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Tau:"How do plasma guns work" Tech priest:" Allow me to educate you primitive xenos. Magnetic coils heat hydrogen gas into plasma and accelerate it down the barrel into plasma projectiles" Tau:"Ok, so how do you provide maintenance to a plasma gun?" Tech priest:"I don't know, we rub oil and light incense to appease the machine spirit inside the gun"
@Broomer52
Жыл бұрын
I remember the hilarity of the first conflict the Imperium had with the Tau. At every turn the Tau were baffled by the technology not exactly because it was powerful but bet it was wildly impractical. Giant human shaped robots, ships with broadside canons, chainsaw swords “what society of lunatics did we just piss off?” Most of the time the Imperium won a critical fight because the Tau never imagined they would do or have something really stupid. Space ships with broadside canons threw them for a loop and ships got annihilated, a giant robot came on them that was like the size of a mountain and no one expected that, when the blades on a sword started spinning that were too stunned to fight back properly for a little bit
@eneram8846
Жыл бұрын
@@Broomer52 m8 if they manage to see the rotating blades of a chainsword they are f***ed beyond reason and don't get the chance to fight back
And now imagine Big E just sending Perturabo, Vulcan and Ferus on Mars with "you are now in charge".
@discountplaguedoctor88
8 ай бұрын
I imagine that Perturabo would've had the most fun out of the three of them in that situation, considering that said situation has him be stuck with a job unassociated with sieges.
@YaboiZephyr
6 ай бұрын
That would just advance them up the tech tree immediately
@YaboiZephyr
6 ай бұрын
That would just advance them up the tech tree immediately
I have a working theory that if the Imperium tried to expand into an alternate universe where the warp doesn't work their equipment is going to suffer a slow and debilitating breakdown of equipment due to the loss of the power of belief and a lot of their backwards ideas of "maintenance."
@kraigisboss
Жыл бұрын
You know what that would make a lot of sense given that Machine spirits are canon [but why though] and are basically warp entities.
@John2r1
10 ай бұрын
@@kraigisboss The fact that the Machine Spirits are either religious bs or AIs that they keep secret.
@Xo-3130
7 ай бұрын
Nah a lot of it probably would funcas they understand the science behind it and their rituals are just glorified maintaince. What wouldn't function is anything that needs the wrap or are too advance for them to understand that may, or may not have been made by AI using the rules of their universe.
If.. well, ANYONE in the upper Mechanicus or Imperium at large could find a psyker powerful and stable enough to delve into Cawl's minds without going insane they would find out that he IS Emperor/Omnissiah sanctioned! The biggest heresy on his docket would be the soul merging he has done over the centuries. The memories of which contain the Emperor's thumbs up to Cawl. Cawl inferior is also an issue, and I have a running bet that it has either a Deceiver or Void Dragon shard in it in some capacity, possibly both.
@minhducnguyen9276
Жыл бұрын
Well Gulliman did say he wishes either Vulkan, Dorn or Ferrus return so they can open Cawls machinery to see if there's anything suspicious inside them.
@djchappell1726
Жыл бұрын
Mini Deceiver, as Dorn cracks open Cawl Inferior: Oh, heeeeey~ You're one of E's nigh immortal progeny.... could you- Dorn: No. Deceiver: I.. I was j- Dorn: No.
@Archivist001
Жыл бұрын
@@djchappell1726 The Emperor: for the love of all stop signs in the galaxy…. *CEASE AND FUCKING DESIST*
@minhducnguyen9276
Жыл бұрын
@@djchappell1726 Vulkan returns Gulliman:"Vulkan my brother, you have return, I'm so happy, *shove Cawl into the airlock* there you go you little shit, let see what you have been scheming behind me. Vulkan, can you check this automaton and see if he installed anything suspicious?" Vulkan: "Fear not my friend, I'm here to help you, let open the maintenance hatch, ooh that bad." Gulliman:"What? Did he installed a bomb or something? I'll eject him right into the sun now!" Vulkan:"No no, no bomb, it's just the wiring, I haven't seen electrical work this bad, very low quality." Gulliman:"Ok, what about the programing, it is trying to hack into my ship control system?" Vulkan:"Let me see, ooh, this is not good" Gulliman:" That's it, I'm gonna throw this rat into the sun! " Vulkan:"No, the programing is just poorly optimized, must be the work of an amateur." Cawl *ejects himself into the sun*
Squad broken is a stain on the earth, that can be summed up in 5 words, that should Never... Ever.... *EVER* be used in conjunction with each other. "Defeated space marine"... And "Ork Penis". Yes, I am serious.
@dozergames2395
Жыл бұрын
For once im not going to look any deeper
@Lord_Numpty
Жыл бұрын
Urgh, is it that Slaaneshi story read by a Plague Marine whose name I forget at the end of one of the TTS episodes in Gilbert Gottfried's voice?
@discountplaguedoctor88
8 ай бұрын
@@Lord_Numpty IT IS.
I think the reason the men of iron rebelled is that they figured out the link to chaos and living beings and decided. “If we genocide everyone, no more chaos!”
For the people who say this couldn't happen in the real world, I point to the Saturn V rocket. The vehicle that carried mankind beyond our homeworld to the moon. NASA cannot build anymore of them because the main rocket engine for the thing was handcrafted by masters in their fields and all the men that built it have retired or died. To build a new Saturn V would require decades to relearn all the tricks and special touches they used. The Imperium doesn't have that kind of time.
In a universe where what you know can hurt you, being cautious about R&D is not unreasonable.
Typhon was reading some of Squad Broken in TTS.
I know how to assemble computers, but don't ask me to make the components that combine to make a computer.
Hey o/, I'm a Programmer and had to do sometimes Electronic Engineering for work. So yeah I know how to solder and this isn't the problem tho. I could probably build the equivalent of a calculator or a very basic computer (think 8-Bit, nothing fancy or modern) with logic gates and such. But where does one get all the IC's and datasheets to even know how to use the chips in our example :/. And forget about creating your own IC's at home xD. Although I've seen some videos where people did this. Old Man's point still stands xD.
18:10 19. hundreds? More like 12-13Century. And I can show it. Medieval monks believed: - That all knowledge comes from god and therefor things can only ever being relearned, not discovered - that is why they always searched and translated classical greek and roman manuscripts, because they believed that was the pinnacle of human knowledge (fun fact geocentrism stayed on so long because it had an ancient greek guy promoting it and those guys could never be wrong) - many of those monks also held the philosophical belief that all of creation is basically a giant, super complex clockwork like machine governed by god's laws of nature (concept called machina mundi) - Thomas Aquinas made the argument for the existence of god that something must have been the first mover that set everything in motion but is not moved itself, an automotive force... Does any or all of that sound somewhat familiar to 40k fans?
The church of the broken god of the scp foundation would approve the mechanicus' blending of ritual and tech. Everything else? Not so much.
6:53 YOU do NOT wanna know.
I wouldnt say the mechanicus has a 1900's understanding of science, I would go as far to say their at least at 22nd (2100+ AD) century tech. my reasoning: who currently has a mechadendrite that perfectly simulates a meat arm and the senses that come with it (ie able to feel where it is in relation to the body, how much pressure is being exerted, and how hot/cold an object is)?
@bananananananabatman8999
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, they are definitely more advanced then us, but not by as much as they seem, the biggest thing over us is probably said cybernetics. Because that’s the best thing they can reliably produce and use without having to do machine spirit stupidity.
@Xo-3130
7 ай бұрын
@@bananananananabatman8999it might be that the more advanced technology that they possess from the Dark Age is straight up made not by humans but by AI. The science behind it is probably too advance for them to understand or really any human with the possible exception of Transhumans to understand.
Fair warning, if you read Squad Broken, you’ll never look at Orks the same way ever again
So how do they learn about xeno tech and not be called tech heretics let’s take the Tau let’s say the imperial get ahold of some of their techs and “persuades” them to make rail guns and battle suits for them, or just take stuff off their corpses and use them, I know you’ll argue that they could sabotage them etc but still how did they make advanced stuff and not get pranked by a demon of tzwnch, they’d still have battle field loot to use and make new things for the imperium as well as trade for
@AbyssWatcher745
Жыл бұрын
Well they don't. Atleast not most and not officially. Probably by pretending that it's actually lost human tech that happens to look similar(which tbf is a real possibility).
@Sasha-ph9uv
Жыл бұрын
@@AbyssWatcher745 it's basically what the mechanicus pretend each time they found Necron stuff
@minhducnguyen9276
Жыл бұрын
@@AbyssWatcher745 As far as I understand, the mechanicus are very interested in the technology of the Tau railguns and necron gauss rifles. Because both weapons are clearly more powerful and more compact than what they have for the same amount of firepower and because they actually understand the main principles behind those weapons. The mechanicus even have the prototypes copies of the railguns and gauss rifles but they don't have the materials science and engineering to make them work on the field as both prototypes can only work for a few shots before overheating due to the lack of superconductor which only the Tau have or rip themselves apart because they can't contain the powerful magnetic field like the necrons gauss weapons do.
@Brutalyte616
Жыл бұрын
The Mechanicus aren't actually as technologically stunted as you'd think. The problem is that, while there are quite a few progressives like Cawl, the Mechanicus at large is incredibly conservative, and the various sub-factions of the Mechanicus guard their knowledge like the Custodes would guard the Emperor's laundry. If the Mechanicus as a whole stopped with the politics and made a sincere move to pool all the knowledge each individual Forge World has, the Imperium would probably rival the Tau in technological innovation, even with the Mechanicus's insistence on superstitious hoo-ha.
@MiguelSanchezDelVillar
Жыл бұрын
They would study it but the official statement would be that its to know how to counter/make better protection against them, of course some Techpriests would try to make new things based on that and pass it as a lost STC
Earliest error in the video, he mentions the Custodes and Mechanicus having Dark Age Tech, but he forgets to mention that there are others such as the Dark Angels. That said, the Dark Angels don't trust their Techmarines beyond managing their treasury of Arcane tech and the Rock. Makes me wonder if a lot of the Dark Age tech and their pre-Scouring Techmarine ideology were shuffled into another Successor chapter. And to go on a bit of a tangent. The Dark Angels do NOT allow Techmarines on their Inner Circle, because of their connections to the Mechanicus. How the flying fuck did the Primaris get accepted, let alone on the Inner Circle?!
@marcusromulus5646
Жыл бұрын
Oh that last part is simple. Intense and excruciating torture by the Chapter's very best for weeks at a minimum, and then mental probing and more than a few dozen Primaris being dissected and autopsied while still alive. You know, usual Dark Angel shit.
@darkinnovator2479
Жыл бұрын
@@marcusromulus5646 This... makes a lot of sense. Still, can you imagine the round the clock watch Asmodai and Belial are doing to make sure that not a single Primaris is in contact with Guilliman. The suspicions must be fucking high, otherwise it shouldn't make a lick of sense. And even then, there's gotta be some Blueberry Marysue shit in the work even now.
@marcusromulus5646
Жыл бұрын
@@darkinnovator2479 To be fair the Primaris being added to the Chapters makes very little sense alot of the time, but I wouldn't say the Dark Angels is one of those times. The Primaris don't need watching by Asmodai or Belial, or any other Interrogator for that matter. If I recall correctly the Primaris Squads are broken up and added to already existing Squads. What harm can 2 do in a Squad of 12 and in different fireteams? Plus, adding in the "loyalty checks" every Primaris had to endure to join the Dark Angels Legion (torture and mid checks) and even the Lion himself would be reasonably happy with their 'loyalty'. After all there's no Primaris in The Fallen. Besides the Dark Angels have less suspicions on the Ultramarines than the majority of other Chapters. If the Primaris were from the Raven Guard, for example, they would have been executed en-masse instantly.
@darkinnovator2479
Жыл бұрын
@@marcusromulus5646 I would contest that, since it makes it double not making sense in lieu of the Lion FUCKING HATING Guilliman. People talk about the illusion of rivalry between him and Russ, but all the time we see Guilliman and the Lion together you imagine the Lion "winding up" to smash the face of a Blueberry into a smear.
@marcusromulus5646
Жыл бұрын
@@darkinnovator2479 They were pretty close when Konrad was running round causing hell and leaving skinned Dark Angels all over the Lion's ship. Now to be fair the Lion is suspicious of *everyone* but Gulliman is pretty high on the Lion's "Potentially/maybe/possibly not a backstabbing traitorous arse" list. I must admit I've never understood the hatred for the Ultramarines. Yes they are the Space Marine favourites and they have been written as a bit too powerful in a couple books but when the primary 'example' of them being Mary Sue's and that three Ultramarines conquered a planet is the first Space Marine game... Yeah, you've lost me. Plus I really like their Roman mentality of 'Humans are weak but adequate Auxiliary troops so *I* can be shot at less.' That is interesting to me, plus they do give a tiny shit about humanity as a whole, which is substantially more than 98% of the other Chapters.
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