Have had one for a month. Fly about 6 times a day dont crash much and havemt had any problems with mine. Fun as heck for 100 bucks i think and has decent range. I can circle my block around 8 houses and no probs. 🤷‍♂️ if it breaks ide buy another. Im a beginner and ide recommend

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

A couple more months and expect your VTX to go bad. It won’t be your fault. It just happens. Did you get yours used? Freestyle should be more than $100. $120 + tax + shipping which is roughly $140. You’ll eventually need propellers and motors too so figure another $50 ish at least.

@meinsla1999

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric I bought 2 x of the quads(THFS2) and 20 batteries(so it is like having 10 packs). I also bought 10 packs of the OEM props 5 in red and 5 in black. I think it is a great way to learn the flight dynamics of FPV. Is it for a person that never flew a drone before? No, and I agree with you on that aspect. Do I run my VTX on 200mw all the time? No because most of the time I am flying proximity so I adjust it based on need. If I lose a quad(I did lose one because the built in beeper sucks) then I am only out of $120(shipping included). I otherwise I really would not be able to FPV. Also, I did the xt30 mod and fly 15+minutes on a 2s 18650 pack micro long range chill cruiser... Overall this quad is not for everybody(is any quad for everybody?). Not really recommended for completely new pilots. I however was looking for a freestyle/racer style quad outside of just toy drones and I have very limited income.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@meinsla1999 sounds like it was the perfect fit for you. Good idea in keeping the VTX at 100mw. Try setting the beeper on sound number 3. The tone appears to be louder to me at least. You can experiment with the other beeps to see which you like best foe locating a downed quad.

@meinsla1999

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric UPDATE: I had this THFS II since tuesday(my 2nd one) and I went to take off today and it would just flip and one motor is not working. I was even trying to say something nice about this quad and it won't even fly on day 3. EDIT: Upon investigating the source of why a motor was not working I found a loose wire that had come off the pad on the board. Soldered back the wire and the drone is still working. Did not get to fly it on day 3, but flew 10 times at least on day 4 after the repairs.

@maxz9787

3 жыл бұрын

@@meinsla1999 and have you already used up your 40 propellers😂😂😂

I have never flown a drone in my life but still getting it

Solid video and all valid points I would only like to say if you offered some alternatives for beginners to get into I think this video would have been alot more useful for someone looking to get into the hobby

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, if I had more quads that fit this class for comparison, I'd totally be open about recommending something. However, I hesitate to recommend any quads that I don't personally own myself. Even the ones I have, I make a point to run through several hundred batteries before saying a word about them. Too many videos out there of people taking quads through a few packs and then discussing it. It's good for viewers to know specs and such, but it doesn't have much value as far as ownership for people who actually want to buy the quad. I as others have looked at the Emax Phantom as it's in the same class. The cost is comparable and it comes from a company that has a much better reputation for quality. Again though, I haven't researched enough to know the ins and outs of ownership in the long run to really say what to get. This video is more as a warning for those who are already considering the THF2 and aren't aware of the ownership details. The other quads I have include the GEPRC SkipHD3 but it's not really comparable to the THF2 nor are the NBD BNF whoops and home built ones that I have. I also own a GEPRC Cygnet 3 and again, not in the same class of quad. I buy all these quads myself for me to use personally. These aren't review quads so I'm unfortunately not going to have a lot to say on a list of other quads.

@greedysamson7200

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric I get what you are saying it makes sense and I can respect the fact you wanna give people legit recommendations, I got the emax tinyhawk RTF as my first ever FPV experience the ESC on the board went and I bought like two sets of motors before I even knew what ESCs were so videos like these can be helpful, thanks

This was my first quad and I’ve loved it. First one from Amazon a motor died on the first crash but after an easy return my second is on same 4 motors, no issues for about a year. Just recently changed vtx to eachine nano not b/c old one broke but I wanted a circular antenna and more output power. I did solder on a u.fl connector on the old one just to see if I could and it was pretty meticulous work but I got it on haha. overall super fun and it’s taught me a lot about the hobby and can’t wait to get a 5” sometime in the future.

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

Cool. Glad it worked out for you. Curious how many packs would you estimate you’ve run through in that year. Several hundred or less than 100 packs? Congrats on the UFL connector install. That takes some skill which you obviously have. Good work!

@SergioGMN

2 жыл бұрын

Hey I have a Tinyhawk 2 Freestyle too and I have been wanting to change my VTX for exactly the same one you mentioned and put a foxeer lollipop mini antenna there. How has it gone to you? Did you follow any tutorial? How did you manage to remove the stock VTX? It seems tricky to remove without damaging it, I know I can just clip off the pins but I'd like to do it in a non destructive way.

@squidrb

2 жыл бұрын

Wdym 100 packs? Batteries? Can’t you just charge them? Or do you have to get a new one every time you fly?

@zanderx7

Жыл бұрын

@@squidrb they’re chargeable, this guy is just hating really hard, it’s a solid drone for the price

It was my first FPV. Yep, excellent points, however, I learned tons by having this for its short life span. In the beginning, I crashed many times as expected which meant something broke. Went back to the table and repaired. This cycle continued with each flight for quite some time. Mostly the motors, as you mentioned but I found them from getFPV. The props also cut a few of the motor wires, so that too happened often. Finally, I had a few sessions where I made it through the 3 pairs of batteries. It was a fun fly, up and over trees but never too far before the signal dropped. Had to stay within 30 yards or so but that ended when I had a big crash. Overall, learning to solder on new motors, which seemed constantly, taught me a bunch and prepared me for the next level of drone. Loved it when it worked, but doubtful that I will ever purchase an EMAX product again!!

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds like the exact same experience as others including myself have had. The life of an Emax product owner. The locations for the motor wires definitely should've been rethought. Very vulnerable from the factory for certain as you and others have mentioned.

@zorilla0

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric Wire placement on EMAX products is a meme at this point. The very first thing I did after getting a Tinyhawk Freestyle (and later the II Freestyle) was redo the zip ties closer to the inside and zip tie and heat shrink the SPI receiver antenna. The VTX antenna looks worse than it is and can be left alone.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@zorilla0 yeah the whole design of it can definitely be improved.

@laos85

2 жыл бұрын

That's why simulator is very important

@SergioGMN

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly this seems like a you issue, I got this as my first drone and while I have indeed crashed quite a few times, I never crashed hard enough to break anything. I spent around 20 hours on the simulator before going to the real drone (I got my radio first so I really wanted to fly) and honestly I reply to anyone who tells me they broke the drone on their first week that they should have spent more time on the sim.

the motor wiring is a major weak point for sure! the later ones from banggood are made better and stronger plus theyve added hot glue to stop movement which it the cause of the wire breaking

According to the PACEworldwide instructional soldering videos, the proper way to strip wires is with a thermal wore stripper. I don't have one and I doubt you do either, and you were probably trying to do it with a knife. I'm hazarding a guess that a thermal stripper or something like it is how they pull this off at the factory.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, used a knife.

I bought the rtf kit for 2 months. The cheap goggles never worked. I've never flown it. I just went dji v2 goggles and iflight/tango digital bnf kit. Should be hear soon.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Oh wow, that’s a huge jump in budget. Yes, lots of people have complained about the RTF goggles from Emax. The transmitter people say are decent but often need upgrading pretty quickly. The DJI system isn’t just a bump up. Its a whole new game. Most toothpicks won’t be DJI capable. So you’re talking about a very different flight experience as far as location and type of flying. Generally, the micro quads you can fly pretty much anywhere and people won’t care but the DJI will most likely be a full sized quad which will take some planning.

@timbo4707

3 жыл бұрын

I would love to buy the quad from you if you still have it. I'm trying to get into fpv. I have goggles and tx.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@timbo4707 I do still have it. I wasn't able to get the RX antenna soldered back on. You can DM me on Instagram if you're serious about buying it for delivery in the USA. Instagram also @Funcentric.

Yeah I got this one as a beginner it worked great for me. Ripped the motor apart in a crash once, just snapped it back, flew the same. And I think the heat shrink thing was a defect, none of mine are like that.

I replaced all 4 motors on my THF2 because I thought a bad motor was why it was flying like it had a flat tire. My problem turned out to be a damaged gyro. But I did have to replace 1 motor after replacing the bottom plate because like you said, the heat shrink doesn't go all the way to the windings, so one of the wires broke at the start of the winding, ruining the motor just from handling it. The THF2 was my first real quad. After a few weeks and several crashes with the THF2, I bought the TH2 and really did most of my flying on that. The TH2 on 1s is a good beginner quad because you can crash it over and over and not break it. I broke the THF2 a lot when I'd crash it and I did have to learn how to replace the antennas, frame, battery connectors, and motor. After spending a lot of money on replacement parts to try and get the THF2 to stop flying like it had a flat tire (wobbling in the air at all times), it turns out I had damaged the gyro in a crash right after getting the thing. So I agree. The THF2 is not for beginners. It's for people with a little experience flying quads. The Tinyhawk 2 is the beginner quad. I should have bought the TH2 first, then upgraded to the THF2 once I could fly the TH2 well. My THF2 is in pieces right now. I tried replacing the gyro but it's not working at all now, so I'm going to try and find a different AIO board to replace the Emax board. I'll add a TBS Unify pro32 nano and a Crossfire nano, and while I'm at I'm going to find a better nano camera for it. I can reuse the frame and motors. It should be a fun quad again.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

If you’re willing to go through all that trouble replacing parts, you may want to consider getting a more substantial frame. The THF2 doesn’t accept a standard FC natively. It’s proprietary and would require possibly more work than you may feel it is worth. A lot of people commit themselves to the thf2 frame because it’s all they know and possibly because they feel they’ve spent so much time on research and it kinda owes them to operate. Or maybe they’ve invested a lot into propellers. With the work you’d be putting into the thf2, you could essentially do the same with another frame and get a much better and more reliable result. Remember there are no other options for motors on the THF2 and they’re way delicate.

@CarbonGlassMan

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric The motors are why I would use the frame since it has the 3 bolt pattern in it and I happen to have 8 good 1103 emax motors. I enjoy tinkering and make carbon fiber parts for a living and I really like how the THF2 flies and how quiet it is. Honestly I don't have a single carbon framed quad that I haven't modified the frame on so that part is not a big deal. The downsides of the THF2 in my opinion are the FC, the battery connector, and the control link and video range.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@CarbonGlassMan that’s a lot of downsides but it’s cool that you’re so into carbon fiber. That’s awesome! Sounds like a good hobby for y’a!

What’s better the mobula 7 on 2s or the tiny hawk 2 freestyle?

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Not comparable. Mobula is a whoop. Thf2 is a micro unducted quad. I don’t like either but like the Emax product less.

What’s a good beginners drone who hasn’t flown a drone but wants to learn fpv

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

You think I’m joking but, the JJRC H36. Indoor only. It will teach you the concept of flying manually. Durable. Good to give away when you’re done if you get bored. For FPV, I like newbeedrone products personally.

I already ordered mine after hearing nothing but good about it. I'm new to fpv. I don't know how to solder. I've been practicing on a simulation but if dont know what I'm gonna do if the vtx goes...

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Just know that many of the KZread videos out there are released for the purposes of selling a quad. Notice there are very few comparison videos to help people decide which quad to pick. An overwhelming majority are just pros and cons of one quad with clear bias on the pros. I don’t show flight footage on mine because it doesn’t really help people know the quad. All flight footage looks the same. I think it distracts people from the actual useful content with pretty pictures/videos. If the VTX goes out, let me know and I might make a tutorial video if you feel the others out there on the subject aren’t sufficient enough as a step by step guide.

@bbblllaaaj

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric thanks man! I'll for sure let you know.

@shayjordan1899

3 жыл бұрын

Dont worry it's cheap there are many videos on here. Just type (emax tinyhawk vtx upgrade) 👍👍

@terrygay5206

3 жыл бұрын

I'm new to fpv too. I've had mine for about 2 months flown at least 50 packs and haven't had a single issue. I love it. I've had several crashes with no issues.

It was my first quad and it went ok for me. So far, I guess it’s all luck. My Moblite7 burned a motor right away but the th2 still good. Go figure

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah the Moblite is so scary. So naked. Looks super delicate. Can't imagine myself flying that outdoors. I think I'd break it in 2 seconds.

@naveda08

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric yeah def, the Moblite is for indoors only or like the parking ramps or something like that and def super delicate. just dont crash lol

hello 🖐️ , great video . je suis débutant dans le Fpv , et j'hésitais beaucoup entre le tinyhawk 2 freestyle pack complet RTF et le eachine Novice 2 pack complet RTF , cela va être mon premier drone , je n'ai aucune expérience dans les drones , mais sinon j'ai quelques hélicoptères Rc et j'ai quelques heures de vol déjà sur hélicoptère , peut tu me donner un conseil en tant que professionnel , que me conseillez-vous comme pack RTF pour débuter ? j'aime beaucoup le novice 2 , le emax THawk freestyle 2 , le tyro , et le wizzard eachine , ça c'est pour les packs RTF . Sinon me conseillerais tu de prendre le baby nazgul en BNF , avec une radiocommande taranis Q7 , ou la jumper T lite ? et qu'elles lunettes de qualité correcte pour commencer tu me conseillerais ? Milles mercis d'avance . Cordialement 😊👍

My vtx just failed. I thought back to this video but at least I got my money back. Have u found the reason the vtx fails? And any new drone recomendations.

@Revelation1177

2 жыл бұрын

Get the flywoo explorer

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, sorry for the late reply. Didn't see this come in. Yeah, a prematurely failing VTX is basically the rule when it comes to this quad. It's just a matter of time. VTX's can fail on all quads, but for the freestyle, it seems that it's way way way premature. I don't know why it fails. It's probably just a quality control issue. I am not a sponsored channel so I don't have a ton of experience with all sorts of quads. Before I can recommend anything, I'd have to know more about how you fly and what you intend to do. I fly whoops generally. My 5" is a Nazgul. I don't have walls full of this stuff. I do have a video about brushed whoops vs brushless if you have a question on that.

Hey Funcentric! You helped me a while ago and I like your honest opinions so here I am again! :) So I'm looking to get a new whoop (my TH2 broke, and I'm pretty sure its because of reasons you also know about) and I think I got it narrowed down to the Mobula6 or the NewBeeDrone Hummingbird F4 Pro. The problem with the Mobula is that it looks perfect except that it seems to have some quality control issues. And I know how high you are on NewBeeDrone. (Sometimes I suspect you are secretly an employee of theirs always boosting their products LOL!) And their Hummingbird F4 pro is priced competitively to the Mobula, and the performance is equal if not better from what I have seen. But their is one common problem with the F4 pro that many people seem to encounter. This reviewer (not me) says it well: This is by far the best flying race whoop I have ever had - all three of them were. It has an excellent tune out of the factory, it has plenty of power, it has all the features you want, and it wins races. The improved gyro puts this whoop head and shoulders above all the competition. The quad-blade Azi props on those wonderfully responsive NBD motors are a winning combination. The camera is clear and handles low-light racing better than any other in its weight class. The LEDs make it easy on race directors and spectators to determine who is flying what whoop. Were it not for an absolutely fatal flaw this would be the single best whoop you could buy and it would not be close. But one unlucky hit will kill the receiver on this whoop. It is a design flaw that Newbeedrone has been trying to fix through multiple board revisions and it's still there. I have lost 3 of them to this flaw. Once you get that RXLOSS message in your OSD it's either solder on an external receiver (which adds weight that largely ruins the flying qualities of the aircraft) or forget it. And you only have a one month warranty - which for a craft with a known design flaw is absolutely unacceptable. That's why this whoop will break your heart - it is so very close to perfection but because of the serious unresolved hardware flaws I CANNOT recommend this product. When this whoop is working it performs almost flawlessly. But if one gate hit can kill your whoop then all the fantastic performance in the world cannot make up for a complete lack of durability. Maybe someday Newbeedrone will get this product right - they are so tantalizingly close. But until that happens, steer away from this product unless you can live with an external receiver or there is a revision that fixes the dead RX issue. It seems like the design of where the RX is, is bad. What do you say to this? Should I still get the Hummingbird F4 pro? The Mobula? Another NewBeeDrone whoop? Or another whoop altogether? Thanks!

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

I wish I worked for nbd! Haha. To date, my nbd Beenbrain BL which goes by a different name now has gone through over 1,000 battery packs without issue. One of the motor connectors came loose but I was able to secure it. The flight controller is flawless from my experience. No issues with the receiver nor VTX at all. My mobula7 and other quads that I have built using the Crazybee F4 FC (various versions) have all gone kaput. They’re cheap which is why I keep rebuying them but eventually I’ll try something else. The FC just isn’t reliable. The nbd humming bird I believe doesn’t use betaflight. I think that’s the one that uses silverware which I’ve never used but hear is great out of the box. You can’t really make changes to it so just fly as is unless you know how to program and stuff. If I were you, I’d get a nbd product. Of course! Haha. There are people on Facebook groups who have reported issues but nbd is based in San Diego which is local to me in the USA which is a huge plus for me. Although I’m Chinese myself, I can’t reply on my fellow brethren to take care of me when issues come up with their products. Follow Facebook groups for all the brands and you’ll see how much effort nbd puts into communication with their customers. No affiliate links from me. Haha. Honest truth so buy at whatever source you want.

Good advice in this video. This is not a good first drone for all of the many reasons provided. In my experience, most of these cheap drones are just that: cheap and often have shoddy assembly and low-end components. They can still be a lot of fun (Tinyhawk 2), but it can be frustrating when you are new and do not know how to troubleshoot issues (or don't want to/are not comfortable soldering).

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

In their defense, they did have to make do with their budget class. I just don't see why the UFL connector was missed and if the excuse is weight savings, I don't buy it. We're talking fractions of a gram and cost is negligible to include an antenna with a UFL connector. Would save people a bunch of headaches. But it's to learn people say. Haha.

@ValFPV

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric I actually like that choice. direct soldered is way more durable than the shitty tiny ufl plugs

@zorilla0

3 жыл бұрын

I'm one of the weird ones who wish solder-type VTX cables were more common. Soldering a coax wire to a board is easier than it looks and I have so many bad experiences with u.FL connectors that just lead to me having to solder anyway.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@zorilla0 Yeah, you’re definitely an unusual breed. Glad the stock solder setup is working for you. Yes, the UFL connectors come off for me sometimes too. I use liquid electrical tape to secure it further.

Like the aircraft but mine "exploded" after only a few flights during a normal Bettafilght Air Mode landing. Somewhat bumpy landing but not at all unsual. The SUPPORTS are made from NYLON and stripped out. Pieces and screws went every which way. I'm replacing them with METAL. Lost one of the camera supports during the incident. 3D Printing another one. Having to design it myself. Unable to find one online. Can't wait to get it back in the air. Really performs. Hopefully it will hold up this time after fixing the DESIGN FLAW. 2s is about as big as you want to go on this class aircraft. Have a couple 3s in this size, too awkward.

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

ESC's cannot handle amps that would pull from the motors on 3S. Definitely don't want to do that. The VTX will go out if it hasn't already, so just be aware so that you're not investing too much time/money into it unless you really plan on maintaining it vs getting a different quad.

beside the emax ez pilot, this is my first fpv drone, repaired one motor cable, and swapped one motor, yes all 4 motors have bad heat shrink and the new one had good heat shrink and some seal up in the connection point, otherwise i love it and i crash less everyday! More time in the sim less crashing tho

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they seriously need to work on the quality control or at least consistency.

@anthonyfpvminiquad1728

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric agreed. 1st tiny hawk was a tinyhawk fs 1 and bad motor shrink causes me to have to replace the motor, then tiny hawk fs 2 came unable to bind without cli commands and it was stuck on pid 1 and popped instantly when connecting the 2s despite me changing the pid profile manually. Also had to redo the antenna positioning cause it was routed right into the blades with no way to get it to not hit. Third tinyhawk is a fs 2 and this time it was perfect. And actually set correct in terms of transmitter controls (previously they were mixed (forward butch was roll left, roll down was somehow yaw 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️). Third time it all worked out smooth and got 6 minute flight times on the 450s. Honestly the qc socks but the dtone itself is excellent (wonky motors aside). Already properly added extra protection on motor wires. I do hope they come out with a 3 inch tiny hawk fs with proper ufl connector, xt30/60, 400 mw and an HD split style camera 2-3s. Cause let's face it, the freestyles are USELESS on 1s. The 450 on 1s gave me 45 seconds of flight cause of sag and light wind. 2s on the same cells, 6 minutes and no real sag till the last 30 - 40 seconds.

I spent a week getting mine to work, rtf my ass. This drone has so many problems yet it's easy for reviews to overlook them. I'm glad you didn't

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'd consider those "reviews" more like tests. It's not really a review if you've only put a few packs through it. I personally think you need at least 50 packs through it to get to really know the longevity of it which is what people really want to know - not just pretty video footage. Entertaining, but not as useful. Don't get me wrong. I like those videos too, but gotta watch them knowing what they really are. Many of them are sales pitches.

The intro audio was ok but the audio of the main part is not good...

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah sorry about that. I noticed that too. Something wrong with my microphone. I fixed it in my next video. Will keep testing it.

@360vroomers

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric i have a yt channel too and learned the hard way that for tutorials and vlogs, viewers are less forgiving about the audio. Anyway good job on the great content!

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@360vroomers yeah audio makes a big difference. When you don’t notice it, its a good thing. When it’s poor, its really bad. My other videos where I didn’t have the glitch are much better quality. But yeah, I totally agree with you.

They won't tolerate and water..but never been able to rip the antenna off

Need a little help. My board makes 1 beep then 4 blue led flashes , 4 green led flashes, then 1 red led flash. Repeats once more. Need help fixing this issue.

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry man. I got rid of mine because it was such a headache. Each time I bind it, the thing takes a few tries. I got fed up with it. No such issues for me with newbeedrone nor iflight products so far.

The RX antenna you are talking about that is so hard to solder on...you mean the receiver antenna on the quad for the radio controller? The one that receives your stick imputs? Why not just take it off and solder a separate receiver to the Sbus pad on the flight controller?

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, that’s the one. Yes, that’s is also an alternative. Good idea, but I wasn’t looking to spend anymore money on mine. Definitely a good way around it though. Good point.

@KaizerTest

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric I have one and I soldered a Flysky receiver on. Works good so far.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@KaizerTest nice! Yeah I put a TSB unify pro nano VTX when the stock one failed.

My first acro drone, crashed almost full throtle upsidown on grass compleetly broke one arm but the motors where fine even afta replacing bottom plate mabey i got verry lucky

I have the same thing and it is really easy and no motets have burned out

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

Cool, how many battery packs have you gone through?

Hi, thank you for the review! I´d like to ask, if is it possible to use transmitter and goggles from the old Tinyhawk (1)? (I mean that first one 75mm whoop style with white plastic cover) Because the look totaly similar. Thank you!

@Funcentric

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure you can, but you just need to rebind it. Not certain though. I absolutely hate emax for marketing their products to beginners and knowingly putting components together that don't work together. Their customer service leaves more to be desired and the whole experience was just a huge headache. So I won't be able to test it for you. For me, it's Newbeedrone or it's nothing. Haha. I do like BetaFPV too regardless of what others have said negatively about them.

I just bought one 😬 I bought a regular tinyhawk 2 but UPS botched the delivery, this time I ordered from Amazon

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Oh no. If there's anything wrong with it, return it ASAP. I wouldn't advise buying from Amazon in the future for quads. They have too good of a return policy and many people have ended up with other people's returns of broken products sold as new.

@thestoneshow2001

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric Dang, I was hoping their delivery would be more reliable then UPS, I just hope nothing is wrong with it. I ordered from racedayquads once before and I still haven't gotten my package issue resolved, it's not really their fault but I don't wanna use UPS again

What about modula 6

Thx for this video. Good job :) What are the alternatives to the original engines if we drill a fourth hole?

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

You mean motor - not engine. Motors are for electric and engines are for gas. You would be able to pick any motor that has the same Kv rating and screw size. I don’t know specifics because it’d not something people really do. I’ve only heard of one case. The spacing of the holes would be different if you used a motor with 4 holes so you may end up drilling 3 extra holes. Don’t go higher than the stock kv because the amp draw of the stock one may already be too high on 2S for the thf2.

You are right... so far I've had Emax replace one of my THF2. Now that I got a new one I gotta replace all the screws holding the board because they snapped off my last flight. It is fun and all but it's not for beginners in any way shape or form. Oh I replaced the rx antenna it was a pain lol

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! I sold mine b/c I got so frustrated with the RX antenna. Supposed to be an easy fix and I fixed it once, but the second time was just plain annoying. The standoffs end to snap sometimes too and some of those pieces aren't really standard to get anywhere. I'm surprised Emax honored a warranty. That's good. Mine got rejected b/c they said it crashed which it did, but it was a result of a failed VTX midflight. I'm thinking duh it crashed.

I picked one of these up. I'm new to this hobby and this quad is going to sit there for awhile until I can handle this thing because I slammed mine into the ground.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Crashing is the norm. I just broke the camera on my GepRC Cygnet3 yesterday and a connection on my VTX came loose on my SkipHD3. With those though, the parts are purchased separately. VTX for the SkipHD3 is only $17. When the VTX goes out on your THF2, you won't be able to find a stock Emax VTX sold separately unless it's used and you certainly don't want to spend $60+ on a whole new replacement board, so best to go with an aftermarket VTX for $17-35.

@henrygaughan147

3 жыл бұрын

Btw remember to start on beginner mode

@ChadKovac

3 жыл бұрын

@@henrygaughan147 so I got this guy out again yesterday and damn is it fun!! On beginner mode.. it let's me flip but will help me get back upright. I think. I dunno .. I need to break all my PIDs before I get cocky.

@ChadKovac

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric I'll probably upgrade to something with one of those digital 4k cameras with built in DVR. I hate not having a camera to record with. I have a new controller coming. Trying to find some good goggles for digital and I should be ready to really break something.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChadKovac One thing to consider when thinking about the camera which I hadn't thought of previously. The camera even if it's HD, doesn't have stabilization so it's still something you may not necessarily share. So not as valuable as I initially thought. We don't see the HD live through the video anyway on these analog setups. In other words, The HD camera may not be as useful as you might initially think. As far as digital is concerned, there's only one set available and from what I hear, the DJI V2 goggles are experiencing some issues. Each quad that you pair up with it will be that much more expensive since the DJI components are already $150.

Nice job on putting this out there, wish I had watched a few weeks ago... Two th2f in under 3 weeks and the rtf controller throttle has dead spots... first qwad had Vtx out in under 30 packs running at 200ma, second qwad first day out 5 packs in, two of the screws fell out and the cheesy plastic standoffs holding the boards snaped off and now the controller range is less than 200 feet. 🤦 Not sure what to do at this point 😒 The RTF kit has been a helluva gateway kit to a ripping FPV experience but this is getting expensive quick.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, that sounds about right. The issue you'll come across is that if/when it breaks, you'll feel like you've invested in it so much already, probably have a ton of propellers, maybe extra parts and have spent so much time getting to know the quad and will wonder if you should really throw it all away or just spend the $70 on a new FC. Last weekend, my RX antenna chopped off. As you know from my video, replacing it is a pain. I spent at least an hour preparing the new antenna and trying to solder it on. In my attempt to solder the ground, I snagged the tip off the antenna that solders to the board. I've pretty much had enough so may not give it another go. Seems to be wasting my time on this when I could be flying other stuff or making more KZread videos. I wish someone had made a video like this for me too! Haha. There's just too much out there praising this quad w/o really discussing the ins and outs of actual ownership (very different from just running a few packs and spewing out specs) like you see everywhere else.

I completely disagree. This is my first drone, it's been perfect for me. Absolutely perfect beginner drone for me.... I've crashed it a ton, flown for several hours, and run it hard. It's been solid, and I haven't even replaced a propeller yet. Just don't take your first flight through a metal playground set.... Or close of trees. Fly smart.

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

When it comes time to change out a motor, just be careful of those wires and as I mentioned in the video be careful not to break your antenna. It's going to be a headache replacing it w/o a UFL connector already on there. Big miss by Emax unfortunately. Mostly though, it's the prematurely failing VTX that will be the biggest headache of all. When that happens, replace it with an aftermarket one. The original one is seriously junk and I don't say stuff like that lightly.

Pyrodrone has replacements motors of a couple different sort for the freestyle 2.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

You sure? Which ones? Three mounting holes?

Dang straight newbie to fpv here. I just got the RTF kit after hearing nothing but good things about it on KZread. I've had a fair number of crashes (probably around 8) and nothing has busted yet. I changed the channel to race band 7 and upped the power to 200mw and I'm able to fly around a good portion of my neighborhood. I would estimate around .2 to .3 miles. I might keep it at 100mw from now on after hearing about the vtx though. I am a bit curious though, would it be possible to put a small heat sync on the vtx? assuming heat is what kills it? Furthermore do you have any tips to lengthen the lifespan of the quad?

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

I’m not quite certain what I’m particular kills the VTX. Possibly the heat but I can’t say for sure. As for longevity of the VTX, I have no idea but lowering the power level to 100mw sounds like a good idea. As for the the antennas, just makes sure they’re not in the way of the props when you take off. Mine got snagged the other day by something and ripped off at the tip. Gotta do all that pealing of the layers to prep for resoldering. Not looking forward to it so it’s been sitting on my shelf for 2 weeks ish.

around 100 packs, 2 havy crashed and no problems.

What about the babyhawk 2? Any opinion on this? Durability?

Just bought a bunch of 2S's for my modded tinygo, was looking for something with a little more punch, i don't suppose you have found any analog alternatives to the tinyhawk since the making of this video? Looking to do some acro freestyle outside but anything higher than a 2S is a little too much for my yard.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

I decided to build a Shutterbug85. It's all over KZread. This guy specializes in the small stuff and it runs on 2S. I generally wouldn't normally recommend a build for a first or second quad, but in this case, the components are already selected and the tuning is already done also. A lot of people get too quickly into building that they forget that building is only 1/3 of the equation. Components working well together is crucial. If you don't know why you have what sized propeller to match what sized motor going with what battery voltage, then it's best to get a BNF unless it's like the Shutterbug85 where it's already been built and done. Tuning is also crucial. If you're building from scratch something brand new, you won't know how to tune or even what to look for. Not frowning on building. Just that experience is necessary so you know what you're aiming for in a build. The Shutterbug is pretty straight forward and uses just a single AIO board, so it's not too difficult as far as the build portion is concerned. Flies amazingly well and I'm recommending this b/c the power is definitely there and great control! Mr Shutterbug definitely knows what he's doing. I recommend following him too.

I have a lot of experience with quads normal play quads to more advanced camera quads and I was keen to get a fpv and this one looked really good but what do you think?

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure I understand your question. The whole video is about what I think.

@romekearney403

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric well your saying this isn't a begginer quad but I'm new to fpv but Im not new to flying quads just new to actual fpv. I'm just asking if you think this would still suit me

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@romekearney403 Oh, I see. I understand now. Unfortunately your familiarity with camera drones aren't going to translate well to manual operation of an FPV quad. Unlike the drones you're used to, FPV quads won't have automated features, altitude hold, nor GPS so this video would still be relevant to you. I wouldn't suggest the EMAX TinyHawk Freestyle 2 for you at all. I would recommend starting out with a whoop. Something powerful enough to fly outdoors but still capable of indoors in case your schedule doesn't allow for too much outdoor flying. It'll give you the hang of the controls, the components, etc to get your feet wet. I'm partial to Newbeedrone products. You may want to take a look at their products, particularly if you're in the USA.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@romekearney403 You may come across people that will tell you to build your first quad. Don't do it (unless it's a kit). Building is only 1 of 3 steps needed for a build. People focus so much on the building part that they forget about component selection and tuning which are both essential. Not only that, but if you haven't flown enough, you won't know what to look for in a build and won't be able to appreciate what you have. Until you can determine roughly what to expect with a 3-bladed propeller vs 2-bladed at what pitch matched with what motor size running on what battery size, I'd highly recommend sticking with a BNF (bind and fly) quad that's already had research done to fit the parts together and is already tuned from the factory. Your first quad is like your first girlfriend. You're not supposed to marry her. It just helps you figure out what you like and don't like and then you can move onto some improvements. Until then, you won't really know what you want and no one can tell you b/c everyone wants different things. Different expectations, different tolerance, different style of flying, etc. Some people care more about flight characteristics at the expense of having to take more time away from flying and more time on the bench while others care more about reliability and would rather have more hours in the air.

@Infinite_Ouroboros

3 жыл бұрын

Camera drones do not translate to FPV quads. It's like comparing an automatic car to a manual one. Has a high learning curve but it's all worth it.

Welp I just bought it 3 days ago, too bad. But at least got some insurance for it.

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

That’s okay, just enjoy it while it works. The ESC’s should be fine. Much better suited for this motor setup than what emax did pairing it on their tinyhawk 2. Just watch out for the VTX on this Freestyle 2. When you see snow at 10’ away, that’ll be the big indicator.

I bought the betafpv advance racing starter kit 2 as my first FPV drone and I like it a lot. It is tough and props are protected.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

BetaFPV products seem to be good from what I've just observed. I don't have first hand experience but I've also heard that they're customer service is pretty much as non existent as Emax's. If you ever experience NBD, you'll find that they're the complete opposite. They actually look for customers with problems to help them out. So proactive! Based in San Diego and they participate heavily in the Facebook Group.

@cG-es8mb

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric what is NBD?

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@cG-es8mb Newbeedrone.com

The worst thing I can say about the Tinyhawk II Freestyle is that its VTX is just as mediocre as the ones on all their other products. I have three Eachine Nano VTXs that cost $14 each, and they all outperform the TH2FS at 200mW, even when running at 25mW with the stock linear antenna. I still recommend the quad since there is nothing that flies this well for as cheap. Well, except for the Happymodel Sailfly-X on name brand props, but that makes the TH2FS look like a 1994 Camry. The next step up is the GepRC Phantom, and that is $20-30 more expensive and doesn't come with any batteries or a charger.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

I think I’d agree with the Phantom. Doesn’t include batteries but I think the quality of the craft is better. Makes up for it.

Well this is a little bit of a bummer. I've been in the fpv hobby a little before covid started and I had a tiny whoop to start. I moved to the thf2 at the beginning of this year. It was a Christmas present that arrived late from Amazon. It works really great and looked brand new when I got it and it still does. It looks like your hundreds of packs in but I'm still around the first 20-30. I am not looking forward to the vtx breaking. Just now I am realizing that I should have asked for a different quad. But I have really enjoyed the time I've had with it so far.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Well, it's not quite a bummer yet. So just enjoy every pack you've gotten through it. There are people who are on their original VTX's so there's still a chance it survives. Less likely, but possible. At least now you know that if it fails, it's most likely not your fault and you'll know what to do. Or you can practice your line of sight flying. Haha.

@isick357

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric sorry for this other question but when I check on betaflight it says that my quad is in PID profile 1 and rate profile 1. Should I change that to PID profile 2 and rate profile 2?

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@isick357 no need for apologies. Ask all the questions you want. PID profile is pretty much the tune of the quad. It’s less of a preference thing. Beginners shouldn’t touch it. The THF2 only uses 2S batteries and designed that way. I would stick with PID profile 1 but maybe experiment with Rate profile 1 vs 2.

The price helps!!! It flies fantastic....I have wrecked it more times than I would want...no issues. I learned how to fly FPV on this very quad as a beginner. Ill send it in for repairs if it comes to that..Im not going to solder a damn thing..no matter who makes it. Its something I just will not do. But price wize...and how it was set up by EMAX for beginners...is why I bought it. Better than any Iflight or happymodel beginner quad for sure. Customer service can't be beat.

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

Customer service overall sucks, but glad you had a better experience than the rest of us. Maybe they've finally changed after all the complaints. Yes, lots of people learn to fly on these since they're so good at marketing to beginners. Sending it in for repairs? Sending it to where? The shipping cost both ways alone would cost a bunch and probably not be worth doing, right? Curious what shop you intend to fix your quad. Most people learn to do it themselves or replace the quad.

@914va

2 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric there are plenty of fix shops to do RC and Fpv. Search, you can find. I have been flying RC for over 40 years.. almost every plane and item I bought was from good marketing.Thats the way it is. There is good stuff there is bad stuff. Obviously you had a bad experience with Emax. I get it. I wouldn't buy anything from iflight or Happymodel. But I don't need to slam them on youtube. I just don't buy from them anymore. New Fpv pilots will figure it out on their own....just like you did..just like I did. Speaking of marketing? Your youtube video title is exactly that. Good job.

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

@@914va Fortunate for you that you live in a place with repair shops. Hobby shops alone are already dwindling down in number. Repair shops are even fewer. I think you missed the whole point of this video though. It’s to help people avoid my experience. Not to encourage them to go through the same headache and mistakes. KZread is plastered full of ads disguised as reviews. Very few videos out there from non sponsored folks giving honest assessments. I wouldn’t say much of what I’ve said in the video are opinions. The fact that wires are soldered when they don’t have to be and that the esc is proprietary is just they way they’ve designed it. I have no control over that. I can only make judgement that certain designs aren’t accurately catered to beginners like they claim. These things aren’t obvious to new people who don’t know what to look for.

i want to buy modula 6 or this tinyhawk freestyle 2 but idk which is better

@ktphotography2989

3 жыл бұрын

Tinyhawk

@martinstrnad6860

3 жыл бұрын

@@ktphotography2989 Why do you think?

@ktphotography2989

3 жыл бұрын

@@martinstrnad6860 I think just because it is faster more nimbal but it depends if you are new to drones or is a little experienced

@ktphotography2989

3 жыл бұрын

@@martinstrnad6860 it's up to you

Was actually just about to buy a Tinyhawk 2 Freestyle kit. Can see that maybe I should look at something else. Have never flown FPV before and I decided to try it. So what should I invest my money in as a beginner?

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

There isn't a straight setup I'd recommend for everyone b/c there are so many situations. I'm going to need to ask you some questions first. Complete beginner, meaning have you played with a quad before (either FPV or line of sight)? Do you have experience with RC cars and the like? Do you like tinkering or more of a get up and go kinda guy? Indoor quad, outdoor or both? If indoor, do you have cats/dogs at home? How does $200 for the major components sound to you or are you expecting more like $700? This does not include the extras like additional parts, legit hobby charger, tools, additional batteries, etc.

@Lukas-zx9kv

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric I have absolutely no experience. I'm thinking about 700 bucks for a kit. My thought was that if I liked flying FPV, then I would buy tools to build my own in the future.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lukas-zx9kv You're going to laugh but don't dismiss it so quickly. Buy the JJRC H36, fly it until you get bored, give it away to a lucky kid before getting something else for yourself. This will help you determine at a very low cost whether to spend more on the hobby. It will teach you about battery maintenance, controls of the quad, your schedule that you can allow for flying to fit into your life, etc. At $700, it won't be a kit. It'll be goggles, transmitter and quad that you select on your own. I use a BetaFPV Lite Radio 2 transmitter, $45 and it operates 6 quads all under 3". My setup includes a Skyzone 02C goggle. If you're looking at the THF2, you may want to check out the GepRC Phantom. I would avoid HD as your first quad. If you eventually get into bigger stuff, footage will come from a dedicated camera with stability - not the built-in HD camera w/o stability. Don't pay full price for an HD toothpick. It's cool, but no stability and at extra cost.

@Lukas-zx9kv

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric Okay, thank you very much. I want to do some research. I will give it away to a lucky child if it gets boring haha. You have been a great help :-)

can I fly it in angle mode?

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

Are you asking if it has angle mode capabilities? It does. Horizon mode too.

The tinyhawk2 is a great choice to go when u tired of mini whoop.and get out and rip it.. ill recommend it for newcomers

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Despite everything else?

Any idea if these issues have been addressed? I’d really like to get into fpv and this one seems perfect for me if it wasn’t for these issues. I really like that I can buy it as a kit and that I don’t have to break the bank. I also like that it is primarily for outdoor use as a lot of the other ones around that price range were for indoor use. Do you know of any other options with similar characteristics and features around the $300 price range? I understand you don’t like recommending drones you have not personally used, but if you know of some similar options for similar prices I will take it with a grain of salt and go do my research first. Thank you for info in the vid it is much appreciated.

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

It may sound arrogant, but quads really are disposable. While quads come and go either with repairs, being broken or you just get a new one, they turnover much higher than the goggle and transmitter setup. I would recommend that if you're quite certain you want to get into the hobby, that you look at what type of transmitter and goggles you want and let that be what sets you for the hobby. Don't forget batteries. The batteries for the little quads, 1 and 2S ones will die off quite quickly. They don't last many charges at all. Most likely less than a year. So keep that in mind as you're budgeting. Perhaps Emax is taking the market b/c as you said correctly, there aren't many options out there. Emax parts are available online everywhere which is a plus. Stuff like Happy Model and the like are much harder to come by from China. It's a give and take. I do not know if the Emax Tinyhawk Freestyle 2 has had any of the issues resolved. I haven't been following much. I'd recommend you maybe join a Facebook Group of a model you have in mind, poke around for a couple weeks and see what people are reporting. Don't listen too much of the fanboys who have nothing but great things to say. They've either not had it long enough or would feel bad if their money ended up not being spent well and won't admit issues. I personally like Newbeedrone b/c they're local. They respond to Facebook messages, are a USA based company and have very good backing. Perhaps something from them would be good. I only have had their whoops and have had good experiences.

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, I totally forgot! My favorite quad of all time is a design from Mr. Shutterbug on KZread. He's got excellent content. He's not one of those advertisers that pretend to be reviewers. He's very legit. I used his combination of motors and frame to build this and it's amazing: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZqmcxNxwepzYeJM.html BetaFPV had built their own 85mm whoop and it used to be $120 but it's no longer made. They have newer versions. If you're comfortable building, you can put something together. Doesn't require soldering if you get the right parts. The motors have connectors. If not, then Beta FPV 85mm non HD whoop would be a good place to start. The reason why is b/c Mr. Shutterbug's discovery of the balance of power vs weight is spot on with the motor selection, the size of the frame and power of the batteries. It's all kind of a science/art to figure that stuff out and he's done it very well.

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

2S flight controllers and especially 1S flight controllers are known throughout the industry to be unreliable. They all kinda suck for durability. So it's great while it lasts, but you'll go through a few. Keep that in mind for budgeting purposes. This can be an expensive hobby for that reason. Not b/c the start up costs are a lot (although they can be also) but the ongoing repair costs seem to never end.

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

I would also say that anything advertised for use with multiple voltage of batteries is pretty much a lie. It will most likely only handle the lowest cell count and the higher cell count is a gimmick or marketing thing. A 1S quad is a 1S quad and a 2S quad is a 2S quad. If it says 1S and 2S capable, it's still a 1S quad and I wouldn't advise running it on 2S even if it says it can handle it. If you want a 2S quad, get one that's literally 2S. If it's advertised as a 2S - 3S quad, run it only on 2S. That's me being super conservative and not wanting to break stuff. Some people don't care and are prepared to replace stuff fairly quickly if it breaks. if you're one of those then I guess you can run it on the higher voltage. I personally wouldn't.

@jordangrapes5072

2 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric thank you so much for the reply I appreciate the info and the advice. I decided that I need a bigger faster quad. I have a lot of land and I’m afraid I’d grow out of anything too small very quickly lol. I think I’ve landed on the iflight nazgul5 v2 5” 6s freestyle with the elrs receiver. Although 6s may sound like a bit much for my first fpv quad, I’m not a complete stranger to quads, helicopters, and rc cars and I have enough land out here I think I could figure it out. But I agree quads are like you said “disposable” so I’ve strayed away from the “kit” that way I can have a good transmitter and googles for any drone. I think the nazgul5 v2 5” 6s will be a good fit for me and be a good quad to grow into and last me a bit hopefully. Anyways think you again for the reply! You’re the man! I would love to hear what you think about my decision to go with the nazgul 5” quad instead.

So I have never flown a quad but want to get in ,what do you recommend because I was going to buy the thf2 rtf bundle

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

It might sound funny but if you are super new then I’d actually recommend a line of sight indoor quad called the JJRC H36. You can regift it when you are ready to move on. If you end up not liking it, then you’re only out $35USD. My recommendation for an FPV ready to fly kit depends on a few factors. Depends on what youre going for and your situation. Do you plan to really get into this or just test out? Do you have dogs/cats? Do you have a space to fly indoors? A freestyle quad really shouldn’t be your first quad no matter what it is.

@sanjitsinghall

3 жыл бұрын

No I don't have any pets and I have a decent indoor space and an open field not far away ,would a whoop be a good option like the betafpv meteor65 ?

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@sanjitsinghall okay. Are you the type of person like me where once you get into something, you really get I to it hardcore? Or do you think the hobby may have a chance of fading? Do you like to mod stuff at all or just use things as they come?

@sanjitsinghall

3 жыл бұрын

I am 13 and I do not have any paticular hobby so this maybe the right hobby for me to get into and maybe go hardcore after a some time

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@sanjitsinghall in that case maybe the NBD brushless ready to fly kit.

What would you recommend for a first quad i was thinking either this or the geprc tinygo

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

I like GEPRC as a company. They do have good customer service response but not a lot of American companies supply that many of their parts so I do end up having to buy directly from GEPRC which does have a long lead time. Solid product, just maintenance is not so timely. I personally have been loving my BetaFPV 85x pro2 but it’s 2S so much too strong for indoor. With winter coming up, maybe their smaller 65x would be good. Some of their quads use proprietary plugs though so you have to buy their batteries. I like how they respond to product issues though. They’re honest and take responsibility when stuff goes wrong. They handle issues well. So to choose, I’d focus more on the company than the actual quad. Newbeedrone is domestic in San Diego, CA and probably has the best customer service. They have rtf kits too. I’d recommend a betafpv lite radio SE transmitter, goggles of your choice, then a quad with Frsky protocol which is very common. Newbeedrone I think would be my number 1 pick.

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

Just be aware that a lot of “review” videos are KZread are paid advertisements disguised as reviews. Tough to navigate. That’s why I’m more focused on the company that produces the quad and how reliable they are for responding to issues. To date, my favorite quad is the betafpv 85x pro2 which is a copy of the inventor’s shutterbug85. It’s the perfect combo of battery power, frame size, propeller size and motor size for outdoor power whooping. The betafpv version is also priced very well at $99. Good for maybe a second quad. Lots of power. Can be toned down using betaflight adjustments if you really want to.

@villanerc4949

2 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric thank you bud I'll check that one out

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

@@villanerc4949 If you eventually get the Betafpv 85X Pro 2, just know the tune on it sucks out of the box. It's jittery and not at all smooth. Pretty disappointing actually. But luckily a simple adjustment in betaflight software turns it into an incredible quad. 10x better than out of the box and easy to do. Let me know if you ever need help with it. Again, this is more of a second quad than a first.

@villanerc4949

2 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric much appreciated sir 🤘

Man i just killed my AIO, and no im not new, also I haven’t replaced a single motor.

@Funcentric

Жыл бұрын

Will you be getting a new AIO? Another tiny hawk or are you done with Emax?

@WeekendFPV9876

Жыл бұрын

Ima get a new AIO, i love my tinyhawk 2 freestyle, the only quad i can fly in my neighborhood

Does the tinyhawk race 2 have the same issues ?

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t recall if the differences are more than just the frame. If the internals are identical, then yes. Far fewer issues have been reported about the Race, but it could also be because it’s not as popular.

@shivanshsingh284

3 жыл бұрын

Alright then don't want to take the smallest chances so will go for the eachine novice 2 or the betafpv meteor 65

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@shivanshsingh284 if you’re in the United States, newbeedrone is domestic located in San Diego. Great customer service which goes a long way.

@shivanshsingh284

3 жыл бұрын

Well no I live in India and basically only betafpv ships their parts directly to India

What is more durable I own a race 2 and it is amazing durable. I smash it and the batteries lasted a whole year I have one out of commission tho because I blew the canopy off it was missing screws other wise it would still be ripping

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure the Race is more durable than the Freestyle 2. Glad you're having a good experience with the Race.

What would you suggest for a first fpv drone for a begginer who has a lot of sim hours?

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Outdoors or indoors and do you have a dog/cat?

@fist_bump

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric if I can fly indoors it's a plus but not a necessity, no pets.

I had one for a whole 3 hours and the maiden flight was it's final flight at least for me it was. I wish I could have had just a second to see it or the direction it shot off in. When I first fired the engines up I literally touched the throttle and that thing shot off like a bottle rocket never to be seen again. Wow!!! Beginners huh? Right!!!

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Your next quad needs to be a jjrc h36. Really. Start slow.

@leftylaughlin1970

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric Is that also a "beginners" racer?

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@leftylaughlin1970 Well, it's not a beginner's FPV at all which is what I was trying to get at. Emax has their own model called the Emax Race which is faster. I imagine the issues with that are similar but not as discussed simply b/c it's not as popular. Fewer owners.

@leftylaughlin1970

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric I have several drones and the one in question was my first racing drone. I do know the basics of operation so I wanted to try racing but now I may be second guessing it.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@leftylaughlin1970 if you do end up getting the Emax Race, it would be interesting to hear back from you. Please comment back after 3 months of use to share your experiences.

Coold vid!! Subscribed

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Just want to make sure people know what they're getting into before they get into it.

Definitely feel like I saved my on money this one just canceled my order on it lol

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, just wanted to throw that info out there in case it makes a difference on whether people decide to purchase it or not.

@collinweinheimer1056

3 жыл бұрын

Dang you missed out ;)

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@collinweinheimer1056 ?

nice vid!

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Wish YT kept the dislike button, not to dislike the video but just to gauge what the community say about it. Since you are the only person ive heard saying this, i know about the soldered stuff and that does suck but the other stuff idk man.

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

Each to their own. I'm not saying not to get it. Just think that people should know what they're getting into before the fork money down and get so deep into the whole Emax thing. Sometimes we don't know what we need to know until we own the thing and by then, it might be too late. I wish I knew the importance of all this stuff before I got mine. That's all. I recognize there are plenty of people who like the thing. I'm just not one of them. As long as they are aware of the details of the design of this and are okay with it, then I say go for it. Just don't want others to be surprised by it only upon self discovery.

the heatshrink that didn't go as far as it should have was like that on all 4 of my motors. broke the first one in a light tumble. nice. then wait 40 days for replacement. nice. then have a mediocre crash and the board won't power on. what a joke.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Oh no! Yeah, the heat shrink not in the correct location was on that one motor and one motor didn't have heat shrink at all! Yeah, feels weird spending $70 on an FC for a quad that costs $120.

@ValFPV

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric especially when it's got the shittiest durability and smallest FETs ever. I bought a GHF411AIO toothpick board in combo with a 3d printed adapter for it, and now I'm using it for something else because it actually outlasted the quad...in terms of 3 (!) motors

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@ValFPV cool that you can reuse your parts for a whole new project.

@ValFPV

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric well it's still a quad, just a much better one now! :D That's another thing you can't really do with the Emax Tinyhawk quads because most components (frame, FC, Motors) are Emax proprietary mounting holes.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@ValFPV yes, I hate how they’re proprietary too. Even down to the motors! Still can’t find a motor with those specs that have 3 mounting holes.

Easy fix... Solder a male ufl connector onto the board. Fixed

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

Sure but I think the point is that it shouldn’t need “fixing” as a beginner quad. Also that’s just added cost. Shipping would cost more than the UFL connector itself. Although fpv hobbyists should learn to solder eventually, I don’t think it should be expected to have to solder a ufl connector when one should’ve already been provided.

@PkwyDrive13

2 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric I am a beginner.. I actually got a TH II FS the other day, as well as a nazgul 5 V2 6S to grow into. Fat shark attitude v6 / TX16S. I plan to use the freestyle 2 to learn on starting tomorrow! Got it all setup and ready to go

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

@@PkwyDrive13 My comments aren’t directed to you personally. Glad you got that UFL connector on there. Will do you wonders. Just saying that a lack of a UFL connector is what makes it a non beginner quad despite the fact that there are of course capable people such as yourself willing to add one.

@PkwyDrive13

2 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric I gotcha, it was a BUGGER to do that's for sure! Pain in the @$$!!!😂

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

@@PkwyDrive13 exactly! But at least it’ll be a ton easier now moving forward. Good work. Now get ready for a new VTX. That’ll be a fun swap, haha.

Never listened to the professionally offended!!!

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

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Learned the hard way myself to be honest 👎

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Ditto. The hype on this on KZread is strong. There's no real reason to doubt it unless you hit up the Facebook Groups and dig deep enough to see the issues people have.

@steohentruong899

3 жыл бұрын

@@Funcentric it's just people crash to much the motor will not brake if you never crash it

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@steohentruong899 I wish that was true. I crash a lot of quads but the THF2 just seems to be very delicate compared to the rest. In my experience at least. Results for others may vary.

Lies

@Funcentric

2 жыл бұрын

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Lots of dislikes on this video for too.many reasons to.list, if you are a beginner, pass on this video. Its just not a representation, find a video where there's tons of drones in the background and instead of talking about weird issues that have nothing to do with your skill.level, find someone who shows how to workaround any issues based on experience.

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, drones in background often means they’re hyping the quad for affiliate links. This video is from a regular user for purposes of helping those that are planning to buy a quad long term - not just flying it for a couple weeks before the next review.