Simply put: it was a rushed product. The MCU was set up over a period of time through standalone movies, so when the 1st Avengers came out it was the payoff that everyone wanted to see because there was a natural progression of universe building. The DCEU was just sloppily thrown together with too many cooks in the kitchen trying to play catchup. It's sad really.

@jsrrrmg

5 жыл бұрын

It's kind of crazy looking at the two sides of the DC Cinematic Universe (Live and Animated). The DC animated universe is pretty good (IMO) and they tend tell good to great stories time after time (Although, at times I think they a bit mature just to be edgy). The latest was the retelling of The Death of Superman. That story has been told over and over again, but their last iteration still managed to make me care about Superman's death and how it effected the rest of the characters. Although I will miss Cavell as Superman and think that he would have been great in the role (look at him in The Man From Uncle), if they would have taken the leash off of his more human side (pun intended).

@nazrulnadziruddin9641

5 жыл бұрын

I am sad to see the wasted potential. Affleck was awesome in his Batman portrayal, Cavill was good in playing the man of Steel, and Gal Gadot is the definition of WOnder Woman. If only the studio spent more time and invest more in the scripts instead of rushing to compete with the MCU

@thevoid99

5 жыл бұрын

another thing that i noticed is that with marvel, they have kevin feige. sure, feige has to answer to disney but he at least had some control on what he wanted to do and he took the time to plan things carefully. plus, he's a fan of these comic books and movies and knows what audiences want but also wants to subvert things a bit. feige i would say is today's answer to albert r. "cubby" broccoli and harry saltzman as the two producers who gave the film world james bond. they watched over the entire production of the bond franchise until saltzman left after "the man with the golden gun" leaving broccoli on his own as he would pass it to his daughter barbara and stepson michael g. wilson in the 1990s and they've done a solid job since. especially as they had to deal with all sorts of legal bullshit from assholes like kevin mcclory. dc needs people like that who loves the comics and understand these stories but they also need someone who doesn't take shit from anyone including warner brothers.

@michaelchristian3608

5 жыл бұрын

I've never understood that "stand-alone movies are necessary" argument. Why is it impossible to make the Justice League like Guardians of the Galaxy?

@pittland44

5 жыл бұрын

@@michaelchristian3608 It's technically not, it wasn't that the stand alone movies were necessary, it's the planning behind them that was. The one thing I would say to remember about Guardians of the Galaxy is by the time we got there we had three Iron Man movies, two Captain America & Thor Movies and one Hulk and one Avengers, so even though the Guardians were a different set of characters who occupied a different corner of the MCU, they were still a part of the larger whole and we had some background with various elements of the movie, including Thanos and the Collector and also they knew where they fit as part of the larger whole. Now, DC was at one point ready to try and launch a Justice League movie as their first foray into these types of movies. The so called Justice League: Mortal, which I have always been curious about. In order to accomplish a truly vital and functional cinematic universe though you have to have a solid centralized plan, and as near as I can tell WB changed their minds a bunch of times throughout the course of the project and tried to course correct on the fly many times. That was why when WB announced the DCEU I thought they were headed for trouble when they said they wanted the project to be more "director driven." That doesn't work for a project of this nature, not because you don't want the directors to add their own unique flair and spin to the movies, but because you need a centralized plan and vision to hold the project together. So in short, you're not wrong to question the necessity of the stand alone movies, they aren't, but the thought and planning to tie all the movies, characters and plot points is 100% essential to a project of this nature. Cheers.

DCEU = Disappointing Cinema Extended Universe

@zilla2006able

5 жыл бұрын

I agree with you

@roberttreacy8271

5 жыл бұрын

Yup.

@raptorzeraora2632

5 жыл бұрын

lol

@trevorphilips9065

5 жыл бұрын

Horrormaster13 Yet you watch it fucking moron

@yeongvinsheng7639

5 жыл бұрын

Dcxu = dysfunctional cinematic extinguished universe

You know it’s a tragedy when the Godzilla-King Kong universe is of better quality and has built their universe much better than the fucking Justice League.

@2paleo2ologist80

5 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t call it a tragedy, because the Monsterverse took their time to make their movies and people like giant monsters.

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

Blame Joss Whedon for Josstice League

@gadielgonzalez2755

5 жыл бұрын

@@themaninthemirror777 oh yeah you're right. Shit Godzilla is like almost a century old.

@seantylerfermin4927

5 жыл бұрын

The 80's Wolf nah, even with Joss to replace Snyder, Justice League would have still been a pile of hot garbage.

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

Well, why deny fans seeing the "hot garbage" snyder cut then?

Theres a scene in Justice Leagues "Hereafter" where Batman is mourning Supermans death, and in his quiet monologue you learn more about the heart of Batman. In the middle of his speech an explosion goes off in the distance, and he says "What did you always call it Clark? The Neverending Battle." That line was a direct reference to the Superman clip you showed, giving those 2 characters more depth in 1 MINUTE on an animated show than 2.5-3 movies worth of screen time. Unreal.

@superior2096

5 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@altonlucas8236

5 жыл бұрын

SSSSSO TRUE.👍

It hurts my brain that they didn't just use the 4 tv shows to make some awesome justice league movies. The biggest problem is that Snyder thinks he's on Nolan's level when he's actually on Bay's.

@TheYetixOUTx

5 жыл бұрын

ebay film remakes?

@skyfawkes7844

5 жыл бұрын

Problem is a Michael bay film is a actually fun to watch when you turn your brain off a Snyder film raises more questions and your bored 90% of the time

@Zeriel00

5 жыл бұрын

He's not even on Michael Bay's level LOL he's movies may be dumb but he knows it and he also makes a ton of money. He knows what he's doing, Snyder thinks he's better than he is. My fav moment was when he was making fun of Antman as a Dlister hero and then said Dlister kicked his ass even tough he had fucking BATMAN & SUPERMAN.

@mariobadia4553

5 жыл бұрын

@@skyfawkes7844 Lol. You shouldn't NEED to turn your brain off to enjoy movie.

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

" Problem is a Michael bay film is a actually fun to watch when you turn your brain off a Snyder film raises more questions and your bored 90% of the time " That you prefer dumb popcorn films over Snyder films, says more about you though than it says about the Snyder films. Some prefer to read a short simple detective novel, others prefer to read Dune.

DC needs to be bought by a different studio. As a lifelong DC fan, it kills me when a DC movie comes out, how much WB is going to butcher it.

@MaxIronsThird

5 жыл бұрын

Go watch Shazam.

@SuCKeRPunCH187

2 жыл бұрын

DC is fine. They just need to hire someone who knows what they are doing and never hire Snyder or Goyer again.

@mottom2657

11 ай бұрын

@@SuCKeRPunCH187 Warner messes around with DC. Warner made a ton of money with Barbie.

The DCEU started to go to shit when they flubbed Green Lantern (and made so as to not include him in the DCEU, or have Supes cameo), and they've been fumbling ever since.

@MaxIronsThird

5 жыл бұрын

@Lairdriver 2011

@SuCKeRPunCH187

5 жыл бұрын

they hired Snyder to direct and David Goyer to write, that's a problem.

Overall, once you boil it down, the key factors was planning and patience. The first Avengers movie and even the likes of Civil War later on worked because Marvel actually took their time in creating a stable foundation for their superhero movies line up. They had a vision, they knew and *planned* where they wanted to take the MCU’s overarching storyline and made it happen in a way that was both fun and consistent across several movies. Also, the first Avengers had already three or more movies preceding it, movies that with the exception of the standalone hulk movie, did reasonably well to attract the audience’s attention to the MCU Characters. So, that’s why the first Avengers movie and Civil War worked out so well, Marvel decided it was more important if not outright *vital* , that we have a few or a couple solo films that tell (for the most part) great or at the least/bare minimum sufficient enough self-contain stories that introduce us to the core Avengers cast before the big team up movie. In contrast, Warner Brothers with the DCEU is an example of what *NOT* to do in creating a shared cinematic universe. By god, I am beyond disappointed with how this DCEU film franchise has been handled even though they had a few successes recently with Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Shazam. And this is coming from someone who literally grew up and *still* prefers DC comics and just DC in general over any Marvel properties. When it comes to the DCEU, Warner Bro’s dropped the ball and dropped the ball *hard* with their films line up. Man of Steel while overall meh introduced audiences to a Superman that was virtually unrecognizable from his comic book self (and not in a good way), Batman v Superman (both versions of the movie mind you) was just an absolute dumpster fire of a film in general let alone a superhero film, Suicide Squad was just wrong with *everything* (the nonsensical plot, the copywrited music being outright annoying at points even out of place and not enhancing the movie like in Guardians of the Galaxy, too many characters and not enough character interaction/motivations syndrome, and did I mention the writing or do I need to go on?), and the biggest sin of all the Justice League movie (no ..... just no). Really, the only saving grace for the DCEU at this point is that they should just focus on making good stand alone superhero films *first* before even making another attempt at another team up movie. I mean Shazam, a movie for gods sake about a DC hero that is sometimes shit on as the *magical Superman* received better critical and financial reception than not one, not two, but *THREE* 2 hour studio mandated films featuring the actual Superman as one of the central characters.

Why aren't more people talking about the visuals of the two universes? MCU looks like a normal every day earth that we all live in. DCEU colour palette looks like an over cgi'd world, is far too dark, unrealistic looking and is off putting and not easily connectable. Bit like 300 which looked awful.

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

DCEU style = graphical novels/comic book style. MCU style = bland, grey, heroes stands out too much so they look silly.

@joshuabruns7998

5 жыл бұрын

fatrick5004 Because Zack Snyder directed them all. He directed 300, so hence why these films look like that. I personally loved 300 and Watchmen. I love how gritty and dark they were. I saw them when they first came out and it was very different and original for it's time. To me the Marvel movies are little 'cartoony' looking for me. Its not supposed to be real, so if you're going to make a super hero movie thats fake anyways, I'd rather have Snyder's dark filter over it than Marvels colorful, light touch.

@scrublord7922

5 жыл бұрын

@@The80sWolf_ And yet its still a borefest

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

Yea I know mcu movies are quite boring in general

@scrublord7922

5 жыл бұрын

@@The80sWolf_ Explain the popularity and success then? Oh right you're too delusional that there's no way marvel can do better than dc amirite? Keep throwing money at these shit movies I wanna see what a dead and buried movie franchise looks like a few years from now :)

DC don't make movies, Warner Bros Pictures make movies based on DC comics.

@yeongvinsheng7639

5 жыл бұрын

And does a phoned in job to translate them into live action

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

Man of steel and bvs is full of pure comic book sequences that translates great to live action.

@yeongvinsheng7639

5 жыл бұрын

@@The80sWolf_ but not bvs

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

"but not bvs" lol kzread.info/dash/bejne/gmmat7OfgZm4ZKw.html

@ciaranmurren

5 жыл бұрын

@@The80sWolf_ Batman v Superman Dawn of Justice is awful. One of the worst movies ever.

I'd just point out that MoS isn't actually the first DCEU movie - Green Lantern is. Or okay, at least it was supposed to be (hence Amanda Waller) but was only abandoned as such after it fell flat on its face Remember too; GL was fun, with bright vivid colors and jokes all over the place ...and people hated it, with it losing I believe just short of 200 million. Soooo DC overreacted, naturally, running the complete opposite direction and back to the tone of the movie series people did like. That was Nolans. Hiring Snyder, a notoriously poor story teller with massive issues developing characters, just because he was best suited to imitate Dark Knight visually was the initial knife thru the heart of the DCEU from which they never recovered (seriously, hiring a guy that is horrific at characters to develop the character foundation of an entire epic franchise? Duh!)

@dignerds

5 жыл бұрын

No ..MOS was the first DCEU movie..GL was a failed first start.

@dignerds

5 жыл бұрын

Zack Snyder is a brilliant director and a visionary storyteller..with an exceptional talent for developing characters...and he gave us a Superman thats purest to original lore and history ever put on film... Also..the only element that was Nolan inspired was the fact that it was going to be grounded...and Both Nolan and Snyder made it very clear that the difference would be that whats grounding is for Superman would be different than grounding for Batman...Snyders critics are ill informed due to their hate filled bias.

@Dave102693

5 жыл бұрын

@@dignerds yeah, OK, sure. 🙄🙄🙄

@dreddiknight

5 жыл бұрын

@@dignerds hate filled bias... Um no. I really don't think his storytelling is good and the characters actions and motivations are inconsistent. He has amazing visual flair, but for me that's about it.

@esseehmeunomeunomeehesseda3370

5 жыл бұрын

Snyder is NOT a good director...at all...I mean the kid in me loves 300 but his other movies are mediocre at best

What killed Man of Steel for me was the suggestion by Johnathan Kent to Clark to let those people in the bus drown. They compacted this failure with Clark letting Johnathan die in the Tornado when he easily could have saved him from it. Granted there are other points (i.e. why would a ship that crash-landed on earth thousands of years before Clark arrived have uniforms to choose from that Clark ultimately uses (unless we are supposed to believe that the A.I. known as Jor-El assembled the uniform when Clark used the key to interface at the ship). Hans Zimmer did an excellent job of scoring the film (a daunting task to be sure after the keynote score has been set by John Williams). Nothing against the cast, they acted what material they were given.

7:11 Which makes no sense even at the time and showcases how clueless WB's executives were (and are). At the time of Man of Steel's release, The Avengers, a bright and cheery film, was the all-time biggest comic book movie ever.

Avengers happened after 4 years and 4 movies (with it being the 5th in 4years). BvS happened after 3 years and 1 movie... Of course it was doomed to fail. I still enjoy the films but it's sad watching them try and catch up. The smart choice would have been to keep TDK trilogy cannon in the DCEU and have MOS be Superman's first appearance, it would then explain why Batman is so much older than we're used to in BvS and also Wonder Woman should have came out in 2014/15 to tide the fans over, rather than shoehorning her into BvS. Have Green Lantern actively reference Themyscira and Bruce Wayne, so we would know what's to come. It may not have improved the film but more people might go to see it knowing it's linked to the already existing and upcoming movies.

Overall, well done. The only parts you got wrong were: 1) Giving short shrift to original comics material. Nobody can read "For The Man Who Has Everything" and say with a straight face that Superman is always bright and cheerful and would never try to kill anybody. It's better to say that Man of Steel focused on less popularized aspects of Superman, and this was a mistake in terms of audience retention. 2) Failing to remember that Man of Steel was a split-base movie. You mention it once, then keep on saying it sucked. Some people loved it, some people hated it, so it's hard to say that it universally sucked. The real mistake was that they then tried to scramble after attracting the people who hated it, which didn't work and only alienated the people who loved it.

@Rizzo91

5 жыл бұрын

I agree, I think they should've stuck to their guns with the tone. You can see them trying to be more and more like marvel with each movie after BvS and it really just doesn't work.

Great video! You’ve got a great tone and brilliant sense of timing. It’s pretty slick and professional. So this comment grew longer than I expected, but I needed to rant to please bare with me. Having grown up in the middle of comic/sci-fi/fantasy desert that was the 90s, I used to watch every film that came out of the 3 genres religiously no matter what anyone said about it (I understood then that critics and the media as a whole seemed to put their nose up at these films) and thanked Hollywood for each one. I actually enjoyed the unapologetic campiness of the earlier Batman films and even counted Val Kilmer was my fav Batman(Batman Forever was a personal favourite) George Clooney was a mistake and a half but Wesley Snipes as Blade was an inspired casting. I even remember loving Alec Baldwin’s The Shadow and Bruce Willis in the Fifth Element. One didn’t have a choice then to like or dislike a film if you like any of the 3 genres. You’re lucky to have 1 per year, and you take what you’re given. Nowadays we fans are lucky enough to have a luxury smorgasbord to choose from. Unfortunately for DC it launched amongst a plethora of high quality big budget comic/sci-fi/fantasy offerings and if this was the 90s I would have been the first in line on opening day for all of their recent films and gone away satisfied. But this ain’t the 90s, fans demand more than studios clobbering together a hodgepodge of ideas and slapping a bow around it for us to part with our hard earned cash. Marvel is slick, professional, respectful to the source material and they clearly have a passionate vision of a journey they want to take us on. DC wants you to admire the pretty picture and take your money. There’s only so many times that can work before we all wise up and refuse to stand there and be mugged. I was at the midnight screening of Watchmen and even though I found it pretty but cold and soulless, I wanted to give Snyder and DC another chance. So I rolled along for the opening weekend of Superman, which again left me cold. I actually came out happier with Bryan Singers Superman Returns which was a WTH moment. It can only get better right? When I hear Snyder was again directing yet another DC film I was sceptical but game to give it go. But BvS was the end of my long tether. Never have I come out of the Cinema angry as I did with this film. It was all style over substance with no real effort put in for coherent themes and meaningful story telling. Snyder should have stuck to making music videos. Having been spoiled for choice and quality in the last 18 years this is what they think we deserve? You’re right, the studio did forget to keep us entertained. In this day and age where the sheer scope of choice across all platforms is so vast we can never hope to see/hear everything even genre fans can and do switch off. In pursuit of an aesthetic style they think will make them money character development and good storytelling fell on the wayside. they forgot that we come to the cinema to feel, we want to laugh, cry, be angry, be sad, be anxious, be in awe and fall in love over and over. People came out of Force Awakens wanting a BB8, loving the diverse cast and remembering how unbearably cool Han Solo was. I came out of Inception realising Dreamshare tech is possibly closer to being reality than I was comfortable with and having fallen ridiculously for Tom Hardy’s roguish Eames. We all came out of watching Iron Man having followed Tony’s transformational journey wanting to give him a hug and/or wanting to be him or to be with him. DC needs to remember how to make films away from this idea of aesthetic and remember to make films where they respect the source material and love the characters. They need to invest in filmmakers whose ego and dedicated style don’t overshadow a good story. We want to love these ridiculous characters and feel invested in their struggles. That’s the only way it can work.

@AlfredLister

6 жыл бұрын

Lana Chen very well put. I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels this passionately about this topic and it’s good to see others offer their perspectives in such a dedicated way

@dignerds

5 жыл бұрын

Snyders vision was brilliant..but WB chopped up BVS ..so it's no wonder some didnt like it...the ultimate cut was so good that it garnered apologies from disappointed fans...in wonder when people will catch on to to the horror of studio interference..BVS was filled with themes and great layered storytelling..

@yeongvinsheng7639

5 жыл бұрын

@@dignerds the original 3 hour film being cut down to 2 1/2 hours, due to the studio apprehension about the commercial success and the potential R Rating. This ironically led to several significant scenes to be cut out of the film, partially contributing to its mixed to bad reception from critics.

@radrno7

5 жыл бұрын

John Wonder Sorry, but the movie could have Affleck and Cavill giving Oscar worthy performances, with all of the cut stuff, the movie would still fail at one scene where all the conflict between Batman and Superman is suddenly resolved because of their mother's names, and just so they could have them teaming up together against Doomsday and ending up with a pointless death. BvS ruined a lot of things for future DC movies.

@mushrifahmed8107

4 жыл бұрын

@@radrno7 not really. In the extended version why Batman stopped at the mention of the name, that idea is conveyed better. You understand that name Martha takes him back to the day where his mother is shot, and why he chose to become Batman in the first place, and how what he was doing was so far away from what he strived to be. I think this point would have been conveyed even better if they showed Batman not killing in the warehouse scene, but he sadly does.

Wow, not even half way through and I'm wondering how many times someone has yelled at you . . . graphic novel?

4:38 Wait, hold up! You think Superman II and Batman Returns are BAD?!

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

No they were good for your time I like them

@MaxIronsThird

5 жыл бұрын

I like them better than their first films.

@dimensionzone8048

5 жыл бұрын

@@MaxIronsThird Wow dude you opinion is honestly one Inever thought I'd see. I commend you no lie. Superman 2 I can see why, though both are good. Batman Returns however while good seeing how it beats 89 Batman for you is honestly shocking but no less welcoming.

@MaxIronsThird

5 жыл бұрын

@@dimensionzone8048 I'm pretty sure my opinion on these films aren't that uncommon, maybe it's just the people you hang out with, idk

Short Version: Studio interference from WB.

@tmanning6198

4 жыл бұрын

THAT is the ONLY problem people should point out , Its the studios interference with Snyder's vision

7:49 Even after watching Infinity War, my heart still leaps when I hear that theme :)

@MrALenCar321

5 жыл бұрын

Try hearing the dark Knight theme by Hans Zimmer or Fight night. Way better.

The problem I have with Man Of Steel is when Clark became an adult he's still dark and gritty instead of cool headed and sarcastic (boy scout) like in animated series. He defeats an squad with all equal to his strength, speed, abilities and way more combat experience. They introduced Zod and his crew too early.

As a major DC comics fan, When I walked out of the theater after watching Man of Steel openly saying, "I won't be seeing a sequel of this in the theater." I felt the franchise was in trouble.

So what do you think of Arrowverse? (Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, and Legends of Tomorrow)

The reason Man of Steel didn't go over well is: 1. Superman is not supposed to be extremely dark. 2.Snyder isn't Nolan. Nolan is a genius at making storewise dark movies, Snyder specializes in visual effects, and just makes it look darker.

I'm big on diagnosis, finding the root problem for something's failure. And I've been thinking about the DCEU for over a year in regards to this. So with that in mind, I've come to the conclusion that the DCEU had two main problems. 1. WB failed to understand the value of its DC comics property. 2. They entrusted something so valuable to creatives (mainly Zack Snyder) who did not have the vision or capability to execute a compelling cinematic universe. That's it. Everything else is a symptom. And even with these two, if either one of them was absent the DCEU might have worked. Both were a death sentence.

@pittland44

5 жыл бұрын

I think There's one piece missing to your diagnosis, WB/DC got caught off guard by the success of the MCU and got to the shared universe party late. As such they didn't have a good game plan going in and so many of their decisions were based on a reaction to what Marvel was doing, rather than what they needed to do. This explains the problems with tone, derivation from the source material, production issues, a lot of it traces back to that.

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

Apperently you know more and are more talanted than Snyder, Nolan, Terrio, Goyer, Oliva, the crew etc. They have vision AND the capability, stop the BULLSHIT.

@pittland44

5 жыл бұрын

@@The80sWolf_ You know that's a logical fallacy right? I don't have to be better at something to observe that someone did a bad job or was poor hire or made bad creative decisions. A good comparison is sports. I don't have to be a better three point shooter than Lebron James to be able to say when he's taken a bad shot. Also, stop yelling at everyone else and telling them what to do, we don't take orders from you, and we're free to talk about this topic and share our thoughts and opinions. Now if you want to politely disagree, as you've done with other points I've made elsewhere that's fine, but get the idea that you tell the rest of us what to do.

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

Stop trying to make your personal opinions some kind of critique against the movie then :)

@joelhenry5489

5 жыл бұрын

You do realise how irrational and emotional your comments are right?

"Man of Steel was too dark and serious" *Uplifting theme from the film playing in the background*

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

Just someone saying "Man of Steel was too dark and serious" cant be taken seriously, atleast not as a serious critic.

@charlesmonroe5274

5 жыл бұрын

In that movie there's a scene where Superman drowns in a pit of human skulls while the world Burns. That's almost comedicy dark.

@TheHorns1996

5 жыл бұрын

It was supposed to. It was a nightmare after all, or some form of psychological horror to try and persuade Supes to join his side.

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

" In that movie there's a scene where Superman drowns in a pit of human skulls while the world Burns. That's almost comedicy dark. " And why did he do that?

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

@@The80sWolf_ I can't find any dark comedy in that that seem very horrifying and scary way too dark

I can see you're a Lindsay Ellis fan too.

@kamilee4123

5 жыл бұрын

OminousArtist glad I'm not the only one who noticed all the similarities to her Phantom 2004 video. Nothing wrong with it, there are actually some interesting parallels to be made here.

@aerieleah533

5 жыл бұрын

@@kamilee4123 agreed. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed her formula here. Fortunately it's more the style of the video and less the content. It's similarly thought out though.

@JustKrin

5 жыл бұрын

I also noted a bit of Folding Ideas, and a slight touch of Max Landis Death of Superman video, which are great inspirations to be honest

@gojiraguy200

5 жыл бұрын

Literally the same opening joke as the Phantom critique, yeah

@withalittlehelpfrom3

5 жыл бұрын

Even the phrase “Where we start to run into problems” is one of her signatures. And the drinking between segments. I’m so glad to see she’s getting the influence she deserves!

Zack Snyder just doesn't understand Superman. And I feel sorry for his sheep.

Most what you say is true, but I think you are overlooking something: Man of Steel was never meant to be part of a Cinematic universe. Green Lantern was. There wasn't just Marvel collecting money left and right, there was also The Dark Knight. So Warner Bros tried to jump on both trains. The Green Lantern was a very transparent Ironman knock-off, complete with Amanda Waller having the role of Nick Fury. Man of Steel was basically Batman Begins for Superman. It was only when Green Lantern bombed spectacularly and The Avengers raked in all the money in the world that Warner Bros decided to shift Man of Steel to the DCEU.

@JadenAlexis

5 жыл бұрын

+Swanpride I had no idea Amanda Waller was in the Green Lantern movie! :l

@swanpride

5 жыл бұрын

If you watch it, it is basically a poorly made attempt to have their own Ironman which might be why the parts in space are the best, because they are the only ones which aren't just a bad copy of another movie.

@loverboytune

5 жыл бұрын

the whole reason they rebooted was to start a cinematic universe. Nolan was done with The dark knight so they were rushing to start something else too soon

@CCEkeke

5 жыл бұрын

Man of Steel was the restarted cornerstone of the DCEU after GL failed to launch. Though DC had a wait and see approach on moving forward depending on MoS's performance. They plan was to have a MoS2 and then build around SUperman. But when MoS under-performed, they freaked out and turned MoS2 into BvS.

@yeongvinsheng7639

5 жыл бұрын

@@CCEkeke and Avengers 2 was out then. Dcxu jumped to crossover before introducing characters properly.

Pretending to drink Jack? What's that all about then?

@carlbig1

5 жыл бұрын

I know right? There is no reason to it whether it is real or not. Getting drunk while making a video means you are an proud alcoholic while pretending to drink means you are... Insecure about yourself? That's my best guess.

@brianhurd8691

5 жыл бұрын

his drinking Jim not jack... but i understand your point of view.. seems odd to select american aged barrel whiskey, as a British guy, talking about an american super hero, while doing a youtube video.

@jasonpapai73

5 жыл бұрын

Hes a poser

@trash_chan

5 жыл бұрын

It's a gag from a Lindsey Ellis video where she talks about the Phantom of the Opera (2004).

@frankiepips

5 жыл бұрын

I thought there must be a gag it's too poorly acted!

Brilliant video. I love DC comics and i love Marvel as well, but in terms of movies Marvel have known exactly what they were doing from the start. I don't think you could have explained it any better

@CabezasDePescado

5 жыл бұрын

bullshit

@IzayaLee1725

5 жыл бұрын

@@CabezasDePescado so the mcu has no plan like the dceu

@dr.apostasy3347

5 жыл бұрын

@@IzayaLee1725 no marvel ran with the success of spiderman setting records at the time. MCU had planned to do a avengers movie but to do so they snuck in post credit scenes to see the reactions. They never expected it to catch fire for the avengers. Thor, hulk, and iron man were alright movies nothing to brag about. GOTG w was ok so was black panther. Ant man sucked, along with marvel, and captain America first avenger. You see those films gained a following due to post credits and what new villain the avengers will face. If you read comics 90% of MCU does not go by comics. They have great marketing tactics that DCU can try. I'm a marvel fan and DC I read the books and watch the movies when they hit bluerays. Y? Cause I feel they do the comic no justice. It attracts casuals and noobs who think watching 22 films makes them a superhero expert.

In an ironic twist, Kevin Feige actually had to work hard to get the Marvel higher ups to not make the exact same mistakes as the DC higher ups. First and foremost was to not immediately make The Avengers first and to lay plenty of groundwork before going there. DC did Man of Steel, Batman vs Superman, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman then Justice League. They tried to squeeze what took Marvel's three phase plan into five years and five movies (so far) all sub par and no universe building along the way. We owe Kevin Feige more than people think.

@mottom2657

11 ай бұрын

And Feige was also present in previous non-MCU Marvel films as a producer, so he had some solid experience. Also, Feige makes long-term plans that may come to fruition or not, but at least he makes plans.

if you go back and watch the original Superman movie you will notice there are some really dark moments in it. Lois Lane starts the movie by investigating a rapist, I think that's the perfect way to do a Superman movie today. Have a dark and bleak world where Superman is a shinning light making the world and people better

I wish WB would just have made a trilogy out of man of stell, like in the same style as the dark knight trilogy. because that would lead to a much better result than what the DCEU would end up. i was soo disapointed when they announced that the sequel to man of steel would be batman vs superman, and i was instantly like "ooh noooo. why are you doing this? cant you make some sequels first?"

@yeongvinsheng7639

5 жыл бұрын

They are solely playing catching up with zero consideration towards quality/coherence.

@viktordjemin7262

5 жыл бұрын

exactly, and its just jam-packed with stuff that totally comes out of nowhere and goes nowhere. like supermans death just two fuckin movies in. or batmans flashback-dream-stuff with superman being a dictator. or the entirety of suicide squad. nothing is build up, nothing is fleshed out. its just being thrown in your face. and while i know why they are doing it this way, i still dont understand why they are doing this. i mean they have to had noticed by now that this approach doesnt work. they just have to. they cannot be this stupid and this ignorant. and even if they are, someday they have to realize that this just doesnt work. and when they realize it, what are they gonna do then? especially since the mcu is gonna be in its 9th phase before WB notices that "hey maybe this doesnt work"

@dukedynamite5836

5 жыл бұрын

LOL those flashback ( or maybe premonition ) scenes confused the hell outta everybody... i was in the theater like wtf... i mean i understand bruce would be fearful of a powerful alien like superman but the parademons? nor did i know that was the flash smh... just terrible execution of the franchise

@HSAnt963

5 жыл бұрын

Just imagine the MoS trilogy kicking off the DCEU... MoS 2 - Jor-El’s corrupted A.I as Brainiac with Supes struggling like how he is in BvS and overcoming it by defeating Brainiac and saving Metropolis. MoS 3 w/ Doomsday and Supes dying and bringing all the other superheroes out of the shadows to jumpstart the JL movie. That’s how I would’ve wanted it to go.

@viktordjemin7262

5 жыл бұрын

yeah that would be so fuckin awesome. and while the MoS trilogy is running, WB could release a Wonder woman Trilogy and a Batman Trilogy, and all that culminating into Batman v Superman. WB makes it so unneccesarily difficult. like fuckin srly: you dont need to play catch up with the MCU. you got BATMAN, SUPERMAN and WONDER WOMAN. just make trilogys out of them and a couple movies of the flash and aquaman and some other stuff and then you can get some crossover action.

I was already considering subscribing, but then I saw the Heartless pop vinyl on your shelf and I was sold

the DCEU need a reboot

@lilbihxxx1234

5 жыл бұрын

They need to wheel and come again.

@kiracollie7115

5 жыл бұрын

And the MonsterVerse needs to die.

@zilla2006able

5 жыл бұрын

why do you want monsterverse to die???

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

JL was the start of the reboot. Are you not entertained?

Still a more enjoyable Superman movie than Superman Returns

@greentokyo

5 жыл бұрын

Lol. No it wasnt. Both were terrible. But at least superman returns had one memorable action scene

@Elementa2006

5 жыл бұрын

@@greentokyo yes it was because at least it wasn't boring as hell

@MaxIronsThird

5 жыл бұрын

Critics love that borefest

@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்

5 жыл бұрын

Man of Steel was a Superman movie? i swear it was a movie about a Sad hobo Man

And now people are fighting for BATFLECK

@pittland44

5 жыл бұрын

Sadly he was actually a bright spot in BVS, that shows you how screwed up everything got.

@dignerds

5 жыл бұрын

@@pittland44 marvels A list Hulk flopped

@pittland44

5 жыл бұрын

@@dignerds I think that DC should have regrouped and gone with Justice League Mortal. They had a plan, they should have stuck with it.

@threephase71

5 жыл бұрын

@@dignerds as some of us know marvel sold the rights to alot of a list superheroes to other studioes the hulk is no different, in other words universal studioes is to blame for that pile of hot mess. Anything dc you can blame wb only as well as dc

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

" Sadly he was actually a bright spot in BVS, that shows you how screwed up everything got." Why is it sadly? If people want more of him its great. "I think that DC should have regrouped and gone with Justice League Mortal. They had a plan, they should have stuck with it." Well they had a plan with "Snyder vision/Snyder cut" etc. They should stick with it :)

You know it's bad when the first episode of the Justice League cartoon had a more convincing reason to team up... They at least recognized that they are strong individually, but even they can't stop the big bad without working together! The movie didn't even do that, and basicly just went with Batman going: "This is big, i can't do it alone" as the only argument for them teaming up. Even though i think the first Avengers movie is good, but no masterpiece, they still made the basic plot work, with each individual hero being outmatched by loki and his army, and only when they start working together as a unit, do they begin to gain some ground on him...

I just subbed EXCLUSIVELY because your channel's name is "Posh Prick Reviews" and I am in it for the long haul.

The Aquaman Second Trailer disagrees....

I picture the DCEU as Batman handing on to a grappling hook half-dead that's tied to Mjolnir flying through a cactus field unscathed. Marvel knows that to make money you need to make good movies first; DC thinks it can make money first by making any movie.

@jorenpeters3375

5 жыл бұрын

WB*

@nassorm5634

5 жыл бұрын

Marvel, good movies?! Hardly!! Just a few good movies which now DC is climbing up towards with Wonder Woman and hopefully other good DCEU movies

@CaptainHillyan

5 жыл бұрын

Oh look everyone one, it's Fanboy. The sidekick to Hater Man. If the Marvel movies are 'bad', explain to me then how they've been setting box office records for some 10 years now?

@nassorm5634

5 жыл бұрын

@@CaptainHillyan Geez, how old are you?! "Oh LoOk EvEryOnE".. sorry, i didn't realize I was talking to a toddler.. "box office" records, true, over-rated, very much.. Seems like most superhero movie watchers are extremely young nowadays, hence MCEU's success, likewise, DCEU's failure.. Most DCEU's early movies couldn't be processed by your pea brains, so they had to lighten them up, smh..

@CaptainHillyan

5 жыл бұрын

Right... keep showing your obvious fan-boner there when Justice League is about as dumb a movie as there can be. That logic is so inversed that you're being obvious with your trolling. Big bad appears, team meets, don't get along, form team anyways without any sort of friction all of a sudden, don't work as a team and win anyways because Cyborg can do a thing all of a sudden. And what is there to 'get' about dull, monotone and brooding? The DC movies aren't Citizen Kane. Except for WW they're Bayformers.

Guess I gotta binge these

I sometimes overlook youtubers that I don't "know" but I'm glad I didn't your video is very good, congrats. You earn a new suscriber.

Ben Affleck was an awesome Bruce Wayne.

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

No

@praisemarvel3

5 жыл бұрын

We didn't see a lot of Bruce and sometimes it's just him in his cave, not in in public

Dc is still going strong. It's had some ups and downs, but it's still alive. We have Aquaman, Shazaam and Wonder Woman all coming out soon. Henry Cavil returning as Superman after his "departure". James Gunn set to direct the new suicide squad. This video and many others are just click bait. To declare the dceu "dead" is ignorant at best.

@jebb7054

5 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the Batman solo movie directed by Matt Reeves

The main reason is henry cavill's moustache

I actually loved Batflec ... I have said recently that WB was trying to recreate the Universe that Marvel got without the years of films to get there

It’s was suppose to be a self contained 5 part story with spins offs like suicide squad and Wonder Woman. It was people that ruined that plan by be hyperbolic in there response to BVS

@KL-fz1bh

5 жыл бұрын

Lantern 2814 thanks for explaining that because marvel fans boys and Warner brothers never understand this

@Xehanort10

5 жыл бұрын

No. It was Warner Bros trying to do a cinematic universe like Marvel that ruined it.

Stop blaming DC, this is all Warner Brothers Executives fault.

@erikjohnson3859

5 жыл бұрын

Semantics. And just so you know, Marvel was doing their same thing before Disney ever came into the picture.

@jzthereaper100

5 жыл бұрын

@@erikjohnson3859 yeah but then they made iron man, before disney. And then disney and ikey wanted a stuffed iron man 2, and you saw what happened. Dc need a kevin feigi.

@erikjohnson3859

5 жыл бұрын

A Red Fox Feige is Marvel, not Disney, thats my point. Google him, Feige was there before Iron Man, and this was planned long before Disney came along. I remember when I was like 13 (over 15 years ago), there was a mock poster image for BvS that they ended up using in 2016 with the S and Thick Bat Symbol in the middle, I think promoting some ride or something. These ideas have existed for years, and DC has no one to blame but themselves, just like Marvel is to blame for their success.

@jzthereaper100

5 жыл бұрын

@@erikjohnson3859 yeah and i mentioned ike. Ike wanted the inhumans to rival the xmen, ike didn't want a black panther or captain marvel. Ike was against civil was having 12 characters. The reason phase 3 has been the best phase so far is because disney gave kevin full control

@erikjohnson3859

5 жыл бұрын

Riiiight, the decisions for Marvel's movies came from Marvel (Feige, and those under him like the Russos), and the decisions for DC's movies came from DC (Hack Snyder, and those under him like Goyer.) Maybe WB should have interfered more with Snyder's "vision," lol. Again, semantics.

They should have made the origin stories for each of the main characters before making a team-up movie with all of them. Just like the MCU did. And they should kept them darker than the MCU, just like the DC comics usually were. That's what separated the two universes for me as a kid. DC was dark and a little more grownup, while Marvel was more humorous and appealed to a slightly younger demographic

@praisemarvel3

5 жыл бұрын

Marvel was always more darker in comics, in iron Man demon in a bottle, it tackled down problems with alcohol and addiction. While in DC, sure it took time for them to make there heros feel like we could relate to them, I mean I can relate to Batman for one reason and that reason is we all go through pain. But Spider-Man is more relatable because some of us don't fit in society and that makes us care less for everyone even the people we love the most like when Peter got his power, he only cares about himself and that careless mistake is what took the closest thing he had as father figure. So in real sense back then Marvel comics were more darker.

Nice shirt Ah. The Crow. My favorite comic book movie. Thank you Brandon Lee.

Ah yes, Guy-taking-a-drink-in-the-beginning-of-his-vid. Unironically. With a lack of self awareness this noteworthy why not dye your hair & say " what is up guys " at the start of the vid & immediately remind people to like, comment, subscribe, share & SMASH THAT BELL to STAY NOTIFIED for OTHER vids of yours where you'll see if you can somehow make me roll my eyes harder before closing your video

Warner Brother's needs to see this.

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

Definitely that way if they do decide redo Superman again they can do it right let's directors do the movie without your interference bring back Christopher Nolan and his partner who helped make the Dark Knight movie combine or take some inspiration from the first to Christopher Reeves movies or the entire trilogy and merge it with Batman Begins and most importantly keep Zack Snyder out of it

Not to mention the DCEU only relied on Frank Miller's run on 'Batman' as possibly its sole influence (I know Henry Cavill also based his portrayal of Superman on the graphic novel 'Superman: Red Son' but that's about it) that got stale very quickly, which is in contrast to Marvel who used a variety of comic books to influence the MCU output (as well as film styles such as the political thriller for 'Captain America: The Winter Soldier' and pulpp sci-fi for 'Guardians of the Galaxy').

Man of Steel was 2 changes away from being an amazing start to the DCEU. 1.Superman should not have had to killed Zodd. He would have been running on fumes fighting for that length of time. Phantom Zone 2. they decolorized the footage. If you have seen the color restored videos you will be amazed how beautiful it is. It looks like Superman.

Great video man you got a new subscriber

DC's villains have been uninspiring to say the least.

@thatghostieboi8312

4 жыл бұрын

Joker: **Laughs maliciously**

I love DC, but not the DCEU

I’d love to have a great DC cinematic universe. I love DC’s characters and stories so much, more than I’ve ever liked Marvel, and to see those stories in a universe to rival the comics would have been amazing. Too bad DC’s failed so hard at it.

Alright, this is kind of old, and a little weird just to say here I suppose, but seriously hear me out. Why do all these kinds of commentary channels seem to have people that either look or sound similar or at the very least, like literally always seem to be drinking something? I can't be the only one who thinks that right? Whatever, maybe I just missed out on something.

I know of one KZread movie critic. That would defends Man of Steel to his dying breath John Campea .

@pittland44

5 жыл бұрын

Really?

@YTChannel420

5 жыл бұрын

That guy is a dumb ass

@trevorphilips9065

5 жыл бұрын

YT Channel Or he has an opinion Dumbass

@redfox1366

5 жыл бұрын

gokusondbz Don’t call Campea a critic. It insults actual critics.

@gokusondbz

5 жыл бұрын

Just so all you stupid idiots know. John campea is a film critic he is recognized as one by Rotten Tomatoes.

Just for this video , I have subbed to you Posh Patrick . Nice video .

Allan Moore warned of the problem of translating comics to film at least a decade ago but he was crazy wasn't he? Looking at you DC!!

@anubusx

2 жыл бұрын

Did you like Watchmen?

I liked Man of Steel.

i loved Man of Steel, despite its flaws. and BvS didnt star Superman, he was just a side character in a Batman movie.

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily a Batman movie Man of Steel wasn't that good

"A boring bland bad movie with some ocasional cool scenes and ideas" is the best way to describe Man of Steel

lmao that thumbnail though XD

I actually kinda like Man of Steel...its not my favorite superhero movie,and even though I dont give a shit about comics,even I would make a better Superman than Snyder.That being said,I honestly dont think the movie is that bad,its average

Your style is articulate, and you have a beautiful well-modulated voice. That makes me think (and wish) that whiskey bottle is a prop.

@donb1659

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm not going to lie, I thought it was just going to be another bashing video but very well-thought-out. I'll subscribe

what is that sound effect called at 14:53?

I greatly disagree with ur opinions on MoS and BVS but I'm willing to listen and I must say u have passion and that has gotten me thru these vids. Good work mate.

Sorry but the world building and story aren't the issue. Executives messing with finished films are the problem. Batman V. Superman, Sucide Squad and Justice league are proof of that. Wonder Woman was almost entirely left alone. And we saw how people loved that.

@poker8100

5 жыл бұрын

George Cadenas Wonder Woman was the definition of starting a cinematic universe RIGHT. When I went in I hadn’t seen Batman v. Superman so i didn’t understand where the photo in the opening came from or Bruce Wayne’s connection to it. But I didn’t need to. It was a simple way of framing the story that was being told

@LateNightHalo

5 жыл бұрын

Wonder Woman was famously full of reshoots, studio-mandated rest screenings and focus group testing... what are you talking?

@PointsofData

5 жыл бұрын

Tbf people mostly loved it because it was good by dceu standards. It was, in the big picture, okay.

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

Its also funny how people defend WW, while hating Snyder/BVS/MOS/etc, but they completely ignore the fact that Snyder is a BIG PART of the creation of WW. He is the one that even casted Gal Gadot, and pretty much fought for having her, and he is part of pretty much saving her actor career. Patty Jenkins praises Snyder, and he also influenced both Jenkins directing and the plot itself. If Snyder would have directed the movie, it looking the same, no changes, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN ANOTHER DISCUSSION xD The story in WW is, well very streamlined and dumbed down compared to MOS, BVS, hell even SS at times(though I prefer WW over it), but its ok. They should have kept that formula, have Snyder etc. do his series, while letting others do theirs at the same time.

@cutedits

5 жыл бұрын

The 80's Wolf People hate Snyder because he DIRECTS horrible movies. Snyder did not direct Wonder Woman. End of story.

Lots of people support Man of steel because Nolan produce that movie

@j.t2348

5 жыл бұрын

That's a great movie

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

Rather because its a awesome epic movie with a deep plot.

@luizfelipevbf5567

5 жыл бұрын

@@The80sWolf_ i liked that movie a lot! Then BvS screwed superman and all that he went through in MoS

@notyouraveragebear9326

5 жыл бұрын

Kathiravan Ganesh No they support Man of Steel because it’s a GREAT movie

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

@@luizfelipevbf5567 what are you talkin about Maciel had no character development for men or if it did it was incomplete

Heath Ledger's ghost is haunting them

The only appropriate way to start a series of vids about the DCEU: Holding alcohol.

Man of steel wasn’t dark though

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

Yes it was are you high

@praisemarvel3

5 жыл бұрын

Did you forget how Superman killed a ship full of his own race and not mention he killed so civilians, it would have been nice to Superman try lure him out the city but no he just keep punching him every where in the city and he snaps zod's neck

@arjuna6224

3 жыл бұрын

@@praisemarvel3 bruh that city was already destroyed by the zero gravity thing

@matthewgabriele206

Жыл бұрын

@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 I must have been high, you are correct. Looking back, I’m disgusted that they let Zack Snyder just run the universe into the ground. Not that darker realistic takes on these characters are bad, but the writing was.

Kevin Feige is actually pronounced as Fai (as in the first part of "fight") - Gi (with a hard G, like girl).

I love that your drinking during these videos its actually funny and authentic

Well now I need to go rewatch The Crow, thank you for reminding me it's just the right month for that sort of dark atmosphere. Also thank you for the detailed breakdown on why the DCEU doesn't work well, it's insightful.

Here's how I look at it: 1. Man of Steel: actually pretty underrated in my opinion and one of the better Superman movies. I'd say it's leagues above Superman Returns at least. Visually, it's stunning to look at. Henry Cavil is also a great casting choice for Superman. If you haven't seen this one in a while, I recommend you give it another try. 2. Batman v Superman Dawn of Justice: I think the Ultimate Cut makes this quite a solid and entertaining movie. The fight scenes with Batman were amazing and even though I'm not a big fan of the film's version of Lex Luthor, I liked pretty much everything else. 3. Suicide Sqaud: Legitimately bad and a massive disappointment to me. I'll give you guys that one. 4. Wonder Woman: the best in the DCEU series. Not much else to say about it. Pretty much as good as your typical Marvel movie. 5. Justice League: I mean, Zack Snyder's daughter did commit suicide halfway through shooting and they brought in Joss Wheddon to wrap up filming, which made a really inconsistent tone. I blame Wheddon honestly but I don't think this movie is that bad. But it is pretty mediocre all things considered. There were a lot of people saying the X-Men films were dead because of X-3 and Origins Wolverine. But then First Class came out and fixed the series. The Aquaman and Shazam trailers all look pretty good and we have no reason to believe the Wonder Woman sequel won't be as good if not better than the first one. If you think this series has failed, you're wrong. This is not from some fanboy. I don't really give a shit either way. I just want entertaining movies.

@21minute

5 жыл бұрын

MCU fans kept on demanding X-Men rights being returned to Disney and that the franchise is getting worse but it's been 18 years and Fox still made very solid X-Men films this decade (First Class, DOFP, Deadpool, and Logan). Fast and Furious and Tranformers franchises still make movies even though they're universally considered bad movies. DCEU still has chances of getting things right. The whole "end the DCEU" thing is total bs.

@mayotango1317

4 жыл бұрын

Well, Captain Marvel is the typical MCU movie and sucks. Wonder Woman still wins.

Wtf. Okay I know it’s a fairly common thing to say that Batman and Robin “killed” the superhero genre for a time. But that movie came out in 1997. Blade cans out the next year and X-Men came out two years after that. So really that movie “killed” the SuperHero genre for all of...... 1-3 years depending on how u look at it

Love how there's alcohol the whole time. It's beautiful

DCFU (DC Film Universe): a big F U to audiences.

it starts with zac snyder not understanding the dc universe characters- it may have been a better fit at Universal's dark universe... but definitely not marvel... snyder cannot do character.

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

Bullshit. Snyder knows more about characters than you hobby crititcs/normies.

@thickneckman6751

5 жыл бұрын

@@The80sWolf_ oh no dceu fanboy alert

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

Such a dceu fanboy that I rated SS 5/10, JL 3/10 and have no interest in watching the coming dceu movies :)

@thickneckman6751

5 жыл бұрын

@@The80sWolf_ sorry didnt know

@hippomancy

5 жыл бұрын

then why does he produce such shit movies with such clear characters available to him?

I don’t care what anyone says, man of steel is a good movie. It has some flaws for sure, but is overall a good experience. The rest of the DCEU sucks though :(

@Fezaki

5 жыл бұрын

Kyle Braithwaite that's your opinion, imo the movie sucks

@KB-vd8wq

5 жыл бұрын

I think it had an interesting conflict between superman and Zod where both characters were doing what they believed was the right thing. Zod trying to revive Krypton and Superman trying to preserve the earth the way it was. On top of that the sound track and visuals were both very impressive. Care to give a reason why you think it sucked?

@radrno7

5 жыл бұрын

Kyle Braithwaite I agree that Zod was a really interesting and well developed character, but that's about it, he's the only character that is actually good. Superman is bland, Lois Lane is forced, Pa Kent is as bad as a character as the actor, Ma Kent is just ok and the movie just ends, like what was the point of it? Was Superman trying to discover himself for decades and suddenly becoming a superhero? Because if it was, it felt really forced since he was just some guy that came from another planet and had superpowers, his real motivations are never really explored, he's just told that he'll do something great where he could have done many things as we see in the movie itself

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

@@KB-vd8wq very humorous dark and gritty tone supporting characters weren't fully developed they didn't established that Superman had a problem with killing auras was thinking of doing it but had a hard time and zod being killed by a snapping his neck was just random I felt nothing not even that Superman screamed which I guess it wss a sign that hr regret it but it felt awkward the flashbacks didn't line up properly with a narrative paw Kent was the worst character in the movie the movie didn't know what it want to be an extension on Krypton was too long and should have been shorter the reason why I came to Earth was to get the Codex which was inside Superman what you need to transform the earth into Krypton which was way too advanced even for them and kind of stupid zod's motivations was compelling but the way you trying to do it was stupid Superman was way too emo and had no emotion when he was fighting Zod in the city he barely tried to minimize the damage he didn't try to fight zod somewhere else so people won't get hurt and most people killed and Clark contradicted himself whether or not to use his powers organs of the world

If they had set man of steel in a Grimm dark universe, where superman is literally the only light, saving people with a smile and a promise for a better future, in the face of an overwhelmingly dark present, and climaxed with Superman being made powerless by kryptonite, but retaining his bright view of the future, his smile, and his confidence that right will prevail over wrong, I think it would have been a true winner.

Fun and interesting analysis. Subbed amigo. 👍

It failed because WB started trying to be Marvel. They went from a gritty dark tone to a cheesy lame comedic tone.

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

"And yes, Justice League had that weird, Marvel-esque, cheesy humour as well. But that's probably due to Joss Wheadon being part of the project." Yea, that hack even pretty much took jokes from his own marvel movies and put in there... and all the weird shots at Gadots body... Is Whedon a creep or whats up?

@cesarsolis5449

5 жыл бұрын

WB try to satisfy EVERY doubt-request and ended up with a sensless crap

I hate how the DC Universe has muted colors.

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

I hate how the MCU has cartoon colors.

@yuungi9391

5 жыл бұрын

The 80's Lively is not a synonym to cartoony, sorry.

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

Lively as my vomit

@optillian4182

5 жыл бұрын

@@The80sWolf_ You vomit rainbows? What are you eating?

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

SJW and idpol friendly food

Sitting in the theater watching the end credits of Justice league. My friend turns to me with a smile on his face saying "Oh yeah" in approval. Profile pic is my face when processing what I just watched. And when I realized I bought the tickets.

is that how you say kevin feige? i hear everyone else say it like “fye-gee”

You can like the DCEU if you want, that's totally fine. But if you can't understand how it failed in comparison to how Marvel is doing you are a fool. If you can't see how Warner Brothers rushed out this entire project just so tehy can catch up with the MCU, then you are a fool.

I think the fact that most the of DC characters are much more cooler and well known when compared to Marvel (talking about ten years ago) and hence a lot of people go into the DCEU with great expectations but Snyder and Nolan don't really care about sticking to the source material and I instead want to tell their own stories. Hence if you hadn't picked up a comic book or even what a hero is - you would probably be more inclined to like the new DC movies but most people grew up watching shows like JLU and DC animated movies hence the DCEU sucks.

@The80sWolf_

5 жыл бұрын

"Snyder and Nolan don't really care about sticking to the source material and I instead want to tell their own stories" That is why they are influenced from the source material? Ok... "Hence if you hadn't picked up a comic book or even what a hero is - you would probably be more inclined to like the new DC movies but most people grew up watching shows like JLU and DC animated movies hence the DCEU sucks." That is just pure bullcrap. If you picked up comics, and knows your shit, you know Man of steel and Bvs is true to comic books and their characters. Unless you only watched/read the "normie" stuff.

Benn Aflleck's Batman, ironically, is one of the best things about the DCEU

My first Posh Prick Reviews video.

Excellent video, and I 100% agree with your review of MoS.

Ben Affleck didn't help. Still a terrible Batman.

Never mind the fact that they most often break the character's lore and mythology for the sake of "creative licenses". For example: When Superman is fighting Zod, Zod is temporarily weakened without his air mask because he is not "used" to Earth's atmosphere while Kal-El is and Superman strength comes from that fact rather than the sun's energy being absorbed by his body.... Excuse me, but WHAT?!?!?!?!? Or Lois knowing from the very get-go Clark's secret identity. Or Doomsday being created by Lex Luthor (terrible actor, age, personality and dialogue choices), Doomsday being a hybrid monster/clone from Superman, Batman using guns (like that sort of grenade launcher he uses against Superman and many many other examples. One or two changes here and there, meh. No problem. But ALL these combined, you got a problem because they basically detach from the main lore in the characters universes. I would say that (Deadshot being black, Jared Leto's HORRENDOUS Joker, etc). 95% of those changes turn out to be negative or counterproductive rather than positive and constructive. That is a BIG part of the problem of the DCCU.

3:24 song?