laptop mode” with the Magic Keyboard is the problem. Apps have too many issues. If you only use apple native apps like pages, notes, numbers etc. it works great, Once you start adding third party apps the iPad suffers as a “laptop”

@andyH_England

2 күн бұрын

@@justbeingadad2599 I agree. That is why I bought into the psychology that having an iPad and a Macbook is the ultimate solution with no compromises. The iPad does tablet stuff well, but for the same reason, I would never use a Galaxy Tab S9 for much of my workflow; I would not use my iPad and instead, I use the Mac for office and "pro" desktop stuff.

@justbeingadad2599

2 күн бұрын

@@andyH_England lmao i did too. I love using both of them. I no longer fight Apple, I just buy all of their stuff lmao. One thing is true tho if the MB Air had cellular and a card slot my life would be complete.

I totally agree with you Nikias! An iPad is a tablet and a MacBook is a laptop aka a portable computer. A computer is still going to be better and computer things. And yes a tablet now has a powerful chip but it’s mainly for the artists, the 3D rendering digital creators and the musicians. Anyone using the advanced intimate touch based display as it should be. Manipulating your creation with this magical piece of glass. That’s the intended pro user for this device. If you’re just editing videos and managing files. Get a MacBook my dude. We have to be the smart ones here people. Use the tool that best suits your work case scenario. Or else youll just look dumb using the wrong tool for the wrong job and then complaining about it. I use the iPad Pro as my main device doing design and 3D sculpting. It’s a sidekick to my Mac and is awesome for digital art I also do (and I use tons of layers, which needs graphic and computing power for more layers). I would never try to edit a professional video on an iPad (even tho you can) it’s just designed for other purposes. Yes Apple blurs the line with the iPad and MacBook but that’s just an additional accessory and add on to an already amazing tablet. It’s not required or necessary to get the most out of the IPad Pro if you’re using it the right way. I hope that helped clear things up for people confused about apples decisions. And don’t call Nikias an Apple fanboy or that he sold his soul to Apple. Apple has THE BEST designers, engineers and software developers in the world. And Nikkias does a great job of highlighting what Apple makes great but also gives criticism when deserved. I also give Apple a huge amount of respect and praise because of their victories and how the world is using their products right now. Give them more credit and try to envision their vision of a world where the iPad and the Mac can exist separately and actually they can co exist together and when you do use them together it’s pretty magical.

@xeon3081

Күн бұрын

If that works for you and is your use case, great. What about people who really think the iPad has the capacity to be the computer of the future - a spectacular computer, tablet, and notebook in one thin and light package. If Apple would just unlock the software by allowing macOS when it is paired with a keyboard and trackpad (obviously with optimizations to make it work with touch) the iPad could be an all-in-one package that works for every type of user - from one who checks their email and creates power point to an advanced content creator or artist. But its software is so limiting that even typing a google doc is way less stress-free on my MacBook than my iPad. I want to be able to use my iPad for that stuff because it would be so much more convenient. The iPad right now is an accessory device - and if you want it to stay that way because it works for you, great - but why not allow power users who see its potential to use their iPad as they’d like.

@Realdaveromero

Күн бұрын

@@xeon3081 I am a power user and use it to make a living. You just want a laptop where you can touch the screen. Not really the vision of a great tech company. And it already does all the things you’ve mentioned. But if you want good touch software you have to compromise and use touch features like drag and drop and lose the keyboard commands.. If you’ve ever had both and use them together you’d understand they’re great together and great by themselves and separately. They do things one other can’t and then are great when they come together. You’re just not doing them justice with your basic day to day tasks most likely. Because the software is not “limiting” at all the way I use my iPad Pro. And again I make a living off of it. What type of tasks does it do or not do for you??

@Realdaveromero

Күн бұрын

@@xeon3081 and how is typing a google doc more convenient on an iPad than a MacBook? That makes no sense. lol if you have a keyboard it’s the exact same. And if you don’t. It’s way easier on a MacBook. Apple didn’t intend for the iPad to be a device where you’re typing away making documents all the time. It’s a device to touch the screen and create things with. Have you not watched any Apple keynotes and all the amazing things doctors, musicians, animation studios, all these amazing creators that use the iPad Pro. You’re missing the point entirely my friend.

@xeon3081

Күн бұрын

@@Realdaveromero Because even though apple likes to say the iPad has “desktop class browsing” it doesn’t and many sites are a lot less functional on iPad than Mac. Listen, it doesn’t matter what the iPad is “intended” for. The iPad is capable of so much that there shouldn’t really be things it can’t do (within reason obviously.) I don’t care what your imagined “ideal use case” for iPad is. It should be versatile and able to adapt to many use cases without the software making the experience worse than on Mac when it shouldn’t be. Why should the software on iPads be worsened purposefully? I’m arguing for the software to be unlocked so it works best not just for your use cases for everyone else also.

@Realdaveromero

Күн бұрын

@@xeon3081 for everyone else they made this thing called a MacBook. Try it out. You’ll never complain again. If you want to draw every now and then. Get an iPad mini to draw.

how much did apple pay u to say this crap man lmao. MacOS is clearly superior than iPadOS in almost every way. iPad Pro is perfectly capable of running MacOS. The only thing stopping apple to let that happen is their greed. You as a tech creator should be more honest and not feed into their marketing narrative man. disappointed.

@andyH_England

2 күн бұрын

Apple does not do it for the same reason Samsung does not allow dual-boot of Windows on their $1400 Galaxy Tab S9 Ultra; that it would be competing against themselves and in business, that is as dumb as you can get. The shareholders would be astonished by any incompetence like that.

@cheesyfries7926

2 күн бұрын

@@andyH_England i'm not sure that's the same case man. Tab S9U use SD8 G2 which imo isn't powerful enough to run windows smoothly. but iPad does have M4 which is even more raw power than my M1 macbook air.

MacOS instead of iPadOS on an iPad would suck because - MacOS is not optimised for touch - it would kill any incentive for devs to create touch apps for the iPad.

@timtim3582

3 күн бұрын

The ipad could have both, look samsung dex exist since 8/9 years and you can switch from tablet os to computer os in one click. Apple could do this but wont because Money

@andyH_England

2 күн бұрын

@@timtim3582 DeX is a bad example, as it still runs Android apps even when switched to a copycat Windows UI.

@xeon3081

2 күн бұрын

Then optimize mac for touch. The multi-trillion dollar company could do it easily if they wanted.

Why did bro meet with the people like he was in an action movie 💀

Yes I get it he doesn’t want to say anything bad about Apple because it will make him lose his seat to be invited in any Apple WWDC conferences. But also he would lose his viewers too with his constant biased reviews. So ultimately it’s a trade off, which do you want to lose? Your trust with your viewers or with Apple? It’s a hard choice….

People just want the iPad, to be capable to do all the workflow at the office, like the MacBook can do. The iPad is to much focused on entertainment, and people actually want to take there iPad to the office too, and work on it

The idea is to have everything. An Apple Watch, iPhone Pro every year, iPad Pro, MacBook Pro and Vision Pro. All being replaced at least every two years. That’s what makes Apple a Trillion dollars in revenue. Way to go. Writing this on an iPad Pro M4, because I give a fuck.

Im wondering why his mic is so fucking shit when his on the go mic is way better

It’s funny all the complainers think they’re some majority of buyers. Yall are just the loudest and most annoying. Most actual “Pro Users” using the iPad Pro. Love it. Myself included. I do digital marketing and 3D animation for real-estate and it’s my only choice for creative work. Anything else. I love my Mac. It’s using the right tool for the right job. But complainers ‘want it all’- boo hoo. Buy a MacBook shut up.

I don’t care what you think about the iPad. The files app not functioning properly for the past 5 years is inexcusable

@andyH_England

2 күн бұрын

It is not perfect, but is the unintentional consequence of sandboxing. Unless Apple revisits its foundation software that would be a big ask, bearing in mind, the Pro line is only a small percentage of iPad sales.

I agree that MacOS doesn’t belong in the iPad but iPadOS should be much more than a glorified iOS, at least for the iPad Pro

No one cares about MacOS but people do want iPadOS to be better

Apple products used to be best in UI during jobs… now with no jobs we have nice highly capable devices but the ui has lost its marvel. Ecosystem based products and seamless integration cross platforms was only apple’s forte. Now even Samsung has started that. So there is nothing new in what Apple is doing now. Plus in focusing only on AI, it forgot to give some primary and most basic feature enhancements which the customer is longing for and has to wait another year for i. This customer has a device which is as capable as the laptop from the hardware standpoint (price is not the only factor it is the device’s capability which is heavily underutilised as there is no capable software) is very frustrated as Apple didn’t give what they were expected to give. Hope it clears why people are so angry and calling you out for doing Apple propaganda

Let’s face the simple commercial fact, Apple wants to sell you both the IPad and the MacBook, stop telling that the touchscreen has something to do with it or other blah blah blah, people just want to use the IPad as a workhorse, just like the MacBook, and Apple wants people to use the iPad as a entertainment machine and platform.

Those pro apps on iPad aren’t as pro as on the Mac. No, the iPad don’t need MacOS when used in the hands. But when docked it would be nice to have the option to choose to use it as a laptop with MacOS. Simple as that. If Apple had their users more in mind than money they would give it to us. They want us to buy both so the iPad will not get it. This sounded like Apple propaganda. With those iPad Pro prices it needs more pro software like on the Mac. Then other iPad models can be without the option to rum MacOS when docked. The iPad Pros are MacBook prices.

@andyH_England

2 күн бұрын

Just do what I do--buy both. None of this analysis; is the best of both worlds! It is easy.

@xeon3081

2 күн бұрын

@@andyH_England People are looking for the iPad to be an all in one device. I have both but would much rather be able to get most of my work done on my ipad instead of having to switch.

@xeon3081

2 күн бұрын

It’s a joke to even call them pro apps.

i honestly agree. Imagine macOS in an iPad it won't make science and it would look weird.

@timtim3582

3 күн бұрын

The ipad can have both, look samsung dex exist since 8/9 years and you can switch from tablet os to computer os in one click. Apple could do this but wont because Money

Hard disagree. It should have it period. If the MacBook Air can have it then it could easily have it.

@andyH_England

2 күн бұрын

Then, should the $1400 Galaxy Tab S9 have Windows as a dual-boot? I never see complainers like you say the same about Android. One rule for Apple and one for Andorid. It sounds like you are a hater and are simply posting to flex on Apple.

Give CONSUMERS the choice !!! Apple is just afraid that giving consumers options will severely decrease either the Ipad or Mac $$ sales $$. Please STOP with the BS about different user types.

Your controversial headline

I honestly agree with you and Apple. Everyone is tryna change too much into tech and they don’t know what they want. It’s simple a phone, tablet and a computer. Whether you prefer a laptop or a desktop, it’s phone, tablet, computer.

@xeon3081

2 күн бұрын

Great if that works for you, but plenty of users have shown interest in running macos on their iPads. Why not let them? The device is ridiculously expensive and its hardware has been able to handle it for years.

@soignesuave1

2 күн бұрын

@@xeon3081 cause other markets still produce laptops and tablets. If I place ditch my entire iPadOS software for MacOS software you wouldn’t purchase a Mac. I lose market percentage to HP, Lenovo etc. Now when it comes to pricing I can defend you there. Stabilize the price to be in between an iPhone and MacBook. However, what would you really do on an iPad running macOS? lol

I have never seen shittier reasons for the topic L video hard disagree And this guy definitely knows what he is doing

You are doing A LOT. This is propaganda. Especially for these prices. The iPad doesn’t do nearly enough. iPads are nice for writing and things on the go and that’s it.

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Apple are never going to put MacOS on the iPad, so can we just stop this overdone narrative already. If you want macOS, buy a bloody Mac.

Why is everyone asking for a Mac on an iPad? Buy a damn Mac!

@lypanov

Күн бұрын

Will you buy it for me please? Most people have to make a choice. Happy you're wealthy enough that's not the case.

He is not a reviewer, he’s an apple marketing propagandist. Disgusting.

/e pin

Wrong. Nice apple propaganda.

@mr.dude1338

3 күн бұрын

what do you know 😂

@aldomacias361

3 күн бұрын

@@mr.dude1338 more than you sheep.

@Isengardtom

3 күн бұрын

No, you’re wrong

@xeon3081

3 күн бұрын

Said it perfectly. He sucks up to Apple so much. It’s disgusting how him and a few others can be so ignorant to so many issues on such an expensive device. No, you’re wrong for telling me how I should and shouldn’t be able to use my $1000+ device, then telling me it is a magical piece of glass or whatever bs when its software is so limiting for no justifiable reason whatsoever.

@aldomacias361

3 күн бұрын

@xeon3081 mkbhd did it too.

Apple Propaganda, I want MacOS on an iPad.

"Why a superficial guy like Nikias doesn't need macOS"

Except nakias samsung dex exist since 8/9years … ipad could have both. Ipad os when you use your fingers/pens AND THEN you go on your desk, press the « Apple dex » button and BAM you have mac os. Switching between mac os and ipad os in one click like with samsung dex. But apple wont do it because … money.

@andyH_England

2 күн бұрын

What are you talking about? DeX is simply an alternative UI. You don't press the DeX button and start running Windows on your Galaxy Tab; you are still using Android apps. Apple had Stage Manager, which is an alternative UI.

@timtim3582

2 күн бұрын

@@andyH_England 1) i never talked about windows in my comment. Nice invention. 2 - yes you just press the dex button, not physical, digital in the control center. 3) The ipad since the M1 processor yes can run both os. Try harder next time fan boy 😘

Samsung dex … Apple ONLY reason to not have macos on the ipad is MONEY. Samsung had samsung dex for the past 8/9years. So it s not what is the best, macos or ipados, it s you could have both but apple don t want because MONEY, wanting to sell a ipad and a mac for some people. When we could have a ipad pro with ipados when you use it with your fingers/pen, then i want to write a email, go to my desk, press the « APPLE DEX » et voila i m in macos. Samsung is doing that for the past 8/9years but Apple cant ?.. sure